You really don't want Biden to testify...

[jc456]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

Everything Biden did was bi-partisan and at Obama's direction. If he testifies, Lindsey may be called a Trump bootlicker to his face, and accused of using political process to influence elections. And of course Lindsey would say Obama did it first, but he'd be admitting to his own misuse of office.

And there are other goper senators who could foresee being forced to testify themselves. So Biden's not an issue.

Now the Gop might get some dems to agree to calling Hunter. BUT, Bolton won'd be called unless all Dem senators agree.

huh? who runs the senate? Why didn't hunter biden testify in the house when he was on the GOP list?

 

[IM2]

The Senate Ukraine Caucus is a bipartisan[1] caucus of the United States Senate that was inaugurated on February 9, 2015 in Washington, D.C.. Its mission is "to strengthen the political, military, economic, and cultural relationship between the United States and Ukraine."

Its counterpart in the House of Representatives is the Congressional Ukrainian Caucus, which was established in 1997 and consists of 41 representatives.

Members

Senators Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Rob Portman (R-OH) are the caucus' two Co-Chairs. Senators Chris Murphy (D-CT), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), and Ron Johnson (R-WI) are the caucus' Vice-Chairs.[3]

The Senate Ukraine Caucus consists of 16 senators (9 Democrats and 7 Republicans):[4]

• John Barrasso (R-WY)
• Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)
• Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
• Bob Casey (D-PA)
• Ben Cardin (D-MD)

• Dick Durbin (D-IL)
• Joni Ernst (R-IA)
• Ron Johnson (R-WI)
• Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
• James Inhofe (R-OK)
• Chris Murphy (D-CT)

• Gary Peters (D-MI)
• Rob Portman (R-OH)
• Marco Rubio (R-FL)
• Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
• Pat Toomey (R-PA)

Former members
After 2018 elections:

• Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN) (lost reelection)
• Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) (lost reelection)

After 2016 elections:

• Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) (lost reelection)
• Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) (lost reelection)

Relevant legislation

• United States International Programming to Ukraine and Neighboring Regions (S.R. 2183),[5] introduced on March 27, 2014
• Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014 (S.R. 2828),[6] introduced on September 16, 2014

Senate Ukraine Caucus - Wikipedia

The Congressional Ukrainian Caucus, or the CUC, is a bipartisan[1] caucus of the United States House of Representatives that was announced in June 1997 in Washington, D.C., nearly six years after Ukraine declared its independence. Its mission is "organize an association of Members of Congress who share a common concern for building stronger bilateral relations between Ukraine and the United States." With the cooperation with the Ukrainian American community, the Caucus serves to lend support for Ukraine, beginning with democratization efforts and market-oriented reforms, and functions as a source of information for Members of Congress regarding events in Ukraine.

Members
Since its inception, the CUC has been composed of members of both the Democratic and Republican Parties.

Leadership

• Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA)
• Andy Harris (R-MD)
• Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
• Mike Quigley (D-IL)[4]

Members[5][edit]

• Rep. Gus Bilirakis (R-FL)
• Rep. Brendan Boyle (D-PA)
• Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL)
• Rep. Matt Cartwright (D-PA)
• Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA)
• Rep. Danny Davis (D-IL)
• Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)
• Rep. Suzan DelBene (D-WA)
• Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)
• Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY)
• Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-IL)
• Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
• Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY)
• Rep. David Joyce (R-OH)
• Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)
• Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO)
• Rep. James Langevin (D-RI)
• Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-IL)
• Rep. Nita Lowey (D-NY)
• Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
• Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)
• Rep. Candice Miller (R-MI)
• Rep. Tim Murphy (R-PA)
• Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ)
• Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
• Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
• Rep. David Price (D-NC)
• Rep. Tom Reed (R-NY)
• Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL)
• Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)
• Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA)
• Rep. Bill Shuster (R-PA)
• Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA)
• Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ)
• Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC)
• Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR)

Former members
After 2018 election:

• Rep. Mike Capuano (D-MA) (lost primary)
• Rep. Ryan Costello (R-PA) (retired)
• Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY) (lost primary)
• Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA) (retired)
• Rep. Elizabeth Esty (D-CT) (retired)
• Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) (retired)
• Rep. Sander Levin (D-MI) (retired, former Co-Chair)
• Rep. Dave Reichert (R-WA) (retired)
• Rep. Peter Roskam (R-IL) (lost reelection)
• Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) (Died in 2018)

