6 dead , 3 wounded - guns make you safer ?

TBI Investigating Seven Related Homicides, Officer-Involved Shooting in Sumner County
This looks like a domestic situation. In countries with proper gun control a row leads to a few doors getting slammed and a night in the pub. At least only one child was slaughtered this time.

Another I many dumb posts by Denard. I a retired Leo and I would rather law abiding citizens own and be able to carry. Your too stupid to get it. Criminals will always have guns. Our country is not the same make up as these other countries. I don’t wish bad on anyone but maybe if a carjacking, robbery or home invasion happened in your family you would change your mind very quickly. How come it’s ok for politicians to have armed guards and Hollywood to have armed security but law abiding citizens can’t. You live in a fantasy world. I live in the real world. Know what’s out there and what can happen. You read an article and think you know everything. You have no common sense. Neither does the liberals entire party.


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But having guns makes you less safe. Its a fact.
No it is not a fact.

My guns make me much safer that is a fact.

You are simply ignorant
You would be safer in the Uk away from your crazy gun culture. That is a fact.
No it is not a fact.

Your nation is a fascist police state which imprisons people for thought crime and violates human rights.

Your police willfully ignore child rapists and look then other way in no go zones.

Our gun culture helped free us from your backwards inferior euro trash crap and we are better for it.
 
TBI Investigating Seven Related Homicides, Officer-Involved Shooting in Sumner County
This looks like a domestic situation. In countries with proper gun control a row leads to a few doors getting slammed and a night in the pub. At least only one child was slaughtered this time.

Another I many dumb posts by Denard. I a retired Leo and I would rather law abiding citizens own and be able to carry. Your too stupid to get it. Criminals will always have guns. Our country is not the same make up as these other countries. I don’t wish bad on anyone but maybe if a carjacking, robbery or home invasion happened in your family you would change your mind very quickly. How come it’s ok for politicians to have armed guards and Hollywood to have armed security but law abiding citizens can’t. You live in a fantasy world. I live in the real world. Know what’s out there and what can happen. You read an article and think you know everything. You have no common sense. Neither does the liberals entire party.


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But having guns makes you less safe. Its a fact.
No it is not a fact.

My guns make me much safer that is a fact.

You are simply ignorant
You would be safer in the Uk away from your crazy gun culture. That is a fact.


Britain is more violent than the U.K.....and you have to be in a very tiny area of the United States to experience gun crime of any kind......if you stay away from democrat cities and the tiny areas in those cities controlled by gangs and democrats, your chance of any harm from guns is better than in Europe....and you will less likely be robbed, raped or murdered in those states where you can carry guns....

Remember, since the 1990s more Americans now own and carry guns...our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, our violent crime rate went down 72%.......that blows your theory all to hell...
 
TBI Investigating Seven Related Homicides, Officer-Involved Shooting in Sumner County
This looks like a domestic situation. In countries with proper gun control a row leads to a few doors getting slammed and a night in the pub. At least only one child was slaughtered this time.

A country of 350 million people and there are homicides? Wow, that is news, Wales and London have three times the number of homicides as New York City.

When you get Britain squared away, come see us, otherwise you are a hypocrite.
Dont they have some sort of gun control in New York ?

Yep, however it is not nearly as strict as any in the UK. Why do you suppose murder is so rampant in Britain?

Britain's murder rate is 12 murders per million of population.

The American homicide rate is 4.9 per 100,000, which would be 49 per million, or more than four times the murder rate in the USA.

Homicide in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

us homicide rate 2018 - Google Search

Homicide is a crime of young males.


Murder is a willful act.....it is increasing in the U.K. and going down in the U.S....so that theory of yours is blown to hell..... Murder is committed primarily by fatherless boys and girls who become sociopaths.....Britain is now creating those very fatherless boys and girls and they are becoming sociopaths.....see for reference the book "Life at the Bottom." The increasing violent crime and murder in the U.K. highlights this fact....and the police state they can't stop the increasing...yes increasing, flow of illegal guns into the country......so gun murder is going to go up as the years go by...their fatherless boys and girls are currently knifing each other to death, and the illegal guns will slowlly get into their hands too...
 
