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Because their alternative is? What? Democrats? You can be confident in Democrats. They will fuck up a one car parade given half a chance.The truly brain dead are the 20% who still have any confidence in Republicans.
The narco-libertarians? Even worse.
The GOP, for all its faults, is the only party with a ghost of a chance of changing something.
Pretty ironic observation on your part given it was Republicans who failed to pass oversight of the GSE's a decade ago, leading to the worst collapse in our economy since the Great Depression.
Because their alternative is? What? Democrats? You can be confident in Democrats. They will fuck up a one car parade given half a chance.
The narco-libertarians? Even worse.
The GOP, for all its faults, is the only party with a ghost of a chance of changing something.
Pretty ironic observation on your part given it was Republicans who failed to pass oversight of the GSE's a decade ago, leading to the worst collapse in our economy since the Great Depression.
Excuse me there dip, who bailed out those GSE's and made very few structural changes to them and are now allowing the same behavior that screwed the pooch last time. You damned commies have enabled freddie and fanny for ever and you think you got some bitch coming about the republicans who tried to reform the two and was blocked by the commies.
Pretty ironic observation on your part given it was Republicans who failed to pass oversight of the GSE's a decade ago, leading to the worst collapse in our economy since the Great Depression.
Excuse me there dip, who bailed out those GSE's and made very few structural changes to them and are now allowing the same behavior that screwed the pooch last time. You damned commies have enabled freddie and fanny for ever and you think you got some bitch coming about the republicans who tried to reform the two and was blocked by the commies.
What drugs are you on? The GSE's contributed greatly to the economic collapse and additional oversight could have prevented it. Bush asked for oversight of the GSE's around 2002-2003. He didn't a bill to sign until 2008 when Democrats were in control of the Congress. The bailout (which Bush begged Congress for) came after that. And it was Bush's homeownership policies which relied heavily on the GSE's.
The Democrats were not in control of the Congress back then. Republicans were. Despite being on the wrong side of the issue back then, Democrats did not block Republicans from passing oversight -- Republicans failed to pass oversight without any help from Democrats. In 2002, Bush relied heavily on the GSE's to support his homeownership policies. Because of this, he repeatedly implored the Republican-led Congress to add oversight.Excuse me there dip, who bailed out those GSE's and made very few structural changes to them and are now allowing the same behavior that screwed the pooch last time. You damned commies have enabled freddie and fanny for ever and you think you got some bitch coming about the republicans who tried to reform the two and was blocked by the commies.
What drugs are you on? The GSE's contributed greatly to the economic collapse and additional oversight could have prevented it. Bush asked for oversight of the GSE's around 2002-2003. He didn't a bill to sign until 2008 when Democrats were in control of the Congress. The bailout (which Bush begged Congress for) came after that. And it was Bush's homeownership policies which relied heavily on the GSE's.
You need to do a bit of reading on the history of freddie and fanny, they have been a halfway house for dems to get rich before going back to civilian life. How about you check out the hearings where the republicans were accused of trying to lynch Franklin Reins (spelling). The dems fought tooth and nail to prevent any accountability.
The Democrats were not in control of the Congress back then. Republicans were. Despite being on the wrong side of the issue back then, Democrats did not block Republicans from passing oversight -- Republicans failed to pass oversight without any help from Democrats. In 2002, Bush relied heavily on the GSE's to support his homeownership policies. Because of this, he repeatedly implored the Republican-led Congress to add oversight.What drugs are you on? The GSE's contributed greatly to the economic collapse and additional oversight could have prevented it. Bush asked for oversight of the GSE's around 2002-2003. He didn't a bill to sign until 2008 when Democrats were in control of the Congress. The bailout (which Bush begged Congress for) came after that. And it was Bush's homeownership policies which relied heavily on the GSE's.
You need to do a bit of reading on the history of freddie and fanny, they have been a halfway house for dems to get rich before going back to civilian life. How about you check out the hearings where the republicans were accused of trying to lynch Franklin Reins (spelling). The dems fought tooth and nail to prevent any accountability.
They never did.
It wasn't until 2008, long after the damage was already done, that Bush finally got a bill on his desk to sign.
