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I somewhat agree, but not because it's old. The Colt 1911-style pistol is older still, yet it remains one of the best pistols ever (IMHO).The Garand is an excellent rifle, that just happens to be 80 year old technology; so while it is a good rifle, it is now far outclassed by the new breed.
It depends on the shooter.Yes, their bullet is certainly capable of killing somebody at that range, but intentionally hitting someone at that range is quite the trick.
and inevitably, 100's of those 3,700,000 made and sold legally will illegally, or through easy loop holes, end up in the hands of gangsters, murders or terrorists such as San Bernadino attackers....
It depends on the shooter.Yes, their bullet is certainly capable of killing somebody at that range, but intentionally hitting someone at that range is quite the trick.
When I was in the Marine Corps in the 1950s we qualified at 200, 300 and 500 yards. I qualified as Expert Rifleman all but one time (weather) and I could strike a man-size silhouette eight and sometimes ten out of ten times at 500 yards (in the prone position) with iron sights (no scope). Offhand (standing), ten out of ten at 200 yards. Sitting and kneeling, 300 yards, not so good.
Of course training is the key. We spent three solid weeks at the Parris Island rifle range, and I mean three seven-day-weeks from dawn to dusk. We left there with black, blue and green shoulders, muscles we never had before and biceps rubbed raw from the sling.
When you can empty a 30 shot clip in under 10 seconds, what is the differance between auto and semi-auto?I think the proper thing is to simply apply the same laws to them as to the .45 Thompson. And if you are caught off your property with one of the assault weapons without that license, you get a felony conviction and all your guns confiscated and destroyed. Also, a three month waiting period to purchase a gun, whether private or commercial sale. And if you sell a gun without the paper work, same thing, felony conviction, and all your weapons are confiscated and destroyed, and you never can own another firearm. Not only that, if you do said sell, without the paperwork, and the gun is used in a crime, you own that crime.They will either be banned or magazine capacity severely reduced. Duck hunters can only have 3 shells in gun at a time.
I think the proper thing is to simply apply the same laws to them as to the .45 Thompson.
Why?
ARs, unlike the old Thompson, is not full auto.
Which is why the Thompson has the laws covering it's ownership it does.
Yes...Americans understand that the anti gun extremists are nuts.....so...after San Bernadino..where 14 unarmed people in a gun free zone were killed by 2 muslims with guns....in a gun free zone....Americans bought out the entire stock of AR-15s...
Post San Bernardino Gun Sales Surge Drains U.S. AR Supply - The Truth About Guns
TTAG’s reached out to some of this country’s largest firearms wholesalers and learned that the sales channel is dry. AR’s they ain’t got. And no wonder. IWI US’s VP of Sales & Marketing, Michael Kassner, tells TTAG that IWI’s sold thousands of Tavors over the weekend. Folks, that’s a $2k rifle. You can imagine how many low-end AR’s are finding new homes in the rush to tool-up against terrorism, further fueled by the assault media’s decision to come out of the gun confiscation closet, ahead of Hillary Clinton’s potential election. There’s a lag between wholesaler supply and what you see at your local gun store. That means . . .
you’ll still see guns on the shelves for the time being. But for how long?
Yes...Americans understand that the anti gun extremists are nuts.....so...after San Bernadino..where 14 unarmed people in a gun free zone were killed by 2 muslims with guns....in a gun free zone....Americans bought out the entire stock of AR-15s...
Post San Bernardino Gun Sales Surge Drains U.S. AR Supply - The Truth About Guns
TTAG’s reached out to some of this country’s largest firearms wholesalers and learned that the sales channel is dry. AR’s they ain’t got. And no wonder. IWI US’s VP of Sales & Marketing, Michael Kassner, tells TTAG that IWI’s sold thousands of Tavors over the weekend. Folks, that’s a $2k rifle. You can imagine how many low-end AR’s are finding new homes in the rush to tool-up against terrorism, further fueled by the assault media’s decision to come out of the gun confiscation closet, ahead of Hillary Clinton’s potential election. There’s a lag between wholesaler supply and what you see at your local gun store. That means . . .
you’ll still see guns on the shelves for the time being. But for how long?
