You really don't want Biden to testify...

[JusticeHammer]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

There is no reason for anyone to testify since we all know that the end result will be acquittal.

You wish. Unless the Trump party finds a bucket full of integrity, they will still acquit him, but there is still plenty of reason to question witnesses.

Like you idiot libs care about integrity, whatever you scum accuse Trump of your guys are ten times worse.

 

[forkup]

Lol just because someone insists something isn't clear doesn't mean it isn't. It is clear that the US has certain procedures in place to investigate corruption and how to enlist cooperation with other countries. I'll make it as simple as I can.

The president is not a law enforcement officer. So it would most likely somewhere in the justice department. There would be a suspicion of something and they would open an investigation. If it is deemed necessary to enlist the Ukrainians they would contact the state department who would use the legal attachees in-country to ask for it. Those procedures are important if you ever want to secure a conviction.

None of that happened, in fact pains were taken to not use regular channels. We have the testimony under oath from Sondland that he was ordered and understood that he needed to deliver the message to Ukraine that Trump wanted an announcement from the Ukrainians that mentioned the Biden's and Hillary this is on record. This is not hearsay but direct evidence from the man in place. Now if you don't find that convincing by itself I can only say that you are either stupid or being deliberately obtuse and for the record, I don't think you are stupid.

Unless you can give a believable explanation of why it was done of the books so to speak and was targeted at those specific individuals that doesn't involve political benefit to Trump that is and only that

The burden of proof is on the prosecution, not on the defendant, so if no clear evidence can be found that the President asked for the investigation only to benefit himself, then there is no basis for the charge of abuse of power.

I gave you the evidence. Sondlands testimony. plus the way this whole thing was conducted. See if I have direct evidence... usually the defense, that's you atm. Needs to find a way to counter it. Not acknowledging that I presented anything is not a defence that actually works in the real world.

You presented no clear evidence that the President asked for the investigation only to benefit himself. Your argument was that since you can't think of any other reason why he asked for the investigation, that must have been the reason.

My argument was that nobody can give another explanation, At least not one that reaches the threshold reasonable. For this to be an appeal to ignorance my explanation should not be provable in this context beyond a reasonable doubt.Plus I have a witness.

There is no witness to Trump's reason for asking for the investigation. The simple explanation of why he wanted the investigation is that the President believed the Obama administration was rife with corruption, and that some of the evidence of it was in Ukraine. We have testimony from Obama's ambassador to Ukraine that on the eve of the 2016 election, the Obama administration was very worried about the Hunter Biden scandal breaking out during the election, and Joe Biden was likely sent to Ukraine to bribe or threaten the Ukrainian government into ending the investigation into Burisma. In addition some believed that Crowdstrike, the company that claimed it had found evidence that the Russians had hacked the DNC server, had a facility in Ukraine in which evidence existed that would contradict that claim. Since this claim of Russian hacking was the basis for the whole anti Russian nonsense promoted by the Obama WH in collusion with the DNC and the Clinton campaign and has severely restricted the ability of the US to deal constructively with Russia, it is important to get to the truth about what went on in 2016 and that could only be done by enlisting the aid of the Ukrainian government. Since no specific crimes were being investigated the investigation did not fall within the purview of any law enforcement agency, so it was up to the President or his representatives to ask the newly elected president of Ukraine for assistance in the investigation.

Far from expecting any personal benefit from this investigation, the President, no doubt understood that the Democrats would be entirely unprincipled in their efforts to hide the extensive corruption in the Obama administration, the DNC and the Clinton campaign and realized he ran a considerable political risk by opening this investigation, but not being a professional politician like Obama, Biden or Pelosi, the President chose to accept this risk in order to get to the truth and free the US from the lies of the Obama administration.

Clearly, there was no abuse of power.

I will say this for one last time it is getting boring beyond freaking belief. If you want an investigation into corruption you let the DOJ and State Department run it. Otherwise you ruin any chance you have to get a conviction or extradition order through the courts. That is a simple fact. Habeus Corpus,a fundamental piece of jurisprudence protects its citizens from arbitrary investigation. The president "heard" something is as arbitrary as it gets.

