2000 People on "Terror Watch List" able to buy guns!

[JoeB131]

Yeah, and nobody had a choice after that, huh?

The rich pay their fair share, in fact they pay more than their fair share. The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay almost 70% of all federal income taxes. How much more should they pay?

Guy, Federal income taxes are only about 48% of the federal government's revenues. The rest come from things the rest of us pay.

More to the point, the top 20% control 87% of the wealth in this country. They aren't paying anywhere NEAR their fair share.

 

[Clementine]

No, our gun laws aren't even a little bit crazy. Remember, Wingnuts, keep pissing yourselves over 3 year olds from Syria... because this isn't something to worry about at all.


From 2004 to 2014, over 2,000 terror suspects legally purchased guns in the United States

Given France's strict gun laws, the terrorists who attacked Paris on Friday may have turned to black market sources for the weapons they used. But in the United States, known and suspected terrorists are allowed to purchase firearms under federal law.

"Membership in a terrorist organization does not prohibit a person from possessing firearms or explosives under current federal law," the Government Accountability Office concluded in 2010. The law prohibits felons, fugitives, drug addicts and domestic abusers from purchasing a firearm in the United States. But people on the FBI's consolidated terrorist watchlist — typically placed there when there is "reasonable suspicion" that they are a known or suspected terrorist — can freely purchase handguns or assault-style rifles.

And, as the GAO found, a number of them do: Between 2004 and 2014, suspected terrorists attempted to purchase guns from American dealers at least 2,233 times. And in 2,043 of those cases — 91 percent of the time — they succeeded.

Well, why hasn't the Obama administration added terror suspects to the list? Haven't even heard it bought up till now.

Obama seems more interested in removing Muslim groups from the watch list, like the Muslim Brotherhood and others that he sees as legitimate groups rather than terrorist groups. We shouldn't even allow them in.

Funny that the left is worried about them getting guns but not worried that they get here in the first place.

 

[Rustic]

Yeah, and nobody had a choice after that, huh?

The rich pay their fair share, in fact they pay more than their fair share. The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay almost 70% of all federal income taxes. How much more should they pay?

Guy, Federal income taxes are only about 48% of the federal government's revenues. The rest come from things the rest of us pay.

More to the point, the top 20% control 87% of the wealth in this country. They aren't paying anywhere NEAR their fair share.

Who's business is it who makes how much?? Dumba$$

By the way, have you visited that gynecologist yet??

 

[JoeB131]

Well, why hasn't the Obama administration added terror suspects to the list? Haven't even heard it bought up till now.

Obama seems more interested in removing Muslim groups from the watch list, like the Muslim Brotherhood and others that he sees as legitimate groups rather than terrorist groups. We shouldn't even allow them in.

Funny that the left is worried about them getting guns but not worried that they get here in the first place.

Okay, let's get real here. How many "refugees" have been involved in terrorist incidents?

Well, the Boston Bombers, I guess. Of course, they didn't get radicalized until they got here.

Most people who've been involved of acts of terror have been born here or have lived here since they were children and became radicalized.

Frankly, I see too problems where.

First, you have a watch list that is so large it's meaningless. We do not have 700,000 potential terrorists in this country.

Second, it's way too easy for potential terrorists, crimnals and crazy people go get guns.

 

[Rustic]

Well, why hasn't the Obama administration added terror suspects to the list? Haven't even heard it bought up till now.

Obama seems more interested in removing Muslim groups from the watch list, like the Muslim Brotherhood and others that he sees as legitimate groups rather than terrorist groups. We shouldn't even allow them in.

Funny that the left is worried about them getting guns but not worried that they get here in the first place.

Okay, let's get real here. How many "refugees" have been involved in terrorist incidents?

Well, the Boston Bombers, I guess. Of course, they didn't get radicalized until they got here.

Most people who've been involved of acts of terror have been born here or have lived here since they were children and became radicalized.

Frankly, I see too problems where.

First, you have a watch list that is so large it's meaningless. We do not have 700,000 potential terrorists in this country.

Second, it's way too easy for potential terrorists, crimnals and crazy people go get guns.

Appease much??

 

[JoeB131]

Rustic, you realize everyone has you on ignore an no one reads your posts, right?

 

[Rustic]

Rustic, you realize everyone has you on ignore an no one reads your posts, right?

Who are you then??

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yeah, and nobody had a choice after that, huh?

The rich pay their fair share, in fact they pay more than their fair share. The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay almost 70% of all federal income taxes. How much more should they pay?

Guy, Federal income taxes are only about 48% of the federal government's revenues. The rest come from things the rest of us pay.

More to the point, the top 20% control 87% of the wealth in this country. They aren't paying anywhere NEAR their fair share.

How much money they have is irrelevant. So answer the question: if 70% of all collected income taxes is not enough for them to pay, what should they be paying?

If you tax people at 0%, the federal government collects 0 dollars. If you tax people at 100%, the federal government still collects 0 dollars because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

 

[flacaltenn]

No, the reason why Fed Ex and Master card are so good is because they are not government.

Obviously, you've never dealt with Fed Ex when they lose a package or Master Card when they make a mistake on your billing. Otherwise, you wouldn't say stupid shit like that.

And what's with all this NRA nonsense? Didn't your fearless leader have a Democrat leadership in both houses after he became President? Or is DumBama in bed with the NRA too?

