$150 billion in aid to promote terrorism, 24 day nuclear inspection notice, 4 hostages still held,

[Indofred]

The prisoners.
One is Iranian, but also holds a US passport. He deliberately went to Iran to break the law. You might not like their law, but he still went there to break it.

Jason Rezaian
Another Iranian with an American passport. He's accusednof being a spy. Internal matter.

Amir Hekmati.
Another Iranian, but joined the US marines. Arrested whilst spying. Basically a traitor as he kept citizenship of a county he worked against.
If an American went to Iran, then spied on the IS for them, would he be a traitor. Well, that's what happened, just the other way around.

So, in conclusion, we have three Iranians, all went to Iran to break the law, and all were arrested.

 

[healthmyths]

I like how unfreezing their own money is "aid."

Only in kooky small brain land, low information conniebots.

"Will AID terrorism"... pea brain! YOU are so naive! This people want to destroy you and you say yes and I'm happy for it!
Geez you are so childish!

 

[PredFan]

Arguably the worst foreign policy disaster in US History.

 

[healthmyths]

The prisoners.
One is Iranian, but also holds a US passport. He deliberately went to Iran to break the law. You might not like their law, but he still went there to break it.

Jason Rezaian
Another Iranian with an American passport. He's accusednof being a spy. Internal matter.

Amir Hekmati.
Another Iranian, but joined the US marines. Arrested whilst spying. Basically a traitor as he kept citizenship of a county he worked against.
If an American went to Iran, then spied on the IS for them, would he be a traitor. Well, that's what happened, just the other way around.

So, in conclusion, we have three Iranians, all went to Iran to break the law, and all were arrested.

HYPOCRISY!!! Thy name is Bergdahl!

A deserter being feted and 5 known terrorists negotiated release!
May 2014 In the White House Rose Garden, President Obama delivers a statement about the recovery of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl...
As of 7/8/15 though...
The Article 32 hearing for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is scheduled for July 8 at Joint Base San Antonio-Fort Sam Houston, Texas, the Army announced Thursday.

Bergdahl, who spent five years as a captive under the Taliban, was charged March 25 with one count of desertion with intent to shirk important or hazardous duty, and one count of misbehavior before the enemy by endangering the safety of a command, unit or place.

Army sets date for Bergdahl Article 32
So the above are still Americans and we "leave no one behind"!!!! Even deserters!

 

[g5000]

and Obama says
“The starting premise of with our strategy with respect to Iran is that it would be a grave threat to the United States and our allies if they obtained a nuclear weapon,” Obama said. “We have always recognized that even if Iran does not get a nuclear weapon, that Iran poses challenges to our interests and our values....”

What USA gets:
- Iran reduces by about half the number of centrifuges actively enriching uranium
- Iran reduces its stockpile of enriched uranium from about five tons to 300 kilograms
- Iran repurposes its heavy water reactor in Arak so it does not produce plutonium
- An unspecified increase in inspections by the IAEA

What Iran gets:
Sanctions relief:
- Almost every type of U.S., EU, and UN sanctions lifted
- Repeal of six UN Security Council resolutions declaring the Iranian nuclear program illegal
- Top IRGC and Quds Force terrorists removed from the sanctions list, including Qassem Suleimani,
leader of Iran’s campaign against U.S. soldiers in Iraq, and Ahmad Vahidi, mastermind of the 1994
Jewish community center bombing in Argentina that killed 85 people
- The removal from the sanctions list of approximately 800 people and legal entities,
including 23 out of 24 Iranian banks
- $100 to $150 billion to be unfrozen and given to Iran with no restrictions on its use to purchase arms and fund terrorism, including funding for Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Assad regime in Syria
Nuclear program:
- Iran keeps every one of its nuclear centrifuges
- Iran keeps its entire physical nuclear infrastructure, including the enrichment facilities at Fordow and Natanz and the nuclear reactor at Bushehr
- Iran permitted to continue research and development on all of its advanced centrifuge designs, reducing nuclear breakout time at the end of the deal to weeks
- Iran permitted to transition its allowed enrichment of uranium from older centrifuge designs to advanced designs
- No “anywhere, anytime” inspections. Iran can delay inspection of any site for at least 24 days
- No requirement that Iran fully disclose past nuclear weapons research and development (known as the PMD issue)
- The P5+1 western powers pledge to collaborate with Iran on nuclear technology
- Restrictions on enrichment – part of the “sunset” of the deal – are lifted after eight years
- If Iran is thought to have violated the deal, in order to “snap back” sanctions a dispute resolution process must be undertaken that can last two and a half months, after which the matter can be referred to the UN Security Council. At the UNSC, the re-imposition of sanctions can be vetoed by Russia, which stands to earn billions of dollars from arms sales to a non-sanctioned Iran.
Concessions unrelated to nuclear program:
- Ballistic missile embargo lifted after eight years
- Conventional arms embargo lifted after five years
- Iran keeps U.S. hostages