Relevant legislation
Leaders and members of the Congressional Ukrainian Caucus have worked in the past toward the passing of legislation regarding Ukraine and issues that affect the surrounding region and its constituency in America. These efforts include, but are not limited to:

114th Congress:

• H.Res.50 Calling for the release of Ukrainian fighter pilot Nadiya Savchenko, who was captured by Russian forces in Eastern Ukraine and has been held illegally in a Russian prison since July 2014
• H.Res.162 Calling on the President to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity
• H.Res.348 Supporting the right of the people of Ukraine to freely elect their government and determine their future
• H.Res.878 Recognizing the 25th anniversary of Ukraine's act of declaration of independence from the Soviet Union
• H.R.5094 Stability and Democracy for Ukraine Act or the STAND for Ukraine Act

113th Congress:

• H.Res.447 Supporting the democratic and European aspirations of the people of Ukraine, and their right to choose their own future free of intimidation and fear
• H.Res.499 Condemning the violation of Ukrainian sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity by military forces of the Russian Federation
• H.Res.726 Strongly supporting the right of the people of Ukraine to freely determine their future, including their country's relationship with other nations and international organizations, without interference, intimidation, or coercion by other countries
• H.Res.758 Strongly condemning the actions of the Russian Federation, under President Vladimir Putin, which has carried out a policy of aggression against neighboring countries aimed at political and economic domination
• H.R.4152 Support for the Sovereignty, Integrity, Democracy, and Economic Stability of Ukraine Act of 2014
• H.R.5859 Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014

Congressional Ukrainian Caucus - Wikipedia

If you want Biden to testify about Ukraine all these people have to testify as well since they would have allowed Biden to conduct corruptly and did nothing. They heard the same conversation you idiots are posting as evidence of some equivalent quid pro quo to trump. This is where your Obama did it too lies always die, because Obama didn't do it and false equivalences are exactly what they describe-fake or non existent equivalences.

 

[IM2]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

I think we'll risk it

Not a wise risk.

No risk at all, none. The problem you have is that you believe virtually EVERYTHING any Lefty tells you. I don't have the same issue for Righty's. Joe like darn near ALL of the "Ruling Political Class" are as dirty as the day is long.

Actually I don't. But the fact you want Biden to testify shows that you do.

 

[22lcidw]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

I think we'll risk it

Not a wise risk.

No risk at all, none. The problem you have is that you believe virtually EVERYTHING any Lefty tells you. I don't have the same issue for Righty's. Joe like darn near ALL of the "Ruling Political Class" are as dirty as the day is long.

Actually I don't. But the fact you want Biden to testify shows that you do.

Some times you have to admit that there are corrupted Progs. Many of them.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

I think we'll risk it

Not a wise risk.

No risk at all, none. The problem you have is that you believe virtually EVERYTHING any Lefty tells you. I don't have the same issue for Righty's. Joe like darn near ALL of the "Ruling Political Class" are as dirty as the day is long.

Actually I don't. But the fact you want Biden to testify shows that you do.

LOL, not even a good jab kid. Your ignorance of the actual system is duly noted.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

I think we'll risk it

Not a wise risk.

No risk at all, none. The problem you have is that you believe virtually EVERYTHING any Lefty tells you. I don't have the same issue for Righty's. Joe like darn near ALL of the "Ruling Political Class" are as dirty as the day is long.

Actually I don't. But the fact you want Biden to testify shows that you do.

They just can't do it.

 

[MAGAman]

That's the rub. Trump party members don't care about the facts of the case. They only care about if they have enough votes to protect him from facing the consequences of his actions. The majority in the Senate are now participating in Trump's crimes to protect him.

The House Democrats subpoenaed every person and every document they wanted to subpoena.

It's not the Senate's job to find an offense to conform with the Houses impeachment articles after the trial begins.

 

[jc456]

The Senate Ukraine Caucus is a bipartisan[1] caucus of the United States Senate that was inaugurated on February 9, 2015 in Washington, D.C.. Its mission is "to strengthen the political, military, economic, and cultural relationship between the United States and Ukraine."

Its counterpart in the House of Representatives is the Congressional Ukrainian Caucus, which was established in 1997 and consists of 41 representatives.

