51 Documents: Hitler's Zionist Helpers

[Marc39]

You're projecting.

How many civilian Arabs living under Israeli law are legally entitled to bear arms?

As many as have licenses, clueless one.

 

[georgephillip]

Was the Jewish National Fund established on the principle of racial superiority?

Er, no, since all Israeli citizens, including Arabs, have the same access to owning and leasing land.

In fact, Bedouins receive special privileges on land not offered to Jews.

Jews are not permitted to own land in most Arab and Muslim countries and Christians cannot own land in Saudi Arabia.

Thus, you're a clueless dimwit, as usual.

"Jonathan Cook
Al-Ahram Weekly
December 14-20, 2006

"Arabs in Israel call for a 'state of all its citizens' to replace Jewish-only policies, writes Jonathan Cook in Nazareth.

"The official political leadership of Israel's more than one million Palestinian citizens issued a manifesto in Nazareth last week demanding a raft of changes to end the systematic discrimination exercised against non-Jews by the state since its creation nearly six decades ago..."

"Another controversial demand is for a radical overhaul of the system of land policy and planning in Israel, described in the manifesto as 'the most sensitive issue' between Palestinian citizens and their state.

"Israel has nationalised 93 per cent of the territory inside its vague borders, holding it in trust not for its citizens but for the Jewish people worldwide.

We Didn't Disappear

 

[Marc39]

Was the Jewish National Fund established on the principle of racial superiority?

Er, no, since all Israeli citizens, including Arabs, have the same access to owning and leasing land.

In fact, Bedouins receive special privileges on land not offered to Jews.

Jews are not permitted to own land in most Arab and Muslim countries and Christians cannot own land in Saudi Arabia.

Thus, you're a clueless dimwit, as usual.

Arab American Journalist Joseph Farah: Why Arabs Love Israel

Arab American Journalist Joseph Farah...
Far from being mistreated, the Arab population in Israel and in the territories administered by Israel has been freer than the population in any Arab state. Arabs in Israel vote. They elect leaders to the Knesset. They have their own political parties. They have their own newspapers. They have full rights to citizenship. They are free to speak their minds. As an Arab-American journalist who has spent a good deal of time covering the region, I can tell you there is more freedom for Arabs in Israel than in any Arab state.

Land cannot possibly be the contentious issue as the Arab and Muslim states in the region already have 800 times as much territory as Israel. The Arabs have 50 times the population of Israel. The Arabs have all of the oil reserves of the region. They have 21 states of their own – all varying shades of police states. It's difficult to imagine how one more will bring peace to a region that has known some of the most devastating and costly wars of the last century.

If conditions for Arabs are so bad in Israel, why is the Arab population exploding -- and I don't mean because of suicide bombers? Why do Arabs continue to flock to the tiny Jewish state from virtually every Arab and Muslim land in the world? In 1949, the Arab population of Israel was about 160,000. Today, it is over 1.2 million. This is hardly attributable to higher birth rates. Most of the growth in Arab population is due to migration. In other words, Arabs are picking up stakes in Arab lands and choosing to live in Israel.
This trend, of course, doesn't include Arab Jewish migration to Israel. No one talks about the staggering number of Arab Jewish refugees – as many as 1 million – who fled the Muslim world with little more than the clothes on their backs to reach the safety and security of the Jewish state in the last 50 years. We're led to believe Arabs hate Israel – and, indeed, it's true there is an irrational, inexplicable form of virulent anti-Semitism growing in the Arab and Muslim world. But when they vote with their feet, Arabs seem to love Israel. They continue to choose it as a place to live over life in their native countries as they have for the last half-century.

Why Arabs love Israel

 

[georgephillip]

Farah claims in 1949 about 160,000 Arabs lived in Israel while today 1.2 million Arabs reside there.

Why didn't he mention 1948 figures showing 1.35 million Arabs living in Mandate Palestine?

Why don't you and other propagandists mention the ethnic flavor of Israel's democracy?

"The most contentious issue raised in the document, called 'The Future Vision of the Palestinian Arabs in Israel, is Israel's status as a Jewish state. The authors – leading academics and community activists – argue that Israel is not a democracy but an 'ethnocracy' similar to Turkey, Sri Lanka and the Baltic states."

"Instead, says the manifesto, Israel must become a 'consensual democracy' enabling Palestinian citizens 'to be fully active in the decision-making process and guarantee our individual and collective civil, historic and national rights.'