Yeah, they were a little too busy fixing what Bush fucked up to actually fix the messed up gun laws.

Dude. My mail goes to my neighbors almost once a week. I've NEVER had Fedex or UPS lose or mishandle a package and I run an active engineering company. You had Mohammed Attah get his VISA renewed AFTER he flew a plane into the WTC..

Govt attempts TOO much and does NOTHING well.. Including terror watch lists. Which is why your OP is largely dead..

 

[Bob Blaylock]

THERE ARE NO VALID FEDERAL GUN LAWS. NONE.

You're wrong. There is one, and only one, valid federal gun law. That would be the Second Amendment.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

trump defended this saying the people on that list may not be on there for a good reason.......i swear you cant make this shit up

And until you can show that each and every person on that list was only put on there as a matter of due process of law, in which he was proven beyond a reasonable doubt before a jury of his peers to be guilty of terrorist-related crimes, Mr. Trump would be absolutely correct.

There can be no excuse at all for denying any citizen any of his essential Constitutional rights, without proper due process of law.

 

[gipper]

Use them both often and NEVER had a problem.

Now dealing with government, is always a problem.

I'm sure it's probably the attitude you have when you come in to a government office. They probably snicker to themselves and say, "Let's fuck with this guy."

Gov workers is a misnomer and they generally don't think...sorta like you.

 

[PredFan]

No, our gun laws aren't even a little bit crazy. Remember, Wingnuts, keep pissing yourselves over 3 year olds from Syria... because this isn't something to worry about at all.


From 2004 to 2014, over 2,000 terror suspects legally purchased guns in the United States

Given France's strict gun laws, the terrorists who attacked Paris on Friday may have turned to black market sources for the weapons they used. But in the United States, known and suspected terrorists are allowed to purchase firearms under federal law.

"Membership in a terrorist organization does not prohibit a person from possessing firearms or explosives under current federal law," the Government Accountability Office concluded in 2010. The law prohibits felons, fugitives, drug addicts and domestic abusers from purchasing a firearm in the United States. But people on the FBI's consolidated terrorist watchlist — typically placed there when there is "reasonable suspicion" that they are a known or suspected terrorist — can freely purchase handguns or assault-style rifles.

And, as the GAO found, a number of them do: Between 2004 and 2014, suspected terrorists attempted to purchase guns from American dealers at least 2,233 times. And in 2,043 of those cases — 91 percent of the time — they succeeded.

Yeah so what? Your attempt fails to make a legitimate point.

 

[JoeB131]

How much money they have is irrelevant. So answer the question: if 70% of all collected income taxes is not enough for them to pay, what should they be paying?

If you tax people at 0%, the federal government collects 0 dollars. If you tax people at 100%, the federal government still collects 0 dollars because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

Guy, the top marginal rate under that Communist, Dwight D. Eisenhower, was 93%.

Lots of wealth was created, mostly because our unionized workforce was making a good living and we never had greater prosperity.

You see, the delusion you have is that you mistake Rich Parasites for vital organs. The rich don't create wealth. Working people create wealth. Capital is the measure of labor. All the wealthy do is divide up the pie, and if they aren't watched, they divide it up in their favor, which is why the top 20% have 87% of the wealth, even though they did NOT do 87% of the labor to create it.

 

[JoeB131]

Gov workers is a misnomer and they generally don't think...sorta like you.

You probably wouldn't last a week in a government job. Or any kind of job, for that matter.

 

[tyroneweaver]

"2000 People on "Terror Watch List" able to buy guys!"
Male prostitution?

Whoops. You got me.

Busted, huh???
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I hear alot of good things about this guy in his private life.

 

[tyroneweaver]

How are terrorist getting weapons, if we have all these back ground checks?

 

[JoeB131]

How are terrorist getting weapons, if we have all these back ground checks?

Being a terrorist isn't a block to getting a gun thanks to the NRA. Read the OP.

 

[2aguy]

How much money they have is irrelevant. So answer the question: if 70% of all collected income taxes is not enough for them to pay, what should they be paying?

If you tax people at 0%, the federal government collects 0 dollars. If you tax people at 100%, the federal government still collects 0 dollars because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

Guy, the top marginal rate under that Communist, Dwight D. Eisenhower, was 93%.

Lots of wealth was created, mostly because our unionized workforce was making a good living and we never had greater prosperity.

You see, the delusion you have is that you mistake Rich Parasites for vital organs. The rich don't create wealth. Working people create wealth. Capital is the measure of labor. All the wealthy do is divide up the pie, and if they aren't watched, they divide it up in their favor, which is why the top 20% have 87% of the wealth, even though they did NOT do 87% of the labor to create it.

Nope….the reason our country didn't sink under that tax rate is the fact that the industrial base of the rest of the world was bombed into nonexistence during the war……..

That you guys worship government is depressing…...

 

[2aguy]

How are terrorist getting weapons, if we have all these back ground checks?

Being a terrorist isn't a block to getting a gun thanks to the NRA. Read the OP.

No one on the list is a terrorist…that takes an actual action and then an arrest…that list is created by government bureaucrats, not judges and their is no way to appeal it…….

Trusting that list with the denial of gun rights is like trusting the IRS with the tax status of conservative political groups….not going to happen.