Looks like if you want an AR-15 to shoot up a classroom full of first graders or a movie theater yoy are going to have to buy one from a private gun owner
Lucky for you, there is nothing stopping him from selling it to you
That will be sad - when they're all banned.
They will either be banned or magazine capacity severely reduced. Duck hunters can only have 3 shells in gun at a time.
I believe that either is the main reason or has a lot to do with it. Resemblance to the M-16, which is seen in all contemporary war movies imparts a certain macho mystique to it.Why?
Because they look dangerous?
I'm a relic from the M-1 Garand era, which was one hell of a weapon. Big and heavy, but it will take out an adversary right through a cinder block wall at 500 yards. But the present ideal is light weight and Buck Rogers imagery.
I've never seen an AR-15, which closely resembles the M-16 and probably accounts for its popularity. Based on all I've read and heard about both weapons my preference inclines to the AK-47, which is very sturdy, extremely reliable -- even in wet, sandy conditions, and is relatively simple to disassemble and clean. Plus a good AK-47 is priced at around $400, while an AR-15 costs $1,500. I don't know how much an M-16 costs but it must be around $2,000.
I'll be interested in hearing from those who have hands-on knowledge of all three of these weapons. Which is the better weapon, and why?
I have one of each. If society collapsed and I could only head to the hills with 1....no question it's the AK47. Never breaks. Never needs cleaning. Fires a 2x larger bullet. And...it eats the cheapest steel cased ammo you can buy... $4 for 20 rounds...and loves it. I can by 100 rounds for $15 in bulk packs every time I'm in the store and never hurts the budget. Have a great supply stocked up now. About 8 spare mags. Give me the AK any day over the AR.
And when you croak, your descendants are going to look at your arsenal, and wonder what the crazy old fart was thinking. I have 100 brass, and the makings of about the same number for my primary hunting rifle, that will more than likely last me the rest of my life. I really don't plan on going to war.I believe that either is the main reason or has a lot to do with it. Resemblance to the M-16, which is seen in all contemporary war movies imparts a certain macho mystique to it.Why?
Because they look dangerous?
I'm a relic from the M-1 Garand era, which was one hell of a weapon. Big and heavy, but it will take out an adversary right through a cinder block wall at 500 yards. But the present ideal is light weight and Buck Rogers imagery.
I've never seen an AR-15, which closely resembles the M-16 and probably accounts for its popularity. Based on all I've read and heard about both weapons my preference inclines to the AK-47, which is very sturdy, extremely reliable -- even in wet, sandy conditions, and is relatively simple to disassemble and clean. Plus a good AK-47 is priced at around $400, while an AR-15 costs $1,500. I don't know how much an M-16 costs but it must be around $2,000.
I'll be interested in hearing from those who have hands-on knowledge of all three of these weapons. Which is the better weapon, and why?
I have one of each. If society collapsed and I could only head to the hills with 1....no question it's the AK47. Never breaks. Never needs cleaning. Fires a 2x larger bullet. And...it eats the cheapest steel cased ammo you can buy... $4 for 20 rounds...and loves it. I can by 100 rounds for $15 in bulk packs every time I'm in the store and never hurts the budget. Have a great supply stocked up now. About 8 spare mags. Give me the AK any day over the AR.
I believe that either is the main reason or has a lot to do with it. Resemblance to the M-16, which is seen in all contemporary war movies imparts a certain macho mystique to it.Why?
Because they look dangerous?
I'm a relic from the M-1 Garand era, which was one hell of a weapon. Big and heavy, but it will take out an adversary right through a cinder block wall at 500 yards. But the present ideal is light weight and Buck Rogers imagery.
I've never seen an AR-15, which closely resembles the M-16 and probably accounts for its popularity. Based on all I've read and heard about both weapons my preference inclines to the AK-47, which is very sturdy, extremely reliable -- even in wet, sandy conditions, and is relatively simple to disassemble and clean. Plus a good AK-47 is priced at around $400, while an AR-15 costs $1,500. I don't know how much an M-16 costs but it must be around $2,000.
I'll be interested in hearing from those who have hands-on knowledge of all three of these weapons. Which is the better weapon, and why?