An editorial in Israel's liberal Haaretz newspaper denounced the document as 'undermining the Jewish character of the state' and argued that it was likely its publication would 'actually weaken the standing of Arabs in Israel instead of strengthening it'".

We Didn't Disappear

 

[Marc39]

Farah claims in 1949 about 160,000 Arabs lived in Israel while today 1.2 million Arabs reside there.

Why didn't he mention 1948 figures showing 1.35 million Arabs living in Mandate Palestine?

Arabs were illegal aliens, little Georgie. Palestine is Jewish land. Arabs originated in Arabia.

The League of Nations agreed...

Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country

Allah agrees...
Quran 5:20-21...

Remember Moses said to his people: 'O my people! Recall in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

Barack Obama agrees...:

Israel is a sovereign state, and the historic homeland of the Jewish people.

It should be clear to all that efforts to chip away at Israel's legitimacy will only be met by the unshakeable opposition of the United States. The slaughter of innocent Israelis is not resistance -- it's injustice

Remarks by the President to the United Nations General Assembly | The White House


Winston Churchill agreed...:

The Jews had Palestine before that indigenous population [the Arabs] came in and inhabited it

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The US Congress agrees...

The United States Congressional Record
1922 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NATIONAL HOME FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE JUNE 30, 1922
HOUSE RESOLUTION 360 - UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED

Palestine of today, the land we now know as Palestine, was peopled by the Jews from the dawn of history until the Roman era. It is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. They were driven from it by force by the relentless Roman military machine and for centuries prevented from returning. At different periods various alien people succeeded them but the Jewish race had left an indelible impress upon the land.

Today it is a Jewish country. Every name, every landmark, every monument and every trace of whatever civilization remaining there is still Jewish. And it has ever since remained a hope, a longing, as expressed in their prayers for these nearly 2,000 years. No other people has ever claimed Palestine as their national home. No other people has ever shown an aptitude or indicated a genuine desire to make it their homeland. The land has been ruled by foreigners. Only since the beginning of the modern Zionist effort may it be said that a creative, cultural, and economic force has entered Palestine. The Jewish Nation was forced from its natural home. It did not go because it wanted to.

A perusal of Jewish history, a reading of Josephus, will convince the most skeptical that the grandest fight that was ever put up against an enemy was put up by the Jew. He never thought of leaving Palestine. But he was driven out. But did he, when driven out, give up his hope of getting back? Jewish history and Jewish literature give the answer to the question. The Jew even has a fast day devoted to the day of destruction of the Jewish homeland.

Never throughout history did they give up hope of returning there. I am told that 90 per cent of the Jews today are praying for the return of the Jewish people to its own home. The best minds among them believe in the necessity of reestablishing their Jewish land. To my mind there is something prophetic in the fact that during the ages no other nation has taken over Palestine and held it in the sense of a homeland; and there is something providential in the fact that for 1,800 years it has remained in desolation as if waiting for the return of the people.

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[Marc39]

Israel is not a democracy but an ethnocracy

Israel is a democracy, little Georgie. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.

Israel: Free and fair elections. Open society. Free press. Independent judiciary.

Run along, little Georgie.

 

[georgephillip]

You should mention that to Jonathan Cook, Edwin.

"In all likelihood, I will be one of the very first non-Jews expected to swear loyalty to Israel as an ideology rather than as a state.

"Until now, naturalising residents, like the country’s soldiers, pledged an oath to Israel and its laws.

"That is the situation in most countries.

"But soon, if the Israeli parliament passes a bill being advanced by the government, aspiring citizens will instead be required to uphold the Zionist majority’s presumption that Israel is a 'Jewish and democratic state'”.

Currently 1.5 million Arabs "live" in Gaza.
3.8 million Arabs live in Israel and the West Bank.
About 5.8 million Jews call Israel home today.

What happens when Israel has to choose between being democratic and being Jewish?

Follow the money?

My oath...

 

[Marc39]

You should mention that to Jonathan Cook, Edwin.

Cook is bogus, stupid boy.

This is why you are severely uneducated

 

[georgephillip]

You're embarrassingly amateurish in most of your responses, even by hasbara standards.

Try reading.

 

[Marc39]

You're embarrassingly amateurish in most of your responses, even by hasbara standards.

