1,748 Days since the Declaration Of "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"

[maineman]

The more I think about this argument, the dumber it seems to me. If I say that Iran is connected to Hezbollah, I am implying that Iran is connected to their terrorist activities. If I say that Hezbollah is based in Syria, I am implying that Syria supports their terrorist activities. It is silly to say that Iran and Syria support a terrorist organization, but suggest that this implies no support for terrorism. Support of a terrorist organization in its goals implies support for the specific terrorist actions, whether one is briefed on them or not.

bingo

 

[actsnoblemartin]

Well for what its worth, im sorry about your dad. my sincere condolences

no...just curious.

do you have any more insults to direct at my parents? my mom is 84 and in a wheelchair and my dad died in March, but feel free to dump on either one of them.

 

[Alpha1]

The more I think about this argument, the dumber it seems to me. If I say that Iran is connected to Hezbollah, I am implying that Iran is connected to their terrorist activities. If I say that Hezbollah is based in Syria, I am implying that Syria supports their terrorist activities. It is silly to say that Iran and Syria support a terrorist organization, but suggest that this implies no support for terrorism. Support of a terrorist organization in its goals implies support for the specific terrorist actions, whether one is briefed on them or not.

If I say that Hezbollah is based in Syria, I am implying that Syria supports their terrorist activities.

Where did you learn logic?

If I say that organized crime is based in the US, am I implying that the US supports organized crime activities???

It is silly to say that Iran and Syria support a terrorist organization, but suggest that this implies no support for terrorism.

That doesn't even make sense....

If I say that Iran is connected to Hezbollah, I am implying that Iran is connected to their terrorist activities.

If I say Bernie Sanders (a self described Socalist) is connected to the Democrats....does that mean that Democrats are Socialists...?

 

[DeadCanDance]

These are statements linking Saddam and AQ, not Saddam and 9/11.

I get the sense that you voted for Bush twice, and are one of the last remaining dead enders - the 24% - who still think he's doing a good job.

This isn't rocket science. Follow closely.

Bu$hCo. said that Iraq was an ally of al qaeda (false by the way), that Iraq was the "geographic base" of al qaeda operations, and that the lead 9/11 hijacker met with Iraqi Intelligence agents before the attack on 9/11


Any reasonable person can conclude what the inference here is.

But, perhaps not the 24% dead enders. Its a simple matter of how much in love with Bush one is.

 

[CorpMediaSux]

If I say that Hezbollah is based in Syria, I am implying that Syria supports their terrorist activities.

Where did you learn logic?

Um, from the Bush admin who invaded Afghanistan because Osama Bin Laden was based there....

 

[Dr Grump]

If it said any more than it does, it wouldn't be an implication at all. It would be a direct statement.

I think the implication in this statement is clear. I don't know how you can't see it.

He can. He is being obtuse.

This is how M14 debates:
In 1933 a former corporal in the German Army had a big say in that country's politics. He spent some time in prison. While there he wrote a manifesto of sorts. He wore a funny moustache and was born in Austria. He did not like Jewish people, blacks or homosexuals.

Me:
You must be talking about Hitler.

M14:
Where did I mention Hitler?

That is the kinda debating tactics you are dealing with here. You have to say exactly what you mean. You are not allowed to read anything into what is being said, which is particularly hard when discussing politics. How many politicians actually say what they mean?

He is also of the "I never back down, I am always right" persuasion. He is slowly becoming tiresome with his Holier Than Thou approach. It would help if he even offered a smidgen of an opinion (even if it is "I don't know") as to why 70% of the population at one stage or another thought Iraq was somehow related to 9-11.

 

[M14 Shooter]

That is the kinda debating tactics you are dealing with here. You have to say exactly what you mean. You are not allowed to read anything into what is being said, which is particularly hard when discussing politics. How many politicians actually say what they mean?

Apparently, you dont understand the difference between implication and inference, how implication is a deliberate act, and therefore to show that there is implication, you must show intent. Your ignorance is your problem.

You and your ilk want to run around making whatever accusations you want and not have to back them up -- and then you get all upset and self-righteous when someone won't let you get away with it.

Cry me a river.

He is also of the "I never back down, I am always right" persuasion.

As the desert said to the grain of sand...

He is slowly becoming tiresome with his Holier Than Thou approach.

See above.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I thought that at first too, but now I don't think so. Definitely not as to statements and probably not as to people.

If to imply is to suggest, why need there be a deliberate intent? Surely, I can unintentionally imply something.

Yes. But that's not the context here.
Unless you're willing to say that the administration unintentionally implied the Iraq/911 link.

 

[M14 Shooter]

no...just curious.
do you have any more insults to direct at my parents? my mom is 84 and in a wheelchair and my dad died in March, but feel free to dump on either one of them.

Awwww... did the fucking moron take offense at the stab at his momma?

Is he gonna cry now? Awwww.....

Since you seem perfectly happy to lay out whatever insults you like, I'll feel perfectly free to to the same, Skippy.

If you want to be a man and apologize, I'll stop.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The more I think about this argument, the dumber it seems to me. If I say that Iran is connected to Hezbollah, I am implying that Iran is connected to their terrorist activities. If I say that Hezbollah is based in Syria, I am implying that Syria supports their terrorist activities.

No. Thats your inference from those statements, as the statements in and of themselves create no necessary relationship.

 

[maineman]

Awwww... did the fucking moron take offense at the stab at his momma?

Is he gonna cry now? Awwww.....

Since you seem perfectly happy to lay out whatever insults you like, I'll feel perfectly free to to the same, Skippy.

If you want to be a man and apologize, I'll stop.