A country of 350 million people and there are homicides? Wow, that is news, Wales and London have three times the number of homicides as New York City.

When you get Britain squared away, come see us, otherwise you are a hypocrite.
Dont they have some sort of gun control in New York ?

Yep, however it is not nearly as strict as any in the UK. Why do you suppose murder is so rampant in Britain?

Britain's murder rate is 12 murders per million of population.

The American homicide rate is 4.9 per 100,000, which would be 49 per million, or more than four times the murder rate in the USA.

Homicide in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

us homicide rate 2018 - Google Search

Homicide is a crime of young males.

Canada girl, I was comparing Wales and London to NYC. The UK has stricter gun laws than NYC. Thank you for playing though. Have a cookie.
Well firstly you havent proven anything. Your article is for England and Wales not London and Wales. And Wales has no issues with homicides. And London is the worst in the UK. Why dont you compare it to the worst in the US ?

Overall the UK and all of Western Europe is a lot safer than the US - mainly because of your crazy gun laws.

Your opinion matters nothing in my country. I don’t care for people that have no stake in my country butting in. I don’t give a damn what you and your country do, it isn’t my business.

Wales and England had three times the number of homicides than NYC and your gun laws didn’t stop one murder.
 
TBI Investigating Seven Related Homicides, Officer-Involved Shooting in Sumner County
This looks like a domestic situation. In countries with proper gun control a row leads to a few doors getting slammed and a night in the pub. At least only one child was slaughtered this time.

Another I many dumb posts by Denard. I a retired Leo and I would rather law abiding citizens own and be able to carry. Your too stupid to get it. Criminals will always have guns. Our country is not the same make up as these other countries. I don’t wish bad on anyone but maybe if a carjacking, robbery or home invasion happened in your family you would change your mind very quickly. How come it’s ok for politicians to have armed guards and Hollywood to have armed security but law abiding citizens can’t. You live in a fantasy world. I live in the real world. Know what’s out there and what can happen. You read an article and think you know everything. You have no common sense. Neither does the liberals entire party.


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But having guns makes you less safe. Its a fact.
No it is not a fact.

My guns make me much safer that is a fact.

You are simply ignorant
You would be safer in the Uk away from your crazy gun culture. That is a fact.
No it is not a fact.

Your nation is a fascist police state which imprisons people for thought crime and violates human rights.

Your police willfully ignore child rapists and look then other way in no go zones.

Our gun culture helped free us from your backwards inferior euro trash crap and we are better for it.

There are no facist police states at the present time, despite all of Trumps’ best efforts.
 
TBI Investigating Seven Related Homicides, Officer-Involved Shooting in Sumner County
This looks like a domestic situation. In countries with proper gun control a row leads to a few doors getting slammed and a night in the pub. At least only one child was slaughtered this time.

A country of 350 million people and there are homicides? Wow, that is news, Wales and London have three times the number of homicides as New York City.

When you get Britain squared away, come see us, otherwise you are a hypocrite.
Dont they have some sort of gun control in New York ?

Yep, however it is not nearly as strict as any in the UK. Why do you suppose murder is so rampant in Britain?

Britain's murder rate is 12 murders per million of population.

The American homicide rate is 4.9 per 100,000, which would be 49 per million, or more than four times the murder rate in the USA.

Homicide in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

us homicide rate 2018 - Google Search

Homicide is a crime of young males.


Murder is a willful act.....it is increasing in the U.K. and going down in the U.S....so that theory of yours is blown to hell..... Murder is committed primarily by fatherless boys and girls who become sociopaths.....Britain is now creating those very fatherless boys and girls and they are becoming sociopaths.....see for reference the book "Life at the Bottom." The increasing violent crime and murder in the U.K. highlights this fact....and the police state they can't stop the increasing...yes increasing, flow of illegal guns into the country......so gun murder is going to go up as the years go by...their fatherless boys and girls are currently knifing each other to death, and the illegal guns will slowlly get into their hands too...