Burisma and the Bidens are something that has been well covered. The reason for Biden going to Ukraine and demanding the firing of the prosecutor has been well established YEARS before this broke and anyone with high school level reading skills can comprehend it. It involved several countries, the World Bank and the US administration all demanding his dismissal. On Bidens and Ukraine, Wild Claims With Little Basis Fact: Trump TV Ad Misleads on Biden and UkraineCrowdstrike has been debunked by every acronym in government you could care to mention.
I again added some links

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Boy are you going to be disappointed. Americans aren't dumbed down quite enough yet to elect one of the wackadoos on the left. Sadly, a few more years of indoctrination and illegal immigration may do the trick.

TRump is losing to Biden, Sanders, Warren and even Buttigeig...

And that's before the recession kicks in.

Plus, he doesn't even have a path to the White House!

I love how you think Trump is going to sit idly by and let Soros or the Fed hurt Americans by trying to crash the markets

 

[colfax_m]

There is no witness to Trump's reason for asking for the investigation. The simple explanation of why he wanted the investigation is that the President believed the Obama administration was rife with corruption, and that some of the evidence of it was in Ukraine. We have testimony from Obama's ambassador to Ukraine that on the eve of the 2016 election, the Obama administration was very worried about the Hunter Biden scandal breaking out during the election, and Joe Biden was likely sent to Ukraine to bribe or threaten the Ukrainian government into ending the investigation into Burisma

The simpler explanation is that he wanted Biden under a cloud of suspicion during his campaign just like Clinton was. If Trump thought the Obama administration and Biden were rife with corruption, he had well over 2 years to investigate it before Biden ran for president, but curiously he waited for the campaign to roll around. Not a coincidence.

There is no testimony that Biden was sent to bribe or threaten to get an end to the investigation.

In addition some believed that Crowdstrike, the company that claimed it had found evidence that the Russians had hacked the DNC server, had a facility in Ukraine in which evidence existed that would contradict that claim. Since this claim of Russian hacking was the basis for the whole anti Russian nonsense promoted by the Obama WH in collusion with the DNC and the Clinton campaign and has severely restricted the ability of the US to deal constructively with Russia, it is important to get to the truth about what went on in 2016 and that could only be done by enlisting the aid of the Ukrainian government. Since no specific crimes were being investigated the investigation did not fall within the purview of any law enforcement agency, so it was up to the President or his representatives to ask the newly elected president of Ukraine for assistance in the investigation.

"Some believe"? Who are these people and why do they believe it? This has been part of a Russian disinformation campaign that Trump has bought into (which is a huge concern to me regardless). The truth has gotten out on 2016. It was investigated extensively by our government. The reports are available for anyone to see. Hacking is a crime. Counterintelligence is the purview of the FBI and there is no reason that they wouldn't be involved.

Far from expecting any personal benefit from this investigation, the President, no doubt understood that the Democrats would be entirely unprincipled in their efforts to hide the extensive corruption in the Obama administration, the DNC and the Clinton campaign and realized he ran a considerable political risk by opening this investigation, but not being a professional politician like Obama, Biden or Pelosi, the President chose to accept this risk in order to get to the truth and free the US from the lies of the Obama administration.

If you don't think that Trump thought there was a personal benefit to his campaign for digging up dirt on Biden, then you're crazy.

 

[MAGAman]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

Wrong again.

Biden's family influence peddling business is a Biden and Democrat Priary problem.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

Wrong again.

Biden's family influence peddling business is a Biden and Democrat Priary problem.

The only reason other democrats aren't criticizing Bidens Money Laundering Operation is they all have family members they're going to place on various foreign corporate boards.

Thank Quid Pro Joe for blowing the lid off of the Stalinist democrats Money Laundering Operation

 

[jc456]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

There is no reason for anyone to testify since we all know that the end result will be acquittal.

Actually there is. We need to know the facts. Then when trump is acquitted those acquitting a guilty man and the guilty man himself will be held to account in November.

Wasn't the House supposed to present "facts"?

again, if the dems wish more witnesses, then the senate should dismiss the articles presented and tell the house to go get their witnesses and re-present the articles. the senate doesn't do witnesses. That is the pure legal way.

 

[BULLDOG]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

There is no reason for anyone to testify since we all know that the end result will be acquittal.

You wish. Unless the Trump party finds a bucket full of integrity, they will still acquit him, but there is still plenty of reason to question witnesses.

Um, I thought the House was supposed to present evidence from witnesses

And they have presented evidence from their investigation. This is now the trial. Trials have witnesses.

Their evidence is not sufficient. If an ambulance chaser lawyer files a frivolous suit, the judge will look at the "evidence" and determine that he/she is not wasting their time calling witnesses. That is exactly what is happening here. The House is the equivalent of a bunch of ambulance chasers.

