20 states sue the fed gov because ACA is now unconstitutional

"This is not a tax"
Twenty U.S. states sue federal government seeking end to Obamacare
A coalition of 20 U.S. states sued the federal government on Monday over Obamacare, claiming the law was no longer constitutional after the repeal last year of its requirement that people have health insurance or pay a fine.

Led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, the lawsuit said that without the individual mandate, which was eliminated as part of the Republican tax law signed by President Donald Trump in December, Obamacare was unlawful.

"The U.S. Supreme Court already admitted that an individual mandate without a tax penalty is unconstitutional," Paxton said in a statement. "With no remaining legitimate basis for the law, it is time that Americans are finally free from the stranglehold of Obamacare, once and for all," he said.

Awesome. GFY you damn fascists

Ah, the stranglehold. Yes, what they need to be is fucked, so fucked that they don't have insurance. Why do they need insurance? They're not rich, no one gives a fuck if they die.

Welcome to America. Christian country. What would Jesus do? He'd tell you to get a better job and fuck off asking him for healthcare in the meantime, and then kick you in the balls.

Dear frigidweirdo
And anti-christians on the left reject Christian healing prayer
that cures CAUSES of disease for FREE to make sustainable health care affordable and accessible to all,
then yell at govt to pay for medical procedures and drugs that only treat the SYMPTOMS.

And wonder why we can't afford medical care.

Sadly, Christian healing prayer not only cures the cause of physical diseases,
such as cancer (better than marijuana that only alleviates certain symptoms)
and diabetes (that liberals blame on sugars they lobby to regulate)
but also mental and criminal disorders. So these methods cure both the cause
AND the symptoms of abuse, addictions and crime,
including mass shootings that liberals want to blame on guns.

In short, frigidweirdo, liberals yell at govt about gun violence and health care.

But the left have been lobbying to REJECT and CENSOR the very
solutions because of discrimination and demonization against CHRISTIAN beliefs and practices.

How can you have it both ways frigidweirdo
If you want health care to be free, then let's research and develop
these methods of spiritual healing that have reduced the cost and incidents of disease and crime.

You can't reject free solutions
then complain the problems are costing too much!

That's right! That's why Christians have been advocating to share the knowledge
of spiritual health and healing. It saves lives, and also money.

If you reject the cure, of course you get stuck with the ills.
And the bills!

Wow, just wow. What have you been smoking here.

Religion cures cancer better than marijuana.

I really can't believe that people in the 21st century are saying such fucking bullshit.

Dear frigidweirdo
No, I didn't say religion, I said spiritual healing.
The Templeton Fdn funded a medical study on the methods used by Dr. Francis MacNutt
and his healing team to diagnose the internal BLOCKS to natural healing in patients with RA.
Once these BLOCKS were removed, most patients experienced either partial or in some cases
full healing of their RA. Some were not affected either way. And there were ZERO negative side effects.
Only neutral or positive.

This was conducted, documented and published as a formal medical research study.

This is NOT about religion. It's actually proveable by medical science.
And it works independent of someone's religious background, affiliation or beliefs.

As a matter of personal experience, I have recommended friends (both agnostic, one Atheist and both anti-Christian) with previous drug/alcohol and self-destructive addictions to go through spiritual healing. And it still worked, although they both reject Christian religion. That is NOT required. What is used for this to work is the person agrees to receive help and prayer support to FORGIVE the past issues that were BLOCKING natural healing. So again, once those mental and spiritual obstructions in the mind are removed, the mind connects with the body and allows healing energy to flow naturally as the mind and body are designed to work together. The point is to REMOVE the blockage and restore the NATURAL healing process.

So that's how spiritual healing works. And it works WITH science, WITH medicine, WITH all other remedies and therapies that help the mind and body to recover.

The only thing I understand does not work with Christian spiritual healing is DARK energy or forces as invoked in occult, black magic, witchcraft, sorcery, voodoo, spells, curses, satanic or demonic influences, cults, etc.

