Wyoming's proposed anti-LGBT law

[martybegan]

From a friend in Wyoming:

The Wyoming State Legislature is considering a bill that, if passed, would become the most oppressive and wide-ranging anti-LGBT law in the nation. It would allow social workers to deny aid, teachers to not teach, health care workers to deny service not only to individuals that identify as LGBT, but their children as well. And that is just part of the bill... this bill tells our LGBT brothers and sisters that they are not worthy to receive services a straight cisgendered individual can receive.

HB-135 is scheduled to be voted upon by the Wyoming House Judiciary Committee this week, its first step toward becoming law. Please call and/or email members of this committee (contact info pasted below) and tell them to VOTE NO ON HB-135. No hate in the equality state!

Remember: Be firm but polite; introduce yourself and say where you're from; make your message personal.

Wyoming House Judiciary Committee -
Dan Kirkbride (Chugwater)
Cell - (307) 331-2265
[email protected]

Mark Baker (Rock Springs)
Cell - (307) 371-5113
[email protected]

Bo Biteman (Ranchester)
Cell - (307) 763-7613
[email protected]

Mark Jennings (Sheridan)
Cell - (307) 461-0697
[email protected]

Jared Olsen (Cheyenne)
Cell - (307) 509-0242
[email protected]

Charles Pelkey (Laramie)
Cell - (307) 920-0542
[email protected]

Bill Pownall (Gillette)
Home - (307) 682-4148
[email protected]

Tim Salazar (Dubois)
Cell - (307) 220-1213
[email protected]

Nathan Winters (Thermopolis)
Home - (307) 864-3690
[email protected]

This is what you get when you use courts to force gay marriage on places that don't want it, and force non-essential businesses to either "bake or die".

When your side becomes unreasonable, don't be surprised when the other side does the exact same thing.

Civil rights not your cup of tea, yes?

Civil rights are about government going after people, not some baker kindly asking you to use another one because they don't approve of your wedding ceremony.

This actually is about Civil Rights, but religious civil rights, not the right to not be butt hurt.

 

[AugmentedDog]

Good for Wyoming!! ....... ....

Fuck Wyoming and the bigots that support this

 

[pinqy]

that discrimination was never as systemic as racial discrimination in the South, and was not against as large of a population. Gays also had the advantage of "hiding in plain sight" that blacks never had, unless they could "pass".

And when was it a felony to be black? Because until the 1960's sodomy was a felony in every state. And you know very well that even in the states where sodomy was illegal for heterosexuals as well, that it was never enforced to near the degree of their use as anti-gay laws.

If some baker didn't want to serve blacks, and there were plenty of bakers around to cover it, why not just let the market handle it?

I'm not aware of that ever working, can you give an example

But where were you and other Christians when Muslim taxi drivers were fined for refusing to transport passengers with alcohol or dogs? Where will you stand when a Muslim refuses service to a woman who isn't properly covered?

 

[bodecea]

From a friend in Wyoming:

The Wyoming State Legislature is considering a bill that, if passed, would become the most oppressive and wide-ranging anti-LGBT law in the nation. It would allow social workers to deny aid, teachers to not teach, health care workers to deny service not only to individuals that identify as LGBT, but their children as well. And that is just part of the bill... this bill tells our LGBT brothers and sisters that they are not worthy to receive services a straight cisgendered individual can receive.

HB-135 is scheduled to be voted upon by the Wyoming House Judiciary Committee this week, its first step toward becoming law. Please call and/or email members of this committee (contact info pasted below) and tell them to VOTE NO ON HB-135. No hate in the equality state!

Remember: Be firm but polite; introduce yourself and say where you're from; make your message personal.

Wyoming House Judiciary Committee -
Dan Kirkbride (Chugwater)
Cell - (307) 331-2265
[email protected]

Mark Baker (Rock Springs)
Cell - (307) 371-5113
[email protected]

Bo Biteman (Ranchester)
Cell - (307) 763-7613
[email protected]

Mark Jennings (Sheridan)
Cell - (307) 461-0697
[email protected]

Jared Olsen (Cheyenne)
Cell - (307) 509-0242
[email protected]

Charles Pelkey (Laramie)
Cell - (307) 920-0542
[email protected]

Bill Pownall (Gillette)
Home - (307) 682-4148
[email protected]

Tim Salazar (Dubois)
Cell - (307) 220-1213
[email protected]

Nathan Winters (Thermopolis)
Home - (307) 864-3690
[email protected]

This is what you get when you use courts to force gay marriage on places that don't want it, and force non-essential businesses to either "bake or die".