In this case, the Senate is not the Judge. They are the jury.

 

[BULLDOG]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

There is no reason for anyone to testify since we all know that the end result will be acquittal.

You wish. Unless the Trump party finds a bucket full of integrity, they will still acquit him, but there is still plenty of reason to question witnesses.

the dems have called 17 witnesses how many more do yall want 18 20 100 the point is you have no concrete evidence all you have is hearsay and opinions [funny how the whistle blower rules were changed to allow hearsay before the whistle blower spouted his bull ]. and even if the POTUS entertained the idea of delaying money to Ukraine until possible corruption was looked into thats within his authority ! if you thin k 10s of millions of Americans that voted for Trump would accept a removal on these thin bull crap grounds you are mistaken .. the house builds the case and then when they are done they deliver the case to the senate [remember the solemn procession by the crooks with the stacks of lies being wheeled over to the senate] ..... they had their chance to build a case ... if they thought the case was weak [which it most definitely is ] they should have continued building on it in the house impeachment hearing instead of sitting on it for nearly a month before sending it to the senate ... now its time for the senate to rule on the case they have built ! and any republican that votes to extend this crap over hearsay and rumors may be voted out and replaced by another republican in their primary ...and they know it !

The house investigated to see if there was enough evidence to impeach. There have been no witnesses in the trial.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The burden of proof is on the prosecution, not on the defendant, so if no clear evidence can be found that the President asked for the investigation only to benefit himself, then there is no basis for the charge of abuse of power.

I gave you the evidence. Sondlands testimony. plus the way this whole thing was conducted. See if I have direct evidence... usually the defense, that's you atm. Needs to find a way to counter it. Not acknowledging that I presented anything is not a defence that actually works in the real world.

You presented no clear evidence that the President asked for the investigation only to benefit himself. Your argument was that since you can't think of any other reason why he asked for the investigation, that must have been the reason.

My argument was that nobody can give another explanation, At least not one that reaches the threshold reasonable. For this to be an appeal to ignorance my explanation should not be provable in this context beyond a reasonable doubt.Plus I have a witness.

There is no witness to Trump's reason for asking for the investigation. The simple explanation of why he wanted the investigation is that the President believed the Obama administration was rife with corruption, and that some of the evidence of it was in Ukraine. We have testimony from Obama's ambassador to Ukraine that on the eve of the 2016 election, the Obama administration was very worried about the Hunter Biden scandal breaking out during the election, and Joe Biden was likely sent to Ukraine to bribe or threaten the Ukrainian government into ending the investigation into Burisma. In addition some believed that Crowdstrike, the company that claimed it had found evidence that the Russians had hacked the DNC server, had a facility in Ukraine in which evidence existed that would contradict that claim. Since this claim of Russian hacking was the basis for the whole anti Russian nonsense promoted by the Obama WH in collusion with the DNC and the Clinton campaign and has severely restricted the ability of the US to deal constructively with Russia, it is important to get to the truth about what went on in 2016 and that could only be done by enlisting the aid of the Ukrainian government. Since no specific crimes were being investigated the investigation did not fall within the purview of any law enforcement agency, so it was up to the President or his representatives to ask the newly elected president of Ukraine for assistance in the investigation.

Far from expecting any personal benefit from this investigation, the President, no doubt understood that the Democrats would be entirely unprincipled in their efforts to hide the extensive corruption in the Obama administration, the DNC and the Clinton campaign and realized he ran a considerable political risk by opening this investigation, but not being a professional politician like Obama, Biden or Pelosi, the President chose to accept this risk in order to get to the truth and free the US from the lies of the Obama administration.

Clearly, there was no abuse of power.

I will say this for one last time it is getting boring beyond freaking belief. If you want an investigation into corruption you let the DOJ and State Department run it. Otherwise you ruin any chance you have to get a conviction or extradition order through the courts. That is a simple fact. Habeus Corpus,a fundamental piece of jurisprudence protects its citizens from arbitrary investigation. The president "heard" something is as arbitrary as it gets.

Burisma and the Bidens are something that has been well covered. The reason for Biden going to Ukraine and demanding the firing of the prosecutor has been well established YEARS before this broke and anyone with high school level reading skills can comprehend it. It involved several countries, the World Bank and the US administration all demanding his dismissal. On Bidens and Ukraine, Wild Claims With Little Basis Fact: Trump TV Ad Misleads on Biden and UkraineCrowdstrike has been debunked by every acronym in government you could care to mention.
I again added some links

Hopefully this will be the last time you post this nonsense since none of it has any relevance to the charge of abuse of power.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

There is no reason for anyone to testify since we all know that the end result will be acquittal.

