$20,000,000,000,000.00 Decit...What is Hillary's Plan to REDUCE it?

[Campbell]

Hillary Clinton on the issues

All tried and failed.
No tariffs to diminish the profits gained by leaving America.
Job training but not forcing companies in any way whatever to hire Americans.
Raising taxes on the rich...so they'll leave the US even sooner.

Somebody please explain to me how all of a sudden Directors and CEOs are going to be MOVED by these programs to all of a sudden love Americans and make America prosper.

The Republican tax cuts are the reason we have a debt in the first place:

..............................................Total U S Debt................................................

Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt

US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82

09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32

09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89

09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15

09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48

09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50

09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62

09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34

09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73

09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39

09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66

09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25

09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32

09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16

09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00

09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42

09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00

09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00

09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

[Indeependent]

We are talking RICARDIAN Free Trade.

The Law of Comparative Advantage does not allow for tariffs. It also means that jobs will be moved around. Countries will produce what they can make most efficiently and trade for the rest. This would require retraining for jobs replaced by trade. I'm all for it as long as there is a strong retraining program established.

Which translates into not everything made in India and China.

 

[Vandalshandle]

{sigh}

Your sigh is due to your Stock Portfolio.

Otherwise known as the Free Enterprise system, which all conservatives claim to love more than anything. And I agree. As part owner of Ford, I expect..no, demand, that management maximize profit on my investment.

And I agree with you completely that the job of a business Entity is return on investment.
That, however, is NOT the job of Government.

Yet Trump seems bent on restraining the invisible hand of capitalism as president, (except, of course, his own businesses ) I would call putting a 50% tariff on Ford to be government interference with the free market, myself.

No, Trump intends to cut off the hands of your democrat crony capitalism......

Damn! I never knew that Trump was pro socialist, and anti Free Enterprise!

 

[Indeependent]

Your sigh is due to your Stock Portfolio.

Otherwise known as the Free Enterprise system, which all conservatives claim to love more than anything. And I agree. As part owner of Ford, I expect..no, demand, that management maximize profit on my investment.

And I agree with you completely that the job of a business Entity is return on investment.
That, however, is NOT the job of Government.

Yet Trump seems bent on restraining the invisible hand of capitalism as president, (except, of course, his own businesses ) I would call putting a 50% tariff on Ford to be government interference with the free market, myself.

No, Trump intends to cut off the hands of your democrat crony capitalism......

Damn! I never knew that Trump was pro socialist, and anti Free Enterprise!

If what we have today is Free Enterprise, I'm against it.
Stabbing people in the heart is immoral.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Otherwise known as the Free Enterprise system, which all conservatives claim to love more than anything. And I agree. As part owner of Ford, I expect..no, demand, that management maximize profit on my investment.

And I agree with you completely that the job of a business Entity is return on investment.
That, however, is NOT the job of Government.

Yet Trump seems bent on restraining the invisible hand of capitalism as president, (except, of course, his own businesses ) I would call putting a 50% tariff on Ford to be government interference with the free market, myself.

No, Trump intends to cut off the hands of your democrat crony capitalism......

Damn! I never knew that Trump was pro socialist, and anti Free Enterprise!

If what we have today is Free Enterprise, I'm against it.
Stabbing people in the heart is immoral.

Well, I have functioned in a capitalistic world all my life, and I don't recall ever stabbing anyone in the heart. While unrestrained capitalism is evil personified, (as demonstrated by the 2008 financial industry fiasco) capitalism in general brings brings out the best in people. Sometimes it takes a kick in the ass to make it work correctly. Hell, the CEO of Wells Fargo just agreed to forgo $41 million in bonuses, which restores my faith!

 

[Indeependent]

And I agree with you completely that the job of a business Entity is return on investment.
That, however, is NOT the job of Government.

Yet Trump seems bent on restraining the invisible hand of capitalism as president, (except, of course, his own businesses ) I would call putting a 50% tariff on Ford to be government interference with the free market, myself.

No, Trump intends to cut off the hands of your democrat crony capitalism......

Damn! I never knew that Trump was pro socialist, and anti Free Enterprise!