Members

Senators Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Rob Portman (R-OH) are the caucus' two Co-Chairs. Senators Chris Murphy (D-CT), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), and Ron Johnson (R-WI) are the caucus' Vice-Chairs.[3]

The Senate Ukraine Caucus consists of 16 senators (9 Democrats and 7 Republicans):[4]

• John Barrasso (R-WY)
• Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)
• Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
• Bob Casey (D-PA)
• Ben Cardin (D-MD)

• Dick Durbin (D-IL)
• Joni Ernst (R-IA)
• Ron Johnson (R-WI)
• Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
• James Inhofe (R-OK)
• Chris Murphy (D-CT)

• Gary Peters (D-MI)
• Rob Portman (R-OH)
• Marco Rubio (R-FL)
• Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
• Pat Toomey (R-PA)

Former members
After 2018 elections:

• Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN) (lost reelection)
• Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) (lost reelection)

After 2016 elections:

• Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) (lost reelection)
• Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) (lost reelection)

Relevant legislation

• United States International Programming to Ukraine and Neighboring Regions (S.R. 2183),[5] introduced on March 27, 2014
• Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014 (S.R. 2828),[6] introduced on September 16, 2014

Senate Ukraine Caucus - Wikipedia

The Congressional Ukrainian Caucus, or the CUC, is a bipartisan[1] caucus of the United States House of Representatives that was announced in June 1997 in Washington, D.C., nearly six years after Ukraine declared its independence. Its mission is "organize an association of Members of Congress who share a common concern for building stronger bilateral relations between Ukraine and the United States." With the cooperation with the Ukrainian American community, the Caucus serves to lend support for Ukraine, beginning with democratization efforts and market-oriented reforms, and functions as a source of information for Members of Congress regarding events in Ukraine.

Members
Since its inception, the CUC has been composed of members of both the Democratic and Republican Parties.

Leadership

• Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA)
• Andy Harris (R-MD)
• Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
• Mike Quigley (D-IL)[4]

Members[5][edit]

• Rep. Gus Bilirakis (R-FL)
• Rep. Brendan Boyle (D-PA)
• Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL)
• Rep. Matt Cartwright (D-PA)
• Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA)
• Rep. Danny Davis (D-IL)
• Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)
• Rep. Suzan DelBene (D-WA)
• Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)
• Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY)
• Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-IL)
• Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
• Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY)
• Rep. David Joyce (R-OH)
• Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)
• Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO)
• Rep. James Langevin (D-RI)
• Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-IL)
• Rep. Nita Lowey (D-NY)
• Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
• Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)
• Rep. Candice Miller (R-MI)
• Rep. Tim Murphy (R-PA)
• Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ)
• Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
• Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
• Rep. David Price (D-NC)
• Rep. Tom Reed (R-NY)
• Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL)
• Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)
• Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA)
• Rep. Bill Shuster (R-PA)
• Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA)
• Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ)
• Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC)
• Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR)

Former members
After 2018 election:

• Rep. Mike Capuano (D-MA) (lost primary)
• Rep. Ryan Costello (R-PA) (retired)
• Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY) (lost primary)
• Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA) (retired)
• Rep. Elizabeth Esty (D-CT) (retired)
• Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) (retired)
• Rep. Sander Levin (D-MI) (retired, former Co-Chair)
• Rep. Dave Reichert (R-WA) (retired)
• Rep. Peter Roskam (R-IL) (lost reelection)
• Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) (Died in 2018)

Relevant legislation
Leaders and members of the Congressional Ukrainian Caucus have worked in the past toward the passing of legislation regarding Ukraine and issues that affect the surrounding region and its constituency in America. These efforts include, but are not limited to:

114th Congress:

• H.Res.50 Calling for the release of Ukrainian fighter pilot Nadiya Savchenko, who was captured by Russian forces in Eastern Ukraine and has been held illegally in a Russian prison since July 2014
• H.Res.162 Calling on the President to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity
• H.Res.348 Supporting the right of the people of Ukraine to freely elect their government and determine their future
• H.Res.878 Recognizing the 25th anniversary of Ukraine's act of declaration of independence from the Soviet Union
• H.R.5094 Stability and Democracy for Ukraine Act or the STAND for Ukraine Act

113th Congress:

• H.Res.447 Supporting the democratic and European aspirations of the people of Ukraine, and their right to choose their own future free of intimidation and fear
• H.Res.499 Condemning the violation of Ukrainian sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity by military forces of the Russian Federation
• H.Res.726 Strongly supporting the right of the people of Ukraine to freely determine their future, including their country's relationship with other nations and international organizations, without interference, intimidation, or coercion by other countries
• H.Res.758 Strongly condemning the actions of the Russian Federation, under President Vladimir Putin, which has carried out a policy of aggression against neighboring countries aimed at political and economic domination
• H.R.4152 Support for the Sovereignty, Integrity, Democracy, and Economic Stability of Ukraine Act of 2014
• H.R.5859 Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014

Congressional Ukrainian Caucus - Wikipedia

If you want Biden to testify about Ukraine all these people have to testify as well since they would have allowed Biden to conduct corruptly and did nothing. They heard the same conversation you idiots are posting as evidence of some equivalent quid pro quo to trump. This is where your Obama did it too lies always die, because Obama didn't do it and false equivalences are exactly what they describe-fake or non existent equivalences.

at least you acknowledge biden as corrupt.

 

[MAGAman]

Actually I don't. But the fact you want Biden to testify shows that you do.

Biden's corruption is valid.

 

[IM2]

The Senate Ukraine Caucus is a bipartisan[1] caucus of the United States Senate that was inaugurated on February 9, 2015 in Washington, D.C.. Its mission is "to strengthen the political, military, economic, and cultural relationship between the United States and Ukraine."

Its counterpart in the House of Representatives is the Congressional Ukrainian Caucus, which was established in 1997 and consists of 41 representatives.

Members

Senators Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Rob Portman (R-OH) are the caucus' two Co-Chairs. Senators Chris Murphy (D-CT), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), and Ron Johnson (R-WI) are the caucus' Vice-Chairs.[3]

The Senate Ukraine Caucus consists of 16 senators (9 Democrats and 7 Republicans):[4]

• John Barrasso (R-WY)
• Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)
• Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
• Bob Casey (D-PA)
• Ben Cardin (D-MD)

• Dick Durbin (D-IL)
• Joni Ernst (R-IA)
• Ron Johnson (R-WI)
• Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
• James Inhofe (R-OK)
• Chris Murphy (D-CT)

• Gary Peters (D-MI)
• Rob Portman (R-OH)
• Marco Rubio (R-FL)
• Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
• Pat Toomey (R-PA)

Former members
After 2018 elections:

• Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN) (lost reelection)
• Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) (lost reelection)

After 2016 elections:

• Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) (lost reelection)
• Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) (lost reelection)

Relevant legislation

• United States International Programming to Ukraine and Neighboring Regions (S.R. 2183),[5] introduced on March 27, 2014
• Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014 (S.R. 2828),[6] introduced on September 16, 2014

Senate Ukraine Caucus - Wikipedia

The Congressional Ukrainian Caucus, or the CUC, is a bipartisan[1] caucus of the United States House of Representatives that was announced in June 1997 in Washington, D.C., nearly six years after Ukraine declared its independence. Its mission is "organize an association of Members of Congress who share a common concern for building stronger bilateral relations between Ukraine and the United States." With the cooperation with the Ukrainian American community, the Caucus serves to lend support for Ukraine, beginning with democratization efforts and market-oriented reforms, and functions as a source of information for Members of Congress regarding events in Ukraine.

Members
Since its inception, the CUC has been composed of members of both the Democratic and Republican Parties.

Leadership

• Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA)
• Andy Harris (R-MD)
• Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
• Mike Quigley (D-IL)[4]

Members[5][edit]

• Rep. Gus Bilirakis (R-FL)
• Rep. Brendan Boyle (D-PA)
• Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL)
• Rep. Matt Cartwright (D-PA)
• Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA)
• Rep. Danny Davis (D-IL)
• Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)
• Rep. Suzan DelBene (D-WA)
• Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)
• Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY)
• Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-IL)
• Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
• Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY)
• Rep. David Joyce (R-OH)
• Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)
• Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO)
• Rep. James Langevin (D-RI)
• Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-IL)
• Rep. Nita Lowey (D-NY)
• Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
• Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)
• Rep. Candice Miller (R-MI)
• Rep. Tim Murphy (R-PA)
• Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ)
• Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
• Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
• Rep. David Price (D-NC)
• Rep. Tom Reed (R-NY)
• Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL)
• Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)
• Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA)
• Rep. Bill Shuster (R-PA)
• Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA)
• Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ)
• Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC)
• Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR)

Former members
After 2018 election:

