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You really should seek attention for your willingness to defy reality.Test flights can not fail? HahahaTwo points.Elon Musk isn't going to piss away good money for a moon stopover base. Let NASA piss away that money. Elon is going straight to Mars.How much payload could they carry? How many flights to the moon to build a base camp for further space exploration?
I don't claim to be a rocket scientist, but what I saw yesterday was impressive and how I see the future. You're not stupid WW, but you seem to see the world by your ideology, thus a mind close to new things, new ideas and change.
1. The moon has an abundance of valuable resources and most important of them are the required ingredients for ROCKET FUEL.
2. This rocket is off course and going to miss mars lol
Fail
Fail? What part of "test flight" confuses you? Musk himself estimated the chances of just successfully launching to be 50/50. I'm pretty sure everyone involved was thrilled that it went so well.
Yes. A test is a failure if it fails to provide any useful feedback. Pretty sure that wasn't the case here.
A successful launch but a mission failure
Well, since there was no 'mission', not sure what you mean. It was a test. Problems were expected - that's why he launched his fucking car instead of a real payload or passengers. But you go ahead and party on the "failure". If it's fun for ya.
wow that was a intelligent response....thanks black ....i dont know if that will ever happen Wry....i dont know why the all the countries with a space program dont team up and get there together instead of everyone competing with each other......
Because people aren't ants.
The day of the launch they said it wasn't to go into actual mars orbit, but to swing by. Its final destination was always the asteroid belt.You really should seek attention for your willingness to defy reality.
The mission AS STATED BY SPACE X was to get the car into mars orbit. The car is now headed for the asteroid belt. Mars is not in the asteroid belt. THAT is a major fuck up.
Unimportant. Do you want to sue somebody or do you just want to whine about something meaningless?The day of the launch they said it wasn't to go into actual mars orbit, but to swing by. Its final destination was always the asteroid belt.You really should seek attention for your willingness to defy reality.
The mission AS STATED BY SPACE X was to get the car into mars orbit. The car is now headed for the asteroid belt. Mars is not in the asteroid belt. THAT is a major fuck up.
This was the path the day of the launch
wow that was a intelligent response....thanks black ....i dont know if that will ever happen Wry....i dont know why the all the countries with a space program dont team up and get there together instead of everyone competing with each other......
Because people aren't ants.
SpaceX has only been around since 2002. In a mere decade he's designed this thing, it's quite an accomplishment, and a shit ton more innovative than the US government (or any other nations space program) has really been. Private industry will bring space travel related shit into the realm of public consumption, something the government barely only considered via palm greasing by big business. SpaceX will provide a new "phase" of services to businesses and individuals, tour companies and cell phone companies, cable TV providers, music providers, etc.
Personally I foresee some astounding price drops on many, many things coming quite soon. SpaceX will no doubt soon start marketing orbital launches in order to continue his research and development - and if his ultimate goal is to colonize Mars, he'll need funds for that as well. I believe they've already started selling tourism launches for $10m a ticket?
we all have different ideas?....then how come most of the countries that have a space program are cooperating with the space station?..... if they can do it there they can do it to get to the moon....shall i spell this out?.....maybe you aint as smart as you think you are....wow that was a intelligent response....thanks black ....i dont know if that will ever happen Wry....i dont know why the all the countries with a space program dont team up and get there together instead of everyone competing with each other......
Because people aren't ants.
You're welcome. But it kinda sounds like you didn't get it. Shall I spell it out?
The reason we don't all join hands and sing along is that we all have different ideas about what we should be singing. Competing sorts out the good ideas from the bad.
we all have different ideas?....then how come most of the countries that have a space program are cooperating with the space station?..... if they can do it there they can do it to get to the moon....shall i spell this out?.....maybe you aint as smart as you think you are....wow that was a intelligent response....thanks black ....i dont know if that will ever happen Wry....i dont know why the all the countries with a space program dont team up and get there together instead of everyone competing with each other......
Because people aren't ants.
You're welcome. But it kinda sounds like you didn't get it. Shall I spell it out?
The reason we don't all join hands and sing along is that we all have different ideas about what we should be singing. Competing sorts out the good ideas from the bad.
so it just may work going to the moon.....we all have different ideas?....then how come most of the countries that have a space program are cooperating with the space station?..... if they can do it there they can do it to get to the moon....shall i spell this out?.....maybe you aint as smart as you think you are....wow that was a intelligent response....thanks black ....i dont know if that will ever happen Wry....i dont know why the all the countries with a space program dont team up and get there together instead of everyone competing with each other......