When your side becomes unreasonable, don't be surprised when the other side does the exact same thing.

Civil rights not your cup of tea, yes?

Equal civil rights.

 

[TNHarley]

Desegregation was needed. There should be NO discrimination from the institution. But people can be assholes if they want. If a baker don't want to make a cake, then fuck the cake. They can go next door. But if you think support of individuality and private property makes one a NAZI, then you sir, are a fucking idiot.

You're making the case for allowing Jim Crow back. goddam that's ignorant.

Im in no way doing that. I just said there should be no discrimination from the institution, Mr. illiterate.

Jim Crow was ALLOWED in the South, not necessarily mandated. You want to ALLOW a business to refuse service to people of color. That is your support for allowing Jim Crow to come back.

Jim Crow was institutional discrimination. It was ENFORCED by the govt. That's some bullshit.
A business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Its THEIR PROPERTY. Involuntary servitude is against the constitution.
I don't want jim crow back, that's a stupid thing to say. And quit ignorant. I just PA laws, state and federal, to go away. In the least, Federal.

Here is where I disagree with TN, when it comes to actual PA's, restaurants, Movie theaters, point of sale grocery stores, where the public is explicitly invited onto your property, localities should be able to enforce "commerce for all". Where I disagree with progressives is extending that to every form of business out there.

where the public is explicitly invited onto your property
Wouldn't that include just about every business?

 

[AugmentedDog]

That's it exactly, Marty, local elities can't block civil rights.

Period.

So, if the WY lege passes it and the Gov signs it, the legislation then goes to federal court and will be overturned.

Waste of the taxpayers' money.

Depends on the Court.

Still the fault of the LGBT progressive extremists who feel the need to force their views on others.

Yeah...
Of course lgbtq people don't deserve the rights of constitutional citizenship, he said tongue in cheek.
Bigot!

 

[bodecea]

This has nothing at all to do with religion, that is only used as a smokescreen. Its all about hate and discrimination

Yep, discriminating against people who don't want to associate with others based on their behavior.

your a neo nazi all you want to do is discriminate agianst people based on their behavior... and their race, their religon, their general net worth

Behavior has nothing to do with race, religion or net worth so stop trying to attribute word or opinions to me that I haven't expressed.

Religion is a behavior. Gun ownership and use is a behavior.

Liberalism is a mental disorder...

You keep saying that.....as if you were obsessed with that phrase.

 

[Sunni Man]

Wyoming is putting fudge packers and the LGBT perverts in their place. ..... ......

 

[OKTexas]

Yep, discriminating against people who don't want to associate with others based on their behavior.

your a neo nazi all you want to do is discriminate agianst people based on their behavior... and their race, their religon, their general net worth

Behavior has nothing to do with race, religion or net worth so stop trying to attribute word or opinions to me that I haven't expressed.

Religion is a behavior. Gun ownership and use is a behavior.

Liberalism is a mental disorder...

You keep saying that.....as if you were obsessed with that phrase.

Nah, he just likes being captain obvious.

 

[AugmentedDog]

From a friend in Wyoming:

The Wyoming State Legislature is considering a bill that, if passed, would become the most oppressive and wide-ranging anti-LGBT law in the nation. It would allow social workers to deny aid, teachers to not teach, health care workers to deny service not only to individuals that identify as LGBT, but their children as well. And that is just part of the bill... this bill tells our LGBT brothers and sisters that they are not worthy to receive services a straight cisgendered individual can receive.

HB-135 is scheduled to be voted upon by the Wyoming House Judiciary Committee this week, its first step toward becoming law. Please call and/or email members of this committee (contact info pasted below) and tell them to VOTE NO ON HB-135. No hate in the equality state!

Remember: Be firm but polite; introduce yourself and say where you're from; make your message personal.

Wyoming House Judiciary Committee -
Dan Kirkbride (Chugwater)
Cell - (307) 331-2265
[email protected]

Mark Baker (Rock Springs)
Cell - (307) 371-5113
[email protected]

Bo Biteman (Ranchester)
Cell - (307) 763-7613
[email protected]

Mark Jennings (Sheridan)
Cell - (307) 461-0697
[email protected]

Jared Olsen (Cheyenne)
Cell - (307) 509-0242
[email protected]

Charles Pelkey (Laramie)
Cell - (307) 920-0542
[email protected]

Bill Pownall (Gillette)
Home - (307) 682-4148
[email protected]

Tim Salazar (Dubois)
Cell - (307) 220-1213
[email protected]

Nathan Winters (Thermopolis)
Home - (307) 864-3690
[email protected]

This is what you get when you use courts to force gay marriage on places that don't want it, and force non-essential businesses to either "bake or die".

