WOW.....James Clapper tells the obvious about Trump.....

Sorry, I'm not interested in not holding Russia accountable for attempting to disrupt our democratic processes.


How many people you willing to see die for that?

Die? You're a nut.


People die in a cold war, you warmongering fool.


IF that is all you managed to start.

Sorry, Russia doesn't get to play propaganda with our elections and get off the hook for it because you're scared of a cold war. We all know how Putin loves to kill his political enemies, so let's just get out of his way.

For that matter using your logic let's end all sanctions against North Korea.

But hey, if Trump ever gets around to enforcing these sanctions you'll probably push yourself to the front of the line defending him.



1. Use of propaganda is not a good enough reason for a Cold War, especially considering that we have been doing worse with to them, unprovoked.

2. That is the only reason you have come up with so far for your desire to see people die in a Cold War. That is not good enough. What is your real reason?

Yes, use of propaganda is a perfect reason for sanctions, plus stealing emails. What is wrong with you? It's also not just our country, Russia has interfered in other countries as well and seeks to destabilize our relations with our allies, those allies who helped us keep the cold war from turning hot.
 
Sounds like someone didn't get the memo that the Cold War is over.

No it's not. It was just two years ago that Russians hacked into the Pentagon, and the hack was moving so fast through the joint chiefs of staffs emails they had to shut it down for two weeks to replace hardware and software.
Russian hack almost brought the U.S. military to its knees

The Dept of Homeland Security sends out warnings on Russian hacks often. Especially to electric infracstructure that supplies power to U.S. military bases and other critical security services that protect this nation.
Russian hackers infiltrated many US critical infrastructure

In fact your ASS CLOWN is so stupid he was at the G-20 summitt and suggested to Vladimir Putin that we form a joint cyber security unit.

President Trump said Sunday that he and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the creation of a “Cyber Security” unit to prevent future Election Day meddling — a proposal quickly slammed by both sides of the political aisle as dangerous and premature. “Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things will be guarded and safe,” he said.
Three top Republicans, Sens. John McCain (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (SC) and Marco Rubio (Fla.), scoffed at the proposal.“It’s not the dumbest idea I have ever heard, but it’s pretty close,” Graham told NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
https://nypost.com/2017/07/09/gop-rip-on-trumps-dumb-idea-for-anti-hack-team-with-russia/
Trump appears to back off joint 'Cyber Security unit' with Russia after criticism

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Hillary Clinton was right--Trump is Putin's puppet.

You saw it throughout the campaign and voted for it anyway.


James Clapper is right when he said that Vladimir Putin has a valuable "intelligence" asset in Donald Trump.

None of us will forget Trump meeting in the Oval office with the Russians. Kicking out American media letting Russian media in. There were only 3 other Americans in that room. They were H.R. McMaster, National Security adviser, Dina Powell, Deputy National Security adviser, and Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State. So which one of these 3 leaked to the Washington Post that Trump gave the Russians classified information that hadn't gone through the process of being declassified?
Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador
Who was in Trump's meeting with the Russians? - CNNPolitics

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U.S. intelligence had warned Isreali intelligence not to give Trump sensitive information, citing he is compromised by the Russians.
The source of the intel Trump shared with Russia reportedly was warned months ago not to give it to him
US spies 'warned Israel not to share intelligence with Trump'

The greatest SECURITY THREAT to this nation is Donald Trump.


Off the topic but this picture reminds us --- how come Rump talks about his penis on national prime time TV, assures the audience there's "no problem" ---- and then every day wears a tie that literally runs down and points at it?
 
Before the Trump cultists begin their usual slamming of anyone who tells the TRUTH about their orange "hero"......bear in mind that Clapper was former Director of National Intelligence, was unanimously confirmed by the Senate for the position in 2010, was a Lt. General in the USAF, and Vietnam veteran.

Who lied to Congress that the NSA was spying on Americans. If anybody belongs in prison it’s James Clapper
 
How many people you willing to see die for that?

Die? You're a nut.


People die in a cold war, you warmongering fool.


IF that is all you managed to start.

Sorry, Russia doesn't get to play propaganda with our elections and get off the hook for it because you're scared of a cold war. We all know how Putin loves to kill his political enemies, so let's just get out of his way.

For that matter using your logic let's end all sanctions against North Korea.

But hey, if Trump ever gets around to enforcing these sanctions you'll probably push yourself to the front of the line defending him.



1. Use of propaganda is not a good enough reason for a Cold War, especially considering that we have been doing worse with to them, unprovoked.

