12 Dead in Mass Shooting at So.Cal Bar

[2aguy]

As we say in basketball, you need multiple efforts. In order to stop this gun violence we need to curtail certain things regarding guns. You shouldnt be carrying in a gun in public if you are a male. You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. There is no need other than psychological impulse for any non military person to have one.

A pump action shotgun is an actual War Weapon....currently used by militaries around the world....the lever action rifle was an actual war weapon, as was the revolver...the AR-15 semi automatic rifle was never a War weapon...

You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. You shouldnt be using a pump action shotgun unless you are defending your home.

The pump action shotgun is an actual, current War weapon...... used by our military all over the world......the AR-15 has never been used in a war....

 

[2aguy]

As we say in basketball, you need multiple efforts. In order to stop this gun violence we need to curtail certain things regarding guns. You shouldnt be carrying in a gun in public if you are a male. You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. There is no need other than psychological impulse for any non military person to have one.

A pump action shotgun is an actual War Weapon....currently used by militaries around the world....the lever action rifle was an actual war weapon, as was the revolver...the AR-15 semi automatic rifle was never a War weapon...

You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. You shouldnt be using a pump action shotgun unless you are defending your home.

A 4 + 1 shotgun was used by a killer in Crimea 2 weeks ago to murder 21 college students in a mass public school shooting......more than the 18 at Parkland...

 

[2aguy]

That number may not be accurate, but it is likely because blacks do almost all of the other gun murder in the country.......

Thats pretty much the only thing we lead in if the FBI is to be believed. Whites commit the vast majority of other violent crime. However like I said the Black gun crimes are primarily Black on Black crimes. whereas whites are prone to killing any and everyone.

Wrong....Whites kill Whites, Blacks kill blacks...the real difference...Blacks kill more Whites than Whites kill blacks.....

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

White killer, Black Victims......264

Black killer, White Victims... 576

Your link doesnt reflect what you posted.

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[Asclepias]

As we say in basketball, you need multiple efforts. In order to stop this gun violence we need to curtail certain things regarding guns. You shouldnt be carrying in a gun in public if you are a male. You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. There is no need other than psychological impulse for any non military person to have one.

A pump action shotgun is an actual War Weapon....currently used by militaries around the world....the lever action rifle was an actual war weapon, as was the revolver...the AR-15 semi automatic rifle was never a War weapon...

You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. You shouldnt be using a pump action shotgun unless you are defending your home.

The pump action shotgun is an actual, current War weapon...... used by our military all over the world......the AR-15 has never been used in a war....

Thats why a pump action shotgun should never be carried in public. The AR-15 looks just like the M16A! rifle so that should be banned.

 

[Asclepias]

Thats pretty much the only thing we lead in if the FBI is to be believed. Whites commit the vast majority of other violent crime. However like I said the Black gun crimes are primarily Black on Black crimes. whereas whites are prone to killing any and everyone.

Wrong....Whites kill Whites, Blacks kill blacks...the real difference...Blacks kill more Whites than Whites kill blacks.....

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

White killer, Black Victims......264

Black killer, White Victims... 576

Your link doesnt reflect what you posted.

Yes...it does....read it carfully...

No it doesnt. Its obviously a fake site.

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Still not working but its irrelevant anyway. We are talking about mass shootings.

 

[2aguy]

As we say in basketball, you need multiple efforts. In order to stop this gun violence we need to curtail certain things regarding guns. You shouldnt be carrying in a gun in public if you are a male. You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. There is no need other than psychological impulse for any non military person to have one.

A pump action shotgun is an actual War Weapon....currently used by militaries around the world....the lever action rifle was an actual war weapon, as was the revolver...the AR-15 semi automatic rifle was never a War weapon...

You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. You shouldnt be using a pump action shotgun unless you are defending your home.

The pump action shotgun is an actual, current War weapon...... used by our military all over the world......the AR-15 has never been used in a war....