Because people aren't ants.
You're welcome. But it kinda sounds like you didn't get it. Shall I spell it out?
The reason we don't all join hands and sing along is that we all have different ideas about what we should be singing. Competing sorts out the good ideas from the bad.
The space station is an amazing place to conduct experiments of value to all nations. Those who participate get a good return for their money.
It also lends an air of cooperation that doesn't exist here on earth.
SpaceX has only been around since 2002. In a mere decade he's designed this thing, it's quite an accomplishment, and a shit ton more innovative than the US government (or any other nations space program) has really been. Private industry will bring space travel related shit into the realm of public consumption, something the government barely only considered via palm greasing by big business. SpaceX will provide a new "phase" of services to businesses and individuals, tour companies and cell phone companies, cable TV providers, music providers, etc.
Personally I foresee some astounding price drops on many, many things coming quite soon. SpaceX will no doubt soon start marketing orbital launches in order to continue his research and development - and if his ultimate goal is to colonize Mars, he'll need funds for that as well. I believe they've already started selling tourism launches for $10m a ticket?
Unremarkable.
Why?
America in less than that 16 years, 50 years ago, went from ridiculously underdeveloped rocketry with barely any computerization and no robotics - had men walking around on the moon... six times, in less time.
This firm, having the rocketry technology already known, computerization and robotics...space trajectory already understood...with hired experts already possessing knowledge... and we got a launch from a rocket not much more advanced than the Saturn rockets...and oh...they can be reused.
Here is my impressed look....
By now we should have habitats on the moon mining and reaping $trillions with clean energy to boot.
SpaceX has only been around since 2002. In a mere decade he's designed this thing, it's quite an accomplishment, and a shit ton more innovative than the US government (or any other nations space program) has really been. Private industry will bring space travel related shit into the realm of public consumption, something the government barely only considered via palm greasing by big business. SpaceX will provide a new "phase" of services to businesses and individuals, tour companies and cell phone companies, cable TV providers, music providers, etc.
Personally I foresee some astounding price drops on many, many things coming quite soon. SpaceX will no doubt soon start marketing orbital launches in order to continue his research and development - and if his ultimate goal is to colonize Mars, he'll need funds for that as well. I believe they've already started selling tourism launches for $10m a ticket?
Unremarkable.
Why?
America in less than that 16 years, 50 years ago, went from ridiculously underdeveloped rocketry with barely any computerization and no robotics - had men walking around on the moon... six times, in less time.
This firm, having the rocketry technology already known, computerization and robotics...space trajectory already understood...with hired experts already possessing knowledge... and we got a launch from a rocket not much more advanced than the Saturn rockets...and oh...they can be reused.
Here is my impressed look....
By now we should have habitats on the moon mining and reaping $trillions with clean energy to boot.
Hey that shits expensive. It had to wait until there was a billionaire willing to buy into it. As much as you like to think we were "moving forward" or something when the gov was dicking around with this stuff, we were not, the US government did not really progress past "landing on the moon" [as far as rockets, payload, etc.] because none of the other presidents have really provided NASA with both the direction "go do X" AND the funding necessary to make it actually happen. NASA was basically treading water, not making progress - it's part of why a lot of American's were fine with cutting it's budget so deeply.
SpaceX has only been around since 2002. In a mere decade he's designed this thing, it's quite an accomplishment, and a shit ton more innovative than the US government (or any other nations space program) has really been. Private industry will bring space travel related shit into the realm of public consumption, something the government barely only considered via palm greasing by big business. SpaceX will provide a new "phase" of services to businesses and individuals, tour companies and cell phone companies, cable TV providers, music providers, etc.
Personally I foresee some astounding price drops on many, many things coming quite soon. SpaceX will no doubt soon start marketing orbital launches in order to continue his research and development - and if his ultimate goal is to colonize Mars, he'll need funds for that as well. I believe they've already started selling tourism launches for $10m a ticket?
Unremarkable.
Why?
America in less than that 16 years, 50 years ago, went from ridiculously underdeveloped rocketry with barely any computerization and no robotics - had men walking around on the moon... six times, in less time.
This firm, having the rocketry technology already known, computerization and robotics...space trajectory already understood...with hired experts already possessing knowledge... and we got a launch from a rocket not much more advanced than the Saturn rockets...and oh...they can be reused.
Here is my impressed look....
By now we should have habitats on the moon mining and reaping $trillions with clean energy to boot.
