400 ppm in our lifetimes?

If volcanoes weren't such an insignificant source of CO2 compared to human emissions, that might have made sense.





Don't you mean to say "mans emissions are insignificant compared to natural sources." After all, man's contribution to the GLOBAL CO2 budget is 5% of the total. Totally insignificant in the overall scheme of things.

Outright lie.

The normal global budget of CO2 includes both emission and absorption. Prior to the use of fossil fuels, the norm for the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere for the last few thousand years was about 280 ppm. In other words, the emission and absorption balanced out. Today, after 200 years of intensive fossil fuel use, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 400 ppm. That is a 40% increase that we are responsible for.
 
If volcanoes weren't such an insignificant source of CO2 compared to human emissions, that might have made sense.

Tell us how many million of metric tons of CO2 humans put into the air, then tell us how many millions of tons of CO2 are absorbed by plant life? We are surrounded by idiots that believe everything that is thrown at them without research, and even more useful is COMMON SENSE!... What the fuck is a Mamooth?

You are an idiot that does not know the meaning of research. If you go the the USGS comparing volcanic emissions to human emissions, you can get the numbers. And if plant life were absorbing what we emit, why then has the atmospheric load of CO2 gone from 280 ppm to 400 ppm in a bit over a century and a half?
 
This, of course has NOTHING to do with the increase in CO2!:cuckoo:

2013: New Record Set for Volcanic Eruptions in any Given Year!!!

2013 has seen more volcanic eruptions than at any time since records began. As reported in Seven Volcanoes In Six Different Countries All Start Erupting Winin Hours Of Each Other, vulcanism is on the increase. In an average year, 50-60 volcanoes erupt. So far this year there have been 83, not including any eruptions when writing this article.

An extra 23-33 eruptions (so far) may not seem like much, but those extra eruptions represent a massive amount of gases and ash being blown into the atmosphere. Millions and millions of metric tonnes which can have a profound effect on life on Earth.....

2013: New Record Set for Volcanic Eruptions in any Given Year - Apparently Apparel®

Buddy boy, the size of the eruptions make a big differance. All 23 do not add up to one Krakatoa.
 
If volcanoes weren't such an insignificant source of CO2 compared to human emissions, that might have made sense.

Tell us how many million of metric tons of CO2 humans put into the air, then tell us how many millions of tons of CO2 are absorbed by plant life? We are surrounded by idiots that believe everything that is thrown at them without research, and even more useful is COMMON SENSE!... What the fuck is a Mamooth?

You are an idiot that does not know the meaning of research. If you go the the USGS comparing volcanic emissions to human emissions, you can get the numbers. And if plant life were absorbing what we emit, why then has the atmospheric load of CO2 gone from 280 ppm to 400 ppm in a bit over a century and a half?

Perhaps, as common sense would dictate, of which, I see you have little, we should GREEN the planet more with vegetation. But you idiots use this CO2 bullshit, to ENHANCE THE COFFERS of politicians, parties, and supporters with GRANTS....How many years now has it been getting colder, instead of hotter?
 
This, of course has NOTHING to do with the increase in CO2!:cuckoo:

2013: New Record Set for Volcanic Eruptions in any Given Year!!!

2013 has seen more volcanic eruptions than at any time since records began. As reported in Seven Volcanoes In Six Different Countries All Start Erupting Winin Hours Of Each Other, vulcanism is on the increase. In an average year, 50-60 volcanoes erupt. So far this year there have been 83, not including any eruptions when writing this article.

An extra 23-33 eruptions (so far) may not seem like much, but those extra eruptions represent a massive amount of gases and ash being blown into the atmosphere. Millions and millions of metric tonnes which can have a profound effect on life on Earth.....

2013: New Record Set for Volcanic Eruptions in any Given Year - Apparently Apparel®

Buddy boy, the size of the eruptions make a big differance. All 23 do not add up to one Krakatoa.

OH MY, I guess all those COW FARTS really do matter so very much! Common sense isn't so common! And what did Krakatoa do? Who was measuring it's effect back in 1883?
 
If volcanoes weren't such an insignificant source of CO2 compared to human emissions, that might have made sense.





Don't you mean to say "mans emissions are insignificant compared to natural sources." After all, man's contribution to the GLOBAL CO2 budget is 5% of the total. Totally insignificant in the overall scheme of things.

Outright lie.

The normal global budget of CO2 includes both emission and absorption. Prior to the use of fossil fuels, the norm for the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere for the last few thousand years was about 280 ppm. In other words, the emission and absorption balanced out. Today, after 200 years of intensive fossil fuel use, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 400 ppm. That is a 40% increase that we are responsible for.