Try reading.

Coming from an empty vessel like you? Thanks for the chuckle.

 

[georgephillip]

About one month after the 60,000 members of the Central Union of German Citizen of Jewish Faith issued their statement saying reports of Nazi atrocities against Jews were "pure invention", Lilian Mowrer heard Hitler proclaim publicly, "Our enemies will be brutally and ruthlessly exterminated."

"Mowrer thought she must have misheard. The leader of a great nation wouldn't say something like that...

"And then the nighttime disappearances and beatings began, the murders, she wrote, 'of hundreds and hundreds done in cold blood by sexual sadists and lads not out of their teens, upon orders of "party superiors."'

"Then the yellow signs went up on Jewish-owned stores.

Waving her American passport, Mowrer pushed through human chains of storm troopers and shopped 'till she dropped in every Jewish store she could find.

"It was April 1933."

"How could this be happening? she wondered.
"The country was calm.
"The streets were clean.
"Traffic flowed smoothly.

"'Germans are among the most likable people in Europe and surely average no greater number of bullies and sadists than any other nation,'" she wrote.

"'The difference was that Hitler's regime was built on sadists and bullies, from the top down.'"

Copyright 2008 by Nicholson Baker
Human Smoke:The Beginnings of WWII, the End of Civilization.
pp. 35-36

 

[Marc39]

About one month after the 60,000 members of the Central Union of German Citizen of Jewish Faith issued their statement saying reports of Nazi atrocities against Jews were "pure invention", Lilian Mowrer heard Hitler proclaim publicly, "Our enemies will be brutally and ruthlessly exterminated."

"Mowrer thought she must have misheard. The leader of a great nation wouldn't say something like that...

"And then the nighttime disappearances and beatings began, the murders, she wrote, 'of hundreds and hundreds done in cold blood by sexual sadists and lads not out of their teens, upon orders of "party superiors."'

"Then the yellow signs went up on Jewish-owned stores.

Waving her American passport, Mowrer pushed through human chains of storm troopers and shopped 'till she dropped in every Jewish store she could find.

"It was April 1933."

"How could this be happening? she wondered.
"The country was calm.
"The streets were clean.
"Traffic flowed smoothly.

"'Germans are among the most likable people in Europe and surely average no greater number of bullies and sadists than any other nation,'" she wrote.

"'The difference was that Hitler's regime was built on sadists and bullies, from the top down.'"

Copyright 2008 by Nicholson Baker
Human Smoke:The Beginnings of WWII, the End of Civilization.
pp. 35-36

BOGUS.
No reputational points for you.

 

[georgephillip]

You're embarrassingly amateurish in most of your responses, even by hasbara standards.

Try reading.

Coming from an empty vessel like you? Thanks for the chuckle.

'Hope you choke on it, hasbara.

 

[Marc39]

You're embarrassingly amateurish in most of your responses, even by hasbara standards.

Try reading.

Coming from an empty vessel like you? Thanks for the chuckle.

'Hope you choke on it, hasbara.

Two words, psycho: Anger Management

 

[georgephillip]

"In 1933, the Zionistischen Vereinigung für Deutschland, the German Zionist Federation, sent a secret message to the Nazis:

'May we therefore be permitted to present our views, which, in our opinion, make possible a solution in keeping with the principles of the new German State of National Awakening....

"'It is our opinion that an answer to the Jewish question truly satisfying to the national state can be brought about only with the collaboration of the Jewish movement that aims at a social, cultural, and moral renewal of Jewry....

"'Zionism believes that a rebirth of national life, such as is occurring in German life through adhesion to Christian and national values, must also take place in the Jewish national group....

"'On the foundation of the new state, which has established the principle of race, we wish so to fit our community into the total structure so that for us too, in the sphere assigned to us, fruitful activity for the Fatherland is possible....

"'Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities....

"'[W]e do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the Jewish group."'"

"...the collaboration of the Jewish movement...

"...foundation of the new state which has established the principle of race...

'...we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the Jewish group."

Apparently the German Zionist Federation had their share of racists, bullies and sadists too.

The Plot

 

[Marc39]

"In 1933, the Zionistischen Vereinigung für Deutschland, the German Zionist Federation, sent a secret message to the Nazis:
counterpunch

BOGUS website, little Georgie.

 

[georgephillip]

Still waiting for your Wiki, Edwin.