This clashes with positive Christian energy and can cause backlash, disruption, and chaotic eruptions in people and relationships. The problem is similar to starting antibiotics, but not finishing them which leaves the body weak and vulnerable, and/or mixing with other incompatible substances that can cause toxic reactions.

So a person's religious affiliation doesn't have to change to receive and benefit from spiritual healing that works on strengthen the natural connection between mind and body to remove any unhealthy blockages, obstructions, addictions, or abusive disorders.

The only dangers are mixing with witchcraft/occult/black magic dark energy
or not finishing the whole process so that the person is left open to further attacks by
negative invasive influences that try to throw off the healing process. The reason for this resistance
is that the demonic forces are like parasites that live off the energy, the fear or distress of the host.
So these forces like viruses want to survive and will fight off the process of healing the person
so they can continue to feed off the host. The negative energies want the person to stay addicted and sick,
similar to how abusers want to keep their victims from getting help. That's how addictive disorders work.

So the person and their family seeking help to break free from this cycle and condition of destruction
have to keep working through the therapy until the person is completely free and clear.
Similar to taking antibiotics. The virus has to be completely killed and removed or it will come back stronger
and fight to take over the host.

The spiritual process of deliverance and exorcism works much the same way.

The other doctors who have written books on this process include Dr. Phillip Goldfedder who expanded his practice to focus on spiritual healing as a better cure than neurosurgery; and Dr. Scott Peck who wrote Glimpses of the Devil after he witnessed the before and after conditions of two schizophrenic patients he applied these methods to treating. After he observed how it worked to save their lives and return their minds back to normal condition, he wrote about these experiences and process he witnessed, and advocated for further formal medical research to develop these therapy methods to help save more people from destructive and deadly illnesses that medicine alone could not cure. The cause and cure both require spiritual process to identity and resolve. So that is the key to early diagnosis intervention and cure in cases of severe mental and even criminal illness, where medications only suppress the symptoms. Spiritual healing locates the cause and applies the cure until it works.

This isn't about religion but about natural science of mind and body and how our energy works.

Sources:
www.christianhealingmin.org
www.healingisyours.com

The problem is that it's almost certainly not "spiritual". There are many things we don't understand, and healing is one of them.

But religion and spirituality have been used as putty filler over the years for things people don't understand.
 
Can you back up your claim? How is health insurance that cost people 30% to 50% less a gift to insurance companies?
It’s a gift if it doesn’t cover anyhing. You said “not everyone needs.” Well not everyone needs coverage, until they do.

Well now you are just being stupid. Right, people will buy an insurance plan that doesn't cover anything my mistake for even speaking to you bunch of dimwits. ^^^:290968001256257790-final: alert.

If it is the only insurance policy then they may have no choice. Obamacare premiums are going higher thanks to Republicans. These plans allow companies to use pre-existing conditions and do things like setting lifetime caps on the money they will pay for.
 
"This is not a tax"
Twenty U.S. states sue federal government seeking end to Obamacare
A coalition of 20 U.S. states sued the federal government on Monday over Obamacare, claiming the law was no longer constitutional after the repeal last year of its requirement that people have health insurance or pay a fine.

Led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, the lawsuit said that without the individual mandate, which was eliminated as part of the Republican tax law signed by President Donald Trump in December, Obamacare was unlawful.

"The U.S. Supreme Court already admitted that an individual mandate without a tax penalty is unconstitutional," Paxton said in a statement. "With no remaining legitimate basis for the law, it is time that Americans are finally free from the stranglehold of Obamacare, once and for all," he said.

Awesome. GFY you damn fascists

Ah, the stranglehold. Yes, what they need to be is fucked, so fucked that they don't have insurance. Why do they need insurance? They're not rich, no one gives a fuck if they die.

