50 years later: has government dependency helped or hurt blacks?

[Asclepias]

You asked a good and reasonable question and (predictably) did not get a straight answer. I'd love to see one.

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I see no use of answering a question from someone that accuses me of lying. Why waste my time answering? He is only going to think I'm lying. Does that make sense?

Since I was not expecting a straight answer, since I never expect straight answers here, I'm not disappointed. No problem.

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Did you ask me a question i did not answer?

 

[naturegirl]

Liar= no credibility.............just saying. Mensa??

Sorry, you lose Asclepias.

 

[Unkotare]

Tagetes patula

= you can't say because you are just talking out your ass AGAIN

You asked a good and reasonable question and (predictably) did not get a straight answer. I'd love to see one.

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Lying and avoiding is more his forte.

 

[Unkotare]

= you can't say because you are just talking out your ass AGAIN

You asked a good and reasonable question and (predictably) did not get a straight answer. I'd love to see one.

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I see no use of answering a question from someone that accuses me of lying. Why waste my time answering? He is only going to think I'm lying. Does that make sense?

Then why do you keep on lying? Does that make sense?

 

[Unkotare]

I wouldnt want to converse with someone that was a liar. Just sayin.

Then why do you keep lying? Are you really so irrational, or just lacking in character?

why do you keep asking questions if I'm only going to lie to you?

So, I guess it's lack of character (not to mention intelligence). You are not representing yourself very well here as an INDIVIDUAL.

 

[Asclepias]

= you can't say because you are just talking out your ass AGAIN

You asked a good and reasonable question and (predictably) did not get a straight answer. I'd love to see one.

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Lying and avoiding is more his forte.

Hemerocallis

 

[ClosedCaption]

So from this thread we've found out that being dependent on govt programs may or may not hurt blacks over the past 50 years. But we aren't allowed to look any further into the past because the past doesn't mean anything. I know, I know...it doesn't make sense but this is what they are saying

Govt dependency can hurt blacks but not legalized racism and discrimination. Only dependency because for this topic, we are discouraged from looking at cause and effect. Only with racism and discrimination tho...not everything else because this is an honest discussion

And whites know all the answers to what blacks need. Even tho this fits the very definition of racism we are discouraged from using words by what they actually mean.

Debating is pretty easy when you make the rules and don't use words as they are clearly defined you silly transvestites. Transvestites means you are confused...

This is fun...but really pointless

 

[Unkotare]

You asked a good and reasonable question and (predictably) did not get a straight answer. I'd love to see one.

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Lying and avoiding is more his forte.

Hemerocallis

...............and your credibility remains at zero.

 

[Unkotare]

Govt dependency can hurt blacks but not legalized racism and discrimination.

Where is there "legalized racism and discrimination" today? Something should be done about that.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Govt dependency can hurt blacks but not legalized racism and discrimination.

Where is there "legalized racism and discrimination" today? Something should be done about that.

Are you denying it exists? Or just concerned with its location?

 

[Asclepias]

Lying and avoiding is more his forte.

Hemerocallis

...............and your credibility remains at zero.

I'm heart broken you doubt my credibility!!

Echinacea

 

[Unkotare]

Govt dependency can hurt blacks but not legalized racism and discrimination.

Where is there "legalized racism and discrimination" today? Something should be done about that.

Are you denying it exists? Or just concerned with its location?

I'm interested in what "legalized" forms you are referring to.

 

[Unkotare]

Hemerocallis

...............and your credibility remains at zero.

I'm heart broken you doubt my credibility!!

I hope not, because you would have a lot more heartache in store. There is no reason for anyone reading this thread to take you at your word after you have repeatedly lied AND admitted to it.

 

[thanatos144]

Where is there "legalized racism and discrimination" today? Something should be done about that.

Are you denying it exists? Or just concerned with its location?

I'm interested in what "legalized" forms you are referring to.

There is affirmative action

 

[ClosedCaption]

Where is there "legalized racism and discrimination" today? Something should be done about that.

Are you denying it exists? Or just concerned with its location?

I'm interested in what "legalized" forms you are referring to.

Ever heard of Jim Crow? I really hope you're getting around to a point or are you going to wait until I say "Its Saturday" then take 4 pages of calling me a liar to deflect like you did the other guy?

Got a point?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Are you denying it exists? Or just concerned with its location?

I'm interested in what "legalized" forms you are referring to.

There is affirmative action

Tell white women to stop taking it and leave some for other people

 

[Oldstyle]

How do YOU think you are going to have a productive conversation with someone if your first action is to accuse their ancestors of being racists? Duh?

You're sure that I had other ancestors who were not quite as honorable? Really? You base that statement on what? Your extensive investigation of my family tree? Or are you basing that statement on your obvious issues with white people?

There are two things you might want to do. Take a look at the title of the thread and the first sentence in my post. I complimented your ancestor that fought to free the slaves. Yes you had ancestors that were not honorable. Everyone does. Sorry if that hurts some unrealistic notion you had about your lineage. I base that on human nature. Its extremely hard to go against whats in your personal best interest. Thats why we have a separate word to describe people like that. Its called being a hero.

I'm rather proud of my "lineage" because they have been honorable. That's not some unrealistic notion that I've had...it's simply the truth. It was drilled into me constantly while growing up that I HAD an honorable name and not to do anything to disgrace it. My father was the moderator of Town Meeting in our town for decades because he was a well respected and honorable man. You seem to feel that all families have scumbags in them. Sorry to disappoint you...

 

[Unkotare]

Are you denying it exists? Or just concerned with its location?

I'm interested in what "legalized" forms you are referring to.

Ever heard of Jim Crow?

Yes I have heard of that legacy of the democrat party, thanks. You noticed that I used the word "today" in my question, right?

 

[Unkotare]

I'm interested in what "legalized" forms you are referring to.

There is affirmative action

Tell white women to stop taking it and leave some for other people

Does that mean you agree that it is "legalized discrimination" or not?

 

[ClosedCaption]

I'm interested in what "legalized" forms you are referring to.

Ever heard of Jim Crow?

Yes I have heard of that legacy of the democrat party, thanks. You noticed that I used the word "today" in my question, right?

I know it's another sad attempt to focus the discussion only the way you want it to go. Are you still concerned with the location of racism anymore?