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2000 People on "Terror Watch List" able to buy guns!

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Yeah.. Real difficult for a guy IN THE ARMY -- to get access to guns. Army hasn't done SHIT about their over-zealous pursuit of political correctness. And in THAT case -- it got folks killed.

It wasn't political correctness that was the problem, guy. It was that the Army protects officers and wasn't letting anyone out for some silly reason like they thought the war was stupid.

This is when the Army was lowering it standards to take in felons, were calling back guys who had completed their service, and were rotating the same National Guard units for the fourth time through theater.

That's why generally, myself and others, do not trust the Feds to operate a process that can deny rights. Not guns, not voting, not speech. Because they are INEPT and UNACCOUNTABLE. Let Fedex or MasterCard run the Instant Check program and you'll see a lot less high profile screw-ups. Screw-ups that consistently get people killed. Like the S.C. idiot who shot up a church. HAD a very arrest prior for a drug violation that slipped thru the cracks on a gun buy. Because the relationship between Feds and locals is dominated by two groups of bureaucrats who NEVER GET DISCIPLINED or FIRED for screw-ups..

you see, this is where you are a little bit confused. The reason why the check system is so bad is because the NRA doesn't want it to be effective. So you get craziness like if your background check isn't finished in three days the sale can go through, regardless.

So we go back to my solution. You make the gun owners responsible. The reason why Fed Ex and Mastercard are so good at running their programs is because they take a financial and liability hit if they get it wrong.

No, the reason why Fed Ex and Master card are so good is because they are not government.

And what's with all this NRA nonsense? Didn't your fearless leader have a Democrat leadership in both houses after he became President? Or is DumBama in bed with the NRA too?
 
No, the reason why Fed Ex and Master card are so good is because they are not government.

Obviously, you've never dealt with Fed Ex when they lose a package or Master Card when they make a mistake on your billing. Otherwise, you wouldn't say stupid shit like that.

And what's with all this NRA nonsense? Didn't your fearless leader have a Democrat leadership in both houses after he became President? Or is DumBama in bed with the NRA too?

Yeah, they were a little too busy fixing what Bush fucked up to actually fix the messed up gun laws.
 
No, the reason why Fed Ex and Master card are so good is because they are not government.

Obviously, you've never dealt with Fed Ex when they lose a package or Master Card when they make a mistake on your billing. Otherwise, you wouldn't say stupid shit like that.

And what's with all this NRA nonsense? Didn't your fearless leader have a Democrat leadership in both houses after he became President? Or is DumBama in bed with the NRA too?

Yeah, they were a little too busy fixing what Bush fucked up to actually fix the messed up gun laws.

Oh, that's right, too busy fixing Bush's mess. You mean Bush was responsible for people not having healthcare insurance? Because that's what they spent all their time on.

Mastercard and FedEx are not 19 trillion dollars in debt. Government is.
 
Oh, that's right, too busy fixing Bush's mess. You mean Bush was responsible for people not having healthcare insurance? Because that's what they spent all their time on.

Mastercard and FedEx are not 19 trillion dollars in debt. Government is.

Yes, and how much of that debt is due to Republicans fighting wars and putting them on credit cards so they can give tax cuts to the rich.

Let's try to keep on the top, okay guy.
 
Oh, that's right, too busy fixing Bush's mess. You mean Bush was responsible for people not having healthcare insurance? Because that's what they spent all their time on.

Mastercard and FedEx are not 19 trillion dollars in debt. Government is.

Yes, and how much of that debt is due to Republicans fighting wars and putting them on credit cards so they can give tax cuts to the rich.

Let's try to keep on the top, okay guy.

I see, so what you're saying is Commie Care is paid for? The Pork Bill is paid for? Cash for Clunkers is paid for?

Everything we spend gets put on the credit card. That's why we have to increase the debt ceiling all the time.
 
Oh, that's right, too busy fixing Bush's mess. You mean Bush was responsible for people not having healthcare insurance? Because that's what they spent all their time on.

Mastercard and FedEx are not 19 trillion dollars in debt. Government is.

Yes, and how much of that debt is due to Republicans fighting wars and putting them on credit cards so they can give tax cuts to the rich.

Let's try to keep on the top, okay guy.

I see, so what you're saying is Commie Care is paid for? The Pork Bill is paid for? Cash for Clunkers is paid for?