2. That is the only reason you have come up with so far for your desire to see people die in a Cold War. That is not good enough. What is your real reason?

Yes, use of propaganda is a perfect reason for sanctions, plus stealing emails. What is wrong with you? It's also not just our country, Russia has interfered in other countries as well and seeks to destabilize our relations with our allies, those allies who helped us keep the cold war from turning hot.



1. We have no moral high ground here, considering our previous, unprovoked actions against them.

2. Sanctions is an escalation, on the path to Cold War. What good do you expect from them?

3. Russia is not a threat to our relationship with our allies. Our allies are a threat to that relationship, by being utter dicks. Fuck them.

4. Let the conflict die down. Give peace a chance.
 
One of our "allies," Israel, has done

911
JFK
the USS Liberty
Pan Am 103
the Marines in Lebanon 1982



We don't need "allies" like that.
 
Die? You're a nut.


People die in a cold war, you warmongering fool.


IF that is all you managed to start.

Sorry, Russia doesn't get to play propaganda with our elections and get off the hook for it because you're scared of a cold war. We all know how Putin loves to kill his political enemies, so let's just get out of his way.

For that matter using your logic let's end all sanctions against North Korea.

But hey, if Trump ever gets around to enforcing these sanctions you'll probably push yourself to the front of the line defending him.



1. Use of propaganda is not a good enough reason for a Cold War, especially considering that we have been doing worse with to them, unprovoked.

2. That is the only reason you have come up with so far for your desire to see people die in a Cold War. That is not good enough. What is your real reason?

Yes, use of propaganda is a perfect reason for sanctions, plus stealing emails. What is wrong with you? It's also not just our country, Russia has interfered in other countries as well and seeks to destabilize our relations with our allies, those allies who helped us keep the cold war from turning hot.



1. We have no moral high ground here, considering our previous, unprovoked actions against them.

2. Sanctions is an escalation, on the path to Cold War. What good do you expect from them?

3. Russia is not a threat to our relationship with our allies. Our allies are a threat to that relationship, by being utter dicks. Fuck them.

4. Let the conflict die down. Give peace a chance.

Give Russia a chance and fuck our allies?

And yes, we're not perfect but at least until recently we had the moral high ground over Russia, just ask any other democracy in the world.
 
People die in a cold war, you warmongering fool.


IF that is all you managed to start.

Sorry, Russia doesn't get to play propaganda with our elections and get off the hook for it because you're scared of a cold war. We all know how Putin loves to kill his political enemies, so let's just get out of his way.

For that matter using your logic let's end all sanctions against North Korea.

But hey, if Trump ever gets around to enforcing these sanctions you'll probably push yourself to the front of the line defending him.



1. Use of propaganda is not a good enough reason for a Cold War, especially considering that we have been doing worse with to them, unprovoked.

2. That is the only reason you have come up with so far for your desire to see people die in a Cold War. That is not good enough. What is your real reason?

Yes, use of propaganda is a perfect reason for sanctions, plus stealing emails. What is wrong with you? It's also not just our country, Russia has interfered in other countries as well and seeks to destabilize our relations with our allies, those allies who helped us keep the cold war from turning hot.



1. We have no moral high ground here, considering our previous, unprovoked actions against them.

2. Sanctions is an escalation, on the path to Cold War. What good do you expect from them?

3. Russia is not a threat to our relationship with our allies. Our allies are a threat to that relationship, by being utter dicks. Fuck them.

4. Let the conflict die down. Give peace a chance.

Give Russia a chance and fuck our allies?

And yes, we're not perfect but at least until recently we had the moral high ground over Russia, just ask any other democracy in the world.


1. Not when our actions after the end of the Cold War were so actively hostile to Russian interests. That was stupid of US.

2. Give Peace a Chance. What part of that is confusing to you?

3. Yes, fuck our allies. THey are being utter dicks. What part of that is confusing to you?
 
Sorry, Russia doesn't get to play propaganda with our elections and get off the hook for it because you're scared of a cold war. We all know how Putin loves to kill his political enemies, so let's just get out of his way.

For that matter using your logic let's end all sanctions against North Korea.

But hey, if Trump ever gets around to enforcing these sanctions you'll probably push yourself to the front of the line defending him.



1. Use of propaganda is not a good enough reason for a Cold War, especially considering that we have been doing worse with to them, unprovoked.

2. That is the only reason you have come up with so far for your desire to see people die in a Cold War. That is not good enough. What is your real reason?

