14 y.o. black intrudor shot and killed in Louisiana, white home owner arrested.

[dblack]

Based on what I've read of this case, the shooting was justified. Just because he's been charged doesn't mean he'll be found guilty, but I don't think he should have been charged in the first place. The kid invaded his property in the middle of the night. He has a history of burglary. He got what he had coming to him, plain and simple. New Orleans just became a safer place now that he's off the street.

That's nonsense. I have no idea what the actual facts of this case are, but the right to use force to defend ourselves comes with reasonable restrictions. Trespassing doesn't warrant 'shoot-to-kill'. As others here have noted, if he'd actually tried breaking into the house, there's little dispute the homeowner would have been within his rights to shoot. But if all that happened here was the kid hopped a fence, I think blowing him away is little over the top, don't you?

 

[Avatar4321]

I don't understand why people think someone entering a house to steal should be killed. Since when was the sentence for burglary execution?

It just seems an excuse to blow someone away. If someone plans to enter your house to burlarize it, you feel it is approproprite to kill that person. Whatever the law allows or doesn't allow as far as shooting anyone who enters your home unauthorized, why, as an individual, do you wish to kill the person? Why talk about shooting them through the head or turning their body into Swiss cheese?

For example, why couldn't the guy in the original post have simply fired a warning shot into the sky and warned the kid he was armed? Then lock up his home tight and call the police? Once the supposed burglar knows he has been spotted and that the potential victim is armed, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume he would leg it? Why kill him? And most importantly of all, why do so many posters who say they'd shoot him describe the potential experience of killing an intruder with such pleasure and relish?

If someone breaks into your home they can take your livelihood and ability to provide for yourself, not to mention actually cause home to your family.

That's why Robbers should still be put to death in certain circumstances.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Zimmerman Redux, Merritt Landry | Louisiana Self-defense - Downtrend.com

Hazouri reports that Landry, who has a baby daughter and whose wife is pregnant, believed that the victim was trying to break into his house. “All I know is that Merritt had told his family that he had said: ‘Freeze!’ and it looked like the guy turned at him and had his hand on his hip,” Hazouri reported.

The rear door of Merritt Landry’s home, and the driveway where car was parked, when Landry came upon intruder at 2:00AM.

Landry has been charged with attempted second degree murder. His bond was set to $10,000; he posted bond late Friday afternoon. Landry works for the City of New Orleans as a building inspector. The city says he has been placed on emergency suspension without pay pending the outcome of this case.

This is getting ridiculous. The prosecutor is going after this man only because he is a white man who killed a black man, and had it been a black man who killed that young man no one would have said shit.

Do people realize what this will lead to if it keeps up?

Merritt doesn't need to worry - he'll get off. In Louisiana, its legal to kill children merely for stepping foot on your property.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori

 

[jon_berzerk]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ddfUluCv7A]Merritt Landry Shoots 14-year old Black Teen...Marshall Coulter - YouTube[/ame]

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

All burglary is violent crime.

Burglary would require the kid actually break and enter a house, not get shot in the head outside the house. The only crime the kid committed was criminal trespass.

You must assume the intent of the criminal is to murder and rape your family, otherwise your family will be raped and murdered.

With that attitude you might wind up shooting a 16 year old Japanese exchange student in the chest. This is why I'd feel a lot safer if morons like you didn't have guns. I don't want my son to bleed to death because he knocked on the wrong door by accident on the way to a fucking Halloween party.

 

[JQPublic1]

I would rather you just come out and say ******. I would respect you more, honestly. Veiled shit like what you try makes me sick and it makes you sort of a bitch.

Nah. I will be a little bit more respectful and call him what he truly is................a negro.

Nah, just keep calling them monkeys. Righty.

I wonder if SUNSHINE found calling someone a "monkey " offensive and NEG repped her fellow bigot, McGarret. She is certainly quick to do it when even a hint of racial animus is directed at a white person.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Zimmerman Redux, Merritt Landry | Louisiana Self-defense - Downtrend.com



This is getting ridiculous. The prosecutor is going after this man only because he is a white man who killed a black man, and had it been a Blackhawks man who killed that young man no one would have said shit.

Do people realize what this will lead to if it keeps up?

Merritt doesn't need to worry - he'll get off. In Louisiana, its legal to kill children merely for stepping foot on your property.
Yoshihiro Hattori - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some of the most horrific crimes on earth are committed by teens, sometimes by pre teens!!

Let's kill them all then

 

[Vikrant]

Now let us take air resistance into the account. It is true, on its way down, the projectile reaches what is called terminal velocity due to steadily increasing friction caused by +g. However, the terminal velocity of the projectile is dependent on the density of the projectile and the aerodynamic nature of its shape. High density coupled with good aerodynamics results in high terminal velocity. Bullets are usually made of lead which is a highly dense metal. Bullets fired from high powered rifles are quite aerodynamic and have high density. As a result they have high terminal velocity. It is not uncommon for bullets to fall down with a speed of 300mph if fired straight up. Now imagine a 7.62mm ammo falling on your head with a speed of 300mph. It can and will kill you. It is dangerous to shoot guns in the air.