Hey that shits expensive. It had to wait until there was a billionaire willing to buy into it. As much as you like to think we were "moving forward" or something when the gov was dicking around with this stuff, we were not, the US government did not really progress past "landing on the moon" [as far as rockets, payload, etc.] because none of the other presidents have really provided NASA with both the direction "go do X" AND the funding necessary to make it actually happen. NASA was basically treading water, not making progress - it's part of why a lot of American's were fine with cutting it's budget so deeply.
Oh there is no doubt NASA lacked vision, but at the same time corporatism came along. And with that came the rule of the stockholder. The stockholder era. Which of course we are still in. And with that comes the demand to make money now. Long term, decade-long investment both in time and money fell of the plate. Investors have no interest in waiting 20 years before they get a payoff. And that friend, is why it takes a government. I am a conservative, but I acknowledge that there are some things that only a government can do, a good government that is.
Which we certainly don't have now.
NASA has sent a lot of unmanned probes into space, put up the Hubble telescope and now it is enabling private corporations to enter space through sharing technical know-how.Hey that shits expensive. It had to wait until there was a billionaire willing to buy into it. As much as you like to think we were "moving forward" or something when the gov was dicking around with this stuff, we were not, the US government did not really progress past "landing on the moon" [as far as rockets, payload, etc.] because none of the other presidents have really provided NASA with both the direction "go do X" AND the funding necessary to make it actually happen. NASA was basically treading water, not making progress - it's part of why a lot of American's were fine with cutting it's budget so deeply.
Because he has an ego the same size as his walletSpaceX has only been around since 2002. In a mere decade he's designed this thing, it's quite an accomplishment, and a shit ton more innovative than the US government (or any other nations space program) has really been. Private industry will bring space travel related shit into the realm of public consumption, something the government barely only considered via palm greasing by big business. SpaceX will provide a new "phase" of services to businesses and individuals, tour companies and cell phone companies, cable TV providers, music providers, etc.
Personally I foresee some astounding price drops on many, many things coming quite soon. SpaceX will no doubt soon start marketing orbital launches in order to continue his research and development - and if his ultimate goal is to colonize Mars, he'll need funds for that as well. I believe they've already started selling tourism launches for $10m a ticket?
Unremarkable.
Why?
America in less than that 16 years, 50 years ago, went from ridiculously underdeveloped rocketry with barely any computerization and no robotics - had men walking around on the moon... six times, in less time.
This firm, having the rocketry technology already known, computerization and robotics...space trajectory already understood...with hired experts already possessing knowledge... and we got a launch from a rocket not much more advanced than the Saturn rockets...and oh...they can be reused.
Here is my impressed look....
By now we should have habitats on the moon mining and reaping $trillions with clean energy to boot.
Hey that shits expensive. It had to wait until there was a billionaire willing to buy into it. As much as you like to think we were "moving forward" or something when the gov was dicking around with this stuff, we were not, the US government did not really progress past "landing on the moon" [as far as rockets, payload, etc.] because none of the other presidents have really provided NASA with both the direction "go do X" AND the funding necessary to make it actually happen. NASA was basically treading water, not making progress - it's part of why a lot of American's were fine with cutting it's budget so deeply.
Oh there is no doubt NASA lacked vision, but at the same time corporatism came along. And with that came the rule of the stockholder. The stockholder era. Which of course we are still in. And with that comes the demand to make money now. Long term, decade-long investment both in time and money fell of the plate. Investors have no interest in waiting 20 years before they get a payoff. And that friend, is why it takes a government. I am a conservative, but I acknowledge that there are some things that only a government can do, a good government that is.
Which we certainly don't have now.
I don't think the facts bear out your assumption. A single question actually defies it:
Why did Elon Musk start Space X?
we all have different ideas?....then how come most of the countries that have a space program are cooperating with the space station?..... if they can do it there they can do it to get to the moon....shall i spell this out?.....maybe you aint as smart as you think you are....wow that was a intelligent response....thanks black ....i dont know if that will ever happen Wry....i dont know why the all the countries with a space program dont team up and get there together instead of everyone competing with each other......
Because people aren't ants.
You're welcome. But it kinda sounds like you didn't get it. Shall I spell it out?
The reason we don't all join hands and sing along is that we all have different ideas about what we should be singing. Competing sorts out the good ideas from the bad.
The space station is an amazing place to conduct experiments of value to all nations. Those who participate get a good return for their money.
It also lends an air of cooperation that doesn't exist here on earth.