You wish. Unless the Trump party finds a bucket full of integrity, they will still acquit him, but there is still plenty of reason to question witnesses.

the dems have called 17 witnesses how many more do yall want 18 20 100 the point is you have no concrete evidence all you have is hearsay and opinions [funny how the whistle blower rules were changed to allow hearsay before the whistle blower spouted his bull ]. and even if the POTUS entertained the idea of delaying money to Ukraine until possible corruption was looked into thats within his authority ! if you thin k 10s of millions of Americans that voted for Trump would accept a removal on these thin bull crap grounds you are mistaken .. the house builds the case and then when they are done they deliver the case to the senate [remember the solemn procession by the crooks with the stacks of lies being wheeled over to the senate] ..... they had their chance to build a case ... if they thought the case was weak [which it most definitely is ] they should have continued building on it in the house impeachment hearing instead of sitting on it for nearly a month before sending it to the senate ... now its time for the senate to rule on the case they have built ! and any republican that votes to extend this crap over hearsay and rumors may be voted out and replaced by another republican in their primary ...and they know it !

The house investigated to see if there was enough evidence to impeach. There have been no witnesses in the trial.

Which is appropriate since no witness testimony will change the outcome, acquittal.

 

[BULLDOG]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

There is no reason for anyone to testify since we all know that the end result will be acquittal.

You wish. Unless the Trump party finds a bucket full of integrity, they will still acquit him, but there is still plenty of reason to question witnesses.

the dems have called 17 witnesses how many more do yall want 18 20 100 the point is you have no concrete evidence all you have is hearsay and opinions [funny how the whistle blower rules were changed to allow hearsay before the whistle blower spouted his bull ]. and even if the POTUS entertained the idea of delaying money to Ukraine until possible corruption was looked into thats within his authority ! if you thin k 10s of millions of Americans that voted for Trump would accept a removal on these thin bull crap grounds you are mistaken .. the house builds the case and then when they are done they deliver the case to the senate [remember the solemn procession by the crooks with the stacks of lies being wheeled over to the senate] ..... they had their chance to build a case ... if they thought the case was weak [which it most definitely is ] they should have continued building on it in the house impeachment hearing instead of sitting on it for nearly a month before sending it to the senate ... now its time for the senate to rule on the case they have built ! and any republican that votes to extend this crap over hearsay and rumors may be voted out and replaced by another republican in their primary ...and they know it !

The house investigated to see if there was enough evidence to impeach. There have been no witnesses in the trial.

Which is appropriate since no witness testimony will change the outcome, acquittal.

If you actually believe that, then why all the whining?

 

[JustAGuy1]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

View attachment 303155

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

I think we'll risk it

 

[toomuchtime_]

There is no reason for anyone to testify since we all know that the end result will be acquittal.

You wish. Unless the Trump party finds a bucket full of integrity, they will still acquit him, but there is still plenty of reason to question witnesses.

the dems have called 17 witnesses how many more do yall want 18 20 100 the point is you have no concrete evidence all you have is hearsay and opinions [funny how the whistle blower rules were changed to allow hearsay before the whistle blower spouted his bull ]. and even if the POTUS entertained the idea of delaying money to Ukraine until possible corruption was looked into thats within his authority ! if you thin k 10s of millions of Americans that voted for Trump would accept a removal on these thin bull crap grounds you are mistaken .. the house builds the case and then when they are done they deliver the case to the senate [remember the solemn procession by the crooks with the stacks of lies being wheeled over to the senate] ..... they had their chance to build a case ... if they thought the case was weak [which it most definitely is ] they should have continued building on it in the house impeachment hearing instead of sitting on it for nearly a month before sending it to the senate ... now its time for the senate to rule on the case they have built ! and any republican that votes to extend this crap over hearsay and rumors may be voted out and replaced by another republican in their primary ...and they know it !

The house investigated to see if there was enough evidence to impeach. There have been no witnesses in the trial.

Which is appropriate since no witness testimony will change the outcome, acquittal.

If you actually believe that, then why all the whining?