 

[Avatar4321]

Merritt doesn't need to worry - he'll get off. In Louisiana, its legal to kill children merely for stepping foot on your property.
Yoshihiro Hattori - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some of the most horrific crimes on earth are committed by teens, sometimes by pre teens!!

Let's kill them all then

Yes. we all know about your abortion policy. Let the adults talk.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Now let us take air resistance into the account. It is true, on its way down, the projectile reaches what is called terminal velocity due to steadily increasing friction caused by +g. However, the terminal velocity of the projectile is dependent on the density of the projectile and the aerodynamic nature of its shape. High density coupled with good aerodynamics results in high terminal velocity. Bullets are usually made of lead which is a highly dense metal. Bullets fired from high powered rifles are quite aerodynamic and have high density. As a result they have high terminal velocity. It is not uncommon for bullets to fall down with a speed of 300mph if fired straight up. Now imagine a 7.62mm ammo falling on your head with a speed of 300mph. It can and will kill you. It is dangerous to shoot guns in the air.

Didn't actually read the posts that challenged you, did you? There is actual experimental evidence to prove that bullets fired straight up do not come down aerodynamically, they tumble, thus increasing their wind resistance. The impact has been shown to be exactly the same as dropping them from the height it takes for them to reach terminal velocity.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

That's why my kids never jumped a fence to get onto private property at 2am.
I parented!

Why is it some parents take the death of a child as a cue to brag about their own parenting abilities? Good for you buddy! Why don't you send the victim's mother a letter telling her what an awesome parent you are? Jeez, no one gives a shit you think you're awesome.

I know my kids will not be killed committing any crime, even if it is a pointless crime of trespass to intimidate.

Believing you can predict your kids' behavior can be a serious miscalculation. With that attitude its almost certain that one of them will get into drugs. Don't worry, you'll probably never even realize it.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Now let us take air resistance into the account. It is true, on its way down, the projectile reaches what is called terminal velocity due to steadily increasing friction caused by +g. However, the terminal velocity of the projectile is dependent on the density of the projectile and the aerodynamic nature of its shape. High density coupled with good aerodynamics results in high terminal velocity. Bullets are usually made of lead which is a highly dense metal. Bullets fired from high powered rifles are quite aerodynamic and have high density. As a result they have high terminal velocity. It is not uncommon for bullets to fall down with a speed of 300mph if fired straight up. Now imagine a 7.62mm ammo falling on your head with a speed of 300mph. It can and will kill you. It is dangerous to shoot guns in the air.

falling on your head with a speed of 300mph. It can and will kill you.

unlikely but anything is possible

As a result of these obstacles, the experimental results are mixed. Hatcher calculated that his .30-caliber rifle bullets reached terminal velocity—the speed at which air resistance balances the accelerating force of gravity—at 300 feet per second. You might die from a bullet moving at that speed, but it's unlikely. Lighter bullets, like those fired from a 9mm handgun, max out at even lower speeds, between 150 and 250 feet per second, according to computer models.

Can falling bullets kill you? - Slate Magazine

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Some of the most horrific crimes on earth are committed by teens, sometimes by pre teens!!

Let's kill them all then

Don't be stupid.

Lets be parents who, you know, parent their kids!!

Yay! You're a super-parent! You're so awesome! Pat yourself on the back! Suck your own dick!


A child is dead - its time to brag!

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Some of the most horrific crimes on earth are committed by teens, sometimes by pre teens!!

Let's kill them all then

Yes. we all know about your abortion policy. Let the adults talk.

Abortion abortion. Abortion. Abortion abortion abortion.

 

[Zona]

That's why my kids never jumped a fence to get onto private property at 2am.
I parented!

Why is it some parents take the death of a child as a cue to brag about their own parenting abilities? Good for you buddy! Why don't you send the victim's mother a letter telling her what an awesome parent you are? Jeez, no one gives a shit you think you're awesome.

I know my kids will not be killed committing any crime, even if it is a pointless crime of trespass to intimidate.

Believing you can predict your kids' behavior can be a serious miscalculation. With that attitude its almost certain that one of them will get into drugs. Don't worry, you'll probably never even realize it.

[MENTION=21954]Sunshine[/MENTION]..... This one is for you.

 

[Vikrant]

Bullet does not tumble when going up. The aerodynamic nature of the bullet takes it to a higher altitude which gives it more potential to accelerate on its way downward. As I said earlier, the terminal velocity is not a constant thing, it depends on the density of the projectile.

