58 straight months of jobs growth, ACA working great where allowed to, where is this bad economy?

[Oldstyle]

The only problem is, with inflation factored in, the American people only got a 1% raise last year.

What is the GOP plan to raise wages?

Send jobs to China. That's what they did under Bush. And cut taxes on the few left over that have jobs.

They? One of the people who sent more jobs to China than practically anyone else was Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of General Electric. Gee, guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"! So how was that W's fault again? Your head in the sand stupidity is ENDLESS!

How many years did us liberals tell you Republican idiots or liars that GE and every other corporation wasn't paying their fair share of taxes and you guys only accidentally admitted to it BC he's Obama's czar?

You are also proving our point that it isn't lazy greedy liberals ruining America, its corporations. The rich. They own our entire government.

But Republicans are incapable of pointing fingers at corporations they are brainwashed to worship them so this will never be fixed because the sheep are completely brainwashed

So R-Derp claims that it was the GOP and their friends who were sending all the jobs to China...and I simply point out that one of the biggest exporters of jobs to China was GE, which was headed by Jeffrey Immeldt, who's such good buddies with Obama that he was the man chosen to be Barry's "Jobs Czar. The fact that same huge corporation who's head is a die hard Obama supporter also didn't pay diddly for taxes just points out that this isn't a Republican issue...but an issue that Democrats are just as guilty of playing crony capitalism as the Republicans are.

Nice irrelevant anecdote, dupe. GOP STILL defending tax loopholes for those exporting jobs to the death...

Pointing pointing out that Jeffrey Immelt as the CEO of General Electric probably exported more jobs to China than just about any American corporate leader isn't an "anecdote"...it's a fact. It's also a fact that Barack Obama choose THAT GUY to be his Jobs Czar...something that borders on farce.

 

[Ame®icano]

"58 straight months of jobs growth"

And 93.7 million not in workforce, 14 million more not working then in 2008. LINK

 

[Papageorgio]

People who start small businesses or who are entrepreneurs tend to not show up on the books cause they don't pay taxes.

I'm calling bullshit. Get me proof for your accusation because I have worked with, for and around small businesses and entrepreneurs and they all register legally and pay taxes and local fees and stay with in federal and state guidelines.

Again, you got proof show it or I am considering your accusation a bunch of bullshit.

You think they leave a paper trail?

I have lots of small business friends. Pay cash they give you a break. They don't report that money.

Do I also need to prove to you that thousands of illegal employers hire millions of illegal workers?

So you are full of it. Thanks, I took cash and tracked it all. Also many of those I knew or did business with did the same. Just because you pay cash doesn't mean they don't record it.

 

[sealybobo]

Send jobs to China. That's what they did under Bush. And cut taxes on the few left over that have jobs.

They? One of the people who sent more jobs to China than practically anyone else was Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of General Electric. Gee, guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"! So how was that W's fault again? Your head in the sand stupidity is ENDLESS!

How many years did us liberals tell you Republican idiots or liars that GE and every other corporation wasn't paying their fair share of taxes and you guys only accidentally admitted to it BC he's Obama's czar?

You are also proving our point that it isn't lazy greedy liberals ruining America, its corporations. The rich. They own our entire government.

But Republicans are incapable of pointing fingers at corporations they are brainwashed to worship them so this will never be fixed because the sheep are completely brainwashed

So R-Derp claims that it was the GOP and their friends who were sending all the jobs to China...and I simply point out that one of the biggest exporters of jobs to China was GE, which was headed by Jeffrey Immeldt, who's such good buddies with Obama that he was the man chosen to be Barry's "Jobs Czar. The fact that same huge corporation who's head is a die hard Obama supporter also didn't pay diddly for taxes just points out that this isn't a Republican issue...but an issue that Democrats are just as guilty of playing crony capitalism as the Republicans are.

Nice irrelevant anecdote, dupe. GOP STILL defending tax loopholes for those exporting jobs to the death...

Pointing pointing out that Jeffrey Immelt as the CEO of General Electric probably exported more jobs to China than just about any American corporate leader isn't an "anecdote"...it's a fact. It's also a fact that Barack Obama choose THAT GUY to be his Jobs Czar...something that borders on farce.

That guy chose Obama to be president probably.

Don't you Republicans trust and like corporate America pulling our politicians strings? So now you favor American companies that pay American wages? Isn't that going to raise the cost of things?

I'm glad you Republicans are starting to see things clearly. And I'm okay if Union companies want to pack up and go down south to red state but for them to go to Mexico China or India is unacceptable.