Pooor olfraud, you just hate it when facts counter your dogma don't you!:lol::lol::lol:



Videoaufzeichnung des Vortrags von Prof. Murry Salby in Hamburg am 18. April 2013 | Die kalte Sonne


Prof. Murry Salby: Climate ?Model World? Diverges Starkly From ?Real World? | The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF)
 
If volcanoes weren't such an insignificant source of CO2 compared to human emissions, that might have made sense.





Don't you mean to say "mans emissions are insignificant compared to natural sources." After all, man's contribution to the GLOBAL CO2 budget is 5% of the total. Totally insignificant in the overall scheme of things.

Outright lie.

The normal global budget of CO2 includes both emission and absorption. Prior to the use of fossil fuels, the norm for the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere for the last few thousand years was about 280 ppm. In other words, the emission and absorption balanced out. Today, after 200 years of intensive fossil fuel use, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 400 ppm. That is a 40% increase that we are responsible for.

So you don't think outgassing from warmer oceans has contributed anything to atmospheric CO2? It happened every time it warmed up in the past, why not this time?
 
Don't you mean to say "mans emissions are insignificant compared to natural sources." After all, man's contribution to the GLOBAL CO2 budget is 5% of the total. Totally insignificant in the overall scheme of things.

If I make $100 a week and spend $100, and then get a 5% raise, my bank account keeps rising, even the raise was only 5% of the total.

You're not qualified to be bothering the grownups with your childish chatter. Things like the basics of an equilibrium system are literally third-grade level stuff, but you can't even comprehend such basics, no matter how far we try to dumb it down.
 
So you don't think outgassing from warmer oceans has contributed anything to atmospheric CO2? It happened every time it warmed up in the past, why not this time?

Since we directly measure the oceans absorbing CO2, claiming that the oceans are outgassing CO2 is delusional.

And "It happened like that in the past, so it must act the same way now, even if conditions are wildly different!" is an obvious logical fallacy. Most deniers rely heavily on that fallacy.
 
So you don't think outgassing from warmer oceans has contributed anything to atmospheric CO2? It happened every time it warmed up in the past, why not this time?

Since we directly measure the oceans absorbing CO2, claiming that the oceans are outgassing CO2 is delusional.

And "It happened like that in the past, so it must act the same way now, even if conditions are wildly different!" is an obvious logical fallacy. Most deniers rely heavily on that fallacy.

It doesn't matter what is said on this board, you manage to make a comment that is either misinformed, an outright lie, or just plain stupid. It is obvious that you just mindlessly parrot whatever BS you hear or read coming from alarmist propagandists. The peer reviewed literature says that the oceans are a net source of CO2 to the atmosphere...that means that they are outgassing more than they are taking in.

http://www.biogeosciences.net/10/7775/2013/

Published in biogeoscience...finds that the South China Sea is a net source of CO2 to the atmosphere.

Physical pathways for carbon transfers between the surface mixed layer and the ocean interior - Levy - 2013 - Global Biogeochemical Cycles - Wiley Online Library

Published in Global Biogeochemical Cycles finds that the worlds oceans are a net source of CO2 to the atmosphere

http://reef01.marine.usf.edu/sites/default/files/project/cariaco/publications/Astor_et_al_2013.pdf

Published in Deep Sea Research finds that oceans are a net source of CO2

Air-sea CO2 fluxes in the near-shore and intertidal zones influenced by the California Current - Reimer - 2013 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Oceans - Wiley Online Library

Published in The Journal of Geophysical Research Oceans finds that the near shore region of Baha is a net source of CO2 to the atmosphere.

BG - Abstract - Air?sea exchange of CO2 at a Northern California coastal site along the California Current upwelling system

Published in Biogeosciences finds that the oceans along the N. California coast are a net source of CO2 to the atmosphere.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v503/n7476/full/nature12760.html

Published in Nature finds that inland waters such as rivers and lakes are large net sources of CO2 to the atmosphere.

And I could continue. Fact is, mamooth that you don't have a clue. You lie, misinform, and simply pull statements out of your ass if you think they will help you make a point, or fool someone.
 
de Grasse Tyson was right about deniers.






Yes, he was. You clowns don't adhere to the scientific method at all. You deniers wipe your bottoms with it. Pathetic. Your fall has been fun to watch though. Real fun!:lol:
 
de Grasse Tyson was right about deniers.

Yes, he was. You clowns don't adhere to the scientific method at all. You deniers wipe your bottoms with it. Pathetic. Your fall has been fun to watch though. Real fun!:lol:


I don't actually know what Tyson had to say about deniers, but I can imagine. And, you are right. You don't adhere to the scientific method and your failures to do so are pathetic. However, it has not been fun to watch.
 
de Grasse Tyson was right about deniers.