If you want to shoot gun in the air and kill someone I cannot stop you but it is a stupid thing to do.

 

[DarkLion]

That's nonsense. I have no idea what the actual facts of this case are, but the right to use force to defend ourselves comes with reasonable restrictions. Trespassing doesn't warrant 'shoot-to-kill'. As others here have noted, if he'd actually tried breaking into the house, there's little dispute the homeowner would have been within his rights to shoot. But if all that happened here was the kid hopped a fence, I think blowing him away is little over the top, don't you?

At one am? I don't care if it was a kid or not, he had no right to be there and at that hour you can be damn certain he was not there to play checkers with the kids. I'm not going to let a thug enter my home, by then it might be too late. If he's got a problem being shot dead, well too fucking bad he shouldn't have been trespassing at odd hours of the night.

This isn't a race issue either. It's about one's right to defend himself and his family. When it comes to protect those I care about, I'm not going to open the door and play 20 questions with him.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Now let us take air resistance into the account. It is true, on its way down, the projectile reaches what is called terminal velocity due to steadily increasing friction caused by +g. However, the terminal velocity of the projectile is dependent on the density of the projectile and the aerodynamic nature of its shape. High density coupled with good aerodynamics results in high terminal velocity. Bullets are usually made of lead which is a highly dense metal. Bullets fired from high powered rifles are quite aerodynamic and have high density. As a result they have high terminal velocity. It is not uncommon for bullets to fall down with a speed of 300mph if fired straight up. Now imagine a 7.62mm ammo falling on your head with a speed of 300mph. It can and will kill you. It is dangerous to shoot guns in the air.

It is ...

however, you haven't presented all relevant variables.

Let's take an urban area, which, in the U.S., has about 10,000 people per square mile.

1 square mile = 5,280 feet x 5,280 feet = 27,878,400 sq feet.

The average person may have a profile, when view from the bullet, 5 sq ft. Some people will be standing - they will have the smallest profiles - others will be laying down on their backs or face down - they will have the largest, but I'd bet on average is no more than 5 sq ft. So those 10,000 people in that square mile is 50,000 sq ft of people

50,000/27,878,400 = 0.001793503 = 0.1793503%.

This means if you fire a gun into the air of an average urban area in the U.S., the chances of the bullet actually hitting someone is roughly (rounding up) 0.2%, or 1 in 500.

This of course assumes the bullet doesn't get lodged in the roof or part of the building above the person it would otherwise hit. The presence of multiple floored buildings and/or buildings with thick and/or stronger roofing material (or just a lot of crap piled in the attic) would reduce the risks.


Its definitely not anything I would do for fun and anyone who does it should be punished - but its not the most horribly heinous thing you could possibly do.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

That's nonsense. I have no idea what the actual facts of this case are, but the right to use force to defend ourselves comes with reasonable restrictions. Trespassing doesn't warrant 'shoot-to-kill'. As others here have noted, if he'd actually tried breaking into the house, there's little dispute the homeowner would have been within his rights to shoot. But if all that happened here was the kid hopped a fence, I think blowing him away is little over the top, don't you?

At one am? I don't care if it was a kid or not, he had no right to be there and at that hour you can be damn certain he was not there to play checkers with the kids. I'm not going to let a thug enter my home, by then it might be too late. If he's got a problem being shot dead, well too fucking bad he shouldn't have been trespassing at odd hours of the night.

Though folks get away with it from time to time, its not technically legal in this state to shoot someone dead merely for trespassing. Sorry. If you want to kill people for fun go somewhere else.

This isn't a race issue either. It's about one's right to defend himself and his family. When it comes to protect those I care about, I'm not going to open the door and play 20 questions with him.

The only things its really about is the facts of the case and Louisiana law. We can read the law now, if we want. We may need to wait for a jury to determine the facts. You're going to need some patience.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Now let us take air resistance into the account. It is true, on its way down, the projectile reaches what is called terminal velocity due to steadily increasing friction caused by +g. However, the terminal velocity of the projectile is dependent on the density of the projectile and the aerodynamic nature of its shape. High density coupled with good aerodynamics results in high terminal velocity. Bullets are usually made of lead which is a highly dense metal. Bullets fired from high powered rifles are quite aerodynamic and have high density. As a result they have high terminal velocity. It is not uncommon for bullets to fall down with a speed of 300mph if fired straight up. Now imagine a 7.62mm ammo falling on your head with a speed of 300mph. It can and will kill you. It is dangerous to shoot guns in the air.

Didn't actually read the posts that challenged you, did you? There is actual experimental evidence to prove that bullets fired straight up do not come down aerodynamically, they tumble, thus increasing their wind resistance. The impact has been shown to be exactly the same as dropping them from the height it takes for them to reach terminal velocity.

yes as the fall speed increases so does drag