When your side becomes unreasonable, don't be surprised when the other side does the exact same thing.

Since when is the LBGT community not entitled to the same rights and protections as any other American

They may be entitled to it, but their rights do not automatically outweigh the rights of others, as in a right of a baker to not participate in a ceremony it finds sinful.

BS

 

[martybegan]

that discrimination was never as systemic as racial discrimination in the South, and was not against as large of a population. Gays also had the advantage of "hiding in plain sight" that blacks never had, unless they could "pass".

And when was it a felony to be black? Because until the 1960's sodomy was a felony in every state. And you know very well that even in the states where sodomy was illegal for heterosexuals as well, that it was never enforced to near the degree of their use as anti-gay laws.

If some baker didn't want to serve blacks, and there were plenty of bakers around to cover it, why not just let the market handle it?

I'm not aware of that ever working, can you give an example

But where were you and other Christians when Muslim taxi drivers were fined for refusing to transport passengers with alcohol or dogs? Where will you stand when a Muslim refuses service to a woman who isn't properly covered?

Yes, and those laws were wrong and should have been repealed. Government should not be in someone's bedroom, just as it shouldn't be in someone's bakery unless the discrimination is systemic and has a definitive economic impact.

 

[bodecea]

Since when is the LBGT community not entitled to the same rights and protections as any other American

Men licking hairy balls is a right?

. . . to not be denied an adult's rights in private by the likes of you. And your weirdo beliefs cannot be denied, either, see?

Can we teach this sexual perversion in our schools so that our 8 year old sons can learn the art of sperm-gurgling without making a mess?

Are 8 year olds taught about old rich men and their trophy wives and grabbing women by their pussy and golden showers?

I'm sure they were taught all about Bill Clinton in history class. Although hillary certainly ain't no trophy.

You're sure? Then you will have no problem showing us an example of an Elementary school curriculum that does so. They are usually available on line for the public to have access to.

 

[Dschrute3]

I'm sure the OP is a Democrat who's intentionally distorting what the bill actually says. Democrats are all about their Fake News. So i would advise folks research this issue themselves.

Try to get the information from reliable unbiased sources. Because I can assure you, this OP, CNN, MSNBC, and other Democrat Media are not unbiased reliable sources. So take the OP's ramblings with a grain of salt. Do your own research.

 

[bodecea]

That's it exactly, Marty, local elities can't block civil rights.

Period.

So, if the WY lege passes it and the Gov signs it, the legislation then goes to federal court and will be overturned.

Waste of the taxpayers' money.

Depends on the Court.

Still the fault of the LGBT progressive extremists who feel the need to force their views on others.

Sorry to hear that someone tried to force you to be gay.

Sorry someone may ask you to spend 5 minutes going to another baker.

So....a business that seeks to open and gets a business license from the state isn't obligated to follow the business laws?

 

[martybegan]

You're making the case for allowing Jim Crow back. goddam that's ignorant.

Im in no way doing that. I just said there should be no discrimination from the institution, Mr. illiterate.

Jim Crow was ALLOWED in the South, not necessarily mandated. You want to ALLOW a business to refuse service to people of color. That is your support for allowing Jim Crow to come back.

Jim Crow was institutional discrimination. It was ENFORCED by the govt. That's some bullshit.
A business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Its THEIR PROPERTY. Involuntary servitude is against the constitution.
I don't want jim crow back, that's a stupid thing to say. And quit ignorant. I just PA laws, state and federal, to go away. In the least, Federal.

Here is where I disagree with TN, when it comes to actual PA's, restaurants, Movie theaters, point of sale grocery stores, where the public is explicitly invited onto your property, localities should be able to enforce "commerce for all". Where I disagree with progressives is extending that to every form of business out there.

where the public is explicitly invited onto your property
Wouldn't that include just about every business?

Nope. When you contract a bakery to provide a service outside of "walk in, pick up non-customized cake, walk out" the public isn't being invited into a common area for a transaction.

A good example is say a hotel rents rooms for the night, and also rents out catering space. Said hotel should not be permitted to deny a nightly room for anyone based on things like color, creed, orientation or even political views, but they should be able to control who they rent out their catering space to.

 

[AugmentedDog]

That's it exactly, Marty, local elities can't block civil rights.

Period.

So, if the WY lege passes it and the Gov signs it, the legislation then goes to federal court and will be overturned.

Waste of the taxpayers' money.

Depends on the Court.

