51% America Makes Less Than $30K

[rdean]

Is that the hope or the change?

But don’t worry, we’re bringing in lots of immigrants who’ll be happy to work for less than even that.

Goodbye Middle Class: 51 Percent Of All American Workers Make Less Than 30,000 Dollars A Year

When Republicans think education is for snobs, what do you expect. They need to learn to become competitive. Stop whining. Stop being lazy. Get an education.

 

[Rustic]

Just like those things you listed, postponing reality you can't do any better than that??

You made a statement.

Municipalities, States and the Federal Government CANNOT provide services that require Facilities, Equipment and Training before becoming operational.
And when spending that money in a GLOBAL economy, it's IMPOSSIBLE to guarantee the money will be there where payments become due.

Sounds like a personal problem??

Nope...a reaction to your statement that nothing should be done without money on hand.
A completely unrealistic position to take.

Your opinion...

Really? You don't live in a city?
There's no way that city started out without owing money.

That is the whole point, we are passed the point of no return.
Game set match.... Game over

 

[Rustic]

Is that the hope or the change?

But don’t worry, we’re bringing in lots of immigrants who’ll be happy to work for less than even that.

Goodbye Middle Class: 51 Percent Of All American Workers Make Less Than 30,000 Dollars A Year

When Republicans think education is for snobs, what do you expect. They need to learn to become competitive. Stop whining. Stop being lazy. Get an education.

So, what's your point??

 

[Indeependent]

You made a statement.

Municipalities, States and the Federal Government CANNOT provide services that require Facilities, Equipment and Training before becoming operational.
And when spending that money in a GLOBAL economy, it's IMPOSSIBLE to guarantee the money will be there where payments become due.

Sounds like a personal problem??

Nope...a reaction to your statement that nothing should be done without money on hand.
A completely unrealistic position to take.

Your opinion...

Really? You don't live in a city?
There's no way that city started out without owing money.

That is the whole point, we are passed the point of no return.
Game set match.... Game over

In other words, you didn't expect anyone to call out your neo-Con nonsense.
Apology accepted.

P.S., Invite me to the next municipality that's built with money on hand that doesn't belong to George Lucas.

 

[Rustic]

Sounds like a personal problem??

Nope...a reaction to your statement that nothing should be done without money on hand.
A completely unrealistic position to take.

Your opinion...

Really? You don't live in a city?
There's no way that city started out without owing money.

That is the whole point, we are passed the point of no return.
Game set match.... Game over

In other words, you didn't expect anyone to call out your neo-Con nonsense.
Apology accepted.

P.S., Invite me to the next municipality that's built with money on hand that doesn't belong to George Lucas.

What done is done we have already lost... The one in debt is an absolute slave to the owed.
No putting a good spin on it...
Your deflection noted...

 

[bripat9643]

Sounds like a personal problem??

Nope...a reaction to your statement that nothing should be done without money on hand.
A completely unrealistic position to take.

Your opinion...

Really? You don't live in a city?
There's no way that city started out without owing money.

Of course they did. Most American cities started simply because a number of people decided to stay in a given location rather than move further West.

You are referring to small Towns and Villages.

You are not referring to modern day cities with reservoirs, gas and electric grids, road, avenues, boulevards, traffic lights, stop signs, police and fire departments, sanitation infrastructure?
Nope, you're referring to Dodge City.
No matter it's origin, there's no city in the US today that adheres to Federal Code that was built with money on hand.

I for one, do not wish to live in a fire trap or flood zone.

All big cities, except for Brasilia, started out as small villages or towns. You said no there's no way a city started out without owing money. Most cities did not get into the habit of borrowing money until the 20th century, so your claim is just flat out wrong.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Welcome to capitalism, baby. Capitalists love cheap labor and there is no such thing as a middle-class in capitalism...

That's not Capitalism Comrade, that's Obamunism - it's what you have wrought upon this once great nation.

No, little friend, that is capitalism, and it is anything but humane.

 

[bripat9643]

Welcome to capitalism, baby. Capitalists love cheap labor and there is no such thing as a middle-class in capitalism...

That's not Capitalism Comrade, that's Obamunism - it's what you have wrought upon this once great nation.

No, little friend, that is capitalism, and it is anything but humane.

Horseshit. America has always had the highest per capita wages in the world, and that's entirely because of capitalism. Cuba and Venezuela are what socialism give you.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Those who rail against capitalism invariably point to government initiated and supported crimes such as monopoly and syndicalism as proof that government is needed to regulate capitalism.

Nope. mostly they point to snake-oil, which a capitalist is more than happy to sell you while exploiting the snakes, the oil, and the people who put both in the bottle, plus the bottle-makers....

 

[Rustic]

Those who rail against capitalism invariably point to government initiated and supported crimes such as monopoly and syndicalism as proof that government is needed to regulate capitalism.

Nope. mostly they point to snake-oil, which a capitalist is more than happy to sell you while exploiting the snakes, the oil, and the people qho put both in the bottle, plus the bottle-makers....

And your form of government works?? How??

 

[Indeependent]

Nope...a reaction to your statement that nothing should be done without money on hand.
A completely unrealistic position to take.

Your opinion...

Really? You don't live in a city?
There's no way that city started out without owing money.

Of course they did. Most American cities started simply because a number of people decided to stay in a given location rather than move further West.