The Iran Deal Explained The Weekly Standard

How complicated to understand... OBAMA sold the west out!
NO inspections PLUS $150 billion

Didn't I ask you the other day if you guys are on some kind of rube mailing list? This is the second topic today (so far) making the bogus claim that all inspections can be delayed by 24 days.

That's bullshit. Flat out bullshit. Only inspections of military sites require an access request which will be submitted to a panel comprised of members of the P5+1 nations.

"NO inspections" is bullshit wrapped in a piss-soaked tortilla.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Interestingly enough, nobody talks about the part of the deal that says if we feel any kind of treachery or lies going on with their nukes, the sanctions will be IMMEDIATELY reinstated.

And..................they forget that the leader of Iran was elected on a platform of getting the economy going again, which is why all those Iranian citizens were dancing in the streets, because they were feeling like there was progress being made in their economy and maybe they could afford Western things.

Additionally................they forget that the number of centrifuges is going to be greatly reduced, as well as the fact that Iran is going to give up all it's weapons grade material, with a promise to not refine any more, and the inspections don't stop after 10 years, they are supposed to be a permanent part.

The documents are bound to be released sometime soon on the Internet, maybe instead of listening to political hacks from either side, we should actually look up and read what we can for ourselves.

 

[healthmyths]

and Obama says
“The starting premise of with our strategy with respect to Iran is that it would be a grave threat to the United States and our allies if they obtained a nuclear weapon,” Obama said. “We have always recognized that even if Iran does not get a nuclear weapon, that Iran poses challenges to our interests and our values....”

What USA gets:
- Iran reduces by about half the number of centrifuges actively enriching uranium
- Iran reduces its stockpile of enriched uranium from about five tons to 300 kilograms
- Iran repurposes its heavy water reactor in Arak so it does not produce plutonium
- An unspecified increase in inspections by the IAEA

What Iran gets:
Sanctions relief:
- Almost every type of U.S., EU, and UN sanctions lifted
- Repeal of six UN Security Council resolutions declaring the Iranian nuclear program illegal
- Top IRGC and Quds Force terrorists removed from the sanctions list, including Qassem Suleimani,
leader of Iran’s campaign against U.S. soldiers in Iraq, and Ahmad Vahidi, mastermind of the 1994
Jewish community center bombing in Argentina that killed 85 people
- The removal from the sanctions list of approximately 800 people and legal entities,
including 23 out of 24 Iranian banks
- $100 to $150 billion to be unfrozen and given to Iran with no restrictions on its use to purchase arms and fund terrorism, including funding for Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Assad regime in Syria
Nuclear program:
- Iran keeps every one of its nuclear centrifuges
- Iran keeps its entire physical nuclear infrastructure, including the enrichment facilities at Fordow and Natanz and the nuclear reactor at Bushehr
- Iran permitted to continue research and development on all of its advanced centrifuge designs, reducing nuclear breakout time at the end of the deal to weeks
- Iran permitted to transition its allowed enrichment of uranium from older centrifuge designs to advanced designs
- No “anywhere, anytime” inspections. Iran can delay inspection of any site for at least 24 days
- No requirement that Iran fully disclose past nuclear weapons research and development (known as the PMD issue)
- The P5+1 western powers pledge to collaborate with Iran on nuclear technology
- Restrictions on enrichment – part of the “sunset” of the deal – are lifted after eight years
- If Iran is thought to have violated the deal, in order to “snap back” sanctions a dispute resolution process must be undertaken that can last two and a half months, after which the matter can be referred to the UN Security Council. At the UNSC, the re-imposition of sanctions can be vetoed by Russia, which stands to earn billions of dollars from arms sales to a non-sanctioned Iran.
Concessions unrelated to nuclear program:
- Ballistic missile embargo lifted after eight years
- Conventional arms embargo lifted after five years
- Iran keeps U.S. hostages

The Iran Deal Explained The Weekly Standard

How complicated to understand... OBAMA sold the west out!
NO inspections PLUS $150 billion

Didn't I ask you the other day if you guys are on some kind of rube mailing list? This is the second topic today (so far) making the bogus claim that all inspections can be delayed by 24 days.

