$20,000,000,000,000.00 Decit...What is Hillary's Plan to REDUCE it?

[Indeependent]

Hillary Clinton on the issues

All tried and failed.
No tariffs to diminish the profits gained by leaving America.
Job training but not forcing companies in any way whatever to hire Americans.
Raising taxes on the rich...so they'll leave the US even sooner.

Somebody please explain to me how all of a sudden Directors and CEOs are going to be MOVED by these programs to all of a sudden love Americans and make America prosper.

Why? Why should you or any American citizen be concerned with the national debt? It is a debt owed by the government and as long as there is confidence in the American economy, which as of now is the strongest economy in the world, then you nor any other person will ever be troubled by the debt.

So both candidates are bringing up a non-issue?

It has been a political issue for decades, and will be one for decades to come. But the reality is, it really makes no difference as long as the US economy continues to be a going concern. If you get a job paying you $1000 per week, and you borrow $300,000 for a new house, as long as you keep working the debt is not an issue. It only becomes a problem when you have no income. The US economy is the strongest in the world and investors all over the world line up to loan us money.

Will the "powers that be" raise our taxes to pay for this non-issue?

 

[JBond]

Hillary Clinton on the issues

All tried and failed.
No tariffs to diminish the profits gained by leaving America.
Job training but not forcing companies in any way whatever to hire Americans.
Raising taxes on the rich...so they'll leave the US even sooner.

Somebody please explain to me how all of a sudden Directors and CEOs are going to be MOVED by these programs to all of a sudden love Americans and make America prosper.

Be prepared for more corporate inversions with a Clinton victory.

 

[Lewdog]

So if Trump does his plans where he makes a huge 50% import tax that isn't going to force companies to bring the jobs back?

Trump is not going to put a tariff on anything. Only congress can do that, and their constituencies, who own Ford stock, including me, will not tolerate it. Ford does much more business in the rest of the world than they do in the USA. Chrysler is closing down ALL of their USA manufacturing WITHOUT a tariff.

Sorry we as a nation bailed those fucking loser automobile manufacturers out. If they don't want to get with the program and have plants in the US? Fuck'm. Raise the tariffs so high a new company will open, with American made cars.

There ARE no American Made cars. The headlights were built in Malaysia. The fuel injector was but in South Korea. The transmission was assembled in Mexico. The headliner was made in the Philippines......

That's not going to stop a new company from popping up. Do you remember Saturn? And how their whole thing was that the entire car was made in the US?

...while is now no longer produced.....

No, it isn't, but that isn't going to stop a new company from starting up, if the other ones fail to move their companies back to the US. Saturn was around 24 years and only shut down because GM had to downsize after the market collapse in 2008.

 

[Vandalshandle]

BTW. About Germany protecting their own workers. Volkswagen has been building their cars in Mexico all the way back to when they were still building the first version of the beetle in the 1970's.

 

[Indeependent]

BTW. About Germany protecting their own workers. Volkswagen has been building their cars in Mexico all the way back to when they were still building the first version of the beetle in the 1970's.

Fine...how about naming 5,000 other German companies doing the same.
Where is the R&D done?

 

[Vandalshandle]

Trump is not going to put a tariff on anything. Only congress can do that, and their constituencies, who own Ford stock, including me, will not tolerate it. Ford does much more business in the rest of the world than they do in the USA. Chrysler is closing down ALL of their USA manufacturing WITHOUT a tariff.

Sorry we as a nation bailed those fucking loser automobile manufacturers out. If they don't want to get with the program and have plants in the US? Fuck'm. Raise the tariffs so high a new company will open, with American made cars.

There ARE no American Made cars. The headlights were built in Malaysia. The fuel injector was but in South Korea. The transmission was assembled in Mexico. The headliner was made in the Philippines......

That's not going to stop a new company from popping up. Do you remember Saturn? And how their whole thing was that the entire car was made in the US?

...while is now no longer produced.....

No, it isn't, but that isn't going to stop a new company from starting up, if the other ones fail to move their companies back to the US. Saturn was around 24 years and only shut down because GM had to downsize after the market collapse in 2008.

Saturn shut down because it was a piece of crap. I bought one in 1993, and by the time it had 40,000 miles on it, it was burning a qt of oil every 1,000 miles. It overheated at 65 MPH. However, LONG before that, GM discovered that they could not afford to produce a car separately from it's other cars. They needed to be able to use interchange parts, so they interrogated it into their GMC umbrella (very quietly)

 

[Indeependent]

Sorry we as a nation bailed those fucking loser automobile manufacturers out. If they don't want to get with the program and have plants in the US? Fuck'm. Raise the tariffs so high a new company will open, with American made cars.

There ARE no American Made cars. The headlights were built in Malaysia. The fuel injector was but in South Korea. The transmission was assembled in Mexico. The headliner was made in the Philippines......

