2015 hottest year ever, 15 of 16 hottest years since 2001...

[Old Rocks]

Really? We have already had a reduction in the TSI, and the last two years were the warmest on record. Looks to me like the projected reduction might slow the warming a little, but will hardly cancel it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Really? We have already had a reduction in the TSI, and the last two years were the warmest on record. Looks to me like the projected reduction might slow the warming a little, but will hardly cancel it.

Maybe the oceans released some of that heat they've been hiding?
We could reduce our CO2 emissions to zero, drop our CO2 back to 280 ppm and the ocean could fuck us all up by cooling a bit, making our atmosphere even warmer. Wouldn't that be hilarious if we crippled our economies, did everything the greenies want and the ocean goes and melts our ice caps right out from under us.

 

[Old Rocks]

Do you really think that we are seeing the effects of the GHGs in the atmosphere at present? What we are seeing is the effects of the GHGs from three to five decades ago. So yes, it is possible that we may lower the emissions, only to find that we crossed the tipping point years ago. But if we continue to do as we have done, we will find that tipping point for sure.

 

[HappyJoy]

Your link says global warming is a problem.

You guys are just pranking, right? People can't be this fucking stupid.

National Geographic? I wouldn't call that a blog.

Perhaps you need to read the article again, it cites NASA as its primary source, and nowhere does it mention "global warming":

The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages.

Nobody called it a blog Believe it or not, National Geographic has other articles that fully recognize global warming is happening. You should look into it.

So wait, do you agree with the findings of this article that the Sun will go through a cooling period that will possibly bring about a mini ice age that could last 70 to a 100 years? If so then the global warming theory must be totally discounted. The earth cannot get warm while the sun cools down dramatically. The Sun doesn't have political affiliations!

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

Do I believe in what?

I believe within 15 years, whether you like it or not, life is going to be very different.

Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Keep dreaming.

 

[Roudy]

National Geographic? I wouldn't call that a blog.

Perhaps you need to read the article again, it cites NASA as its primary source, and nowhere does it mention "global warming":

The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages.

Nobody called it a blog Believe it or not, National Geographic has other articles that fully recognize global warming is happening. You should look into it.

So wait, do you agree with the findings of this article that the Sun will go through a cooling period that will possibly bring about a mini ice age that could last 70 to a 100 years? If so then the global warming theory must be totally discounted. The earth cannot get warm while the sun cools down dramatically. The Sun doesn't have political affiliations!

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

Do I believe in what?

I believe within 15 years, whether you like it or not, life is going to be very different.

Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Keep dreaming.

Dreaming what? Do you agree with this?

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

 

[HappyJoy]

Nobody called it a blog Believe it or not, National Geographic has other articles that fully recognize global warming is happening. You should look into it.

So wait, do you agree with the findings of this article that the Sun will go through a cooling period that will possibly bring about a mini ice age that could last 70 to a 100 years? If so then the global warming theory must be totally discounted. The earth cannot get warm while the sun cools down dramatically. The Sun doesn't have political affiliations!

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

Do I believe in what?

I believe within 15 years, whether you like it or not, life is going to be very different.

Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Keep dreaming.

Dreaming what? Do you agree with this?

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

You're a deep thinker, aren't you? Hint: It's not saying what you think it is.

 

[Old Rocks]

And at the same time, we are rapidly increasing the GHGs in the atmosphere. The ability of the atmosphere to retain heat will probably be enhanced enough that the lowered TSI will have little effect. And the LIA did not last even a century, whereas the effects of the GHGs will last for centuries.

 

[9aces]

And at the same time, we are rapidly increasing the GHGs in the atmosphere. The ability of the atmosphere to retain heat will probably be enhanced enough that the lowered TSI will have little effect. And the LIA did not last even a century, whereas the effects of the GHGs will last for centuries.

You know it's funny. You're spouting doom, gloom and the end of mankind.....and for what?

Unless you want to become a global dictator and kill every other government and a pretty fair portion of the population...there's not one damn thing any of your posturing can accomplish....and even if you somehow managed all that, you still wouldn't be able to affect anything more than the merest fraction.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you really think that we are seeing the effects of the GHGs in the atmosphere at present? What we are seeing is the effects of the GHGs from three to five decades ago. So yes, it is possible that we may lower the emissions, only to find that we crossed the tipping point years ago. But if we continue to do as we have done, we will find that tipping point for sure.

Do you really think that we are seeing the effects of the GHGs in the atmosphere at present?

Based on our newly voracious oceans, it could be hundreds or thousands of years before we see it.

But if we continue to do as we have done, we will find that tipping point for sure.


Tipping point? Then we become Venus?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So wait, do you agree with the findings of this article that the Sun will go through a cooling period that will possibly bring about a mini ice age that could last 70 to a 100 years? If so then the global warming theory must be totally discounted. The earth cannot get warm while the sun cools down dramatically. The Sun doesn't have political affiliations!