If what we have today is Free Enterprise, I'm against it.
Stabbing people in the heart is immoral.

Well, I have functioned in a capitalistic world all my life, and I don't recall ever stabbing anyone in the heart. While unrestrained capitalism is evil personified, (as demonstrated by the 2008 financial industry fiasco) capitalism in general brings brings out the best in people. Sometimes it takes a kick in the ass to make it work correctly. Hell, the CEO of Wells Fargo just agreed to forgo $41 million in bonuses, which restores my faith!

I didn't say you betrayed anyone, but when you lost a job there was another one coming down the pike; those days are gone.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Trump has a plan to “force” companies to hire Americans? Please elaborate.

Doe Hillary have a plan to "force" Mexicans to not have forks, too? Please elaborate.

 

[presonorek]

that game may work on his 'followers' but not on the rest of us....who live in the real world.

I just gave you a real world scenario on how to buy a car. Negotiating with congress or foreign nations is done in the same way. There really are people who are effective negotiators. It isn't a fantasy. Trump will lose for the same reason that Romney lost. People can't relate to successful people because the average person isn't successful.

 

[Indeependent]

that game may work on his 'followers' but not on the rest of us....who live in the real world.

I just gave you a real world scenario on how to buy a car. Negotiating with congress or foreign nations is done in the same way. There really are people who are effective negotiators. It isn't a fantasy. Trump will lose for the same reason that Romney lost. People can't relate to successful people because the average person isn't successful.

I deal with different successful people all day and they love Trump.
I don't even ask them.

 

[presonorek]

Hillary's plan has been scored by Independent think tanks, and over 10 years, will add $200 billion to the national debt. Trump's plan over 10 years will add $10 Trillion MORE to the National debt, making it $30 Trillion....

If you take the National Debt seriously, then you would HAVE to support Hillary and Hillary's plan, over the Donald's plan which ADDS nearly $10 Trillion more to the National Debt than her plan.

Have you ever considered that Trump's plan expresses an extreme view so that it leaves a massive amount of room for negotiation?

For example when you go to buy a car the Car Dealership has a ridiculous price on the windshield. They know that nobody will pay that much for the car. It's just a tool to start the conversation. Then you come back with a ridiculous counter offer that you know they won't accept. Eventually the two of you work out a deal that is good for both of you but also bad for both of you. They didn't sell the $12,000 car to you for $18,000 but you didn't get the $12,000 car for $7,000 either. Trump's plan are deliberately unrealistic. He is leaving room to make a deal.

Last night the Republican candidate wore a blue tie which is a Democratic color. The Democratic candidate wore a red dress which is a Republican color. Both of them are ready to wheel and deal. Trump doesn't really want to implement tariffs. He has already started the negotiation. Even if he does implement tariffs they will be short lived. The offending nation would comply with our demands within a short period of time. Trump talks in extremes because that gets people's attention. That is deliberate. He does that on purpose.

“Trump’s plans are deliberately unrealistic….”

Sums it up perfectly.

Not all people have the art of negotiation. That's why Trump will lose. They think Trump is delusional because he speaks in extremes. He is deliberately setting the bar unrealistically high so that he can reach the highest point on the realistic side of things. Let's say it is realistic to achieve 8. If you start the bar at 12 then you might just end up with 8. If you start the bar at 8 then you might end up with 6. You just lost 2 by being realistic in your discussion. Don't be a loser. Be a winner.

 

[yiostheoy]

Hillary Clinton on the issues

All tried and failed.
No tariffs to diminish the profits gained by leaving America.
Job training but not forcing companies in any way whatever to hire Americans.
Raising taxes on the rich...so they'll leave the US even sooner.

Somebody please explain to me how all of a sudden Directors and CEOs are going to be MOVED by these programs to all of a sudden love Americans and make America prosper.

If you (or anyone else) really wants to "reduce" or even completely eliminate the US Federal Debt, all that needs to be done is to print greenbacks and redeem all the bonds that are outstanding.

Since the rich rarely spend their money anyway, as we already learned under Reaganomics and Bushomics, there won't be inflation.

The debt would then be gone and the far right could stop crying about it.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Well, it is obvious, spend more.