Thats why a pump action shotgun should never be carried in public. The AR-15 looks just like the M16A! rifle so that should be banned.

That makes no rational sense....... the AR-15 rifle is no different from any other semi automatic rifle..... and it is not a war weapon, never been used in war....

A lever action rifle was an actual weapon of war....the Bolt action rifle is a current weapon of war used by our military all over the world...

 

[2aguy]

Wrong....Whites kill Whites, Blacks kill blacks...the real difference...Blacks kill more Whites than Whites kill blacks.....

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

White killer, Black Victims......264

Black killer, White Victims... 576

Your link doesnt reflect what you posted.

Yes...it does....read it carfully...

No it doesnt. Its obviously a fake site.

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Still not working but its irrelevant anyway. We are talking about mass shootings.

No...you were lying about mass shootings and their importance...

 

[PoliticalChic]

And mental illness can be proven by the irrational ravings of the mentally ill. And, of course, by the dead bodies left in their wake. Honestly, I would rather err on the side of caution than mop up the aftermath of a shooting like happened in California.

--------------------------------------- i think that rational or irrational are simply OPINIONS until laws are broken Hunarcy

Sorry that you think that way. You, and people who think like you, are the problem. Your ilk EMPTIED the asylums back in the 70's, turning thousands out and creating the homeless problem we have today, where the mentally ill are reduced to screaming at lamp posts instead of getting the help they needed. And, you insist on having the mentally ill live amongst us and shoot us because you seem unwilling to allow them to get the help they need.

Wrong...left wing social activists also pushed to clear out the mental hospitals.... mentally ill people apparently have the Right to be on the street without help..that is what they wanted, not us.

".....left wing social activists also pushed to clear out the mental hospitals."

Let me point out that it was a Democrat initiative.


It was Democrat JFK's plan
Carter continued it.
The plan was a failure....so Reagan turned it over to the states.



1963

President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act to provide federal funding for the construction of community-based preventive care and treatment facilities. Between the Vietnam War and an economic crisis, the program was never adequately funded.

1980

President Jimmy Carter signs the Mental Health Systems Act, which aims to restructure the community mental-health-center program and improve services for people with chronic mental illness.


1981

Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.

TIMELINE: Deinstitutionalization And Its Consequences






Really interesting reason why it was important to Kennedy.

Probably had to do with his experiences with his sister and her commitment.

You are exactly right.


Next question: did you know that Kennedy's father sacrificed JFK's sister out of a fear that she might embarrass the family by becoming pregnant, and end the chances at the presidency.

The 'sacrifice' was via a lobotomy.


1. "... Joe Sr. decided, without consulting or informing his wife, to have a prefrontal lobotomy performed on Rosemary. ... Rosemary’s surgery was performed very soon after the introduction of the technique in this country. Fewer than one hundred such operations had been completed at this time, and the procedure was very much experimental. The operation was recommended for “ ‘hopeless’ patients who had failed to respond to other methods of treatment, people who had little to lose and everything to gain.”
Interesting article on Rosemary Kennedy and her impact on the family -- Kennedy Family Forum

a. "Various reasons for the operation have been given, but it left her permanently incapacitated." Shorter, Edward. The Kennedy Family and the History of Mental Retardation.. pp. 32–33.

b. After the surgery Rosemary was reduced to an infantile mentality that left her incontinent and staring blankly at walls for hours. Her verbal skills were reduced to unintelligible babble. In 1949, Rosemary moved to an institution and was visited on regular occasions by her sister Eunice Kennedy Shriver who became the founder of the Special Olympics." Top 10 Fascinating And Notable Lobotomies - Listverse

2. It was the ambition of Joseph Kennedy, Sr. that caused this beautiful young lady to become a veritable "vegetable." He could not allow the taint of scandal to stand in the way of the presidency.



JFK knew what had been done.