That's not going to stop a new company from popping up. Do you remember Saturn? And how their whole thing was that the entire car was made in the US?

...while is now no longer produced.....

No, it isn't, but that isn't going to stop a new company from starting up, if the other ones fail to move their companies back to the US. Saturn was around 24 years and only shut down because GM had to downsize after the market collapse in 2008.

Saturn shut down because it was a piece of crap. I bought one in 1993, and by the time it had 40,000 miles on it, it was burning a qt of oil every 1,000 miles. However, LONG before that, GM discovered that they could not afford to produce a car separately from it's other cars. They needed to be able to use interchange parts, so they interrogated it into their GMC umbrella (very quietly)

GM's upper management made a LOT of mistakes.

 

[Vandalshandle]

BTW. About Germany protecting their own workers. Volkswagen has been building their cars in Mexico all the way back to when they were still building the first version of the beetle in the 1970's.

Fine...how about naming 5,000 other German companies doing the same.
Where is the R&D done?

I would not know, since I am not familiar with anything other than VW and a couple of motorcycles that they successfully sell in this country.

 

[Vandalshandle]

The two most successful auto manufacturers in the USA are Honda, Toyota, closely followed by Hyundai. Interestingly enough, the Japaneses and the South Koreans do NOT insist that they be manufactured in their own countries. All of them are built right here, because it is economically feasible to do so. NOT because of some protectionist rhetoric..

 

[Lewdog]

The two most successful auto manufacturers in the USA are Honda, Toyota, closely followed by Hyundai. Interestingly enough, the Japaneses and the South Koreans do NOT insist that they be manufactured in their own countries. All of them are built right here, because it is economically feasible to do so. NOT because of some protectionist rhetoric..

But they also bring their manufacturing style and management style to the US. And it works. I live in Kentucky and have talked to people that work at the Toyota plant in Georgetown. They say they treat them great there. Funny that a foreign company in the US treats US workers better than American companies.

 

[Care4all]

Hillary's plan has been scored by Independent think tanks, and over 10 years, will add $200 billion to the national debt. Trump's plan over 10 years will add $10 Trillion MORE to the National debt, making it $30 Trillion....

If you take the National Debt seriously, then you would HAVE to support Hillary and Hillary's plan, over the Donald's plan which ADDS nearly $10 Trillion more to the National Debt than her plan.

Have you ever considered that Trump's plan expresses an extreme view so that it leaves a massive amount of room for negotiation?

For example when you go to buy a car the Car Dealership has a ridiculous price on the windshield. They know that nobody will pay that much for the car. It's just a tool to start the conversation. Then you come back with a ridiculous counter offer that you know they won't accept. Eventually the two of you work out a deal that is good for both of you but also bad for both of you. They didn't sell the $12,000 car to you for $18,000 but you didn't get the $12,000 car for $7,000 either. Trump's plan are deliberately unrealistic. He is leaving room to make a deal.

Last night the Republican candidate wore a blue tie which is a Democratic color. The Democratic candidate wore a red dress which is a Republican color. Both of them are ready to wheel and deal. Trump doesn't really want to implement tariffs. He has already started the negotiation. Even if he does implement tariffs they will be short lived. The offending nation would comply with our demands within a short period of time. Trump talks in extremes because that gets people's attention. That is deliberate. He does that on purpose.

I'm sorry, he doesn't get to play those games with we the people or in govt, this is not the Trump corporation, where he can just make up whatever he wants, no matter how grossly inaccurate it is, and pretend this is just negotiating....

that game may work on his 'followers' but not on the rest of us....who live in the real world.

He either has a plan, that is fiscally responsible or he doesn't....and it is grossly clear, that he doesn't....he is just throwing poop against the wall seeing which one, if any sticks....that's not a leader, that's not even a negotiator who is fiscally responsible....if he were, his plans would not be filled with a bunch of pipe dreams that he knows he can't fulfill or even come close to fulfilling....

Negotiating should have begun with him starting low with his plan, then settling a little higher to get all the congress critters on board, not start with his plans filled with so much spending that he alone would add 10 trillion to the national debt.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Yeah getting billionaires to pay their taxes is a good start.

I'd say a flat tax would be a good idea. Three brackets, 15%, 30%, 58%. The first $50,000 for everybody is tax free so someone making $45,000 pays no taxes, someone making $10 million pays no taxes on the first $50,000. No deductions for anyone making over $200,000 a year which is about 3% of the population, the rest will have deductions available for children,medical expenses, etc. One page tax returns.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Hillary Clinton on the issues

All tried and failed.
No tariffs to diminish the profits gained by leaving America.
Job training but not forcing companies in any way whatever to hire Americans.
Raising taxes on the rich...so they'll leave the US even sooner.

