2011 9th Warmest Year in Satellite Record

[saveliberty]

Poor Fritzy, not a single scientific fact to back his opinion with, just has to resort to mindless flapyap.

He was just trying to reach you on your level.

 

[Old Rocks]

And when are you going to post something other than drivel?

 

[ScienceRocks]

January was one of the coldest January's globally in the past 2 and a half decades! Holy shit!!!

If things are still going down hill in 5 years. I'd put global warming a sleep!

 

[skookerasbil]

january was one of the coldest january's globally in the past 2 and a half decades! Holy shit!!!

If things are still going down hill in 5 years. I'd put global warming a sleep!

consensus fail

 

[saveliberty]

And when are you going to post something other than drivel?

That is what your Faither threads are is drivel. You're just reaping what you sowed.

 

[westwall]

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

Meltwater from Asia's peaks is much less then previously estimated, but lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern

Damian Carrington
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 8 February 2012 13.10 EST


The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows | Environment | The Guardian

Hey Westwall............look who's back!!!! ^^^^

I told you........guy is making almost daily appearances these days!!!

Yes, it seems that every time a AGW position is tested it fails. Not a very good track record. I think they are batting around .009, not very good in the realms of science and catastrophic in baseball!

 

[skookerasbil]

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

Meltwater from Asia's peaks is much less then previously estimated, but lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern

Damian Carrington
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 8 February 2012 13.10 EST


The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows | Environment | The Guardian

Hey Westwall............look who's back!!!! ^^^^

I told you........guy is making almost daily appearances these days!!!

Yes, it seems that every time a AGW position is tested it fails. Not a very good track record. I think they are batting around .009, not very good in the realms of science and catastrophic in baseball!

Ive been follwing this stuff for close to 15 years West..........and for awhile in the mid 2000's, things were looking bleak.


But not anymore.............

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

2011 9th Warmest Year in Satellite Record
January 4th, 2012 at 10:16 pm by Jim Spencer under Weather
2011 9th Warmest Year in Satellite Record | KXAN.com Blogs
Global Temperature Report: December 2011

That's another way of saying "temperatures have been flat."

Even assuming that 9 of the top 10 temps being from the last decade means that temps have been "flat" for a decade, shouldn't they be cooling? Isn't a warm cycle supposed to be followed by a cool cycle? There hasn't been a cooling cycle for 100 years! Each warm cycle has been followed by a flat cycle that was followed by a new warm cycle that begins about the same place the old warm cycle left off. What has happened to the natural cooling cycles????

I like warm weather. Chicago sucked with a mile of ice on top of it.
That might be the only way to end the corruption here.......hmmmmmm.

 

[RollingThunder]

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

Meltwater from Asia's peaks is much less then previously estimated, but lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern

Damian Carrington
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 8 February 2012 13.10 EST

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows | Environment | The Guardian

LOLOLOL......oh kookster, you funny little retard, do you ever actually read what you post or do you just cut and paste from denier cult blogs without even trying to understand what is actually being said? LOLOL.

The scientists say that the highest mountains in the Himalayas seem to be accumulating more ice from increased snowfall, rather than losing ice mass as much as was previously estimated. They also said this other stuff that you must want to ignore:

(excerpts from your linked article)

However, the scientist who led the new work is clear that while greater uncertainty has been discovered in Asia's highest mountains, the melting of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern. "Our results and those of everyone else show we are losing a huge amount of water into the oceans every year," said Prof John Wahr of the University of Colorado. "People should be just as worried about the melting of the world's ice as they were before." His team's study, published in the journal Nature, concludes that between 443-629bn tonnes of meltwater overall are added to the world's oceans each year. This is raising sea level by about 1.5mm a year, the team reports, in addition to the 2mm a year caused by expansion of the warming ocean.

The scientists are careful to point out that lower-altitude glaciers in the Asian mountain ranges – sometimes dubbed the "third pole" – are definitely melting. Satellite images and reports confirm this. But over the study period from 2003-10 enough ice was added to the peaks to compensate. Bristol University glaciologist Prof Jonathan Bamber, who was not part of the research team, said:: "The new data does not mean that concerns about climate change are overblown in any way. It means there is a much larger uncertainty in high mountain Asia than we thought. Taken globally all the observations of the Earth's ice – permafrost, Arctic sea ice, snow cover and glaciers – are going in the same direction."