 

[2aguy]

--------------------------------------- i think that rational or irrational are simply OPINIONS until laws are broken Hunarcy

Sorry that you think that way. You, and people who think like you, are the problem. Your ilk EMPTIED the asylums back in the 70's, turning thousands out and creating the homeless problem we have today, where the mentally ill are reduced to screaming at lamp posts instead of getting the help they needed. And, you insist on having the mentally ill live amongst us and shoot us because you seem unwilling to allow them to get the help they need.

Wrong...left wing social activists also pushed to clear out the mental hospitals.... mentally ill people apparently have the Right to be on the street without help..that is what they wanted, not us.

".....left wing social activists also pushed to clear out the mental hospitals."

Let me point out that it was a Democrat initiative.


It was Democrat JFK's plan
Carter continued it.
The plan was a failure....so Reagan turned it over to the states.



1963

President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act to provide federal funding for the construction of community-based preventive care and treatment facilities. Between the Vietnam War and an economic crisis, the program was never adequately funded.

1980

President Jimmy Carter signs the Mental Health Systems Act, which aims to restructure the community mental-health-center program and improve services for people with chronic mental illness.


1981

Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.

TIMELINE: Deinstitutionalization And Its Consequences






Really interesting reason why it was important to Kennedy.

Probably had to do with his experiences with his sister and her commitment.

You are exactly right.


Next question: did you know that Kennedy's father sacrificed JFK's sister out of a fear that she might embarrass the family by becoming pregnant, and end the chances at the presidency.

The 'sacrifice' was via a lobotomy.


1. "... Joe Sr. decided, without consulting or informing his wife, to have a prefrontal lobotomy performed on Rosemary. ... Rosemary’s surgery was performed very soon after the introduction of the technique in this country. Fewer than one hundred such operations had been completed at this time, and the procedure was very much experimental. The operation was recommended for “ ‘hopeless’ patients who had failed to respond to other methods of treatment, people who had little to lose and everything to gain.”
Interesting article on Rosemary Kennedy and her impact on the family -- Kennedy Family Forum

a. "Various reasons for the operation have been given, but it left her permanently incapacitated." Shorter, Edward. The Kennedy Family and the History of Mental Retardation.. pp. 32–33.

b. After the surgery Rosemary was reduced to an infantile mentality that left her incontinent and staring blankly at walls for hours. Her verbal skills were reduced to unintelligible babble. In 1949, Rosemary moved to an institution and was visited on regular occasions by her sister Eunice Kennedy Shriver who became the founder of the Special Olympics." Top 10 Fascinating And Notable Lobotomies - Listverse

2. It was the ambition of Joseph Kennedy, Sr. that caused this beautiful young lady to become a veritable "vegetable." He could not allow the taint of scandal to stand in the way of the presidency.



JFK knew what had been done.

The Kennedy's were monsters....

 

[Asclepias]

As we say in basketball, you need multiple efforts. In order to stop this gun violence we need to curtail certain things regarding guns. You shouldnt be carrying in a gun in public if you are a male. You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. There is no need other than psychological impulse for any non military person to have one.

A pump action shotgun is an actual War Weapon....currently used by militaries around the world....the lever action rifle was an actual war weapon, as was the revolver...the AR-15 semi automatic rifle was never a War weapon...

You shouldnt be using weapons that look but more importantly function like a war weapon. You shouldnt be using a pump action shotgun unless you are defending your home.

The pump action shotgun is an actual, current War weapon...... used by our military all over the world......the AR-15 has never been used in a war....

Thats why a pump action shotgun should never be carried in public. The AR-15 looks just like the M16A! rifle so that should be banned.

That makes no rational sense....... the AR-15 rifle is no different from any other semi automatic rifle..... and it is not a war weapon, never been used in war....

A lever action rifle was an actual weapon of war....the Bolt action rifle is a current weapon of war used by our military all over the world...

The AR-15 looks like the M16. Its definitely different from semi-autos that dont look like one. We know this is true because males with insecurities want that specific model so they can play soldier boy.