Everything we spend gets put on the credit card. That's why we have to increase the debt ceiling all the time.
Ray,
You are trying to reason with a liberal. It can't be done regardless of how many facts you present...
 
I see, so what you're saying is Commie Care is paid for? The Pork Bill is paid for? Cash for Clunkers is paid for?

Everything we spend gets put on the credit card. That's why we have to increase the debt ceiling all the time.

If the rich paid their fair share, we could pay for these things. We didn't have deficit problems until Ronnie Ray-gun came along.
 
Ray,
You are trying to reason with a liberal. It can't be done regardless of how many facts you present...

You morons don't have "facts". You have the bile the one-percenters give you because most of you are too stupid to vote for your own best interest.

You cling to your guns and your bibles and think you are "Free".
 
Ray,
You are trying to reason with a liberal. It can't be done regardless of how many facts you present...

You morons don't have "facts". You have the bile the one-percenters give you because most of you are too stupid to vote for your own best interest.

You cling to your guns and your bibles and think you are "Free".

Well maybe the problem is we have too many people that DO vote for their own self-interest. Maybe, just maybe, if people would vote for the good of the country instead of the good for themselves, we might not be 19 trillion dollars in debt today.
 
I see, so what you're saying is Commie Care is paid for? The Pork Bill is paid for? Cash for Clunkers is paid for?

Everything we spend gets put on the credit card. That's why we have to increase the debt ceiling all the time.

If the rich paid their fair share, we could pay for these things. We didn't have deficit problems until Ronnie Ray-gun came along.

Yeah, and nobody had a choice after that, huh?

The rich pay their fair share, in fact they pay more than their fair share. The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay almost 70% of all federal income taxes. How much more should they pay?
 
No, our gun laws aren't even a little bit crazy. Remember, Wingnuts, keep pissing yourselves over 3 year olds from Syria... because this isn't something to worry about at all.


From 2004 to 2014, over 2,000 terror suspects legally purchased guns in the United States

Given France's strict gun laws, the terrorists who attacked Paris on Friday may have turned to black market sources for the weapons they used. But in the United States, known and suspected terrorists are allowed to purchase firearms under federal law.

"Membership in a terrorist organization does not prohibit a person from possessing firearms or explosives under current federal law," the Government Accountability Office concluded in 2010. The law prohibits felons, fugitives, drug addicts and domestic abusers from purchasing a firearm in the United States. But people on the FBI's consolidated terrorist watchlist — typically placed there when there is "reasonable suspicion" that they are a known or suspected terrorist — can freely purchase handguns or assault-style rifles.

And, as the GAO found, a number of them do: Between 2004 and 2014, suspected terrorists attempted to purchase guns from American dealers at least 2,233 times. And in 2,043 of those cases — 91 percent of the time — they succeeded.



THERE ARE NO VALID FEDERAL GUN LAWS. NONE.

THE ONLY TERROR SUSPECTS THAT I KNOW OF ARE THE FBI, DEA, BATF, AND THE ENTIRE FEDERAL DOMESTIC PARAMILITARY FORCE.


OR TRY TO CONVINCE ME THAT IT WAS DAESCH, ISIS, WHO TERRORIZED , AND THEN INCINERATED THE DAVIDIANS.


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No, the reason why Fed Ex and Master card are so good is because they are not government.

Obviously, you've never dealt with Fed Ex when they lose a package or Master Card when they make a mistake on your billing. Otherwise, you wouldn't say stupid shit like that.

And what's with all this NRA nonsense? Didn't your fearless leader have a Democrat leadership in both houses after he became President? Or is DumBama in bed with the NRA too?

Yeah, they were a little too busy fixing what Bush fucked up to actually fix the messed up gun laws.
Use them both often and NEVER had a problem.

Now dealing with government, is always a problem.
 
trump defended this saying the people on that list may not be on there for a good reason.......i swear you cant make this shit up

There are over a million Americans on the watch list, that is 1 in 300. Do you Communists REALLY think that 1 in 300 Americans is a terrorist?

LOOK OUT, ONE IS UNDER YOUR BED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Well maybe the problem is we have too many people that DO vote for their own self-interest. Maybe, just maybe, if people would vote for the good of the country instead of the good for themselves, we might not be 19 trillion dollars in debt today.

That's probably the most retarded thing you've said yet.

No truly.

Spoken like a guy who bends over for the rich and doesn't even expect a reach-around.
 
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