PS. Remember Republicans argued when we said corporations for pain zero taxes. Isn't it funny now that Obama's economies are is a GE CEO Republicans are finally willing to admit that GE and many other companies are not paying their fair share of taxes

 

[Oldstyle]

They? One of the people who sent more jobs to China than practically anyone else was Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of General Electric. Gee, guess who Barack Obama made his "Jobs Czar"! So how was that W's fault again? Your head in the sand stupidity is ENDLESS!

How many years did us liberals tell you Republican idiots or liars that GE and every other corporation wasn't paying their fair share of taxes and you guys only accidentally admitted to it BC he's Obama's czar?

You are also proving our point that it isn't lazy greedy liberals ruining America, its corporations. The rich. They own our entire government.

But Republicans are incapable of pointing fingers at corporations they are brainwashed to worship them so this will never be fixed because the sheep are completely brainwashed

So R-Derp claims that it was the GOP and their friends who were sending all the jobs to China...and I simply point out that one of the biggest exporters of jobs to China was GE, which was headed by Jeffrey Immeldt, who's such good buddies with Obama that he was the man chosen to be Barry's "Jobs Czar. The fact that same huge corporation who's head is a die hard Obama supporter also didn't pay diddly for taxes just points out that this isn't a Republican issue...but an issue that Democrats are just as guilty of playing crony capitalism as the Republicans are.

Nice irrelevant anecdote, dupe. GOP STILL defending tax loopholes for those exporting jobs to the death...

Pointing pointing out that Jeffrey Immelt as the CEO of General Electric probably exported more jobs to China than just about any American corporate leader isn't an "anecdote"...it's a fact. It's also a fact that Barack Obama choose THAT GUY to be his Jobs Czar...something that borders on farce.

That guy chose Obama to be president probably.

Don't you Republicans trust and like corporate America pulling our politicians strings? So now you favor American companies that pay American wages? Isn't that going to raise the cost of things?

I'm glad you Republicans are starting to see things clearly. And I'm okay if Union companies want to pack up and go down south to red state but for them to go to Mexico China or India is unacceptable.

PS. Remember Republicans argued when we said corporations for pain zero taxes. Isn't it funny now that Obama's economies are is a GE CEO Republicans are finally willing to admit that GE and many other companies are not paying their fair share of taxes

With all due respect...did that make sense when you were typing it?

 

[Oldstyle]

Look, Sealy...this really isn't rocket science. American corporations compete in a global economy. If you burden them with too many regulations, things like the ACA and things like ridiculous $15 an hour minimum wages for unskilled labor...then they WILL build that new factory somewhere else.

 

[sealybobo]

Look, Sealy...this really isn't rocket science. American corporations compete in a global economy. If you burden them with too many regulations, things like the ACA and things like ridiculous $15 an hour minimum wages for unskilled labor...then they WILL build that new factory somewhere else.

If you don't tariff their imports sure they will.

 

[Oldstyle]

And the only thing I've pointed out about GE is that they've done everything that the far left HATES...and their CEO was best pals with Barry. So all that "talk" that was coming from this administration about fighting against corporate greed has to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt considering Obama's relationship with Immelt.

 

[sealybobo]

Look, Sealy...this really isn't rocket science. American corporations compete in a global economy. If you burden them with too many regulations, things like the ACA and things like ridiculous $15 an hour minimum wages for unskilled labor...then they WILL build that new factory somewhere else.

Why don't they go to Mississippi Arkansas Oklahoma Texas or any other red state? Instead of mexico India or china?

 

[Oldstyle]

Look, Sealy...this really isn't rocket science. American corporations compete in a global economy. If you burden them with too many regulations, things like the ACA and things like ridiculous $15 an hour minimum wages for unskilled labor...then they WILL build that new factory somewhere else.

If you don't tariff their imports sure they will.

Come on, Sealy...tell me you learned about Smoot Hawley when you were in college!

 

[Oldstyle]

Look, Sealy...this really isn't rocket science. American corporations compete in a global economy. If you burden them with too many regulations, things like the ACA and things like ridiculous $15 an hour minimum wages for unskilled labor...then they WILL build that new factory somewhere else.

Why don't they go to Mississippi Arkansas Oklahoma Texas or any other red state? Instead of mexico India or china?

Well, let's look at what happened when Boeing tried to leave the Pacific North West and build a new factory in South Carolina! What was the response from this Administration to that, Sealy?