Still the fault of the LGBT progressive extremists who feel the need to force their views on others.

Sorry to hear that someone tried to force you to be gay.

Sorry someone may ask you to spend 5 minutes going to another baker.

So....a business that seeks to open and gets a business license from the state isn't obligated to follow the business laws?

More
Civil rights laws

 

[martybegan]

That's it exactly, Marty, local elities can't block civil rights.

Period.

So, if the WY lege passes it and the Gov signs it, the legislation then goes to federal court and will be overturned.

Waste of the taxpayers' money.

Depends on the Court.

Still the fault of the LGBT progressive extremists who feel the need to force their views on others.

Yeah...
Of course lgbtq people don't deserve the rights of constitutional citizenship, he said tongue in cheek.
Bigot!

They also don't deserve the automatic right to have their butt hurt override religious constitutional protections, at least the government has to be forced to use the least imposing remedy, maybe signs or something, not a $143k fine for not baking a cake.

 

[martybegan]

From a friend in Wyoming:

The Wyoming State Legislature is considering a bill that, if passed, would become the most oppressive and wide-ranging anti-LGBT law in the nation. It would allow social workers to deny aid, teachers to not teach, health care workers to deny service not only to individuals that identify as LGBT, but their children as well. And that is just part of the bill... this bill tells our LGBT brothers and sisters that they are not worthy to receive services a straight cisgendered individual can receive.

HB-135 is scheduled to be voted upon by the Wyoming House Judiciary Committee this week, its first step toward becoming law. Please call and/or email members of this committee (contact info pasted below) and tell them to VOTE NO ON HB-135. No hate in the equality state!

Remember: Be firm but polite; introduce yourself and say where you're from; make your message personal.

Wyoming House Judiciary Committee -
Dan Kirkbride (Chugwater)
Cell - (307) 331-2265
[email protected]

Mark Baker (Rock Springs)
Cell - (307) 371-5113
[email protected]

Bo Biteman (Ranchester)
Cell - (307) 763-7613
[email protected]

Mark Jennings (Sheridan)
Cell - (307) 461-0697
[email protected]

Jared Olsen (Cheyenne)
Cell - (307) 509-0242
[email protected]

Charles Pelkey (Laramie)
Cell - (307) 920-0542
[email protected]

Bill Pownall (Gillette)
Home - (307) 682-4148
[email protected]

Tim Salazar (Dubois)
Cell - (307) 220-1213
[email protected]

Nathan Winters (Thermopolis)
Home - (307) 864-3690
[email protected]

This is what you get when you use courts to force gay marriage on places that don't want it, and force non-essential businesses to either "bake or die".

When your side becomes unreasonable, don't be surprised when the other side does the exact same thing.

Since when is the LBGT community not entitled to the same rights and protections as any other American

They may be entitled to it, but their rights do not automatically outweigh the rights of others, as in a right of a baker to not participate in a ceremony it finds sinful.

BS

Nice retort, jackass.

 

[martybegan]

That's it exactly, Marty, local elities can't block civil rights.

Period.

So, if the WY lege passes it and the Gov signs it, the legislation then goes to federal court and will be overturned.

Waste of the taxpayers' money.

Depends on the Court.

Still the fault of the LGBT progressive extremists who feel the need to force their views on others.

Sorry to hear that someone tried to force you to be gay.

Sorry someone may ask you to spend 5 minutes going to another baker.

So....a business that seeks to open and gets a business license from the state isn't obligated to follow the business laws?

Any law cannot override constitutional protections. People have a right to free exercise of religion, and that right does not go away just because they want to sell something.

 

[bodecea]

You're making the case for allowing Jim Crow back. goddam that's ignorant.

Im in no way doing that. I just said there should be no discrimination from the institution, Mr. illiterate.

Jim Crow was ALLOWED in the South, not necessarily mandated. You want to ALLOW a business to refuse service to people of color. That is your support for allowing Jim Crow to come back.

Jim Crow was institutional discrimination. It was ENFORCED by the govt. That's some bullshit.
A business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Its THEIR PROPERTY. Involuntary servitude is against the constitution.
I don't want jim crow back, that's a stupid thing to say. And quit ignorant. I just PA laws, state and federal, to go away. In the least, Federal.

Here is where I disagree with TN, when it comes to actual PA's, restaurants, Movie theaters, point of sale grocery stores, where the public is explicitly invited onto your property, localities should be able to enforce "commerce for all". Where I disagree with progressives is extending that to every form of business out there.

where the public is explicitly invited onto your property
Wouldn't that include just about every business?

Yes.