In France the other day authorities found another portable rocket launcher
I think they're on the banned list ....:20:

IN NYC today ...demographically
95% of gun crime is committed by blacks and Hispanics

i was always torn on stop n frisk cause pretty much you're honestly zeroing in on the the problem of course they called it racist ...which is funny cause you know who is shooting who

NOpe still racist OY

some kids we're not packing flowers before they left their apts...and they just happened to be Blacks and Hispanics

. As an adult white male i've never been stooped and frisked by NYPD...talk to a cop have a beer with him hell yeah

white priv baby don't leave home without it !


On the other HAND a great white father tells me "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

A great white father would be correct !

INDEED
even MSNBLSD agrees
:04:
MSNBC Accidentally Makes Case for 2nd Amendment During Report on Venezuela
By P.J. Gladnick | April 30, 2019 11:02 PM EDT

Ooops!
It's a safe bet that it wasn't the intent, but a Tuesday afternoon MSNBC report on the latest unrest in Venezuela made a very good case for why the Second Amendment, giving citizens the right to bear arms, is very important. It happened during a report by Kerry Sanders from Miami updating Andrea Mitchell on the latest news about the troubles in Venezuela.

Here was Mitchell's lead-in:

And not only hanging on but he appears to still control the military. You have to understand that in Venezuela gun ownership is not something that is open to everybody. So if the military have the guns, they have the power. And as long as Nicolas Maduro controls the military, he controls the country...


the democratic socialist need to remind us again why the democratic socialist enforced gun confiscation in Venezuela ?

Wasn't it to stop gun violence ? ...derp
which only made it worse anyway?...derp derp
ANd now a disarmed population can not over throw a failed democratic socialist experiment ........that would of worked on clown world if it wasnt for trump and oil ?



AHHH the noble state
honk honk
 
TBI Investigating Seven Related Homicides, Officer-Involved Shooting in Sumner County
This looks like a domestic situation. In countries with proper gun control a row leads to a few doors getting slammed and a night in the pub. At least only one child was slaughtered this time.

Another I many dumb posts by Denard. I a retired Leo and I would rather law abiding citizens own and be able to carry. Your too stupid to get it. Criminals will always have guns. Our country is not the same make up as these other countries. I don’t wish bad on anyone but maybe if a carjacking, robbery or home invasion happened in your family you would change your mind very quickly. How come it’s ok for politicians to have armed guards and Hollywood to have armed security but law abiding citizens can’t. You live in a fantasy world. I live in the real world. Know what’s out there and what can happen. You read an article and think you know everything. You have no common sense. Neither does the liberals entire party.


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But having guns makes you less safe. Its a fact.
No it is not a fact.

My guns make me much safer that is a fact.

You are simply ignorant
You would be safer in the Uk away from your crazy gun culture. That is a fact.
No it is not a fact.

Your nation is a fascist police state which imprisons people for thought crime and violates human rights.

Your police willfully ignore child rapists and look then other way in no go zones.

Our gun culture helped free us from your backwards inferior euro trash crap and we are better for it.
You have a fantasists view of the world. I really get that you are afraid to make a change. But people are dying.
 
Dont they have some sort of gun control in New York ?

Yep, however it is not nearly as strict as any in the UK. Why do you suppose murder is so rampant in Britain?

Britain's murder rate is 12 murders per million of population.

The American homicide rate is 4.9 per 100,000, which would be 49 per million, or more than four times the murder rate in the USA.

Homicide in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

us homicide rate 2018 - Google Search

Homicide is a crime of young males.

Canada girl, I was comparing Wales and London to NYC. The UK has stricter gun laws than NYC. Thank you for playing though. Have a cookie.
Well firstly you havent proven anything. Your article is for England and Wales not London and Wales. And Wales has no issues with homicides. And London is the worst in the UK. Why dont you compare it to the worst in the US ?

Overall the UK and all of Western Europe is a lot safer than the US - mainly because of your crazy gun laws.