 

[Papageorgio]

And the only thing I've pointed out about GE is that they've done everything that the far left HATES...and their CEO was best pals with Barry. So all that "talk" that was coming from this administration about fighting against corporate greed has to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt considering Obama's relationship with Immelt.

Yep, democrats are no different than republicans. They payoff government for special favors. The only difference is the democratic base isn't smart enough to realize they are corrupt.

 

[Oldstyle]

And the only thing I've pointed out about GE is that they've done everything that the far left HATES...and their CEO was best pals with Barry. So all that "talk" that was coming from this administration about fighting against corporate greed has to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt considering Obama's relationship with Immelt.

Yep, democrats are no different than republicans. They payoff government for special favors. The only difference is the democratic base isn't smart enough to realize they are corrupt.

Yet the R-Derp's and the Franco's of this board are absolutely convinced that the only politicians in the pockets of big business are Republicans.

 

[sealybobo]

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Look, Sealy...this really isn't rocket science. American corporations compete in a global economy. If you burden them with too many regulations, things like the ACA and things like ridiculous $15 an hour minimum wages for unskilled labor...then they WILL build that new factory somewhere else.

Why don't they go to Mississippi Arkansas Oklahoma Texas or any other red state? Instead of mexico India or china?

Well, let's look at what happened when Boeing tried to leave the Pacific North West and build a new factory in South Carolina! What was the response from this Administration to that, Sealy?

Don't know but I do remember back in Bush's days they gave a big contract to a European company. Was it Lockheed Martin? I don't remember if the gov ended up giving the contract to Boeing BC of the pressure.

You shouldn't outsource defense manufacturing or pharmaceutical but we have.

 

[sealybobo]

And the only thing I've pointed out about GE is that they've done everything that the far left HATES...and their CEO was best pals with Barry. So all that "talk" that was coming from this administration about fighting against corporate greed has to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt considering Obama's relationship with Immelt.

Yep, democrats are no different than republicans. They payoff government for special favors. The only difference is the democratic base isn't smart enough to realize they are corrupt.

Yet the R-Derp's and the Franco's of this board are absolutely convinced that the only politicians in the pockets of big business are Republicans.

Make up your minds. Do the rich own and control our government or not?

You Republicans defend the very rich and powerful that own you.

 

[boedicca]

The economy is not generating enough jobs to keep up with population growth.

Bullshit!
It only takes 111,853 jobs per month to keep up with population growth and Obama is generating double that number.

Jobs Calculator - Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta

You aren't allowing for all the illegal immigrants he is letting into the country, bub.

You are also assuming that the cratered LFPR is a good thing.

The inflow of illegal GOP/Chamber of Commerce laborers is equal to the outflow.
Try again.

The drop in LPR is due to changing demographics, not the economy.
Try again.

I've already proven that you are wrong with the LFPR rate change by age cohort. So, you lose.

 

[sealybobo]

And the only thing I've pointed out about GE is that they've done everything that the far left HATES...and their CEO was best pals with Barry. So all that "talk" that was coming from this administration about fighting against corporate greed has to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt considering Obama's relationship with Immelt.

Yep, democrats are no different than republicans. They payoff government for special favors. The only difference is the democratic base isn't smart enough to realize they are corrupt.

Think of it this way. Republicans are no different than Democrats, only occasionally Democrats protect American workers.

 

[francoHFW]

Nice irrelevant anecdote, dupe. GOP STILL defending tax loopholes for those exporting jobs to the death...

How does a flat tax defend loopholes, if your for profit, you pay just like everyone else

GOP politicians defend loopholes and low taxes on the rich and corps to the death. The flat tax has nothing to do with this and is a bs dream for dupes only.

Yea flat taxes are totally fucking Russia up...except it grew their economy by 10 percent, and they gained a 50% increase in tax recites for the government. But yea flat tax is just dumb, our 100 year old war time tax with all these loopholes that I'm complaining about is much better. Flat tax is just another scheme for the rich somehow...even though it doesn't discriminate like ours does. But yea democrats will save the day and get rid of loopholes, even though they've had 100 years to do so...and getting rid of tax loopholes is a very popular idea that a large majority of republicans agree with

A large majority of GOPers also have no clue what the GOP does.

I can agree with that, but saying the dems are any better and not the ones getting rich while in office is naive. I read an article a while ago with the richest politicians in legislation and like 8 out of 10 we're dems. You ever notice how when politicians get elected they all of a sudden get real good at a real estate deals and trading stock? I wonder why that is

Doesn't matter how rich they are, it's the policies they're for. Ay caramba.