Welcome to America. Christian country. What would Jesus do? He'd tell you to get a better job and fuck off asking him for healthcare in the meantime, and then kick you in the balls.
Millions of people cannot afford to pay for millions more people who cannot afford anything… Dumbass
 
I thought Obamacare was going to collapse on its own. Trump said that it’s dead and gone. So why is the GOP stacking on even more increasingly drastic strategies to kill it?
Because it forces people in the shit they do not want, will never use and cannot afford
 
"This is not a tax"
Twenty U.S. states sue federal government seeking end to Obamacare
A coalition of 20 U.S. states sued the federal government on Monday over Obamacare, claiming the law was no longer constitutional after the repeal last year of its requirement that people have health insurance or pay a fine.

Led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, the lawsuit said that without the individual mandate, which was eliminated as part of the Republican tax law signed by President Donald Trump in December, Obamacare was unlawful.

"The U.S. Supreme Court already admitted that an individual mandate without a tax penalty is unconstitutional," Paxton said in a statement. "With no remaining legitimate basis for the law, it is time that Americans are finally free from the stranglehold of Obamacare, once and for all," he said.

Awesome. GFY you damn fascists

Ah, the stranglehold. Yes, what they need to be is fucked, so fucked that they don't have insurance. Why do they need insurance? They're not rich, no one gives a fuck if they die.

Welcome to America. Christian country. What would Jesus do? He'd tell you to get a better job and fuck off asking him for healthcare in the meantime, and then kick you in the balls.

Jesus would say trust God and stop making the state your god.

He has also has already said work six days and rest on the seventh
He also said that you need to take care of those less fortunate in society...

By making them pay a tax if they can't afford healthcare?
 
"This is not a tax"
Twenty U.S. states sue federal government seeking end to Obamacare
A coalition of 20 U.S. states sued the federal government on Monday over Obamacare, claiming the law was no longer constitutional after the repeal last year of its requirement that people have health insurance or pay a fine.

Led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, the lawsuit said that without the individual mandate, which was eliminated as part of the Republican tax law signed by President Donald Trump in December, Obamacare was unlawful.

"The U.S. Supreme Court already admitted that an individual mandate without a tax penalty is unconstitutional," Paxton said in a statement. "With no remaining legitimate basis for the law, it is time that Americans are finally free from the stranglehold of Obamacare, once and for all," he said.

Awesome. GFY you damn fascists

Ah, the stranglehold. Yes, what they need to be is fucked, so fucked that they don't have insurance. Why do they need insurance? They're not rich, no one gives a fuck if they die.

Welcome to America. Christian country. What would Jesus do? He'd tell you to get a better job and fuck off asking him for healthcare in the meantime, and then kick you in the balls.

Jesus would say trust God and stop making the state your god.

He has also has already said work six days and rest on the seventh
He also said that you need to take care of those less fortunate in society...

By making them pay a tax if they can't afford healthcare?

Obamacare was hardly the right step forward.

A single payer system is the way forwards.
 
"This is not a tax"
Twenty U.S. states sue federal government seeking end to Obamacare
A coalition of 20 U.S. states sued the federal government on Monday over Obamacare, claiming the law was no longer constitutional after the repeal last year of its requirement that people have health insurance or pay a fine.

Led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, the lawsuit said that without the individual mandate, which was eliminated as part of the Republican tax law signed by President Donald Trump in December, Obamacare was unlawful.

"The U.S. Supreme Court already admitted that an individual mandate without a tax penalty is unconstitutional," Paxton said in a statement. "With no remaining legitimate basis for the law, it is time that Americans are finally free from the stranglehold of Obamacare, once and for all," he said.

Awesome. GFY you damn fascists

Ah, the stranglehold. Yes, what they need to be is fucked, so fucked that they don't have insurance. Why do they need insurance? They're not rich, no one gives a fuck if they die.

Welcome to America. Christian country. What would Jesus do? He'd tell you to get a better job and fuck off asking him for healthcare in the meantime, and then kick you in the balls.

Dear frigidweirdo
And anti-christians on the left reject Christian healing prayer
that cures CAUSES of disease for FREE to make sustainable health care affordable and accessible to all,
then yell at govt to pay for medical procedures and drugs that only treat the SYMPTOMS.