Yes, use of propaganda is a perfect reason for sanctions, plus stealing emails. What is wrong with you? It's also not just our country, Russia has interfered in other countries as well and seeks to destabilize our relations with our allies, those allies who helped us keep the cold war from turning hot.



1. We have no moral high ground here, considering our previous, unprovoked actions against them.

2. Sanctions is an escalation, on the path to Cold War. What good do you expect from them?

3. Russia is not a threat to our relationship with our allies. Our allies are a threat to that relationship, by being utter dicks. Fuck them.

4. Let the conflict die down. Give peace a chance.

Give Russia a chance and fuck our allies?

And yes, we're not perfect but at least until recently we had the moral high ground over Russia, just ask any other democracy in the world.


1. Not when our actions after the end of the Cold War were so actively hostile to Russian interests. That was stupid of US.

You mean the Soviet Union that had and went on to kill millions of it's own citizens? And you want to put the United States on the same level?

2. Give Peace a Chance. What part of that is confusing to you?

3. Yes, fuck our allies. THey are being utter dicks. What part of that is confusing to you?

I'd say Russia has been more of a 'dick' than our allies to us.

Give peace a chance, I'm sure that's what Russia wants while trying to get back some of it's missing pieces from the past. Russia isn't doing us any favors, no reason to fold for them.
 
I'd say Russia has been more of a 'dick' than our allies to us.



Russia didn't do 911, Israel did.

Russia, Putin in particular, told the world that truth 2 days after, and our Israeli owned "US" media censored that.
 
1. Use of propaganda is not a good enough reason for a Cold War, especially considering that we have been doing worse with to them, unprovoked.

2. That is the only reason you have come up with so far for your desire to see people die in a Cold War. That is not good enough. What is your real reason?

Yes, use of propaganda is a perfect reason for sanctions, plus stealing emails. What is wrong with you? It's also not just our country, Russia has interfered in other countries as well and seeks to destabilize our relations with our allies, those allies who helped us keep the cold war from turning hot.



1. We have no moral high ground here, considering our previous, unprovoked actions against them.

2. Sanctions is an escalation, on the path to Cold War. What good do you expect from them?

3. Russia is not a threat to our relationship with our allies. Our allies are a threat to that relationship, by being utter dicks. Fuck them.

4. Let the conflict die down. Give peace a chance.

Give Russia a chance and fuck our allies?

And yes, we're not perfect but at least until recently we had the moral high ground over Russia, just ask any other democracy in the world.


1. Not when our actions after the end of the Cold War were so actively hostile to Russian interests. That was stupid of US.

You mean the Soviet Union that had and went on to kill millions of it's own citizens? And you want to put the United States on the same level?


No, I mean what I said. Russia, AFTER THE FALL OF THE SOVIET UNION. We pursued strong policies designed to harm their interests.


Why? The reasons for the Cold War was gone. We should have been looking for ways to avoid restarting any conflict.

Instead we were stupid.


Our actions then, imo, give Russia the moral high ground EVEN if they did take propaganda steps against US.


Our policy should be one of conciliation.




2. Give Peace a Chance. What part of that is confusing to you?

3. Yes, fuck our allies. THey are being utter dicks. What part of that is confusing to you?
I'd say Russia has been more of a 'dick' than our allies to us.

Give peace a chance, I'm sure that's what Russia wants while trying to get back some of it's missing pieces from the past. Russia isn't doing us any favors, no reason to fold for them.


My expectations from my supposed allies is different than from a former enemy.


I would not expect an ALLY to actively engage in trade policies to crush Boeing for one example.


Russia? As long as they are no threat to US or the world balance of power, I am happy for them to not do US favors.


I don't require favors. Just being left alone is good.
 
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Sorry, I'm not interested in not holding Russia accountable for attempting to disrupt our democratic processes.


How many people you willing to see die for that?

Die? You're a nut.


People die in a cold war, you warmongering fool.


IF that is all you managed to start.

Sorry, Russia doesn't get to play propaganda with our elections and get off the hook for it because you're scared of a cold war. We all know how Putin loves to kill his political enemies, so let's just get out of his way.

For that matter using your logic let's end all sanctions against North Korea.

But hey, if Trump ever gets around to enforcing these sanctions you'll probably push yourself to the front of the line defending him.



1. Use of propaganda is not a good enough reason for a Cold War, especially considering that we have been doing worse with to them, unprovoked.

2. That is the only reason you have come up with so far for your desire to see people die in a Cold War. That is not good enough. What is your real reason?
There is just one word for people who defend Trump and who defend Putin: Crazy.
 