Your opinion matters nothing in my country. I don’t care for people that have no stake in my country butting in. I don’t give a damn what you and your country do, it isn’t my business.

Wales and England had three times the number of homicides than NYC and your gun laws didn’t stop one murder.
They obviously did because our murder rates are a fraction of yours.
 
Another I many dumb posts by Denard. I a retired Leo and I would rather law abiding citizens own and be able to carry. Your too stupid to get it. Criminals will always have guns. Our country is not the same make up as these other countries. I don’t wish bad on anyone but maybe if a carjacking, robbery or home invasion happened in your family you would change your mind very quickly. How come it’s ok for politicians to have armed guards and Hollywood to have armed security but law abiding citizens can’t. You live in a fantasy world. I live in the real world. Know what’s out there and what can happen. You read an article and think you know everything. You have no common sense. Neither does the liberals entire party.


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But having guns makes you less safe. Its a fact.
No it is not a fact.

My guns make me much safer that is a fact.

You are simply ignorant
You would be safer in the Uk away from your crazy gun culture. That is a fact.
No it is not a fact.

Your nation is a fascist police state which imprisons people for thought crime and violates human rights.

Your police willfully ignore child rapists and look then other way in no go zones.

Our gun culture helped free us from your backwards inferior euro trash crap and we are better for it.

There are no facist police states at the present time, despite all of Trumps’ best efforts.
Wrong

Trump is no fascist but in the UK they have abolished freedom of speech
 
Another I many dumb posts by Denard. I a retired Leo and I would rather law abiding citizens own and be able to carry. Your too stupid to get it. Criminals will always have guns. Our country is not the same make up as these other countries. I don’t wish bad on anyone but maybe if a carjacking, robbery or home invasion happened in your family you would change your mind very quickly. How come it’s ok for politicians to have armed guards and Hollywood to have armed security but law abiding citizens can’t. You live in a fantasy world. I live in the real world. Know what’s out there and what can happen. You read an article and think you know everything. You have no common sense. Neither does the liberals entire party.


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But having guns makes you less safe. Its a fact.
No it is not a fact.

My guns make me much safer that is a fact.

You are simply ignorant
You would be safer in the Uk away from your crazy gun culture. That is a fact.
No it is not a fact.

Your nation is a fascist police state which imprisons people for thought crime and violates human rights.

Your police willfully ignore child rapists and look then other way in no go zones.

Our gun culture helped free us from your backwards inferior euro trash crap and we are better for it.
You have a fantasists view of the world. I really get that you are afraid to make a change. But people are dying.
I have an accurate view of the world


Everyone everywhere dies.

The sort of change you call for is immoral

You would surrender human rights to a despotic government in the idiotic view that it will save lives.

You Brits are truly fucking stupid
 
TBI Investigating Seven Related Homicides, Officer-Involved Shooting in Sumner County
This looks like a domestic situation. In countries with proper gun control a row leads to a few doors getting slammed and a night in the pub. At least only one child was slaughtered this time.

A country of 350 million people and there are homicides? Wow, that is news, Wales and London have three times the number of homicides as New York City.

When you get Britain squared away, come see us, otherwise you are a hypocrite.
Dont they have some sort of gun control in New York ?

Yep, however it is not nearly as strict as any in the UK. Why do you suppose murder is so rampant in Britain?
It isnt. It runs at about one fifth of the rate in the US where your guns make you "safe".
Only people incapable of anything but the simplest thinking believe that guns and guns alone are the only societal variable that contributes to the murder rate
 
While y'all were arguing about how safe guns make us, a 22 year old was taking out fellow students in a classroom at the University of North Carolina.

It hasn't even been a week, people, since the synagogue shooting. It seems it didn't even make enough news last evening to register with anyone. Nothing under ten dead probably makes the headlines anymore.

We are a sick nation.