Somebody please explain to me how all of a sudden Directors and CEOs are going to be MOVED by these programs to all of a sudden love Americans and make America prosper.

Why? Why should you or any American citizen be concerned with the national debt? It is a debt owed by the government and as long as there is confidence in the American economy, which as of now is the strongest economy in the world, then you nor any other person will ever be troubled by the debt.

So both candidates are bringing up a non-issue?

It has been a political issue for decades, and will be one for decades to come. But the reality is, it really makes no difference as long as the US economy continues to be a going concern. If you get a job paying you $1000 per week, and you borrow $300,000 for a new house, as long as you keep working the debt is not an issue. It only becomes a problem when you have no income. The US economy is the strongest in the world and investors all over the world line up to loan us money.

Will the "powers that be" raise our taxes to pay for this non-issue?

The government is going to require more income to fund the debt. The revenue can be generated through growth which will generate more jobs and higher individual/ corporate income which will in turn increase tax revenues, or thru simply increasing the tax rate, or some cobination of both.

 

[Indeependent]

Hillary Clinton on the issues

All tried and failed.
No tariffs to diminish the profits gained by leaving America.
Job training but not forcing companies in any way whatever to hire Americans.
Raising taxes on the rich...so they'll leave the US even sooner.

Somebody please explain to me how all of a sudden Directors and CEOs are going to be MOVED by these programs to all of a sudden love Americans and make America prosper.

Why? Why should you or any American citizen be concerned with the national debt? It is a debt owed by the government and as long as there is confidence in the American economy, which as of now is the strongest economy in the world, then you nor any other person will ever be troubled by the debt.

So both candidates are bringing up a non-issue?

It has been a political issue for decades, and will be one for decades to come. But the reality is, it really makes no difference as long as the US economy continues to be a going concern. If you get a job paying you $1000 per week, and you borrow $300,000 for a new house, as long as you keep working the debt is not an issue. It only becomes a problem when you have no income. The US economy is the strongest in the world and investors all over the world line up to loan us money.

Will the "powers that be" raise our taxes to pay for this non-issue?

The government is going to require more income to fund the debt. The revenue can be generated through growth which will generate more jobs and higher individual/ corporate income which will in turn increase tax revenues, or thru simply increasing the tax rate, or some cobination of both.

Growth?
We can kiss that idea goodbye.
Unless restaurants that go out of business after 9 months are the definition of growth.

 

[Vandalshandle]

The two most successful auto manufacturers in the USA are Honda, Toyota, closely followed by Hyundai. Interestingly enough, the Japaneses and the South Koreans do NOT insist that they be manufactured in their own countries. All of them are built right here, because it is economically feasible to do so. NOT because of some protectionist rhetoric..

But they also bring their manufacturing style and management style to the US. And it works. I live in Kentucky and have talked to people that work at the Toyota plant in Georgetown. They say they treat them great there. Funny that a foreign company in the US treats US workers better than American companies.

My step father built cars for Ford for over 50 years, except during the war years. He used to build Model T's. Before the union came in, Ford would fire any employee who parked a car that was not a Ford in the company parking lot.

 

[Indeependent]

The two most successful auto manufacturers in the USA are Honda, Toyota, closely followed by Hyundai. Interestingly enough, the Japaneses and the South Koreans do NOT insist that they be manufactured in their own countries. All of them are built right here, because it is economically feasible to do so. NOT because of some protectionist rhetoric..

But they also bring their manufacturing style and management style to the US. And it works. I live in Kentucky and have talked to people that work at the Toyota plant in Georgetown. They say they treat them great there. Funny that a foreign company in the US treats US workers better than American companies.

My step father built cars for Ford for over 50 years, except during the war years. He used to build Model T's. Before the union came in, Ford would fire any employee who parked a car that was not a Ford in the company parking lot.

Most companies are rather sensitive when it comes to other brand names on their premises.

 

[Care4all]

Yeah getting billionaires to pay their taxes is a good start.

I'd say a flat tax would be a good idea. Three brackets, 15%, 30%, 58%. The first $50,000 for everybody is tax free so someone making $45,000 pays no taxes, someone making $10 million pays no taxes on the first $50,000. No deductions for anyone making over $200,000 a year which is about 3% of the population, the rest will have deductions available for children,medical expenses, etc. One page tax returns.

I would amend that, but like your idea of a progressive flat rate... I believe there should be more brackets....It seems with fewer it would be unfair for say a family making $500k a year having to pay the same flat tax rate as the person earning $500 million a year type thing...

And, I think no matter the taxable income, even for billionaires, medical expenses should be an allowable deduction.

 

[Jackson]

Free tuition for college.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Trump is going to bring all these jobs back:

 

[Indeependent]

Trump is going to bring all these jobs back:

What's your point?
That factory could be in the US.