 

[Asclepias]

Your link doesnt reflect what you posted.

Yes...it does....read it carfully...

No it doesnt. Its obviously a fake site.

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Still not working but its irrelevant anyway. We are talking about mass shootings.

No...you were lying about mass shootings and their importance...

I thought you claimed it showed Black on white vs white on Black crime? Make up your mind.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Asclepias]

No one that owns a gun will take that challenge.

 

[pismoe]

ITS a nice gun and it pretty much perfectly fills the role described in the second amendment , and thats why you don't like it Ace and others .

 

[MisterBeale]

No one that owns a gun will take that challenge.

Why should they, they probably don't support gun control.


I think it is for folks that support gun control to show how serious they are. Common Asclepias, show us how serious your commitment to the cause is, photograph your support for us. . ..

It isn't about the guns, it is about the people's ability to use them.

 

[MisterBeale]

No one that owns a gun will take that challenge.

Why should they, the probably don't support gun control.


I think it is for folks that support gun control to show how serious they are. Common Asclepias, show us how serious your commitment to the cause is, photograph your support for us. . ..

It isn't about the guns, it is about the people's ability to use them.

 

[Asclepias]

No one that owns a gun will take that challenge.

Why should they, they probably don't support gun control.


I think it is for folks that support gun control to show how serious they are. Common Asclepias, show us how serious your commitment to the cause is, photograph your support for us. . ..

It isn't about the guns, it is about the people's ability to use them.

I support gun control. Control isnt achieved by chopping off the offending part. If it was we would castrate rapists.

 

[Issa]

For you people dying is just a number.

And for you people getting murdered with a gun is worse than getting murdered in a thousand other ways

We don't mass murder people in a thousand other ways, though, do we? We use guns, usually AR's--which makes sense since that is exactly what they were designed for.

You just pulled that out of your butt...... Lawn mowers kill more people every single year than mass shooters do, and a lot more than mass shooters with any kind of rifle....

Falling off ladders kills 300 people every year, more people than are killed with any rifle in any year of mass shootings...

The AR-15 isn't even close to being the most used gun for mass shootings or regular crime....

You are posting things that aren't even close to being true or accurate...why do you do that?

I thought the AR was the weapon of choice for mass shootings. In recent memory, anyway, since maybe San Bernardino? Thank you for correcting me, if I was wrong.

No, it isn't....in fact, hand guns are used more than all rifle types.......

And lawn mowers kill more people than AR-15 rifles in even the worst mass shootings each year....

So what you always trying 4o tell us mass shootings are normal occurrences. Other countries are just bullshitting.

 

[pismoe]

i just hope that everyone is paying attention to these gun controllers because they have nefarious plans for Normal Americas .

 

[pismoe]

And for you people getting murdered with a gun is worse than getting murdered in a thousand other ways

We don't mass murder people in a thousand other ways, though, do we? We use guns, usually AR's--which makes sense since that is exactly what they were designed for.

You just pulled that out of your butt...... Lawn mowers kill more people every single year than mass shooters do, and a lot more than mass shooters with any kind of rifle....

Falling off ladders kills 300 people every year, more people than are killed with any rifle in any year of mass shootings...

The AR-15 isn't even close to being the most used gun for mass shootings or regular crime....

You are posting things that aren't even close to being true or accurate...why do you do that?

I thought the AR was the weapon of choice for mass shootings. In recent memory, anyway, since maybe San Bernardino? Thank you for correcting me, if I was wrong.

No, it isn't....in fact, hand guns are used more than all rifle types.......

And lawn mowers kill more people than AR-15 rifles in even the worst mass shootings each year....

So what you always trying 4o tell us mass shootings are normal occurrences. Other countries are just bullshitting.

-------------------------------------------------- naw , but 40 or a couple hundred death per year in mass shootings a year is acceptable . Its the price that is paid for the ability and Freedom for 320 million Americans to own effective Guns 'isis' . [and these are MY thoughts 'isis' ]