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[saveliberty]

Talk about cult cut and paste, Rolling Thunder is a serious contender. Problem with you doom and gloomers is, your predictions never come true.

 

[Ernie S.]

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

Meltwater from Asia's peaks is much less then previously estimated, but lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern

Damian Carrington
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 8 February 2012 13.10 EST

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows | Environment | The Guardian

LOLOLOL......oh kookster, you funny little retard, do you ever actually read what you post or do you just cut and paste from denier cult blogs without even trying to understand what is actually being said? LOLOL.

The scientists say that the highest mountains in the Himalayas seem to be accumulating more ice from increased snowfall, rather than losing ice mass as much as was previously estimated. They also said this other stuff that you must want to ignore:

(excerpts from your linked article)

However, the scientist who led the new work is clear that while greater uncertainty has been discovered in Asia's highest mountains, the melting of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern. "Our results and those of everyone else show we are losing a huge amount of water into the oceans every year," said Prof John Wahr of the University of Colorado. "People should be just as worried about the melting of the world's ice as they were before." His team's study, published in the journal Nature, concludes that between 443-629bn tonnes of meltwater overall are added to the world's oceans each year. This is raising sea level by about 1.5mm a year, the team reports, in addition to the 2mm a year caused by expansion of the warming ocean.

The scientists are careful to point out that lower-altitude glaciers in the Asian mountain ranges – sometimes dubbed the "third pole" – are definitely melting. Satellite images and reports confirm this. But over the study period from 2003-10 enough ice was added to the peaks to compensate. Bristol University glaciologist Prof Jonathan Bamber, who was not part of the research team, said:: "The new data does not mean that concerns about climate change are overblown in any way. It means there is a much larger uncertainty in high mountain Asia than we thought. Taken globally all the observations of the Earth's ice – permafrost, Arctic sea ice, snow cover and glaciers – are going in the same direction."


***

So, tell me. If polar ice is melting, how come the sea level is decreasing?

Explain that for us OK?

 

[saveliberty]

So, tell me. If polar ice is melting, how come the sea level is decreasing?

Explain that for us OK?

Whale bellysmackers.

 

[Old Rocks]

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

Meltwater from Asia's peaks is much less then previously estimated, but lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern

Damian Carrington
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 8 February 2012 13.10 EST

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows | Environment | The Guardian

LOLOLOL......oh kookster, you funny little retard, do you ever actually read what you post or do you just cut and paste from denier cult blogs without even trying to understand what is actually being said? LOLOL.

The scientists say that the highest mountains in the Himalayas seem to be accumulating more ice from increased snowfall, rather than losing ice mass as much as was previously estimated. They also said this other stuff that you must want to ignore:

(excerpts from your linked article)

However, the scientist who led the new work is clear that while greater uncertainty has been discovered in Asia's highest mountains, the melting of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern. "Our results and those of everyone else show we are losing a huge amount of water into the oceans every year," said Prof John Wahr of the University of Colorado. "People should be just as worried about the melting of the world's ice as they were before." His team's study, published in the journal Nature, concludes that between 443-629bn tonnes of meltwater overall are added to the world's oceans each year. This is raising sea level by about 1.5mm a year, the team reports, in addition to the 2mm a year caused by expansion of the warming ocean.

The scientists are careful to point out that lower-altitude glaciers in the Asian mountain ranges – sometimes dubbed the "third pole" – are definitely melting. Satellite images and reports confirm this. But over the study period from 2003-10 enough ice was added to the peaks to compensate. Bristol University glaciologist Prof Jonathan Bamber, who was not part of the research team, said:: "The new data does not mean that concerns about climate change are overblown in any way. It means there is a much larger uncertainty in high mountain Asia than we thought. Taken globally all the observations of the Earth's ice – permafrost, Arctic sea ice, snow cover and glaciers – are going in the same direction."


***

So, tell me. If polar ice is melting, how come the sea level is decreasing?

Explain that for us OK?

Because it is not. Because you are either believing obese junkies on the radio, or undergreed, ex-TV weathermen.

