Zionism is Racism

[surada]

Clearly, Israel is a liberal democracy since all citizens of Israel have equal rights under the law.

A majority of the Jewish settlers have accepted a compensation package from the government in return for leaving Gaza.

An average family can expect to receive the equivalent of $150,000 to $400,000 in compensation, depending on house size, the number of children and length of residence in the occupied territories. On top of that, there are removal expenses, two years” free rent and redundancy compensation. Many of the settlers are already beneficiaries of government subsidies for settling the land.

As soon as they announced the pullout in 2004 5,000 Israelis moved to Gaza. They wanted the buy out money.

The reason for the pullout was Israeli parents of IDF soldiers. It was stupid to have 20,000 soldiers guarding 5000 Jews and they complained.

 

[toomuchtime_]

That's BS. They destroyed over 300 Arab villages.. in 1967 they destroyed over 70 Druze villages in the Golan heights.

They really are no better than Nazis.

All of Israel's war, with the possible exception of the 1956 Sinai campaign were defensive wars in which Israel was fighting against Arab attempts to destroy Israel. All wars produce civilian casualties and displaced persons. If the Arabs loved their children more than they hated Jews, they wouldn't have started these wars.

 

[surada]

This is the revocation of that resolution
United Nations General Assembly Resolution 46/86, adopted on 16 December 1991

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379 - Wikipedia

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Is "Israeli" a Nationality?

Should the State of Israel recognize

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Should the State of Israel recognize "Israeli" as a nationality rather than defining citizens as Jewish, Arab, and Druze? IDI Vice President Prof. Yedidia Stern and Jay Ruderman assert that it is imperative for the State of Israel to continue distinguishing between citizenship and nationality.

 

[surada]

All of Israel's war, with the possible exception of the 1956 Sinai campaign were defensive wars in which Israel was fighting against Arab attempts to destroy Israel. All wars produce civilian casualties and displaced persons. If the Arabs loved their children more than they hated Jews, they wouldn't have started these wars.

Israel caused the Suez Crisis. Eisenhower was so furious over the Lavon Affair bombings in Cairo in 1954 that he withdrew financing for the Aswan dam in Egypt. Then he found out he'd been tricked by an Israeli false flag.

So you all killed Arab children if their parents resisted the theft of land and water and human rights.

 

[surada]

Everything you just said is false.
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There are three other texts (Rom. 11:26; Matt. 21:5; John 12:15) that use Zion as a name for Jerusalem. First the Deliverer, Christ, is said to come back from Zion. In this text Paul also quotes from the Old Testament. (See Isa. 59:20.) The texts in Matthew and John refer to Christ's entry into Jerusalem. In the Old Testament text that Matthew and John quote (Zech. 9:9), we have the Hebrew parallelism: "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee." The expression "daughter of Zion," which is repeated as "daughter of Jerusalem," refers evidently to the nation of Israel.

They've been a tiny minority in Palestine since the first century.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

On Thursday May 22nd 2023, which was four months before October 7th, an article was published in The Times of Israel.

The articles was dripping with Zionist xenophobia and openly called for Palestine to be obliterated. The article was later removed but it was automatically copied by various web history sniffer sites, here's the link to one of these copies and below are a few excerpts:

In order to right a wrong, in order to make peace and move forward, Palestine must be obliterated. It is an afront to society, morality, humanity. It represents lies and antisemitism, oppression and terror. Nothing more.

No one cares about the Palestinians.

Conquer remaining biblical lands in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. Do this diplomatically or militarily. Do not be weak with your enemies. Expel anyone who does not accept Hashem’s Sovereignty, which recognition of Jewish sovereignty is the litmus test. Deadly resistance will be met accordingly. Any peace loving Arab will be offered residency rights.

Well, to the Palestinians, if you want these rights, you have to give up your nationhood. Because it is a lie. An affront to morality, Truth, and Justice. And a dark stain on the fabric of human history. And I will not apologize for not dying.

