7000-1. Guess Who Won

[Votto]

Needs a permit.

Say, where is your permit for posting here?

Can vee zee, zee paperz?

 

[colfax_m]

Wrong is wrong. Sorry, but public arts commissions should not have sway over private property.

I totally support that kind of opinion.

What I take issue is the attempt to make this a left vs right thing. I think you’re probably going to find similar rules and applications for these things regardless of what party is in power.

 

[martybegan]

I totally support that kind of opinion.

What I take issue is the attempt to make this a left vs right thing. I think you’re probably going to find similar rules and applications for these things regardless of what party is in power.

It's more the left doing this, as they favor government control of pretty much everything.

 

[Catman51]

I am happy someone is not allowed to open a slaughter house or gun range next to my house, that is true.

You seem to want complete control over what other people can and cannot do, making you unwanted in any civilized group setting.

Of couurse, if such a thing were to happen you could always move, even be encouraged to move.

 

[colfax_m]

It's more the left doing this, as they favor government control of pretty much everything.

If you say so. I think that’s just your own political bias speaking.

I think conservatives have no problem using government to control others. They just don’t want it to be used against them.

 

[jc456]

This wouldn't be a problem if it said BLM or ACAB.

That’s already proven

 

[jc456]

If you say so. I think that’s just your own political bias speaking.

I think conservatives have no problem using government to control others. They just don’t want it to be used against them.

Name one place

 

[martybegan]

If you say so. I think that’s just your own political bias speaking.

I think conservatives have no problem using government to control others. They just don’t want it to be used against them.

The only general exception to control vs not control is abortion, and that's because they see a fetus as another person.

Leftism is about the collective over the individual, about supposed "betters" knowing more than the masses, and rigorous persecution of anyone who goes outside the groupthink.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You seem to want complete control over what other people can and cannot do, making you unwanted in any civilized group setting.

Of couurse, if such a thing were to happen you could always move, even be encouraged to move.

Not at all, just some common sense.

I do not want my neighbor to put in a slaughter house next to me.

Why must all your partisan make everything personal?

 

[martybegan]

Not at all, just some common sense.

I do not want my neighbor to put in a slaughter house next to me.

Why must all your partisan make everything personal?

Again a strawman argument. Having an industrial zoning requirement is about safety, commonality of usage of a given area, as well as the infrastructure, mainly power, required above and beyond commercial and residential usages.

I walk by anti-Trump crap all the time in NY, and guess what? I KEEP WALKING.

 

[colfax_m]

The only general exception to control vs not control is abortion, and that's because they see a fetus as another person.

Leftism is about the collective over the individual, about supposed "betters" knowing more than the masses, and rigorous persecution of anyone who goes outside the groupthink.

I don’t think the right is as devoted to individualism as they proclaim. They seem to be very proud that they think they do, but remember this is the party that is far more adherent to religion, the OG groupthink that persecutes anyone who goes outside it.

I mean, it wasn’t that long ago that the right considered gay people an abomination. I’m sure some still do. Maybe a lot of them, but they know they lost that battle. They still are quite happy to persecute people who demonstrate any kind of gender fluidity. It doesn’t even matter if they identify as trans, if a man acts in any way effeminate or not up to their masculine standards, they’re ridiculed.

 

[Catman51]

It's more the left doing this, as they favor government control of pretty much everything.

Prime example, who permitted the George Floyd mural? Before the fact, that is?

 

[Catman51]

Not at all, just some common sense.

I do not want my neighbor to put in a slaughter house next to me.

Why must all your partisan make everything personal?

You are reacting from a personal point of view. Witness your continual use of *I* want or do not want.

Not common sense at all, since you have never displayed any, just pure egotism and a desire to dominate all others.

A wannabe Hitler.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You are reacting from a personal point of view. Witness your continual use of *I* want or do not want.

And???

Not common sense at all, since you have never displayed any, just pure egotism and a desire to dominate all others.

A wannabe Hitler.

Wow, another partisan born without a sense of irony.