People gather across from the campus of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte after a shooting at the school on Tuesday. Two people died and another four were wounded, three critically, after a shooting at the University of North Carolina's Charlotte campus on Tuesday.10 hours ago
2 Dead And 4 Injured In Shooting At University Of North Carolina - NPR

https://www.npr.org/.../2-dead-and-4-injured-in-shooting-at-university-of-north-carolina...
 
While y'all were arguing about how safe guns make us, a 22 year old was taking out fellow students in a classroom at the University of North Carolina.

It hasn't even been a week, people, since the synagogue shooting. It seems it didn't even make enough news last evening to register with anyone. Nothing under ten dead probably makes the headlines anymore.

We are a sick nation.


People gather across from the campus of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte after a shooting at the school on Tuesday. Two people died and another four were wounded, three critically, after a shooting at the University of North Carolina's Charlotte campus on Tuesday.10 hours ago
2 Dead And 4 Injured In Shooting At University Of North Carolina - NPR

https://www.npr.org/.../2-dead-and-4-injured-in-shooting-at-university-of-north-carolina...

SO what?

I own guns and I am not responsible for the crimes of other people.
I own a car and I am not responsible for the reckless driving of other people
I own a lighter and cans of gasoline and I am not responsible for the arson other people commit

Do you get the drift yet or should I go on?
 
While y'all were arguing about how safe guns make us, a 22 year old was taking out fellow students in a classroom at the University of North Carolina.

It hasn't even been a week, people, since the synagogue shooting. It seems it didn't even make enough news last evening to register with anyone. Nothing under ten dead probably makes the headlines anymore.

We are a sick nation.


People gather across from the campus of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte after a shooting at the school on Tuesday. Two people died and another four were wounded, three critically, after a shooting at the University of North Carolina's Charlotte campus on Tuesday.10 hours ago
2 Dead And 4 Injured In Shooting At University Of North Carolina - NPR

https://www.npr.org/.../2-dead-and-4-injured-in-shooting-at-university-of-north-carolina...

SO what?

I own guns and I am not responsible for the crimes of other people.
I own a car and I am not responsible for the reckless driving of other people
I own a lighter and cans of gasoline and I am not responsible for the arson other people commit

Do you get the drift yet or should I go on?
So what?

Okay. I guess I've got your number.
 
While y'all were arguing about how safe guns make us, a 22 year old was taking out fellow students in a classroom at the University of North Carolina.

It hasn't even been a week, people, since the synagogue shooting. It seems it didn't even make enough news last evening to register with anyone. Nothing under ten dead probably makes the headlines anymore.

We are a sick nation.


People gather across from the campus of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte after a shooting at the school on Tuesday. Two people died and another four were wounded, three critically, after a shooting at the University of North Carolina's Charlotte campus on Tuesday.10 hours ago
2 Dead And 4 Injured In Shooting At University Of North Carolina - NPR

https://www.npr.org/.../2-dead-and-4-injured-in-shooting-at-university-of-north-carolina...

SO what?

I own guns and I am not responsible for the crimes of other people.
I own a car and I am not responsible for the reckless driving of other people
I own a lighter and cans of gasoline and I am not responsible for the arson other people commit

Do you get the drift yet or should I go on?
So what?

Okay. I guess I've got your number.
People die every second of every day

Why don't you tell me how I am responsible for all the people who commit crimes with guns simple because I happen to own some?
 
While y'all were arguing about how safe guns make us, a 22 year old was taking out fellow students in a classroom at the University of North Carolina.

It hasn't even been a week, people, since the synagogue shooting. It seems it didn't even make enough news last evening to register with anyone. Nothing under ten dead probably makes the headlines anymore.

We are a sick nation.


People gather across from the campus of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte after a shooting at the school on Tuesday. Two people died and another four were wounded, three critically, after a shooting at the University of North Carolina's Charlotte campus on Tuesday.10 hours ago
2 Dead And 4 Injured In Shooting At University Of North Carolina - NPR

https://www.npr.org/.../2-dead-and-4-injured-in-shooting-at-university-of-north-carolina...

SO what?