That is nothing but speculation on your part. There was oversight passed in 2008 which will hopefully prevent a repeat of that disaster. Still, it was the lack of oversight during the Republican-led years which led the real estate bubble to balloon to unsustainable levels, which then led to the financial collapse. That's why I pointed out the irony of a retard idiotically claiming it's Republicans we should turn to.The Democrats were not in control of the Congress back then. Republicans were. Despite being on the wrong side of the issue back then, Democrats did not block Republicans from passing oversight -- Republicans failed to pass oversight without any help from Democrats. In 2002, Bush relied heavily on the GSE's to support his homeownership policies. Because of this, he repeatedly implored the Republican-led Congress to add oversight.You need to do a bit of reading on the history of freddie and fanny, they have been a halfway house for dems to get rich before going back to civilian life. How about you check out the hearings where the republicans were accused of trying to lynch Franklin Reins (spelling). The dems fought tooth and nail to prevent any accountability.
They never did.
It wasn't until 2008, long after the damage was already done, that Bush finally got a bill on his desk to sign.
It doesn't really matter, both freddie and fanny should have been shuttered and their assets sold off, we will be revisiting bailouts for them again.
Ohhh the white knight.
You do realize that no one here gives a rats ass who is okay with you.
Candy has consistently proven to be a democrat hack and being called on it should not be a surprise.
OKTexas has consistently proven himself to be a GOP hack. I see you are quick to call him out on it.
Fuck you asshole, I gave the bitch too much credit. Seems like you're the ignorant hack.
Twenty-three percent of Americans identify as liberal, a Gallup poll released Friday shows, noting a steady increase since 2005.
Gallup poll: Liberal self identify at record high - Lucy McCalmont - POLITICO.com
Shvantz, you look like that old lady in that commercial who's fallen and can't get up, at the same time, you're gumming at my ankles. I pointed out an actual fact, which means nothing to you since you don't know what a fact is. Furthermore, unlike yours, my post was completely relevant to the post I was responding to. Congress shut down 100% of the government. There was no additional funding for the government being administered to keep any federal services going and the government was feeding off the funds in reserve. The effect was an increase in government funded services being cut off, which were going to increase as time went on since there was 0% new funding thanks to the Congressional government shut down. We were at 18% and climbing when Congress finally passed a continuing resolution to end the shutdown.
You're so fucking retarded, your idiocy is like claiming you're only 18% fired after losing your job because you still have one more paycheck in arrears coming.
By the way, you made this claim ...
"Blacks went about 97% for Democrats in the last 2 elections. They are worse off now than before. Are you saying 97% of blacks are brain dead?" ~ brain-dead shvantz
I asked you, "worse off than what? In what way?"
Can't you answer, rightie?
Economically. Although the word having more than 2 syllables no doubt stumps you.
You are a pathetic little fool, aren't you?
Please, you can't even spell economically without the aid of a spell checker; who do you think you're kidding? Now prove your claim with actual figures ......
And the Democrats did wht exactly? Recall Barney Frank was in a position to change things and instead opted to roll the dice.Because their alternative is? What? Democrats? You can be confident in Democrats. They will fuck up a one car parade given half a chance.The truly brain dead are the 20% who still have any confidence in Republicans.
The narco-libertarians? Even worse.
The GOP, for all its faults, is the only party with a ghost of a chance of changing something.
Pretty ironic observation on your part given it was Republicans who failed to pass oversight of the GSE's a decade ago, leading to the worst collapse in our economy since the Great Depression.
Pretty ironic observation on your part given it was Republicans who failed to pass oversight of the GSE's a decade ago, leading to the worst collapse in our economy since the Great Depression.
Excuse me there dip, who bailed out those GSE's and made very few structural changes to them and are now allowing the same behavior that screwed the pooch last time. You damned commies have enabled freddie and fanny for ever and you think you got some bitch coming about the republicans who tried to reform the two and was blocked by the commies.
What drugs are you on? The GSE's contributed greatly to the economic collapse and additional oversight could have prevented it. Bush asked for oversight of the GSE's around 2002-2003. He didn't a bill to sign until 2008 when Democrats were in control of the Congress. The bailout (which Bush begged Congress for) came after that. And it was Bush's homeownership policies which relied heavily on the GSE's.
Economically. Although the word having more than 2 syllables no doubt stumps you.