The author is named as Jeffrey Camras, here's his public facebook page. Many if not most Zionists would agree with Camras' call to arms but they won't ever say that publicly, I wonder if any here will even condemn his remarks, here's a chance for them to show they are not the racist bigots everyone says they are.

 

[toomuchtime_]

A majority of the Jewish settlers have accepted a compensation package from the government in return for leaving Gaza.

An average family can expect to receive the equivalent of $150,000 to $400,000 in compensation, depending on house size, the number of children and length of residence in the occupied territories. On top of that, there are removal expenses, two years” free rent and redundancy compensation. Many of the settlers are already beneficiaries of government subsidies for settling the land.

As soon as they announced the pullout in 2004 5,000 Israelis moved to Gaza. They wanted the guy out money.

The reason for the pullout was Israeli parents of IDF soldiers. It was stupid to have 20,000 soldiers guarding 5000 Jews and they complained.

Your response does not address my post, since none of what you posted concerns Israel being a liberal democracy, but you do point out an important fact, that it is futile to try to make peace with the so called Palestinians. The disengagement was part of a plan by Sharon, with support of President Bush, to get peace talks going again after the second intifada by withdrawing from Gaza and closing some outlying West Bank settlements, and transporting some 13,000 PA troops, armed and trained in Jordan by a US general, to Gaza to keep the peace there so the peace talks would seem feasible. Clearly It failed as all attempts to live in peace with the Palestinians have failed since 1920.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Your response does not address my post, since none of what you posted concerns Israel being a liberal democracy, but you do point out an important fact, that it is futile to try to make peace with the so called Palestinians. The disengagement was part of a plan by Sharon, with support of President Bush, to get peace talks going again after the second intifada by withdrawing from Gaza and closing some outlying West Bank settlements, and transporting some 13,000 PA troops, armed and trained in Jordan by a US general, to Gaza to keep the peace there so the peace talks would seem feasible. Clearly It failed as all attempts to live in peace with the Palestinians have failed since 1920.

 

[Stryder50]

Recalling its resolution 1904 (XVIII) of 20 November 1963, proclaiming the United Nations Declaration on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, and in particular its affirmation that "any doctrine of racial differentiation or superiority is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous" and its expression of alarm at "the manifestations of racial discrimination still in evidence in some areas in the world, some of which are imposed by certain Governments by means of legislative, administrative or other measures",

Recalling also that, in its resolution 3151 G (XXVIII) of 14 December 1973, the General Assembly condemned, inter alia, the unholy alliance between South African racism and zionism,

Taking note of the Declaration of Mexico on the Equality of Women and Their Contribution to Development and Peace, 1/ proclaimed by the World Conference of the International Women's Year, held at Mexico City from 19 June to 2 July 1975, which promulgated the principle that "international co-operation and peace require the achievement of national liberation and independence, the elimination of colonialism and neo-colonialism, foreign occupation, zionism, apartheid and racial discrimination in all its forms, as well as the recognition of the dignity of peoples and their right to self-determination",

Taking note also of resolution 77 (XII) adopted by the Assembly of Heads of State and Government of the Organization of African Unity at its twelfth ordinary session,2/ hold at Kampala from 28 July to 1 August 1975, which considered "that the racist regime in occupied Palestine and the racist regimes in Zimbabwe and South Africa have a common imperialist origin, forming a whole and having the same racist structure and being organically linked in their policy aimed at repression of the dignity and integrity of the human being",

Taking note also of the Political Declaration and Strategy to Strengthen International Peace and Security and to Intensify Solidarity and Mutual Assistance among Non-Aligned Countries,3/ adopted at the Conference of Ministers for Foreign Affairs of Non-Aligned Countries held at Lima from 25 to 30 August 1975, which most severely condemned zionism as a threat to world peace and security and called upon all countries to oppose this racist and imperialist ideology,

Determines that zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
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This is an official UN resolution 3379 ... Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination

Aside from misuse of the term "racism/racist";
Once again showing the bias and racism within the latter day United Nations.
Currently the most racist of religions, and has been since it's invention about 1400 years ago is Islam!
If there is any religion that this planet needs to be purged of it is Islam.
A smart Muslim with leave Islam, the religion of Satan, and embrace almost any other religion!