I own guns and I am not responsible for the crimes of other people.
I own a car and I am not responsible for the reckless driving of other people
I own a lighter and cans of gasoline and I am not responsible for the arson other people commit

Do you get the drift yet or should I go on?
So what?

Okay. I guess I've got your number.
People die every second of every day

Why don't you tell me how I am responsible for all the people who commit crimes with guns simple because I happen to own some?
Perhaps truly responsible people don't choose to own and use devices designed to take life as quickly and efficiently as possible.
 
While y'all were arguing about how safe guns make us, a 22 year old was taking out fellow students in a classroom at the University of North Carolina.

It hasn't even been a week, people, since the synagogue shooting. It seems it didn't even make enough news last evening to register with anyone. Nothing under ten dead probably makes the headlines anymore.

We are a sick nation.


People gather across from the campus of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte after a shooting at the school on Tuesday. Two people died and another four were wounded, three critically, after a shooting at the University of North Carolina's Charlotte campus on Tuesday.10 hours ago
2 Dead And 4 Injured In Shooting At University Of North Carolina - NPR

https://www.npr.org/.../2-dead-and-4-injured-in-shooting-at-university-of-north-carolina...

SO what?

I own guns and I am not responsible for the crimes of other people.
I own a car and I am not responsible for the reckless driving of other people
I own a lighter and cans of gasoline and I am not responsible for the arson other people commit

Do you get the drift yet or should I go on?
So what?

Okay. I guess I've got your number.
People die every second of every day

Why don't you tell me how I am responsible for all the people who commit crimes with guns simple because I happen to own some?
Perhaps truly responsible people don't choose to own and use devices designed to take life as quickly and efficiently as possible.

one who has not committed a crime is not responsible for the crimes other people commit.
 
While y'all were arguing about how safe guns make us, a 22 year old was taking out fellow students in a classroom at the University of North Carolina.

It hasn't even been a week, people, since the synagogue shooting. It seems it didn't even make enough news last evening to register with anyone. Nothing under ten dead probably makes the headlines anymore.

We are a sick nation.


People gather across from the campus of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte after a shooting at the school on Tuesday. Two people died and another four were wounded, three critically, after a shooting at the University of North Carolina's Charlotte campus on Tuesday.10 hours ago
2 Dead And 4 Injured In Shooting At University Of North Carolina - NPR

https://www.npr.org/.../2-dead-and-4-injured-in-shooting-at-university-of-north-carolina...

SO what?

I own guns and I am not responsible for the crimes of other people.
I own a car and I am not responsible for the reckless driving of other people
I own a lighter and cans of gasoline and I am not responsible for the arson other people commit

Do you get the drift yet or should I go on?
So what?

Okay. I guess I've got your number.
People die every second of every day

Why don't you tell me how I am responsible for all the people who commit crimes with guns simple because I happen to own some?
Perhaps truly responsible people don't choose to own and use devices designed to take life as quickly and efficiently as possible.

one who has not committed a crime is not responsible for the crimes other people commit.
Were you accused of a crime you didn`t commit or are you paranoid. Paranoia is a recognized symptom of mental disease so perhaps you shouldn`t be allowed to play with guns at all.
 
SO what?

I own guns and I am not responsible for the crimes of other people.
I own a car and I am not responsible for the reckless driving of other people
I own a lighter and cans of gasoline and I am not responsible for the arson other people commit

Do you get the drift yet or should I go on?
So what?

Okay. I guess I've got your number.
People die every second of every day

Why don't you tell me how I am responsible for all the people who commit crimes with guns simple because I happen to own some?
Perhaps truly responsible people don't choose to own and use devices designed to take life as quickly and efficiently as possible.

one who has not committed a crime is not responsible for the crimes other people commit.
Were you accused of a crime you didn`t commit or are you paranoid. Paranoia is a recognized symptom of mental disease so perhaps you shouldn`t be allowed to play with guns at all.

Get back to me when you can follow the conversations about guns on this board

There are those here who think that a law abiding gun owner is responsible for crimes committed by others with guns for no other reason than that he owns guns
 

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