I have one of each. If society collapsed and I could only head to the hills with 1....no question it's the AK47. Never breaks. Never needs cleaning. Fires a 2x larger bullet. And...it eats the cheapest steel cased ammo you can buy... $4 for 20 rounds...and loves it. I can by 100 rounds for $15 in bulk packs every time I'm in the store and never hurts the budget. Have a great supply stocked up now. About 8 spare mags. Give me the AK any day over the AR.
I bet you're just gagging for it - the break down of society. So you can fulfil your wet dream of being a weekend warrior....
They should be melted down to make something useful.
Yes...Americans understand that the anti gun extremists are nuts.....so...after San Bernadino..where 14 unarmed people in a gun free zone were killed by 2 muslims with guns....in a gun free zone....Americans bought out the entire stock of AR-15s...
Post San Bernardino Gun Sales Surge Drains U.S. AR Supply - The Truth About Guns
TTAG’s reached out to some of this country’s largest firearms wholesalers and learned that the sales channel is dry. AR’s they ain’t got. And no wonder. IWI US’s VP of Sales & Marketing, Michael Kassner, tells TTAG that IWI’s sold thousands of Tavors over the weekend. Folks, that’s a $2k rifle. You can imagine how many low-end AR’s are finding new homes in the rush to tool-up against terrorism, further fueled by the assault media’s decision to come out of the gun confiscation closet, ahead of Hillary Clinton’s potential election. There’s a lag between wholesaler supply and what you see at your local gun store. That means . . .
you’ll still see guns on the shelves for the time being. But for how long?
When you can empty a 30 shot clip in under 10 seconds, what is the differance between auto and semi-auto?I think the proper thing is to simply apply the same laws to them as to the .45 Thompson. And if you are caught off your property with one of the assault weapons without that license, you get a felony conviction and all your guns confiscated and destroyed. Also, a three month waiting period to purchase a gun, whether private or commercial sale. And if you sell a gun without the paper work, same thing, felony conviction, and all your weapons are confiscated and destroyed, and you never can own another firearm. Not only that, if you do said sell, without the paperwork, and the gun is used in a crime, you own that crime.They will either be banned or magazine capacity severely reduced. Duck hunters can only have 3 shells in gun at a time.
I think the proper thing is to simply apply the same laws to them as to the .45 Thompson.
Why?
ARs, unlike the old Thompson, is not full auto.
Which is why the Thompson has the laws covering it's ownership it does.
Nope. My '930' doesn't just have a 3 shell capacity. HAAAAA HAAAAAThey will either be banned or magazine capacity severely reduced. Duck hunters can only have 3 shells in gun at a time.
Nope. My '930' doesn't just have a 3 shell capacity. HAAAAA HAAAAAThey will either be banned or magazine capacity severely reduced. Duck hunters can only have 3 shells in gun at a time.
I have an old AK47. It would be my first choice if I could only have one gun. You never need replacement parts but if you did you can find them anywhere on earth. Ammo is dirt cheap.I believe that either is the main reason or has a lot to do with it. Resemblance to the M-16, which is seen in all contemporary war movies imparts a certain macho mystique to it.Why?
Because they look dangerous?
I'm a relic from the M-1 Garand era, which was one hell of a weapon. Big and heavy, but it will take out an adversary right through a cinder block wall at 500 yards. But the present ideal is light weight and Buck Rogers imagery.
I've never seen an AR-15, which closely resembles the M-16 and probably accounts for its popularity. Based on all I've read and heard about both weapons my preference inclines to the AK-47, which is very sturdy, extremely reliable -- even in wet, sandy conditions, and is relatively simple to disassemble and clean. Plus a good AK-47 is priced at around $400, while an AR-15 costs $1,500. I don't know how much an M-16 costs but it must be around $2,000.
I'll be interested in hearing from those who have hands-on knowledge of all three of these weapons. Which is the better weapon, and why?
I have one of each. If society collapsed and I could only head to the hills with 1....no question it's the AK47. Never breaks. Never needs cleaning. Fires a 2x larger bullet. And...it eats the cheapest steel cased ammo you can buy... $4 for 20 rounds...and loves it. I can by 100 rounds for $15 in bulk packs every time I'm in the store and never hurts the budget. Have a great supply stocked up now. About 8 spare mags. Give me the AK any day over the AR.