Anyone who can do arithmetic believes that. It is time for Congress to end this farce and get back to work, and it is time for the Democrats to apologize to the American people for putting the country through all of this.

 

[Claudette]

Because you then are going to have to ask some current republican senators to testify.

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Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption
February 12, 2016 | Press Releases

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), co-chairs of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, and Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on European Affairs spearheaded a letter expressing concern to Ukrainian President Poroshenko regarding the recent resignation of Minister of Economy Aivaras Abromavi?ius, who has alleged that corruption remains a dire challenge within the Ukrainian political system. In the letter, Portman, Durbin, and Shaheen said they recognized the challenges facing the Ukrainian government two years after the Maidan brought positive change to Ukraine. They also reaffirmed their commitment to help President Poroshenko confront the duel threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine as well as entrenched corruption in the government and to create a transparent and democratic government. The letter was also signed by Senators Ron Johnson (R-WI), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

“We recognize ‎that your governing coalition faces not only endemic corruption left from decades of mismanagement and cronyism, but also an illegal armed seizure of territory by Russia and its proxies,” the senators wrote. “Tackling such obstacles to reforms amidst a war and the loss of much of southeastern Ukraine’s economic productivity is a formidable challenge -- one which we remain committed to helping you overcome.”

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman

This press release is from the office of Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

There was no Biden corruption. trump knows this.

There is no reason for anyone to testify since we all know that the end result will be acquittal.

Actually there is. We need to know the facts. Then when trump is acquitted those acquitting a guilty man and the guilty man himself will be held to account in November.

Wasn't the House supposed to present "facts"?

Yup. That was their job and all I heard was hearsay from folks who had no direct contact with anyone.

What a giant shit show the Dems have hatched. They have paved the way for a Trump win in 2020.

Go Dems LOL

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

No, they should not but if the left like you want Bolton then you know the right will want Hunter and Joe, so why play this game?

My reaction to Hunter and Joe Biden being called to testify....

So..
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I am a progressive -- which means I am not some sycophant who vicariously see themselves thru some politician...so this "if Bolton testifies, Biden will be called to testify" doesn't move me....have him testify -- if he is guilty of all of these crimes yall claim to have evidence on, then he will have to testify under oath about them.....

However, I will be asking myself why these Trumpers don't just turn over that secret evidence they claim to have to the FBI instead...that would definitely be exculpatory evidence for Trump....but whenever I ask about evidence ..*crickets* -- or they run the defeatist excuse of "it doesn't matter anyway because Biden will never be prosecuted" -- why not??

Seeing as tho the DOJ can indict half of Trump's campaign (including personal lawyer) why can't they indict ANYONE from the Biden, Clinton, Obama camp?? are these folks just that brilliant and powerful??

What this highlights is the fact Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler ran with the Impeachment without making sure they got everything they needed ...

Now Bolton is making your side look like fools and it also make Trump look like a fool!

Bolton is making my side look like fools?? My side didn't hire Bolton and involve him in some Ukrainian shakedown scheme -- that was Trump's side....or your side (even tho you like to pretend otherwise)…

And how do I know its your side -- because here you are running the same BS talking points to me that Trumpers do....never addressing the facts of the case -- like Schiff said...do you truly think Trump wouldn't try to abuse his power to extort a foreign nation into getting dirt on a political opponent?

Trumpers have done exactly what we predicted they will do...first deny....then when too much evidence is known that they can't just simply say fake news anymore -- they then move the goal posts and say "Well even if he did it, it doesn't matter...#MAGA"

There is no similar level of sycophancy on "my side" -- because "my side" doesn't care who it is..if there is evidence they committed crimes, they should be prosecuted (WITH WITNESSES INVOLVED) --- if you folks continue this level of partisan sycophancy -- then stop complaining about the system...that is the type of shit that fuels the system and allows it to perpetuate itself...

Hey stupid racist it is your damn side that are looking like fools and I also wrote Trump and notice you ignored that as usual you lying racist homophobic bigot!

I have requested multiple times for you to link your opinion to my actual words to support your opinion and you do not and why?

Simple, you love to lie like Trump!

Why do you hate Trump?

He left your plantation and stop writing the checks for your political party!

Bolton is making your side look foolish and why?

Simple, Didn't Nadler and Company state they had more than enough evidence to prove their case, so why do they need Bolton now?

Wasn't that case strong enough?

So yes Bolton is making your side look foolish but of course your lying ass will deny this and claim no it not true!