You are a pathetic little fool, aren't you?
Please, you can't even spell economically without the aid of a spell checker; who do you think you're kidding? Now prove your claim with actual figures ......
Darn, did I nail it or what? I'd post a graph, but then I'd have to explain it to you.
Once again, for the truly brain-dead folks here -- Democrats were in the minority party at that time.And the Democrats did wht exactly? Recall Barney Frank was in a position to change things and instead opted to roll the dice.Because their alternative is? What? Democrats? You can be confident in Democrats. They will fuck up a one car parade given half a chance.
The narco-libertarians? Even worse.
The GOP, for all its faults, is the only party with a ghost of a chance of changing something.
Pretty ironic observation on your part given it was Republicans who failed to pass oversight of the GSE's a decade ago, leading to the worst collapse in our economy since the Great Depression.
Once again, for the truly brain-dead folks here -- Democrats were in the minority party at that time.And the Democrats did wht exactly? Recall Barney Frank was in a position to change things and instead opted to roll the dice.Pretty ironic observation on your part given it was Republicans who failed to pass oversight of the GSE's a decade ago, leading to the worst collapse in our economy since the Great Depression.
Republicans had the power to pass oversight -- they didn't. You can't blame the minority party for the failures of the majority party with the exception of when the minority party successfully blocks the majority party, which was not the case back then with the minority party Democrats since they did not block any bills with oversight of the GSE's.
It was Republicans, the party in charge, who failed to pass oversight.
Not only do you prove yourself to be completely retarded (like your idiotic claim that the 2006 elections were just two elections agoOnce again, for the truly brain-dead folks here -- Democrats were in the minority party at that time.And the Democrats did wht exactly? Recall Barney Frank was in a position to change things and instead opted to roll the dice.
Republicans had the power to pass oversight -- they didn't. You can't blame the minority party for the failures of the majority party with the exception of when the minority party successfully blocks the majority party, which was not the case back then with the minority party Democrats since they did not block any bills with oversight of the GSE's.
It was Republicans, the party in charge, who failed to pass oversight.
Blah blah blah. What was the Democrat proposal? Oh yeah, roll the dice. Quit blaming the GOP for Dem policies that resulted in an economic meltdown, that the Dems then turned into the Great Recession through Obama's worthless policies.
), you also demonstrate that you're batshit insane. Blaming the minority party because the majority party wouldn't pass oversight is beyond ludicrous. Even more insane is blaming Obama's policies for the Great Recession which was already the Great Recession before he passed his first policy. Not only do you prove yourself to be completely retarded (like your idiotic claim that the 2006 elections were just two elections agoOnce again, for the truly brain-dead folks here -- Democrats were in the minority party at that time.
Republicans had the power to pass oversight -- they didn't. You can't blame the minority party for the failures of the majority party with the exception of when the minority party successfully blocks the majority party, which was not the case back then with the minority party Democrats since they did not block any bills with oversight of the GSE's.
It was Republicans, the party in charge, who failed to pass oversight.
Blah blah blah. What was the Democrat proposal? Oh yeah, roll the dice. Quit blaming the GOP for Dem policies that resulted in an economic meltdown, that the Dems then turned into the Great Recession through Obama's worthless policies.
And what "Dem policies" do you claim led to the economic meltdown?
At least the Massachusetts Democrat is consistent. His record is close to perfect as a stalwart opponent of reforming the two companies, going back more than a decade. The first concerted push to rein in Fan and Fred in Congress came as far back as 1992, and Mr. Frank was right there, standing athwart. But things really picked up this decade, and Barney was there at every turn. Let's roll the audiotape:
In 2000, then-Rep. Richard Baker proposed a bill to reform Fannie and Freddie's oversight. Mr. Frank dismissed the idea, saying concerns about the two were "overblown" and that there was "no federal liability there whatsoever."
Two years later, Mr. Frank was at it again. "I do not regard Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as problems," he said in response to another reform push. And then: "I regard them as great assets." Great or not, we'll give Mr. Frank this: Their assets are now Uncle Sam's assets, even if those come along with $5.4 trillion in debt and other liabilities.
Again in June 2003, the favorite of the Beltway press corps assured the public that "there is no federal guarantee" of Fan and Fred obligations.