 

[presonorek]

that game may work on his 'followers' but not on the rest of us....who live in the real world.

I just gave you a real world scenario on how to buy a car. Negotiating with congress or foreign nations is done in the same way. There really are people who are effective negotiators. It isn't a fantasy. Trump will lose for the same reason that Romney lost. People can't relate to successful people because the average person isn't successful.

I deal with different successful people all day and they love Trump.
I don't even ask them.

Successful people are outnumbered. Being an intelligent leader with impeccable fiscal management skills doesn't always win the White House. It didn't work for Romney in 2012. It didn't work for Wendell Willkie in 1940. It won't work for Trump in 2016.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Yet Trump seems bent on restraining the invisible hand of capitalism as president, (except, of course, his own businesses ) I would call putting a 50% tariff on Ford to be government interference with the free market, myself.

No, Trump intends to cut off the hands of your democrat crony capitalism......

Damn! I never knew that Trump was pro socialist, and anti Free Enterprise!

If what we have today is Free Enterprise, I'm against it.
Stabbing people in the heart is immoral.

Well, I have functioned in a capitalistic world all my life, and I don't recall ever stabbing anyone in the heart. While unrestrained capitalism is evil personified, (as demonstrated by the 2008 financial industry fiasco) capitalism in general brings brings out the best in people. Sometimes it takes a kick in the ass to make it work correctly. Hell, the CEO of Wells Fargo just agreed to forgo $41 million in bonuses, which restores my faith!

I didn't say you betrayed anyone, but when you lost a job there was another one coming down the pike; those days are gone.

Actually, I retired 6 years early because there was NOT another job coming down the pike. ACA made everything I did for a living illegal. I was VP of life and health underwriting, which made me the guy who decided who could buy insurance, and who could not. So, at age 61, I bought a cafe.

 

[SwimExpert]

Hillary Clinton on the issues

All tried and failed.
No tariffs to diminish the profits gained by leaving America.
Job training but not forcing companies in any way whatever to hire Americans.
Raising taxes on the rich...so they'll leave the US even sooner.

Somebody please explain to me how all of a sudden Directors and CEOs are going to be MOVED by these programs to all of a sudden love Americans and make America prosper.

The deficit isn't 20 trillion. The debt is.

Facts. Doy!

I stand corrected.
It's been a LOOOOOOOOOONG day.
Now please explain how Hillary's plan will reduce or eliminate it.

No one is claiming she can eliminate it. She can reduce it by cutting defense spending and closing corporate tax loopholes.

The Corporations will leave and our military will become the Keystone Cops.
I want something that will work.

Maybe we could cut taxes on rich people and undertake massive infrastructure projects. That might work.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I say double military spending and make Syria pay for it!

 

[TheOldSchool]

The deficit is like climate change. Nobody's going to care until shit hits the fan, and we'll deal with it then.

 

[Londoner]

Reagan tripled Carter's debt, Bush doubled Clinton's

(And we didn't hear a peep from people like the OP)

When you give your party a pass, you lose credibility

 

[bendog]

Hillary's plan has been scored by Independent think tanks, and over 10 years, will add $200 billion to the national debt. Trump's plan over 10 years will add $10 Trillion MORE to the National debt, making it $30 Trillion....

If you take the National Debt seriously, then you would HAVE to support Hillary and Hillary's plan, over the Donald's plan which ADDS nearly $10 Trillion more to the National Debt than her plan.

yes. Is there now some notion that Donald will reduce the debt with tariffs?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

The Corporations will leave and our military will become the Keystone Cops.
I want something that will work.

The solution is not to implement more socialist policies.

It is to reduce socialism so the country can stay competitive. You are under the misconception that more government is the answer to problems the government created.

Increasing freedom sure has done wonders for 1.7% of the our citizens.
No other nation does what the US does.
The US is the world's Winning Lottery Ticket and we can no longer afford to pay out the annual winnings.

you know what would send a really strong message to the government (but never be able to be done)
is if everyone that worked all stayed home on the same day. Show the government what it would be like if nobody was paying taxes. Shut this country down for just a day and attitudes would quickly change. That would be enough lost revenue to make even the blind see the truth.