• Rep. Mike Capuano (D-MA) (lost primary)
• Rep. Ryan Costello (R-PA) (retired)
• Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY) (lost primary)
• Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA) (retired)
• Rep. Elizabeth Esty (D-CT) (retired)
• Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) (retired)
• Rep. Sander Levin (D-MI) (retired, former Co-Chair)
• Rep. Dave Reichert (R-WA) (retired)
• Rep. Peter Roskam (R-IL) (lost reelection)
• Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) (Died in 2018)

Relevant legislation
Leaders and members of the Congressional Ukrainian Caucus have worked in the past toward the passing of legislation regarding Ukraine and issues that affect the surrounding region and its constituency in America. These efforts include, but are not limited to:

114th Congress:

• H.Res.50 Calling for the release of Ukrainian fighter pilot Nadiya Savchenko, who was captured by Russian forces in Eastern Ukraine and has been held illegally in a Russian prison since July 2014
• H.Res.162 Calling on the President to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity
• H.Res.348 Supporting the right of the people of Ukraine to freely elect their government and determine their future
• H.Res.878 Recognizing the 25th anniversary of Ukraine's act of declaration of independence from the Soviet Union
• H.R.5094 Stability and Democracy for Ukraine Act or the STAND for Ukraine Act

113th Congress:

• H.Res.447 Supporting the democratic and European aspirations of the people of Ukraine, and their right to choose their own future free of intimidation and fear
• H.Res.499 Condemning the violation of Ukrainian sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity by military forces of the Russian Federation
• H.Res.726 Strongly supporting the right of the people of Ukraine to freely determine their future, including their country's relationship with other nations and international organizations, without interference, intimidation, or coercion by other countries
• H.Res.758 Strongly condemning the actions of the Russian Federation, under President Vladimir Putin, which has carried out a policy of aggression against neighboring countries aimed at political and economic domination
• H.R.4152 Support for the Sovereignty, Integrity, Democracy, and Economic Stability of Ukraine Act of 2014
• H.R.5859 Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014

Congressional Ukrainian Caucus - Wikipedia

If you want Biden to testify about Ukraine all these people have to testify as well since they would have allowed Biden to conduct corruptly and did nothing. They heard the same conversation you idiots are posting as evidence of some equivalent quid pro quo to trump. This is where your Obama did it too lies always die, because Obama didn't do it and false equivalences are exactly what they describe-fake or non existent equivalences.

at least you acknowledge biden as corrupt.

Actually I have not.

 

[IM2]

Actually I don't. But the fact you want Biden to testify shows that you do.

Biden's corruption is valid.

Wrong.

 

[IM2]

Missing-Witness Rule Law and Legal Definition

Missing witness rule means the failure to present a witness for trial by a party to the litigation. In certain cases, the litigant will fail to produce the witness in custody, as his/her evidence will be unfavorable to the litigating party. This is done mainly in cases where the unfavorable witness testimony will be admissible as evidence in the court. This doctrine is also called the empty chair doctrine.

Missing-Witness Rule Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

An Adverse Inference can be drawn based on this rule against the party refusing to produce witnesses.

Adverse Inference Law and Legal Definition

An adverse inference generally is a legal inference, adverse to the concerned party, made from a party's silence or the absence of requested evidence. For example, as a sanction for spoliation of evidence, a court may instruct the jury it could draw an inference that the evidence contained in the destroyed documents would have been unfavorable.

Adverse Inference Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

This also applies to testimonies.

 

[basquebromance]

GOP senators believe they have the votes to block witnesses

McConnell threatened Murkowski with giving Alaska back to Putin?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Missing-Witness Rule Law and Legal Definition

Missing witness rule means the failure to present a witness for trial by a party to the litigation. In certain cases, the litigant will fail to produce the witness in custody, as his/her evidence will be unfavorable to the litigating party. This is done mainly in cases where the unfavorable witness testimony will be admissible as evidence in the court. This doctrine is also called the empty chair doctrine.

Missing-Witness Rule Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

An Adverse Inference can be drawn based on this rule against the party refusing to produce witnesses.

Adverse Inference Law and Legal Definition

An adverse inference generally is a legal inference, adverse to the concerned party, made from a party's silence or the absence of requested evidence. For example, as a sanction for spoliation of evidence, a court may instruct the jury it could draw an inference that the evidence contained in the destroyed documents would have been unfavorable.

Adverse Inference Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

This also applies to testimonies.

Didn't you guys say you had "overwhelming" and "incontrovertible" evidence?