It seems to be a common affliction among the sheep

 

[martybegan]

I don’t think the right is as devoted to individualism as they proclaim. They seem to be very proud that they think they do, but remember this is the party that is far more adherent to religion, the OG groupthink that persecutes anyone who goes outside it.

I mean, it wasn’t that long ago that the right considered gay people an abomination. I’m sure some still do. Maybe a lot of them, but they know they lost that battle. They still are quite happy to persecute people who demonstrate any kind of gender fluidity. It doesn’t even matter if they identify as trans, if a man acts in any way effeminate or not up to their masculine standards, they’re ridiculed.

Being an adherent of a religion doesn't mean forcing it on people. Environmentalism and LGBT(whatever letters have been added) advocacy is far more pushed on people than anything else.

Homosexuality is considered sinful by most major religions, revisionism in some liberal sects nothwithstanding.

What persecution of Trans people? Making them use the right bathroom? Putting them in the proper prison for their actual sex? Trying not to turn it into a fad that hurts kids?

 

[colfax_m]

Being an adherent of a religion doesn't mean forcing it on people. Environmentalism and LGBT(whatever letters have been added) advocacy is far more pushed on people than anything else.

Homosexuality is considered sinful by most major religions, revisionism in some liberal sects nothwithstanding.

What persecution of Trans people? Making them use the right bathroom? Putting them in the proper prison for their actual sex? Trying not to turn it into a fad that hurts kids?

Say what you will about forcing things on people, but religion is definitely groupthink. The consequences of non-adherence aren’t just social ostracism, but eternal damnation. It sounds trivial to adults but remember children are indoctrinated in this groupthink and taught to fear leaving.

This isn’t just encouraged on the political right, but is mandatory if you want to have any success in the party.

But this adherence to religion only extends to Christianity and to some extends Judaism.

Lest we forget the ground zero mosque? The right had little compunction about attempting to prevent this from being built.

 

[martybegan]

Say what you will about forcing things on people, but religion is definitely groupthink. The consequences of non-adherence aren’t just social ostracism, but eternal damnation. It sounds trivial to adults but remember children are indoctrinated in this groupthink and taught to fear leaving.

This isn’t just encouraged on the political right, but is mandatory if you want to have any success in the party.

But this adherence to religion only extends to Christianity and to some extends Judaism.

Lest we forget the ground zero mosque? The right had little compunction about attempting to prevent this from being built.

And yet plenty leave the mainstream ones all the time when they get older. Unless you are a Calvinist free will is imperative in any religion for salvation or damnation.

Plenty of Republicans aren't religious.

Mosques have been used as "Victory monuments" by Muslims throughout history. Look at the Hagia Sophia as an example.

 

[CowboyTed]

What do you mean “allowed”? The rules were almost certainly passed by elective representatives. Unfortunately, it looks like the courts have ruled that these rules are constitutional but I have no problem with them taking the city to court.

See here where a conservative city came down on a mural by a liberal organization.

It's Beautiful, But It's Illegal

If you build a gorgeous 4 story home in Miami Springs, it might be beautiful, but it's not allowed under current law. If you paint a mural on your home, it might be beautiful, but it's also not allowed. Likewise, murals are not allowed in our commercial district as they violate both our color pall

new.miamisprings.com

Well that sums it up....

Are our pro mural anti government going to bat for UTD?

 

[jc456]

They still are quite happy to persecute people who demonstrate any kind of gender fluidity

Persecute? Who and where?

 

[CowboyTed]

And yet plenty leave the mainstream ones all the time when they get older. Unless you are a Calvinist free will is imperative in any religion for salvation or damnation.

Plenty of Republicans aren't religious.

Mosques have been used as "Victory monuments" by Muslims throughout history. Look at the Hagia Sophia as an example.

This is descending into farce...

Marty views are you can do anything you want as long as he agrees...

Much like he believes religious freedom as long it is Christian or Jewish... You can believe be atheist as long as you are a Christian atheist...