So like a lying piece of trash you are you will deny what Schiff said about the upcoming election, deny the fact you can not have Obstruction of Congress without exhausting the courts, and you will just claim anyone that disagree with your sorry pathetic ass must be a Trumpster!

So get busy BOY because you have yet to prove I voted for Bush ot Trump and all you have done is made up lies, deny reality and make homophobic comments like the racist piece of trash you are!

It must really bother you to know Trump will win a second term, never be convicted and because of those like you!

 

[BULLDOG]

You wish. Unless the Trump party finds a bucket full of integrity, they will still acquit him, but there is still plenty of reason to question witnesses.

the dems have called 17 witnesses how many more do yall want 18 20 100 the point is you have no concrete evidence all you have is hearsay and opinions [funny how the whistle blower rules were changed to allow hearsay before the whistle blower spouted his bull ]. and even if the POTUS entertained the idea of delaying money to Ukraine until possible corruption was looked into thats within his authority ! if you thin k 10s of millions of Americans that voted for Trump would accept a removal on these thin bull crap grounds you are mistaken .. the house builds the case and then when they are done they deliver the case to the senate [remember the solemn procession by the crooks with the stacks of lies being wheeled over to the senate] ..... they had their chance to build a case ... if they thought the case was weak [which it most definitely is ] they should have continued building on it in the house impeachment hearing instead of sitting on it for nearly a month before sending it to the senate ... now its time for the senate to rule on the case they have built ! and any republican that votes to extend this crap over hearsay and rumors may be voted out and replaced by another republican in their primary ...and they know it !

The house investigated to see if there was enough evidence to impeach. There have been no witnesses in the trial.

Which is appropriate since no witness testimony will change the outcome, acquittal.

If you actually believe that, then why all the whining?

Anyone who can do arithmetic believes that. It is time for Congress to end this farce and get back to work, and it is time for the Democrats to apologize to the American people for putting the country through all of this.

That's the rub. Trump party members don't care about the facts of the case. They only care about if they have enough votes to protect him from facing the consequences of his actions. The majority in the Senate are now participating in Trump's crimes to protect him.

 

[The Original Tree]

FACTS HERE!!!

Sure we want Biden to testify, but he already said he would not honor any subpoenas and neither will Hunter.

All Roads Lead To Ukraine

Don't forget one of the first things Trump did when he got in to office was to do audits sending all these bureaucrats in to a panicked state.

How did Hillary Clinton ‘lose’ $6 billion at the State Department?

One has to wonder why The Obama Administration, Clinton Campaign, Obama State Department, and Podesta Group were throwing so much money in to The Ukraine Elections to Oppose an Anti-Corruption Government that was trying to get elected there.

Obama did his dirty work through The Podesta Group, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, Joe Biden, and The US Embassy In Ukraine, and funneled money in to a Ukraine NGO owned by Soros to oppose The Anti Corruption Candidates in Ukraine. Manfort and Gates were heavily used by The Obama Administration and Podesta Group for operations in Ukraine.

Then after that election when The Anti-Corruption Government was Elected, The Ukrainian Politicians Obama was supporting all fled to Russia.

Then Obama Seals his records on Ukraine citing Executive Privilege!

Then Obama had The Clinton Campaign be granted Full Blanket Immunity!

Then Obama had The Podesta Group be granted Full Blanket Immunity!

A Whistle Blower rats on Clinton about her secret Server which Obama denies knowledge of despite being caught in a lie when it was revealed he and his staff used aliases to communicate clandestinely with Clinton on that server so they could avoid FOIA and other types of discovery.

Comey Allows Clinton To Bleach Bit Her Server of 33,000 Emails!

The IT tech who Bleach Bitted Clinton's Server in violation of 2 Federal Court Orders is given immunity in exchange for testimony. He is asked 256 questions about his actions and about what he knows and despite having full immunity, pleads the 5th 256 Times!

Guccifer who says he and other countries did hack Clinton's Server despite The Obama Administration saying that never happened. Guccifer also says, he knows the original DNC Server was shipped to The Ukraine to hide it, and then an "edited copy" of the hard drive was given to Crowdstrike.

No Subpoena is ever issued on The DNC Server which The DNC Claimed was hacked and exposed Podesta's Emails. Only Crowdstrike looks at a copy of the VHD from the DNC Server and claims Russia hacked it. Weeks later, they had to retract nearly all of their statements as IT Techs all over the blogosphere called them out on all of their logical fallacies, errors, and technical nonsense. Lies in laymen terms.