Yes, he was. You clowns don't adhere to the scientific method at all. You deniers wipe your bottoms with it. Pathetic. Your fall has been fun to watch though. Real fun!:lol:


I don't actually know what Tyson had to say about deniers, but I can imagine. And, you are right. You don't adhere to the scientific method and your failures to do so are pathetic. However, it has not been fun to watch.





I disagree. The fall of CAGW "theory" has been epic. Now whenever Yahoo runs one of their propaganda pieces (and lately they have been incessant, the fraudsters are getting desperate don't ya know) the comments section is OVERWHELMINGLY skeptical.

The people have figured out you're full of poo and they aren't taking it anymore. You've lost. Time to go find something else to get hysterical about.
 
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abs/ha04600x.html

Hansen et al. 1981
Hansen, J., D. Johnson, A. Lacis, S. Lebedeff, P. Lee, D. Rind, and G. Russell, 1981: Climate impact of increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide. Science, 213, 957-966, doi:10.1126/science.213.4511.957.

The global temperature rose 0.2°C between the middle 1960s and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage
 
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abs/ha04600x.html

Hansen et al. 1981
Hansen, J., D. Johnson, A. Lacis, S. Lebedeff, P. Lee, D. Rind, and G. Russell, 1981: Climate impact of increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide. Science, 213, 957-966, doi:10.1126/science.213.4511.957.

The global temperature rose 0.2°C between the middle 1960s and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage











So, you're trotting out a paper from 1981 telling us that the Dust Bowl will be drought stricken again?:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Grow up.
 
It doesn't matter what is said on this board, you manage to make a comment that is either misinformed, an outright lie, or just plain stupid.

Hey kook, where'd you crib that list of dishonestly misrepresented and cherrypicked links from?

I can check quick, since there are only a couple denier websites willing to lie that brazenly for TheCause. "CO2 science"? Nope. "Principia Scientifica International"? Nope. "The Hockey Schtick" ... DING! WE HAVE A WINNA!

THE HOCKEY SCHTICK: New paper finds rivers and lakes are large net sources of CO2 to the atmosphere

So not only is SSDD a fine brainless parrot, he's not even honest enough to tell us where he was cribbing his links and descriptions from.

SSDD, good luck trying to get anyone to fall for your dishonest cherrypicking and misrepresentation. The oceans are CO2 sinks; that's the actual science. Any other well-established science you'd like to overturn by cherrypicking and making crap up? No, not the backradiation again, we've already been over your failure to understand the Second Law.
 
It doesn't matter what is said on this board, you manage to make a comment that is either misinformed, an outright lie, or just plain stupid.

Hey kook, where'd you crib that list of dishonestly misrepresented and cherrypicked links from?

I can check quick, since there are only a couple denier websites willing to lie that brazenly for TheCause. "CO2 science"? Nope. "Principia Scientifica International"? Nope. "The Hockey Schtick" ... DING! WE HAVE A WINNA!

THE HOCKEY SCHTICK: New paper finds rivers and lakes are large net sources of CO2 to the atmosphere

So not only is SSDD a fine brainless parrot, he's not even honest enough to tell us where he was cribbing his links and descriptions from.

You obviously didn't read the papers. Chalk up one more logical fallacy to your never ending stream of them. The fact is that the oceans have been found to be net source of CO2 to the atmosphere precisely as I stated and has been substantiated over and over by ice core data. Warming oceans outgas CO2....fact.

, good luck trying to get anyone to fall for your dishonest cherrypicking and misrepresentation. The oceans are CO2 sinks; that's the actual science.

Sorry admiral hairball...I provided links to the papers themselves...The oceans are net sources of CO2 and the peer reviewed science is on my side...your models fail once again. By the way, are you saying that Nature published a paper finding that rivers and lakes are net sources of CO2 when they know that they aren't? Being a pissy old woman doesn't change the fact that the actual science, as opposed to the models finds that the oceans...and rivers and lakes....and rice patties....and several other claimed CO2 sinks are, in fact, net sources of CO2 to the atmosphere contrary to the pseudoscience making that claim.

other well-established science you'd like to overturn by cherrypicking and making crap up? No, not the backradiation again, we've already been over your failure to understand the Second Law.

Contrary to your belief....model output is not actually well established science...it is well established bullshit..but not science.
 
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And despite all the claims from the AGW church not one of their loyal lobotomized saps has been able to produce one link with datasets and source code that proves their AGW religion.
 
And despite all the claims from the AGW church not one of their loyal lobotomized saps has been able to produce one link with datasets and source code that proves their AGW religion.

Carefully guarded secrets....it that stuff starts getting out, the jig will be up...quicktime....the hoax, and those responsible will be exposed for all to see and at that point, considering the amount of money wasted, and the actual lives lost due to increased energy prices as a result of the pseudoscience...things could get very nasty, very quickly for the ringleaders of the hoax.
 

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