Fannie Mayhem: A History
Click here for a compendium of The Wall Street Journal's recent editorial coverage of Fannie and Freddie.
A month later, Freddie Mac's multibillion-dollar accounting scandal broke into the open. But Mr. Frank was sanguine. "I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis," he said at the time.
Three months later he repeated the claim that Fannie and Freddie posed no "threat to the Treasury." Even suggesting that heresy, he added, could become "a self-fulfilling prophecy."
In April 2004, Fannie announced a multibillion-dollar financial "misstatement" of its own. Mr. Frank was back for the defense. Fannie and Freddie posed no risk to taxpayers, he said, adding that "I think Wall Street will get over it" if the two collapsed. Yes, they're certainly "over it" on the Street now that Uncle Sam is guaranteeing their Fannie paper, and even Fannie's subordinated debt.
By early 2007, Mr. Frank was in charge of the House Financial Services Committee, arguing that he had long favored some kind of reform. "What blocked it [reform] last year," Mr. Frank said then, "was the insistence of some economic conservative fundamentalists in the Bush Administration who, to be honest, don't think there should be a Fannie Mae or a Freddie Mac." What really blocked it was Mr. Frank's insistence that any reform be watered down and not include any reduction in their MBS holdings.
In January of last year, Mr. Frank also noted one reason he liked Fannie and Freddie so much: They were subject to his political direction. Contrasting Fan and Fred with private-sector mortgage financers, he noted, "I can ask Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to show forbearance" in a housing crisis. That is to say, because Fannie and Freddie are political creatures, Mr. Frank believed they would do his bidding.
And this is exactly what Mr. Frank attempted to prove when the housing market started to go south. He encouraged the companies to guarantee more "affordable" mortgages, thus abetting their disastrous plunge into subprime and Alt-A loans. He also pushed for, and got, an increase in the conforming-loan limits to allow Fan and Fred to securitize and guarantee larger mortgages. And he pressured regulators to ease up on their capital requirements -- which now means taxpayers will have to make up that capital shortfall.
Please, you can't even spell economically without the aid of a spell checker; who do you think you're kidding? Now prove your claim with actual figures ......
Darn, did I nail it or what? I'd post a graph, but then I'd have to explain it to you.
What you nailed it proving yet again just how retarded you are. Let me remind you what you said, since what you're saying now doesn't match up to what you said earlier ...
"Blacks went about 97% for Democrats in the last 2 elections. They are worse off now than before. Are you saying 97% of blacks are brain dead?" ~ brain-dead shvantz
Since you want to use the unemployment rate to measure that, the unemployment rate among blacks since "the last 2 elections" has gone down. Keep in mind, the people who one the election took office in early January, 2010
Dec/2010: 15.6%
Jan/2014: 12.1%
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
Hmmm...the country is 61% liberal?
And you are 100% idiot commie. You're the proof for my statement, you got proof for yours?
Leave her alone this poster is ok with me.. even though she is a lib.
Economically. Although the word having more than 2 syllables no doubt stumps you.
You are a pathetic little fool, aren't you?
Please, you can't even spell economically without the aid of a spell checker; who do you think you're kidding? Now prove your claim with actual figures ......
Darn, did I nail it or what? I'd post a graph, but then I'd have to explain it to you.
My G-d, are you ever retarded. :eusa__doh: Imbecile, do you understand that words have meaning?? Do you understand you said blacks are worse off than they were 2 elections ago (2010) and then to prove that idiocy when challenged, you had to go back years before 5 hat since your original comment is completely idiotic.Darn, did I nail it or what? I'd post a graph, but then I'd have to explain it to you.
What you nailed it proving yet again just how retarded you are. Let me remind you what you said, since what you're saying now doesn't match up to what you said earlier ...
"Blacks went about 97% for Democrats in the last 2 elections. They are worse off now than before. Are you saying 97% of blacks are brain dead?" ~ brain-dead shvantz
Since you want to use the unemployment rate to measure that, the unemployment rate among blacks since "the last 2 elections" has gone down. Keep in mind, the people who one the election took office in early January, 2010
Dec/2010: 15.6%
Jan/2014: 12.1%
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
Only a brain dead liberal would claim over 12% unemployment for blacks is some kind of achievement. What was the rate under Bush? Yeah, lots lower.