And wonder why we can't afford medical care.

Sadly, Christian healing prayer not only cures the cause of physical diseases,
such as cancer (better than marijuana that only alleviates certain symptoms)
and diabetes (that liberals blame on sugars they lobby to regulate)
but also mental and criminal disorders. So these methods cure both the cause
AND the symptoms of abuse, addictions and crime,
including mass shootings that liberals want to blame on guns.

In short, frigidweirdo, liberals yell at govt about gun violence and health care.

But the left have been lobbying to REJECT and CENSOR the very
solutions because of discrimination and demonization against CHRISTIAN beliefs and practices.

How can you have it both ways frigidweirdo
If you want health care to be free, then let's research and develop
these methods of spiritual healing that have reduced the cost and incidents of disease and crime.

You can't reject free solutions
then complain the problems are costing too much!

That's right! That's why Christians have been advocating to share the knowledge
of spiritual health and healing. It saves lives, and also money.

If you reject the cure, of course you get stuck with the ills.
And the bills!

Wow, just wow. What have you been smoking here.

Religion cures cancer better than marijuana.

I really can't believe that people in the 21st century are saying such fucking bullshit.

Dear frigidweirdo
No, I didn't say religion, I said spiritual healing.
The Templeton Fdn funded a medical study on the methods used by Dr. Francis MacNutt
and his healing team to diagnose the internal BLOCKS to natural healing in patients with RA.
Once these BLOCKS were removed, most patients experienced either partial or in some cases
full healing of their RA. Some were not affected either way. And there were ZERO negative side effects.
Only neutral or positive.

This was conducted, documented and published as a formal medical research study.

This is NOT about religion. It's actually proveable by medical science.
And it works independent of someone's religious background, affiliation or beliefs.

As a matter of personal experience, I have recommended friends (both agnostic, one Atheist and both anti-Christian) with previous drug/alcohol and self-destructive addictions to go through spiritual healing. And it still worked, although they both reject Christian religion. That is NOT required. What is used for this to work is the person agrees to receive help and prayer support to FORGIVE the past issues that were BLOCKING natural healing. So again, once those mental and spiritual obstructions in the mind are removed, the mind connects with the body and allows healing energy to flow naturally as the mind and body are designed to work together. The point is to REMOVE the blockage and restore the NATURAL healing process.

So that's how spiritual healing works. And it works WITH science, WITH medicine, WITH all other remedies and therapies that help the mind and body to recover.

The only thing I understand does not work with Christian spiritual healing is DARK energy or forces as invoked in occult, black magic, witchcraft, sorcery, voodoo, spells, curses, satanic or demonic influences, cults, etc.

This clashes with positive Christian energy and can cause backlash, disruption, and chaotic eruptions in people and relationships. The problem is similar to starting antibiotics, but not finishing them which leaves the body weak and vulnerable, and/or mixing with other incompatible substances that can cause toxic reactions.

So a person's religious affiliation doesn't have to change to receive and benefit from spiritual healing that works on strengthen the natural connection between mind and body to remove any unhealthy blockages, obstructions, addictions, or abusive disorders.

The only dangers are mixing with witchcraft/occult/black magic dark energy
or not finishing the whole process so that the person is left open to further attacks by
negative invasive influences that try to throw off the healing process. The reason for this resistance
is that the demonic forces are like parasites that live off the energy, the fear or distress of the host.
So these forces like viruses want to survive and will fight off the process of healing the person
so they can continue to feed off the host. The negative energies want the person to stay addicted and sick,
similar to how abusers want to keep their victims from getting help. That's how addictive disorders work.

So the person and their family seeking help to break free from this cycle and condition of destruction
have to keep working through the therapy until the person is completely free and clear.
Similar to taking antibiotics. The virus has to be completely killed and removed or it will come back stronger
and fight to take over the host.

The spiritual process of deliverance and exorcism works much the same way.