What's your impression of Uri Avnery?

"I was surprised when, towards the end of 1975, I received an invitation from the Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin, to meet him at his residence. He opened the door himself, poured me a glass of whiskey, poured one for himself, and without any further ado asked me: 'Tell me, Uri, have you decided to destroy all the doves in the Labor Party?'

Some weeks before, my magazine, Haolam Hazeh ('This World'), had started to publish disclosures about the corrupt dealings of the candidate for President of the Central Bank, Asher Yadlin.

"On the eve of the conversation, we had also started to publish suspicions concerning the Minister of Housing, Avraham Ofer. Both were leaders of the Labor 'doves'

"I answered that, unfortunately, I could not offer immunity to corrupt politicians, even if their political positions were close to mine. These are separate matters."

Do you even care if occupation and political corruption are not "separate matters."

 

[Marc39]

counterpunch.org

BOGUS website.

occupation

Israel is occupying...Israel.

The League of Nations agreed...

Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country

Allah agrees...
Quran 5:20-21...

Remember Moses said to his people: 'O my people! Recall in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

Barack Obama agrees...:

Israel is a sovereign state, and the historic homeland of the Jewish people.

It should be clear to all that efforts to chip away at Israel's legitimacy will only be met by the unshakeable opposition of the United States. The slaughter of innocent Israelis is not resistance -- it's injustice

Remarks by the President to the United Nations General Assembly | The White House


Winston Churchill agreed...:

The Jews had Palestine before that indigenous population [the Arabs] came in and inhabited it

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Churchill-Jews-Friendship-Martin-Gilbert/dp/0805078800]Amazon.com: Churchill and the Jews: A Lifelong Friendship (9780805078800): Martin Gilbert: Books: Reviews, Prices & more[/ame]

The US Congress agrees...

The United States Congressional Record
1922 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NATIONAL HOME FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE JUNE 30, 1922
HOUSE RESOLUTION 360 - UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED

Palestine of today, the land we now know as Palestine, was peopled by the Jews from the dawn of history until the Roman era. It is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. They were driven from it by force by the relentless Roman military machine and for centuries prevented from returning. At different periods various alien people succeeded them but the Jewish race had left an indelible impress upon the land.

Today it is a Jewish country. Every name, every landmark, every monument and every trace of whatever civilization remaining there is still Jewish. And it has ever since remained a hope, a longing, as expressed in their prayers for these nearly 2,000 years. No other people has ever claimed Palestine as their national home. No other people has ever shown an aptitude or indicated a genuine desire to make it their homeland. The land has been ruled by foreigners. Only since the beginning of the modern Zionist effort may it be said that a creative, cultural, and economic force has entered Palestine. The Jewish Nation was forced from its natural home. It did not go because it wanted to.

A perusal of Jewish history, a reading of Josephus, will convince the most skeptical that the grandest fight that was ever put up against an enemy was put up by the Jew. He never thought of leaving Palestine. But he was driven out. But did he, when driven out, give up his hope of getting back? Jewish history and Jewish literature give the answer to the question. The Jew even has a fast day devoted to the day of destruction of the Jewish homeland.

Never throughout history did they give up hope of returning there. I am told that 90 per cent of the Jews today are praying for the return of the Jewish people to its own home. The best minds among them believe in the necessity of reestablishing their Jewish land. To my mind there is something prophetic in the fact that during the ages no other nation has taken over Palestine and held it in the sense of a homeland; and there is something providential in the fact that for 1,800 years it has remained in desolation as if waiting for the return of the people.

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[georgephillip]

CounterPunch

Still waiting for your proof of "bogus" and your Wiki?

btw, is Avnery wrong about "reception committees" or 'communal localities'?

"A Knesset committee has just adopted a law that enables 'reception committees' of 'communal localities' with less than 500 families to refuse would-be residents not to their liking.

"The law, which will come into force in a matter of days, is designed to circumvent the judgment of the Supreme Court forbidding the refusal to admit Arabs.

"The wording of the law is a masterpiece of verbal acrobatics, in order to avoid the use of the word 'Arab'.

"But the meaning is clear to everybody."

With the possible exception of "Princeton" whores?

And other pussies.

The Occupation..

 

[Marc39]

CounterPunch

Still waiting for your proof of "bogus" and your Wiki?

If I say it's bogus, it's bogus. I'm your daddy.