That's bullshit. Flat out bullshit. Only inspections of military sites require an access request which will be submitted to a panel comprised of members of the P5+1 nations.

"NO inspections" is bullshit wrapped in a piss-soaked tortilla.

WHERE ARE YOUR sources because the below papers bother liberal biased MSM rags disagree with you!

OK argue then with these people!!!

Inspectors will be allowed to visit any site deemed suspicious, but only after a process that could delay inspection for up to 24 days.

White House response: A 24-day delay is not long enough for Iranians to conceal significant covert operations.

The talking and arguing points of the Iran nuclear deal - LA Times


INSPECTIONS Monitors will be given extensive and regular access to Iran’s major nuclear sites for the next 25 years. Secretary of State John Kerry said that in some instances, the access is permanent.
But Iran can delay requested inspections for 24 days, more than enough time, critics say, for Iran to clean up any evidence of illegal nuclear activities.
Crucial Provisions of the Accord - The New York Times
NEXT time you claim something is BULLSHIT back it with sources other then your lame brain!

 

[healthmyths]

Interestingly enough, nobody talks about the part of the deal that says if we feel any kind of treachery or lies going on with their nukes, the sanctions will be IMMEDIATELY reinstated.

And..................they forget that the leader of Iran was elected on a platform of getting the economy going again, which is why all those Iranian citizens were dancing in the streets, because they were feeling like there was progress being made in their economy and maybe they could afford Western things.

Additionally................they forget that the number of centrifuges is going to be greatly reduced, as well as the fact that Iran is going to give up all it's weapons grade material, with a promise to not refine any more, and the inspections don't stop after 10 years, they are supposed to be a permanent part.

The documents are bound to be released sometime soon on the Internet, maybe instead of listening to political hacks from either side, we should actually look up and read what we can for ourselves.

How f...king NAIVE! YOU are truly ignorant and so gullible!
The Iranians have been terrorizing the world since 1979 and you still believe them?????
Read what these two liberal newspapers have to say about it!!!

Inspectors will be allowed to visit any site deemed suspicious, but only after a process that could delay inspection for up to 24 days.

White House response: A 24-day delay is not long enough for Iranians to conceal significant covert operations.

The talking and arguing points of the Iran nuclear deal - LA Times


INSPECTIONS Monitors will be given extensive and regular access to Iran’s major nuclear sites for the next 25 years. Secretary of State John Kerry said that in some instances, the access is permanent.
But Iran can delay requested inspections for 24 days, more than enough time, critics say, for Iran to clean up any evidence of illegal nuclear activities.
Crucial Provisions of the Accord - The New York Times

 

[ABikerSailor]

I guess a lot of you people miss the basic physics of nuclear material in the fact that it's radioactive and therefore very hard to transport, and even harder to hide.

 

[ABikerSailor]

And.................the deal doesn't say that it will take a minimum of 24 days, it says that it could (meaning a possibility), take UP TO 24 days, meaning that it has to be done in that timeframe.

And no..................I don't think you could clean up all the radioactivity to undetectable levels if it had been sitting around for a while. Radioactive material tends to leave a trail.

 

[healthmyths]

And.................the deal doesn't say that it will take a minimum of 24 days, it says that it could (meaning a possibility), take UP TO 24 days, meaning that it has to be done in that timeframe.

And no..................I don't think you could clean up all the radioactivity to undetectable levels if it had been sitting around for a while. Radioactive material tends to leave a trail.

And then... after the 24 days...
But, verifying that Iran is complying with the deal may be nearly impossible due to the failure of negotiators to agree to steps that would allow inspectors access to Iran nuclear facilities.

The fear is that allowing Iran such a long period of time to comply with desired inspections could allow the Islamic Republic to move the development of nuclear materials to other facilities while negotiations were occurring.

The language of the deal says that Iran must "generally allow" IAEA access. This broad wording was sought by the U.S. despite the knowledge that Iran has a long history of rejecting access to inspectors.

Section Q. of the negotiated framework reads:

"Requests for access pursuant to provisions of this JCPOA will be made in good faith,with due observance of the sovereign rights of Iran, and kept to the minimum necessary to effectively implement the verification responsibilities under this JCPOA."
Deal Gives Iran Ability to Delay Requested Inspections for Up to 24 Days MRCTV

 

[healthmyths]

Iran’s illicit nuclear facilities Natanz and Fordow, whose operations were supposed to be shut down under multiple U.N. Security Council resolutions,
have now been legitimized, despite the fact that they were built covertly in violation of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty.