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

Do I believe in what?

I believe within 15 years, whether you like it or not, life is going to be very different.

Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Keep dreaming.

Dreaming what? Do you agree with this?

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

You're a deep thinker, aren't you? Hint: It's not saying what you think it is.

So tell us what it really says.

 

[HappyJoy]

Do I believe in what?

I believe within 15 years, whether you like it or not, life is going to be very different.

Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Keep dreaming.

Dreaming what? Do you agree with this?

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

You're a deep thinker, aren't you? Hint: It's not saying what you think it is.

So tell us what it really says.

It's pretty clear "The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity."

Did that help?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Keep dreaming.

Dreaming what? Do you agree with this?

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

You're a deep thinker, aren't you? Hint: It's not saying what you think it is.

So tell us what it really says.

It's pretty clear "The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity."

Did that help?

That's not different than what Roudy said. Did you have a point?

 

[HappyJoy]

Keep dreaming.

Dreaming what? Do you agree with this?

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

You're a deep thinker, aren't you? Hint: It's not saying what you think it is.

So tell us what it really says.

It's pretty clear "The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity."

Did that help?

That's not different than what Roudy said. Did you have a point?

It's shouldn't be any different, it's a direct quote.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Dreaming what? Do you agree with this?

"The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity.
The predicted solar "sleep" is being compared to the last grand minimum on record, which occurred between 1645 and 1715.
Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages"

You're a deep thinker, aren't you? Hint: It's not saying what you think it is.

So tell us what it really says.

It's pretty clear "The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity."

Did that help?

That's not different than what Roudy said. Did you have a point?

It's shouldn't be any different, it's a direct quote.

So you didn't have a point.

 

[HappyJoy]

You're a deep thinker, aren't you? Hint: It's not saying what you think it is.

So tell us what it really says.

It's pretty clear "The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity."

Did that help?

That's not different than what Roudy said. Did you have a point?

It's shouldn't be any different, it's a direct quote.

So you didn't have a point.

Other than it obviously not disproving climate change.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So tell us what it really says.

It's pretty clear "The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity."

Did that help?

That's not different than what Roudy said. Did you have a point?

It's shouldn't be any different, it's a direct quote.

So you didn't have a point.

Other than it obviously not disproving climate change.

Did Roudy say it disproved climate change?

 

[HappyJoy]

It's pretty clear "The combined data indicate that we may soon be headed into what's known as a grand minimum, a period of unusually low solar activity."

Did that help?

That's not different than what Roudy said. Did you have a point?

It's shouldn't be any different, it's a direct quote.

So you didn't have a point.

Other than it obviously not disproving climate change.

Did Roudy say it disproved climate change?

Actually he went a step further and is saying that scientists are predicting global cooling, read it for yourself:


Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Post 440 if you are interested. Are you done now?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's not different than what Roudy said. Did you have a point?

It's shouldn't be any different, it's a direct quote.

So you didn't have a point.

Other than it obviously not disproving climate change.

Did Roudy say it disproved climate change?

Actually he went a step further and is saying that scientists are predicting global cooling, read it for yourself:


Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Post 440 if you are interested. Are you done now?

Less input from the Sun won't cool the Earth? I guess you can go with that.

Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages.

Kind of like how our warmest period coincided with higher CO2 levels?

 

[HappyJoy]

It's shouldn't be any different, it's a direct quote.

So you didn't have a point.

Other than it obviously not disproving climate change.

Did Roudy say it disproved climate change?

Actually he went a step further and is saying that scientists are predicting global cooling, read it for yourself:


Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Post 440 if you are interested. Are you done now?

Less input from the Sun won't cool the Earth? I guess you can go with that.

Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages.

Kind of like how our warmest period coincided with higher CO2 levels?

Not the level of Co2 we have now. We are going to continue to warm.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So you didn't have a point.

Other than it obviously not disproving climate change.

Did Roudy say it disproved climate change?

Actually he went a step further and is saying that scientists are predicting global cooling, read it for yourself:


Yes, according to what scientists are predicting about the Sun's behavior, there will be global cooling.

Post 440 if you are interested. Are you done now?

Less input from the Sun won't cool the Earth? I guess you can go with that.

Known as the Maunder Minimum, the roughly 70-year period coincided with the coldest spell of the Little Ice Age, when European canals regularly froze solid and Alpine glaciers encroached on mountain villages.

Kind of like how our warmest period coincided with higher CO2 levels?

Not the level of Co2 we have now. We are going to continue to warm.

Not the level of Co2 we have now.

I'm talking about now.

We are going to continue to warm.

Shorter, colder growing seasons would be really bad.
A new ice age would be a catastrophe. A CO2 insurance policy is a good idea.