Guccifer is arrested, extradited to The US and is locked up and is never heard from again.

Hillary Clinton Destroys 17 Electronic Devices!
Pakistani Hackers Hired by Clinton, Destroy dozens of hard drives as they flee The US!

Seth Rich gets murdered after uploading Podesta Emails to Assange.
The Remaining Hacker goes with Hillary Clinton to work on her campaign, despite being caught prying in to Congressional Files!

Comey sweeps all Clinton's Crimes Under the Rug.

The Obama Administration launches Russian Collusion COUP Hoax based on Russian Dirty Dossier he paid for that we now find out actually originated from The Ukraine and US Embassy. This Russian or Ukrainian Propaganda is later used falsely in FISA to get Wiretap Warrants on The Trump Campaign.

Gates and Manafort who worked for Obama and knew what was going on in The Ukraine, have their homes raided, are placed in solitary confinement, convicted on bogus charges and are never heard from again.

Julian Assange who says he got the Podesta Emails from Seth Rich is eventually Extradited, Locked Up and has never been hear from again!

Trump makes a phone call to congratulate The Ukraine President who ran on a Anti-Corruption Ukraine platform and then asks him to keep him informed about rumors of alleged corruption in Ukraine committed by The Obama Administration.

A Few weeks Later, Vindman a Ukrainian and his Brother who works for Adam Schiff, helps Adam Schiff and Eric Ciaramella write a Bogus Whistle Blower Report on a call to Ukraine!

Suddenly old footage of Joe Biden threatening The Ukraine to fire The Prosecutor Resurface as some people realize there is something fishy going on with this whole never ending attempt to remove President Trump.

Joe Biden:
"Fire The Prosecutor Investigating Hunter, or you aren't getting The Millions"!

President Trump shocks Schiff and releases The Transcript! contradicting The Whistle Blower Report

Schiff gets up in front of America and reads a completely Sham and Fictitious Manufactured Version of that phone call Transcript!

Adam Schiff who originally said everyone would get to interview The Whistle Blower shuts that down, says No, and then interrupts anyone who even dares to get close to revealing who The Whistle Blower is in testimony.

Schiff then has The IG Interview transcript which is critical of Schiff and The Whistleblower and seems to indicate Schiff lied about contact with The Whistleblower classified as "Intelligence" and refuses to allow The Trump Defense team to see that transcript. No one has seen it yet, and Schiff is refusing to turn it over.
The Pelosi Lead House Rushes to start an impeachment about The Ukraine phone call despite The Ukraine President telling The House, that their accusations are false. Adam Schiff refuses to release memos of his conversations with Vindman and The Whistle Blower, or The IGs testimony.

Hunter Biden refuses to comply with a Judges Order to turn over his Financial Records documenting his earnings at Burisma in his Child Support Case.

Joe Biden states he will refuse to comply with a Senate Subpoena to answer any questions about anything he knows about Ukraine or Burisma.

And here we are today.

 

[BULLDOG]

Sure we do

All Roads Lead To Ukraine

Don't forget one of the first things Trump did when he got in to office was to do audits sending all these bureaucrats in to a panicked state.

How did Hillary Clinton ‘lose’ $6 billion at the State Department?

One has to wonder why The Obama Administration, Clinton Campaign, Obama State Department, and Podesta Group were throwing so much money in to The Ukraine Elections to Oppose an Anti-Corruption Government that was trying to get elected there.

Obama did his dirty work through The Podesta Group, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, Joe Biden, and The US Embassy In Ukraine, and funneled money in to a Ukraine NGO owned by Soros to oppose The Anti Corruption Candidates in Ukraine. Manfort and Gates were heavily used by The Obama Administration and Podesta Group for operations in Ukraine.

Then after that election when The Anti-Corruption Government was Elected, The Ukrainian Politicians Obama was supporting all fled to Russia.

Then Obama Seals his records on Ukraine citing Executive Privilege!

Then Obama had The Clinton Campaign be granted Full Blanket Immunity!

Then Obama had The Podesta Group be granted Full Blanket Immunity!

A Whistle Blower rats on Clinton about her secret Server which Obama denies knowledge of despite being caught in a lie when it was revealed he and his staff used aliases to communicate clandestinely with Clinton on that server so they could avoid FOIA and other types of discovery.

Comey Allows Clinton To Bleach Bit Her Server of 33,000 Emails!