 

[gipper]

That's absolutely correct. Idiots (and I used that term broadly) think that things are described by their text book definition. Gosh, that's OK but they are ignoring the situation "as it is". They are squawking on about what Zionism was meant to be ..... not what it is. Idiots, fool, brainless twits all of them. Palestinians (as is pointed out in the above quote) will tell you the truth. Isn’t that what we honest people crave ….. the truth?

 

[gipper]

These were displaced persons and nearly all wars produce displaced persons; some were forced to leave, and some chose to leave, but when UN 194 passed Israel accepted it and invited all the Arabs who had left and were now willing to live in peace in Israel to return, but that meant recognizing the jurisdiction of the new state of Israel, and none applied to return under those conditions.

So even after the Arabs' failed attempt to eradicate the Jews, the new state of Israel extended its hand in friendship to those Arabs but their hatred of Jews was so strong they preferred to lose everything they had rather than live in peace with Jews.

As Abba Eban once said, "The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."

And as Golda Meir said when asked when there would be peace, "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us."

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Wouldn’t you agree?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Aside from misuse of the term "racism/racist";

Would you prefer "racial supremacist" then?

Once again showing the bias and racism within the latter day United Nations.

Here we go again, Zionist plays the victim card, how predictable, every country in the world hates Jews (and we get no thanks for rescuing them).

Currently the most racist of religions, and has been since it's invention about 1400 years ago is Islam!

Islam has its faults but racism is not one of them. Zionism is racist because it emphasizes "Jewish", Islam has no racial component other than an emphasis on the Arabic language.

If there is any religion that this planet needs to be purged of it is Islam.

Arguable, I suspect more Muslims have died from Christian geopolitical ambitions than Christians have from Muslims.

A smart Muslim with leave Islam, the religion of Satan, and embrace almost any other religion!

I'd pick one that doesn't advocate genital mutilation of baby boys myself.

 

[rosends]

Many if not most Zionists would agree with Camras' call to arms but they won't ever say that publicly,

So you know what Zionists are thinking. Brilliant.

 

[gipper]

Zionism is not only racist, it’s also Facsist and murderous. Einstein and other prominent Jews knew it long ago.

On 4 December 1948, a letter to the New York Times by Albert Einstein and other anti-Zionist Jews, was published calling Menachem Begin — Netanyahu’s hero — calling him the leader of a “Nazi and Fascist” Party, and warned that “Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin’s behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.” They wrote that “A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base.” The massacre of all residents was described. The letter then continued: “The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a ‘Leader State’ is the goal.” It didn’t mention Yitzak Shamir, the founder of Netanyahu’s Likud Party, who had joined Begin’s Freedom Party in August 1948, and who, like Begin, led massacres and then became elected as Israel’s Prime Minister. This is the nation to which Harry Truman gave birth.
How can RFK Jr. justify this outrageous statement of his?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So you know what Zionists are thinking. Brilliant.

See, no denouncement from you, this is the full sentence you snipped:

Many if not most Zionists would agree with Camras' call to arms but they won't ever say that publicly, I wonder if any here will even condemn his remarks, here's a chance for them to show they are not the racist bigots everyone says they are.

 

[rosends]

See, no denouncement from you.

I formally denounce the opinion expressed on that article.

Questions, or are you just going to read my mind and tell me what I think?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I formally denounce the opinion expressed on that article.

Questions, or are you just going to read my mind and tell me what I think?

Saying that many Zionists would agree with something doesn't require mind reading.