The other doctors who have written books on this process include Dr. Phillip Goldfedder who expanded his practice to focus on spiritual healing as a better cure than neurosurgery; and Dr. Scott Peck who wrote Glimpses of the Devil after he witnessed the before and after conditions of two schizophrenic patients he applied these methods to treating. After he observed how it worked to save their lives and return their minds back to normal condition, he wrote about these experiences and process he witnessed, and advocated for further formal medical research to develop these therapy methods to help save more people from destructive and deadly illnesses that medicine alone could not cure. The cause and cure both require spiritual process to identity and resolve. So that is the key to early diagnosis intervention and cure in cases of severe mental and even criminal illness, where medications only suppress the symptoms. Spiritual healing locates the cause and applies the cure until it works.

This isn't about religion but about natural science of mind and body and how our energy works.

Sources:
www.christianhealingmin.org
www.healingisyours.com

The problem is that it's almost certainly not "spiritual". There are many things we don't understand, and healing is one of them.

But religion and spirituality have been used as putty filler over the years for things people don't understand.
Dear frigidweirdo
So have politics, parties govt and media been abused.
Does that mean we disregard the proper effective use of these systems because of the constant abuse of them?

No, we try to use the system correctly to check against the abuses of that system.

Likewise with religious church laws and authority, fellow believers cite the correct policy to rebuke and correct wrongs that violate these laws.

And with spiritual healing, anything wrongful or destructive that obstructs or disrupts the natural healing process is discerned spiritually by applying this process. When all disrupting causes are addressed removed or resolved, then the natural healing process is restored to normal. That's how you can tell the proper diagnosis and steps are done. If not then you dig deeper to find the cause and cure.

Yes the concept of spiritual healing has been abused and twisted backwards. Science has been misapplied and abused to manipulate , and the laws and legal system under secular authority have been abused like religious authority has. The corrections still require applying science to prove where science was mispresented, to enforce the laws to prove where Injustice was committed, and to establish agreement on religious or on spiritual principles and process in order to correct abuses in those areas.

Both religious and political abuse require spiritual healing because the injuries and wounds these cause are carried in the spirit or conscience of the people affected and can affect multiple generations before being fully healed.

Because of abuses, we need to be fully informed experienced and empowered with knowledge of the laws and process governing humanity from internally and individually to externally collectively. The spiritual level is what connects us by conscience between and among these levels . Yes that knowledge and power can and has been abused and that's why it's necessary to invoke and apply these same laws consistently to correct and prevent such problems
 
"This is not a tax"
Twenty U.S. states sue federal government seeking end to Obamacare
A coalition of 20 U.S. states sued the federal government on Monday over Obamacare, claiming the law was no longer constitutional after the repeal last year of its requirement that people have health insurance or pay a fine.

Led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, the lawsuit said that without the individual mandate, which was eliminated as part of the Republican tax law signed by President Donald Trump in December, Obamacare was unlawful.

"The U.S. Supreme Court already admitted that an individual mandate without a tax penalty is unconstitutional," Paxton said in a statement. "With no remaining legitimate basis for the law, it is time that Americans are finally free from the stranglehold of Obamacare, once and for all," he said.

Awesome. GFY you damn fascists

Ah, the stranglehold. Yes, what they need to be is fucked, so fucked that they don't have insurance. Why do they need insurance? They're not rich, no one gives a fuck if they die.

Welcome to America. Christian country. What would Jesus do? He'd tell you to get a better job and fuck off asking him for healthcare in the meantime, and then kick you in the balls.

Jesus would say trust God and stop making the state your god.

He has also has already said work six days and rest on the seventh
He also said that you need to take care of those less fortunate in society...

By making them pay a tax if they can't afford healthcare?

Obamacare was hardly the right step forward.

A single payer system is the way forwards.

Even so, even if that were the best solution frigidweirdo it has to be chosen freely and agreed to by consent of the people asked to pay for it, not forced.

Preventing abortion by avoiding unwanted pregnancy is a better solution, but that can't be forced by law either. We have to agree on policies that affect free choice of abortion without penalizing people, so why not with free choice of how to pay for and provide health care?
 