Sunni Arab states threatened by Iran are likely to hedge their bets and take out insurance by working to expand their own nuclear options.
Saudi Arabia already has let it be known that it will demand the same concessions on uranium enrichment that Iran received.
The Saudis have begun negotiations to buy French nuclear reactors and this civilian program could become the foundation for a weapons program down the line.

Other Arab states and Turkey are likely to tee up their own nuclear programs as a prudent counterweight to offset to Iran’s expanding nuclear potential, after some of the restrictions on its uranium enrichment program automatically sunset.
The Most Glaring Flaws in Obama s Iran Deal

 

[irosie91]

The prisoners.
One is Iranian, but also holds a US passport. He deliberately went to Iran to break the law. You might not like their law, but he still went there to break it.

Jason Rezaian
Another Iranian with an American passport. He's accusednof being a spy. Internal matter.

Amir Hekmati.
Another Iranian, but joined the US marines. Arrested whilst spying. Basically a traitor as he kept citizenship of a county he worked against.
If an American went to Iran, then spied on the IS for them, would he be a traitor. Well, that's what happened, just the other way around.

So, in conclusion, we have three Iranians, all went to Iran to break the law, and all were arrested.

I like your idea------in the USA we have many people from south east asia-----they come and go-----when they get back to the USA ---it would be a good idea to throw the scum in jail. -------some day we will probably be able to toss ever piece of shit who visits SAUDI ARABIA into jail for visiting a HOSTILE NATION. I have had many friends from Iran------they visited and returned and were not thrown in jail Is there a statute of limitations on this brilliant approach?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hostages?

Robert Levinson is a CIA operative, aka a spy, who was on a mission into Iran, aka spying.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Are we all surprised at the incompetence of our buffoon in chief?

 

[Stephanie]

he doesn't care about the Hostages. They are American citizens after all

all he cares about is giving his Iranian midget Jarrett what she wants.

and the HELL WITH any of us and our country

 

[Stephanie]

 

[NYcarbineer]

lol, if he'd gotten the prisoners released, the derangement sufferers would have claimed he sold us out for the political points of getting 4 Americans freed.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

lol, if he'd gotten the prisoners released, the derangement sufferers would have claimed he sold us out for the political points of getting 4 Americans freed.

Naw, its got that jimmeh feel all over again.

 

[Stephanie]

We THE people: better start getting prepared to keep OURSELVES safe from our enemies. . this administration isn't going to do it for us

SNIP:
Kerry Dismisses Iran's Financial Support for Hezbollah, Other Terror Groups
By Patrick Goodenough | July 15, 2015 | 5:04 AM EDT
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Fighters with the Iranian-backed Shi’ite terrorist group Hezbollah march in southern Beirut, Lebanon, in this Nov. 2010 file photo. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla, File)
(CNSNews.com) – Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday played down concerns that Iran will use the windfall from sanctions relief under the nuclear agreement to boost sponsorship for terrorists, suggesting that groups like Hezbollah do not benefit all that much from Iranian financial support in the first place.

The notion that the $100 billion which Iran will obtain “is going to make all the difference in the world is just – it’s not true,” Kerry told the BBC in Vienna after the Iran nuclear agreement was announced. He was responding to a question about concerns that Iran could use funds gained through sanctions relief to increase support terrorists.

“What Iran has done for years with Hezbollah does not depend on money,” he said, in reference to the Lebanese Shi’ite group, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization. Similarly, he said, Iran’s controversial activities in Yemen and Iraq have not “depended on money.”

“Sure, something may go additionally somewhere,” Kerry continued. “But if President [Hasan] Rouhani and his administration do not [use the money to] take care of the people of Iran, they will have an enormous problem.”

He said it was the U.S. intelligence community analysis that whatever amount of money accrued by Iran “that finds its way somewhere, is not the difference in what is happening in the Middle East.”

A 2010 Pentagon report to Congress on Iran's military power said Tehran 'provides roughly 00-$200 million per year in funding to support Hezbollah.' (Image: DoD)
In a 2010 report to Congress on Iran’s military power, the Department of Defense said that Iran “provides roughly $100-$200 million per year in funding to support Hezbollah.”


Kerry Dismisses Iran s Financial Support for Hezbollah Other Terror Groups