Sea Level Trends

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

Meltwater from Asia's peaks is much less then previously estimated, but lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern

Damian Carrington
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 8 February 2012 13.10 EST

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows | Environment | The Guardian

LOLOLOL......oh kookster, you funny little retard, do you ever actually read what you post or do you just cut and paste from denier cult blogs without even trying to understand what is actually being said? LOLOL.

The scientists say that the highest mountains in the Himalayas seem to be accumulating more ice from increased snowfall, rather than losing ice mass as much as was previously estimated. They also said this other stuff that you must want to ignore:

(excerpts from your linked article)

However, the scientist who led the new work is clear that while greater uncertainty has been discovered in Asia's highest mountains, the melting of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern. "Our results and those of everyone else show we are losing a huge amount of water into the oceans every year," said Prof John Wahr of the University of Colorado. "People should be just as worried about the melting of the world's ice as they were before." His team's study, published in the journal Nature, concludes that between 443-629bn tonnes of meltwater overall are added to the world's oceans each year. This is raising sea level by about 1.5mm a year, the team reports, in addition to the 2mm a year caused by expansion of the warming ocean.

The scientists are careful to point out that lower-altitude glaciers in the Asian mountain ranges – sometimes dubbed the "third pole" – are definitely melting. Satellite images and reports confirm this. But over the study period from 2003-10 enough ice was added to the peaks to compensate. Bristol University glaciologist Prof Jonathan Bamber, who was not part of the research team, said:: "The new data does not mean that concerns about climate change are overblown in any way. It means there is a much larger uncertainty in high mountain Asia than we thought. Taken globally all the observations of the Earth's ice – permafrost, Arctic sea ice, snow cover and glaciers – are going in the same direction."


***

So, tell me. If polar ice is melting, how come the sea level is decreasing?

Explain that for us OK?

the switch from El Niño to La Niña conditions in the Pacific.

So where does all that extra water in Brazil and Australia come from? You guessed it--the ocean. Each year, huge amounts of water are evaporated from the ocean. While most of it falls right back into the ocean as rain, some of it falls over land. "This year, the continents got an extra dose of rain, so much so that global sea levels actually fell over most of the last year," says Carmen Boening, a JPL oceanographer and climate scientist. Boening and colleagues presented these results recently at the annual Grace Science Team Meeting in Austin, Texas.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-262

 

[code1211]

That may be true and probably is, but the example you cited about the shoreline was not a logical conclusion given the data.

Of course it is as the only thing changing is the amount of water vapor in the air.

Not true.

One of the pre-Columbian civilizations that lived in the high mountains farmed and did so with what was regarded as a very strange type of irrigation. Raised beds in which the crops were planted surrounded by moats of water.

It turns out that the moats of water observed heat during the day and radiated it during the night. This prevented the crops from freezing as the temperature dropped during the night in the high, dry cold of the mountains.

Water warms more slowly than the land and retains and radiates the heat. Talking about liquid water. Liquid water can act on the air without becoming water vapor.

No single cause is responsible for climate unless that cause is the Sun.

 

[code1211]

LOLOLOL......oh kookster, you funny little retard, do you ever actually read what you post or do you just cut and paste from denier cult blogs without even trying to understand what is actually being said? LOLOL.

The scientists say that the highest mountains in the Himalayas seem to be accumulating more ice from increased snowfall, rather than losing ice mass as much as was previously estimated. They also said this other stuff that you must want to ignore:

(excerpts from your linked article)

However, the scientist who led the new work is clear that while greater uncertainty has been discovered in Asia's highest mountains, the melting of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern. "Our results and those of everyone else show we are losing a huge amount of water into the oceans every year," said Prof John Wahr of the University of Colorado. "People should be just as worried about the melting of the world's ice as they were before." His team's study, published in the journal Nature, concludes that between 443-629bn tonnes of meltwater overall are added to the world's oceans each year. This is raising sea level by about 1.5mm a year, the team reports, in addition to the 2mm a year caused by expansion of the warming ocean.

The scientists are careful to point out that lower-altitude glaciers in the Asian mountain ranges – sometimes dubbed the "third pole" – are definitely melting. Satellite images and reports confirm this. But over the study period from 2003-10 enough ice was added to the peaks to compensate. Bristol University glaciologist Prof Jonathan Bamber, who was not part of the research team, said:: "The new data does not mean that concerns about climate change are overblown in any way. It means there is a much larger uncertainty in high mountain Asia than we thought. Taken globally all the observations of the Earth's ice – permafrost, Arctic sea ice, snow cover and glaciers – are going in the same direction."