What chew talking 'bout, Willis?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

Right.

Everyone has seen the evidence which far supasses what you have on trump.

But there was no corruption.

And you don't have your head up your ass.

You have no such evidence.

Yeah.....

Good old Hunter getting 1MM a year for working in an industry he knows nothing about.

Illegal....hardly.

Corrupt....I'd like to hear the explanation. And spare the "family name" crap.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

I think we'll risk it

Not a wise risk.

How is it that you are so into advising your adversaries about how not to hurt themselves.

Wouldn't that be working against yourself ?

Makes me wonder if you are liar. Well, I really don't wonder.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The same corrupt Ukrainian government asked Vindman muliple times to be their SecDef, he's your Star witness and he likely replied that he could help corrupt Ukraine more and do more damage to the USA right where he was. He's a spy and a genuine traitor on par with the Rosenbergs

The crazy speaks again.

Maybe.

But the moron responded.

 

[MAGAman]

Missing-Witness Rule Law and Legal Definition

Missing witness rule means the failure to present a witness for trial by a party to the litigation. In certain cases, the litigant will fail to produce the witness in custody, as his/her evidence will be unfavorable to the litigating party. This is done mainly in cases where the unfavorable witness testimony will be admissible as evidence in the court. This doctrine is also called the empty chair doctrine.

Missing-Witness Rule Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

An Adverse Inference can be drawn based on this rule against the party refusing to produce witnesses.

Adverse Inference Law and Legal Definition

An adverse inference generally is a legal inference, adverse to the concerned party, made from a party's silence or the absence of requested evidence. For example, as a sanction for spoliation of evidence, a court may instruct the jury it could draw an inference that the evidence contained in the destroyed documents would have been unfavorable.

Adverse Inference Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

This also applies to testimonies.

Hillary's erased emails are irrelevant to this thread.

 

[yidnar]

Trump didn't assert executive privilege. He asserted on camera that he would simply withhold everything they asked for including testimony. After he himself didn't assert it on the summary of the phone call. That is not how executive privilege works even if he did claim it.

As for the rest. The good thing about Trump is that he says the silent part out loud. His intent as to why he asked the Ukrainians to investigate the Biden's and crowdstrike has been made sufficiently clear by testimony and actions within the administration to make it clear beyond a REASONABLE doubt. If this was a criminal and not impeachment trail I don't think securing a conviction would be a problem on abuse of power. Maybe a bit trickier on obstruction since that is mostly an untested legal issue but I'dd still be more comfortable as a prosecutor there.

In fact, Trump did assert executive privilege regarding testimony and documents the Democrats wanted and the proper way for the Democrats to have proceeded would have been to go to court and demand the documents and testimony and not to level the made up charge of obstructing Congress. While you may believe Trump asked for the investigation only to benefit himself, no evidence has been presented to support that belief, which means no evidence has been presented to support the charge of abuse of power.

Trump waived any executive privilege on Bolton....

Legal Experts: Trump Reaction to Bolton Effectively Waived Executive Privilege Claim, Was ‘Another Unforced Error’

In fact the article does not say the President formally waived executive privilege on Bolton but argues that he "effectively" waived executive privilege and that is an argument a court would have to rule on.

And if it gets contested in court -- Trump will lose....

OR....

If it is so obvious that Bolton is lying -- let him testify under oath and convict on perjury.....if he is lying...

but Trump knows Bolton isn't lying....which is why he is so triggered

Even Trump's former chief of Staff believes Bolton more than Trump....why? Is Kelly a deep state plant controlled by Obama too?

John Kelly, ex-WH chief of staff, says he believes Bolton's account of Ukraine allegation - CNNPolitics

Since we all know that the President will be acquitted regardless of what Bolton may have said in his book, having him testify serves no legitimate purpose; in fact calling any witnesses serves no legitimate purpose.

it keeps Sanders from campaigning as much as he needs to !

 

[BULLDOG]

That's the rub. Trump party members don't care about the facts of the case. They only care about if they have enough votes to protect him from facing the consequences of his actions. The majority in the Senate are now participating in Trump's crimes to protect him.

The House Democrats subpoenaed every person and every document they wanted to subpoena.

It's not the Senate's job to find an offense to conform with the Houses impeachment articles after the trial begins.

No, it's the senate's job to be the jury. I've never heard of any jury deciding what evidence the prosecution is allowed to present.