The IT tech who Bleach Bitted Clinton's Server in violation of 2 Federal Court Orders is given immunity in exchange for testimony. He is asked 256 questions about his actions and about what he knows and despite having full immunity, pleads the 5th 256 Times!

Guccifer who says he and other countries did hack Clinton's Server despite The Obama Administration saying that never happened. Guccifer also says, he knows the original DNC Server was shipped to The Ukraine to hide it, and then an "edited copy" of the hard drive was given to Crowdstrike.

No Subpoena is ever issued on The DNC Server which The DNC Claimed was hacked and exposed Podesta's Emails. Only Crowdstrike looks at a copy of the VHD from the DNC Server and claims Russia hacked it. Weeks later, they had to retract nearly all of their statements as IT Techs all over the blogosphere called them out on all of their logical fallacies, errors, and technical nonsense. Lies in laymen terms.

Guccifer is arrested, extradited to The US and is locked up and is never heard from again.

Hillary Clinton Destroys 17 Electronic Devices!
Pakistani Hackers Hired by Clinton, Destroy dozens of hard drives as they flee The US!

Seth Rich gets murdered after uploading Podesta Emails to Assange.
The Remaining Hacker goes with Hillary Clinton to work on her campaign, despite being caught prying in to Congressional Files!

Comey sweeps all Clinton's Crimes Under the Rug.

The Obama Administration launches Russian Collusion COUP Hoax based on Russian Dirty Dossier he paid for that we now find out actually originated from The Ukraine and US Embassy. This Russian or Ukrainian Propaganda is later used falsely in FISA to get Wiretap Warrants on The Trump Campaign.

Gates and Manafort who worked for Obama and knew what was going on in The Ukraine, have their homes raided, are placed in solitary confinement, convicted on bogus charges and are never heard from again.

Julian Assange who says he got the Podesta Emails from Seth Rich is eventually Extradited, Locked Up and has never been hear from again!

Trump makes a phone call to congratulate The Ukraine President who ran on a Anti-Corruption Ukraine platform and then asks him to keep him informed about rumors of alleged corruption in Ukraine committed by The Obama Administration.

A Few weeks Later, Vindman a Ukrainian and his Brother who works for Adam Schiff, helps Adam Schiff and Eric Ciaramella write a Bogus Whistle Blower Report on a call to Ukraine!

Suddenly old footage of Joe Biden threatening The Ukraine to fire The Prosecutor Resurface as some people realize there is something fishy going on with this whole never ending attempt to remove President Trump.

Joe Biden:
"Fire The Prosecutor Investigating Hunter, or you aren't getting The Millions"!

President Trump shocks Schiff and releases The Transcript! contradicting The Whistle Blower Report

Schiff gets up in front of America and reads a completely Sham and Fictitious Manufactured Version of that phone call Transcript!

Adam Schiff who originally said everyone would get to interview The Whistle Blower shuts that down, says No, and then interrupts anyone who even dares to get close to revealing who The Whistle Blower is in testimony.

Schiff then has The IG Interview transcript which is critical of Schiff and The Whistleblower and seems to indicate Schiff lied about contact with The Whistleblower classified as "Intelligence" and refuses to allow The Trump Defense team to see that transcript. No one has seen it yet, and Schiff is refusing to turn it over.
The Pelosi Lead House Rushes to start an impeachment about The Ukraine phone call despite The Ukraine President telling The House, that their accusations are false. Adam Schiff refuses to release memos of his conversations with Vindman and The Whistle Blower, or The IGs testimony.

Hunter Biden refuses to comply with a Judges Order to turn over his Financial Records documenting his earnings at Burisma in his Child Support Case.

Joe Biden states he will refuse to comply with a Senate Subpoena to answer any questions about anything he knows about Ukraine or Burisma.

And here we are today.

I'm always impressed with the cut and paste skills of you conspiracy theory nuts.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Um, I thought the House was supposed to present evidence from witnesses

And they have presented evidence from their investigation. This is now the trial. Trials have witnesses.

"I overheard Trump yelling coming through a cellphone in a crowded restaurant" is the opposite of evidence

Witnessing something has evidentiary value. It is direct evidence.

Yet what Bolton is alleged to have heard from Trump will not change the outcome of the trial, so it is of no legitimate value.

It is of legitimate value to sane American citizens and it's going to bitch slap trump in the fall campaign.

and if it doesnt will we see you here saying....Ooops!...