"This is not a tax"
Twenty U.S. states sue federal government seeking end to Obamacare
A coalition of 20 U.S. states sued the federal government on Monday over Obamacare, claiming the law was no longer constitutional after the repeal last year of its requirement that people have health insurance or pay a fine.

Led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, the lawsuit said that without the individual mandate, which was eliminated as part of the Republican tax law signed by President Donald Trump in December, Obamacare was unlawful.

"The U.S. Supreme Court already admitted that an individual mandate without a tax penalty is unconstitutional," Paxton said in a statement. "With no remaining legitimate basis for the law, it is time that Americans are finally free from the stranglehold of Obamacare, once and for all," he said.

Awesome. GFY you damn fascists

??!!!
It was unconstitutional WITH the tax penalty!

What does this mean, it was unconstitutional either way?
With or without the penalty?

I guess that's like saying state marriage laws are unconstitutional
if they require same sex only. And unconstitutional if they require
states to recognize and endorse same sex marriages.
Because, guess what, marriage laws through the state
are already unconstitutional (unless people consent to that being law).

Laws either prohibiting or establishing Christian prayer would be unconstitutional.
Why? Because they involve a BELIEF.

Same with right to health care which is a political BELIEF.
So either way, if the govt is abused to establish a belief and penalize
people for their beliefs, that law is going to be unconstitutional.

The ACA mandates violated equal rights of people of Constitutional beliefs
and discriminated in favor of those who believes in either health care as
a right or believed that federal govt had the right to establish such a law
without first passing a Constitutional Amendment specifying this new authority.

It either violated the Constitution DIRECTLY by bypassing legislative process,
or it violated Constitutional BELIEFS of citizens, or BOTH.

So that's why it was unconstitutional on one or both counts.
And any other argument made about it falls under unconstitutionality.

As in Logic: once you make a false statement, anything you append to that
false statement or premise becomes false. Because there was already
a conflict or flaw in the original statement. Big fat duh!!!

I agree that the law was never constitutional. But the Supreme Court said it as because it’s a tax. Well the tax portion has been removed so the rest of it in theory should be shot down
I thought the issue brought to court was whether the mandate was or was not constitutional?

And the SC ruled that the MANDATE was Constitutional, because the mandate was a ''tax'', and congress can levy taxes....

I thought the case did not have anything to do with the constitutionality of the health care portion of the bill....that was addressed as always being constitutional, but the mandate was what was being challenged in court???

Was that not the case?
 
Ah, the stranglehold. Yes, what they need to be is fucked, so fucked that they don't have insurance. Why do they need insurance? They're not rich, no one gives a fuck if they die.

Welcome to America. Christian country. What would Jesus do? He'd tell you to get a better job and fuck off asking him for healthcare in the meantime, and then kick you in the balls.

Jesus would say trust God and stop making the state your god.

He has also has already said work six days and rest on the seventh
He also said that you need to take care of those less fortunate in society...

By making them pay a tax if they can't afford healthcare?

Obamacare was hardly the right step forward.

A single payer system is the way forwards.

Even so, even if that were the best solution frigidweirdo it has to be chosen freely and agreed to by consent of the people asked to pay for it, not forced.

Preventing abortion by avoiding unwanted pregnancy is a better solution, but that can't be forced by law either. We have to agree on policies that affect free choice of abortion without penalizing people, so why not with free choice of how to pay for and provide health care?

Free choice?

What if I want a system where I know I'll get healthcare whatever? Oh, I don't get that choice.

My only choice is to choose an insurance company which I know is going to fuck me over.

Great choice.

In the UK you can choose between single player or private. That's choice.
 
A perfect example of the liberal mindset: If something is not being forced on people, it's useless! This shows that liberals know that most people won't sign up for Obamacare if they have a choice.

If Obama had kept has often-repeated campaign promise that his health care plan would be VOLUNTARY for adults, Obamacare would have been far less controversial and problematic.
 

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