I'd say Russia has been more of a 'dick' than our allies to us.



Russia didn't do 911, Israel did.

Russia, Putin in particular, told the world that truth 2 days after, and our Israeli owned "US" media censored that.

Which '911'? The one perpetrated on US Soil or the one in Benghazi perpetrated by Obama's buddies - Al Qaida, who he helped kill Qadaffi and take over their own country - Libya?!
 
How many people you willing to see die for that?

Die? You're a nut.


People die in a cold war, you warmongering fool.


IF that is all you managed to start.

Sorry, Russia doesn't get to play propaganda with our elections and get off the hook for it because you're scared of a cold war. We all know how Putin loves to kill his political enemies, so let's just get out of his way.

For that matter using your logic let's end all sanctions against North Korea.

But hey, if Trump ever gets around to enforcing these sanctions you'll probably push yourself to the front of the line defending him.



1. Use of propaganda is not a good enough reason for a Cold War, especially considering that we have been doing worse with to them, unprovoked.

2. That is the only reason you have come up with so far for your desire to see people die in a Cold War. That is not good enough. What is your real reason?
There is just one word for people who defend Trump and who defend Putin: Crazy.



And the lib makes his argument that only way a lib can.


By attacking the person they disagree with.


I made two valid points. YOu could have addressed either of them.


Instead you choose to be a dick.

FUCK OFF.
 
I'd say Russia has been more of a 'dick' than our allies to us.



Russia didn't do 911, Israel did.

Russia, Putin in particular, told the world that truth 2 days after, and our Israeli owned "US" media censored that.

Which '911'? The one perpetrated on US Soil or the one in Benghazi perpetrated by Obama's buddies - Al Qaida, who he helped kill Qadaffi and take over their own country - Libya?!

No he ea\
Yes, use of propaganda is a perfect reason for sanctions, plus stealing emails. What is wrong with you? It's also not just our country, Russia has interfered in other countries as well and seeks to destabilize our relations with our allies, those allies who helped us keep the cold war from turning hot.



1. We have no moral high ground here, considering our previous, unprovoked actions against them.

2. Sanctions is an escalation, on the path to Cold War. What good do you expect from them?

3. Russia is not a threat to our relationship with our allies. Our allies are a threat to that relationship, by being utter dicks. Fuck them.

4. Let the conflict die down. Give peace a chance.

Give Russia a chance and fuck our allies?

And yes, we're not perfect but at least until recently we had the moral high ground over Russia, just ask any other democracy in the world.


1. Not when our actions after the end of the Cold War were so actively hostile to Russian interests. That was stupid of US.

You mean the Soviet Union that had and went on to kill millions of it's own citizens? And you want to put the United States on the same level?


No, I mean what I said. Russia, AFTER THE FALL OF THE SOVIET UNION. We pursued strong policies designed to harm their interests.


Why? The reasons for the Cold War was gone. We should have been looking for ways to avoid restarting any conflict.

Instead we were stupid.


Our actions then, imo, give Russia the moral high ground EVEN if they did take propaganda steps against US.


Our policy should be one of conciliation.




2. Give Peace a Chance. What part of that is confusing to you?

3. Yes, fuck our allies. THey are being utter dicks. What part of that is confusing to you?

I'd say Russia has been more of a 'dick' than our allies to us.

Give peace a chance, I'm sure that's what Russia wants while trying to get back some of it's missing pieces from the past. Russia isn't doing us any favors, no reason to fold for them.


My expectations from my supposed allies is different than from a former enemy.


I would not expect an ALLY to actively engage in trade policies to crush Boeing for one example.


Russia? As long as they are no threat to US or the world balance of power, I am happy for them to not do US favors.


I don't require favors. Just being left alone is good.[/QUOTE]
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Fix your post, everything above is all screwed up.

BTW, Putin has been more harmful to Russia by him and other oligarchs ripping off the Russian people and limiting their civil liberties and free press. He's a tyrant and the only peace he wants is if it's on his own terms.
 
Who lied to Congress that the NSA was spying on Americans. If anybody belongs in prison it’s James Clapper


Push for THAT, Taz.....Its your party that is in charge of EVERYTHING in D.C.

Go on, write letters, demonstrate, yell, cuss and do what is needed to "lock her up" and now, "lock him up".......LOL
 
Which '911'?



The one that claimed a "757" going 500 mph with its nose 8 feet off the ground left THIS HOLE in the Pentagon....






Answer me this, if that is where the NOSE of the 757 hit, where were the ENGINES???
 

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