***

So, tell me. If polar ice is melting, how come the sea level is decreasing?

Explain that for us OK?

Because it is not. Because you are either believing obese junkies on the radio, or undergreed, ex-TV weathermen.

Sea Level Trends

Please link to an article with pictures of any continental coastline with photos from about 1850 and photos of today to show the encroaching seas.

At the rate of rise you espouse, the rise of the sea level should have been 1 foot vertical.

I would be interested in seeing the effect of the 1 foot rise in Miami, Houston, London, Rio, or any other major coastal city with documented coastal regions.

I'll wait.

 

[saveliberty]

Your discounting fog machines code1211.

 

[Old Rocks]

That may be true and probably is, but the example you cited about the shoreline was not a logical conclusion given the data.

Of course it is as the only thing changing is the amount of water vapor in the air.

Not true.

One of the pre-Columbian civilizations that lived in the high mountains farmed and did so with what was regarded as a very strange type of irrigation. Raised beds in which the crops were planted surrounded by moats of water.

It turns out that the moats of water observed heat during the day and radiated it during the night. This prevented the crops from freezing as the temperature dropped during the night in the high, dry cold of the mountains.

Water warms more slowly than the land and retains and radiates the heat. Talking about liquid water. Liquid water can act on the air without becoming water vapor.

No single cause is responsible for climate unless that cause is the Sun.

Hmm..... So the normal GHGs have no effect? CO2 does nothing?

A23A

Actually, as you well know, Code, there are two driving factors on long term climate, energy recieved from the sun, and energy retained. But you are not paid to bring that up.

 

[Old Rocks]

So, tell me. If polar ice is melting, how come the sea level is decreasing?

Explain that for us OK?

Because it is not. Because you are either believing obese junkies on the radio, or undergreed, ex-TV weathermen.

Sea Level Trends

Please link to an article with pictures of any continental coastline with photos from about 1850 and photos of today to show the encroaching seas.

At the rate of rise you espouse, the rise of the sea level should have been 1 foot vertical.

I would be interested in seeing the effect of the 12 foot rise in Miami, Houston, London, Rio, or any other major coastal city with documented coastal regains.

I'll wait.

A less intelligent reply than usual, Code. But we do have tidal gauge records back to 1850 or even further.

 

[Ernie S.]

LOLOLOL......oh kookster, you funny little retard, do you ever actually read what you post or do you just cut and paste from denier cult blogs without even trying to understand what is actually being said? LOLOL.

The scientists say that the highest mountains in the Himalayas seem to be accumulating more ice from increased snowfall, rather than losing ice mass as much as was previously estimated. They also said this other stuff that you must want to ignore:

(excerpts from your linked article)

However, the scientist who led the new work is clear that while greater uncertainty has been discovered in Asia's highest mountains, the melting of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern. "Our results and those of everyone else show we are losing a huge amount of water into the oceans every year," said Prof John Wahr of the University of Colorado. "People should be just as worried about the melting of the world's ice as they were before." His team's study, published in the journal Nature, concludes that between 443-629bn tonnes of meltwater overall are added to the world's oceans each year. This is raising sea level by about 1.5mm a year, the team reports, in addition to the 2mm a year caused by expansion of the warming ocean.

The scientists are careful to point out that lower-altitude glaciers in the Asian mountain ranges – sometimes dubbed the "third pole" – are definitely melting. Satellite images and reports confirm this. But over the study period from 2003-10 enough ice was added to the peaks to compensate. Bristol University glaciologist Prof Jonathan Bamber, who was not part of the research team, said:: "The new data does not mean that concerns about climate change are overblown in any way. It means there is a much larger uncertainty in high mountain Asia than we thought. Taken globally all the observations of the Earth's ice – permafrost, Arctic sea ice, snow cover and glaciers – are going in the same direction."


***

So, tell me. If polar ice is melting, how come the sea level is decreasing?

Explain that for us OK?

Because it is not. Because you are either believing obese junkies on the radio, or undergreed, ex-TV weathermen.

Sea Level Trends

Not according to what I read. I'll go with my source. Your's have proven unreliable, dishonest and prejudiced.