 

[francoHFW]

Back in 2008 with the corrupt Boooshies and their bubble bust as usual...GOP voters are totally misinformed by megarich greedy lying Pubs and their bs media. Will they never learn?
The GOP s Job Killer Problem With Obamacare - ABC News

BAD ECONOMY:

(1) Less home ownership
(2) Jobs consist of low wage, part-time, and temporary employment
(3) Businesses are offering less company paid benefits
(4) The cost of living to real wage ratio
(5) Higher health care cost
(6) Higher rent, utilities, and food cost
(7) Student loan debt
(8) 50% of children living at or below the poverty line
(9) Approximately 47 million receiving food stamps
(10) An astronomical and rising national debt
(11) Savings accounts paying .25% interest
(12) Troubled pension funds
(13) Cities going bankrupt
(14) Malls closing
(15) Retail chains closing stores
(16) Consumer spending down
(17) Our rundown infrastructure
(18) Growing gap between the rich and the poor
(19) The decline of the Middle Class
(20) Millions receiving some form of government assistance
(21) College grads working at low wage jobs and living with parents
(22) The cost of higher education
(23) Our dependency on cheap foreign imports
(24) Businesses off-shore out-sourcing jobs and importing labor
(25) The influx of cheap illegal immigrant labor
(26) Lost home equity
(27) Government debt keeping the economy afloat
(28) Technology, automation, and innovation replacing workers
(29) Men, women, children, and families homeless
(30) Many working and still receiving some form of government assistance

Yep, we're doing great. Economically, we're booming, and things couldn't be better. We're experiencing economic growth and stability. America is working, and the wheels of commerce are turning full speed. We have an internal cash flow unmatched anywhere in the world. As a matter of fact, we're doing so great, that we're giving away multi-$Billions to foreign governments, engaging in senseless deadly costly wars, and providing care and support for millions of illegal immigrants. What more could we ask for?

What's funny is these sh*tstain progressives complain about many of the things on your list about how screwed up our economy is, usually on threads meant to attack capitalism in general. Yet when it comes to the Hussein and his record, suddenly they are trying to convince everyone what a wonderful job he is doing.

He would have done a lot better without 6 years of mindless Pub obstruction and shutdown threats...that Foxbots etc etc don't seem to know about...

 

[boedicca]

Back in 2008 with the corrupt Boooshies and their bubble bust as usual...GOP voters are totally misinformed by megarich greedy lying Pubs and their bs media. Will they never learn?
The GOP s Job Killer Problem With Obamacare - ABC News

BAD ECONOMY:

(1) Less home ownership
(2) Jobs consist of low wage, part-time, and temporary employment
(3) Businesses are offering less company paid benefits
(4) The cost of living to real wage ratio
(5) Higher health care cost
(6) Higher rent, utilities, and food cost
(7) Student loan debt
(8) 50% of children living at or below the poverty line
(9) Approximately 47 million receiving food stamps
(10) An astronomical and rising national debt
(11) Savings accounts paying .25% interest
(12) Troubled pension funds
(13) Cities going bankrupt
(14) Malls closing
(15) Retail chains closing stores
(16) Consumer spending down
(17) Our rundown infrastructure
(18) Growing gap between the rich and the poor
(19) The decline of the Middle Class
(20) Millions receiving some form of government assistance
(21) College grads working at low wage jobs and living with parents
(22) The cost of higher education
(23) Our dependency on cheap foreign imports
(24) Businesses off-shore out-sourcing jobs and importing labor
(25) The influx of cheap illegal immigrant labor
(26) Lost home equity
(27) Government debt keeping the economy afloat
(28) Technology, automation, and innovation replacing workers
(29) Men, women, children, and families homeless
(30) Many working and still receiving some form of government assistance

Yep, we're doing great. Economically, we're booming, and things couldn't be better. We're experiencing economic growth and stability. America is working, and the wheels of commerce are turning full speed. We have an internal cash flow unmatched anywhere in the world. As a matter of fact, we're doing so great, that we're giving away multi-$Billions to foreign governments, engaging in senseless deadly costly wars, and providing care and support for millions of illegal immigrants. What more could we ask for?

What's funny is these sh*tstain progressives complain about many of the things on your list about how screwed up our economy is, usually on threads meant to attack capitalism in general. Yet when it comes to the Hussein and his record, suddenly they are trying to convince everyone what a wonderful job he is doing.

He would have done a lot better without 6 years of mindless Pub obstruction and shutdown threats...that Foxbots etc etc don't seem to know about...

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