I am unaware of anything I have ever written to you that would require an apology...so hey...keep it up. I think folks who feel compelled to insult other people's mothers earn the tacit reputation they deserve.

and your adolescent schoolyard taunts help to solidity it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I am unaware of anything I have ever written to you that would require an apology...so hey...keep it up.

Really?

So this:

maineman
it's my opinion, you fucking moron.
OPINION. Got a different one? great. I explained why I held my OPINION.... if you disagree.... great.
that's how OPINIONS work.
idiot.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=623273&postcount=347

Doesnt require an apology?

You remember this post -- its the one where you attacked me from out of the blue after I accepted your apology from the LAST round of insults you threw at me.

I see yo' momma not only taught you to be a partisan bigot, but didn't teach you any manners, either.

Keep crying, Skippy.

 

[maineman]

Really?

So this:


http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=623273&postcount=347

Doesnt require an apology?

You remember this post -- its the one where you attacked me from out of the blue after I accepted your apology from the LAST round of insults you threw at me.

I see yo' momma not only taught you to be a partisan bigot, but didn't teach you any manners, either.

Keep crying, Skippy.

you want an apology for being called a moron? and you think that insulting someone's mother is proportional retaliation for being called a moron?

Even though you are, in fact, a moron, I do sincerely apologize for rubbing it in your face. I will try really hard not to refer to you as the moron that you are, going forward.

but in any case... don't stop.... say whatever the hell you want to about my mother. She has never once surfed the net and never will so she is a perfect target for your abuse. It really is a great style choice for you. I am sure you are winning friends and influencing people all over cyberspace with your kinder and gentler debating approach!

 

[M14 Shooter]

you want an apology for being called a moron? and you think that insulting someone's mother is proportional retaliation for being called a moron?

Even though you are, in fact, a moron, I do sincerely apologize for rubbing it in your face. I will try really hard not to refer to you as the moron that you are, going forward.

You're the one whining about childish behavior like a spoiled little priss while perpetuating the same, Skippy, not me.

Tell me -- how proud is yo' momma for having raised such a fucking moron?

 

[maineman]

You're the one whining about childish behavior like a spoiled little priss while perpetuating the same, Skippy, not me.

Tell me -- how proud is yo' momma for having raised such a fucking moron?

my mom is quite proud of me.

And again...I am certainly not whining. I urge you to continue to make my mother the butt of your insults. Like I said, I am certain that your approach is winning friends and influencing people with each passing minute!

 

[M14 Shooter]

my mom is quite proud of me.

I have NO doubt, as your idiot ass is likely the smartest your family has ever produced.

And again...I am certainly not whining

This is you whining about me being disrespectful of you:

Originally Posted by maineman
we're having a discussion here. I have given you my opinion. I have asked for yours. I have tried not to be disrespectful of you, yet you continue to be disrespectful of me. Why not make this less of a school yard taunting session and more of a polite discussion? I would enjoy that.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621895&postcount=217

These are your "respectful" posts preceeding this:

creating false impressions IS lying.
go check out a fucking dictionary sometime.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621525&postcount=90

attempting to have a discussion with someone whose command of the english language was apparently arrested at the "My Weekly Reader" level is really quite tedious

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621529&postcount=94

am I getting through to you or do I need to dumb it down to the DICK and JANE level?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621534&postcount=98

for you to suggest that I am mouthing off with partisan rhetoric while you continue to excuse the misleading done by this administration is pretty funny, young fella.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621540&postcount=102

And after all that, I respond with:

Yes, Skippy, that exactly the sort of thing you should be providing.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621543&postcount=105

Your retort:

and don't call me skippy. asshole. I was getting my expert rifleman medal with an M1 when you were still in the fucking womb.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621545&postcount=106

And THEN you have the audacity to post in my reputation feedback:

bad form.... you should learn to show a
little more respect for your elders, sonny.
Let's not make a habit of this.

As I said:

Skippy can dish it out but he can't take it.

What a priss.

If yo' momma had the capacity to do so, she'd be embarassed -- that she is proud of you speaks far more that needs to be said.

 

[Shogun]

if only this much energy were put into finding amicable solutions instead...

 

[maineman]

I have NO doubt, as your idiot ass is likely the smartest your family has ever produced.




This is you whining about me being disrespectful of you:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621895&postcount=217

These are your "respectful" posts preceeding this:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621525&postcount=90


http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621529&postcount=94


http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621534&postcount=98


http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621540&postcount=102

And after all that, I respond with:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621543&postcount=105

Your retort:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showpost.php?p=621545&postcount=106

And THEN you have the audacity to post in my reputation feedback:


As I said:

Skippy can dish it out but he can't take it.

What a priss.

If yo' momma had the capacity to do so, she'd be embarassed -- that she is proud of you speaks far more that needs to be said.

wow. finding all these quotes.... obsessing a bit, aren't we? LOL

again...keep it up big shooter.... you are winning friends and influencing people. You might try to concentrate on my mother's affirmities that keep her in a wheelchair next, that would make for some great theater!

 

[M14 Shooter]

wow. finding all these quotes.... obsessing a bit, aren't we? LOL

Exactly the response I thought I'd get.

Cry a little more, Skippy.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

wow. finding all these quotes.... obsessing a bit, aren't we? LOL

again...keep it up big shooter.... you are winning friends and influencing people. You might try to concentrate on my mother's affirmities that keep her in a wheelchair next, that would make for some great theater!

Wait? Aren't you the one that DEMANDS links to things you claim you never said? And if we do not go find them you deny you did say them? He provides the links and your response is not " ohh I am wrong" it is" your obsessed"?