You are referring to small Towns and Villages.

You are not referring to modern day cities with reservoirs, gas and electric grids, road, avenues, boulevards, traffic lights, stop signs, police and fire departments, sanitation infrastructure?
Nope, you're referring to Dodge City.
No matter it's origin, there's no city in the US today that adheres to Federal Code that was built with money on hand.

I for one, do not wish to live in a fire trap or flood zone.

All big cities, except for Brasilia, started out as small villages or towns. You said no there's no way a city started out without owing money. Most cities did not get into the habit of borrowing money until the 20th century, so your claim is just flat out wrong.

Cities vs shitholes.
I assume from another thread you are an engineer and thus you understand what it takes to build a modern or contemporary city.

 

[Billy000]

Of course USMB cons love to blame Obama for this yet they can't name a single policy of his that caused it and are too immature to admit the wealth gap has been widening for decades because of republican policies.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Welcome to capitalism, baby. Capitalists love cheap labor and there is no such thing as a middle-class in capitalism...

That's not Capitalism Comrade, that's Obamunism - it's what you have wrought upon this once great nation.

No, little friend, that is capitalism, and it is anything but humane.

Horseshit. America has always had the highest per capita wages in the world, and that's entirely because of capitalism. Cuba and Venezuela are what socialism give you.

 

[bripat9643]

Those who rail against capitalism invariably point to government initiated and supported crimes such as monopoly and syndicalism as proof that government is needed to regulate capitalism.

Nope. mostly they point to snake-oil, which a capitalist is more than happy to sell you while exploiting the snakes, the oil, and the people who put both in the bottle, plus the bottle-makers....

Politicians have sold $trillions of snake oil. They make any sleazy businessman look like a rank amateur. At least I can educate myself and avoid businesses who try to rip me off. I don't have a choice with government because there are too many morons in the world who lap up the government snake oil like it was champagne.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Of course USMB cons love to blame Obama for this yet they can't name a single policy of his that caused it and are too immature to admit the wealth gap has been widening for decades because of republican policies.

Yeppers...

 

[bripat9643]

Welcome to capitalism, baby. Capitalists love cheap labor and there is no such thing as a middle-class in capitalism...

That's not Capitalism Comrade, that's Obamunism - it's what you have wrought upon this once great nation.

No, little friend, that is capitalism, and it is anything but humane.

Horseshit. America has always had the highest per capita wages in the world, and that's entirely because of capitalism. Cuba and Venezuela are what socialism give you.

Your point? Except for the oil sheikdoms, they're all capitalist countries.

 

[bripat9643]

Your opinion...

Really? You don't live in a city?
There's no way that city started out without owing money.

Of course they did. Most American cities started simply because a number of people decided to stay in a given location rather than move further West.

You are referring to small Towns and Villages.

You are not referring to modern day cities with reservoirs, gas and electric grids, road, avenues, boulevards, traffic lights, stop signs, police and fire departments, sanitation infrastructure?
Nope, you're referring to Dodge City.
No matter it's origin, there's no city in the US today that adheres to Federal Code that was built with money on hand.

I for one, do not wish to live in a fire trap or flood zone.

All big cities, except for Brasilia, started out as small villages or towns. You said no there's no way a city started out without owing money. Most cities did not get into the habit of borrowing money until the 20th century, so your claim is just flat out wrong.

Cities vs shitholes.
I assume from another thread you are an engineer and thus you understand what it takes to build a modern or contemporary city.

You said all cities STARTED in debt. Whether they can become the size of New York without borrowing money is another matter.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Welcome to capitalism, baby. Capitalists love cheap labor and there is no such thing as a middle-class in capitalism...

That's not Capitalism Comrade, that's Obamunism - it's what you have wrought upon this once great nation.

No, little friend, that is capitalism, and it is anything but humane.

Horseshit. America has always had the highest per capita wages in the world, and that's entirely because of capitalism. Cuba and Venezuela are what socialism give you.

Your point? Except for the oil sheikdoms, they're all capitalist countries.

America is not the highest, by a long fucking shot...

 

[bripat9643]

That's not Capitalism Comrade, that's Obamunism - it's what you have wrought upon this once great nation.

No, little friend, that is capitalism, and it is anything but humane.

Horseshit. America has always had the highest per capita wages in the world, and that's entirely because of capitalism. Cuba and Venezuela are what socialism give you.

Your point? Except for the oil sheikdoms, they're all capitalist countries.

America is not the highest, by a long fucking shot...

It no longer is because it is quickly swirling down the socialist toilet bowl, thanks to Obama. #2, #3, and #4 are all very capitalist countries. Qatar is sitting over an ocean of oil. It's wealth has nothing to do with the sort of economics it practices.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No, little friend, that is capitalism, and it is anything but humane.

Horseshit. America has always had the highest per capita wages in the world, and that's entirely because of capitalism. Cuba and Venezuela are what socialism give you.

Your point? Except for the oil sheikdoms, they're all capitalist countries.

America is not the highest, by a long fucking shot...

It no longer is because it is quickly swirling down the socialist toilet bowl, thanks to Obama. #2, #3, and #4 are all very capitalist countries. Qatar is sitting over an ocean of oil. It's wealth has nothing to do with the sort of economics it practices.

Capitalism in America has done some very good things, and some very bad ones. Obama hasn't changed that in the slightest.