74 school shootings in 77 weeks...Worth it's own thread.

Can we compare the murder rate in Norway to that of the US? They have a murder rate less than half of our own. I would be willing to accept Norways mass murders of once in forever to our once every week

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is your position that since we can't stop all murders, we should not try to stop any?

Perhaps this has something to do with it.

US population - 316,668,567
Norway population - 4,722,701

Norway and United States Comparison - Examine Similarities and Differences

Do you understand what a murder "rate" is?
Comparing Norway to the US is apples and oranges. Norway's population is 93.5% Norwegian and European. There is a very small minority population but they commit crimes at about 3 times the rate of ethnic Scandinavians/Europeans

Same here... only we have 4 times as many minorities.
 
Where does this bull crap come from? We spend more money on schools than any other country on Earth. They still suck.

We have the best health care in the world.

Veterans are victims of government run health care, and that will always be the case no matter how much you spend, just like we spend the most on education, and our education system sucks.

The problem isn't a lack of money. The problem is government sucks.

The purpose of government is to enforce the law, and protect the citizens.

You idiots on the left want to take money away from what it's supposed to do, and give it to what it's terrible at doing, and then complain it not enough.

Prisons are what government is supposed to do?

How bout spending the money to send kids to college instead of sending nonviolent offenders to prison?

Yes, protecting its citizens from predators.....it doesn't have to be a violent crime to have victims. :eusa_whistle:

Hell with schools, roads, healthcare or vets
We got prisons to protect you from reefer
 
74 school shootings in the past 77 weeks.

Not 74 chemical bombings, not 74 stabbings, not 74 bows and arrows, not 74 hatchet attacks. The common denominator (do I need to define that term for you?) is guns.

If you Ammo-sexuals want to keep, sleep with and insert your guns into your privates because I really think it's that sick, then figure out a way to stop this epidemic.

This data tells me that the parents of these kids are pretty much out of touch with their kids, so start with them.

Do something besides shoving the 2nd Amendment in my face and whining about your fucking rights. Your rights end when innocent people who cannot protect themselves die.


School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook | Everytown for Gun Safety - School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook

#
Date
City
State
School Name
School Type
1. 1/08/2013 Fort Myers FL Apostolic Revival Center Christian School K-12
2. 1/10/2013 Taft CA Taft Union High School K-12
3. 1/15/2013 St. Louis MO Stevens Institute of Business & Arts College/University
4. 1/15/2013 Hazard KY Hazard Community and Technical College College/University
5. 1/16/2013 Chicago IL Chicago State University College/University
6. 1/22/2013
Houston TX Lone Star College North Harris Campus College/University
7. 1/31/2013 Atlanta GA Price Middle School K-12
8. 2/1/2013 Atlanta GA Morehouse College College/University
9. 2/7/2013 Fort Pierce FL Indian River St. College College/University
10. 2/13/2013 San Leandro CA Hillside Elementary School K-12
11. 2/27/2013 Atlanta GA Henry W. Grady HS K-12
12. 3/18/2013 Orlando FL University of Central Florida College/University
13. 3/21/2013 Southgate MI Davidson Middle School K-12
14. 4/12/2013 Christianburg VA New River Community College College/University
15. 4/13/2013 Elizabeth City NC Elizabeth City State University College/University
16. 4/15/2013 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
17. 4/16/2013 Tuscaloosa AL Stillman College College/University
18. 4/29/2013 Cincinnati OH La Salle High School K-12
19. 6/7/2013 Santa Monica CA Santa Monica College College/University
20. 6/19/2013 W. Palm Beach FL Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts K-12
21. 8/15/2013 Clarksville TN Northwest High School K-12
22. 8/20/2013 Decatur GA Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy K-12
23. 8/22/2013 Memphis TN Westside Elementary School K-12
24. 8/23/2013 Sardis MS North Panola High School K-12
25. 8/30/2013 Winston-Salem NC Carver High School K-12
26. 9/21/2013 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
27. 9/28/2013 Gray ME New Gloucester High School K-12
28. 10/4/2013 Pine Hills FL Agape Christian Academy K-12
29. 10/15/2013 Austin TX Lanier High School K-12
30. 10/21/2013 Sparks NV Sparks Middle School K-12
31. 11/1/2013 Algona IA Algona High/Middle School K-12
32. 11/2/2013 Greensboro NC North Carolina A&T State University College/University
33. 11/3/2013 Stone Mountain GA Stephenson High School K-12
34. 11/21/2013 Rapid City SD South Dakota School of Mines & Technology College/University
35. 12/4/2013 Winter Garden FL West Orange High School K-12
36. 12/13/2013 Arapahoe County CO Arapahoe High School K-12
37. 12/19/2013 Fresno CA Edison High School K-12
38. 1/9/2014 Jackson TN Liberty Technology Magnet HS K-12
39. 1/14/2014 Roswell NM Berrendo Middle School K-12
40. 1/15/2014 Lancaster PA Martin Luther King Jr. ES K-12
41. 1/17/2014 Philadelphia PA Delaware Valley Charter HS K-12
42. 1/20/2014 Chester PA Widener University College/University
43. 1/21/2014 West Lafayette IN Purdue University College/University
44. 1/24/2014 Orangeburg SC South Carolina State University College/University
45. 1/28/2014 Nashville TN Tennessee State University College/University
46. 1/28/2014 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
47. 1/30/2014 Palm Bay FL Eastern Florida State College College/University
48. 1/31/2014 Phoenix AZ Cesar Chavez High School K-12
49. 1/31/2014 Des Moines IA North High School K-12
50. 2/7/2014 Bend OR Bend High School K-12
51. 2/10/2014 Salisbury NC Salisbury High School K-12
52. 2/11/2014 Lyndhurst OH Brush High School K-12
53. 2/12/2014 Jackson TN Union University College/University
54. 2/20/2014 Raytown MO Raytown Success Academy K-12
55. 3/2/2014 Westminster MD McDaniel College College/University
56. 3/7/2014 Tallulah LA Madison High School K-12
57. 3/8/2014 Oshkosh WI University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh College/University
58. 3/21/2014 Newark DE University of Delaware College/University
59. 3/30/2014 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
60. 4/3/2014 Kent OH Kent State University College/University
61. 4/7/2014 Roswell NM Eastern New Mexico University-Roswell College/University
62. 4/11/2014 Detroit MI East English Village Preparatory Academy K-12
63. 4/21/2014 Griffith IN St. Mary Catholic School K-12
64. 4/21/2014 Provo UT Provo High School K-12
65. 4/26/2014 Council Bluffs IA Iowa Western Community College College/University
66. 5/2/2014 Milwaukee WI Marquette University College/University
67. 5/3/2014 Everett WA Horizon Elementary School K-12
68. 5/4/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
69. 5/5/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
70. 5/8/2014 Georgetown KY Georgetown College College/University
71. 5/8/2014 Lawrenceville GA Georgia Gwinnett College College/University
72. 5/21/2014 Milwaukee WI Clark Street School K-12
73. 6/5/2014 Seattle WA Seattle Pacific University College/University
74. 6/10/2014 Troutdale OR Reynolds High School K-12

Hummmm.....Looks like we have a problem with 74 shootings are not actually 74 shootings... depends what the definition of Is is....
The anti-gun organization cites a total of 74 school shootings since Dec. 14, 2012. However, several of the shootings have come under scrutiny as some of them appear to have occurred off-campus and at least one may have been an instance of self-defense.

Journalist Charles C. Johnson dug deeper into Everytown’s data on Tuesday and published his findings on Twitter. He also criticized the fact that the group classified violent disputes and gang-related violence as “school shootings.”

“It’s not a school shooting when someone goes and shoots a specific person on campus. It’s a shooting that happens to take place at school,” he wrote.

?Wow?: Journalist Attempts to ?Debunk? Anti-Gun Group?s List of ?School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook? ? Here?s What He Found | TheBlaze.com

Holy semantics games.






No, a reality game. A man, murdered at 2 am in the morning on a school yard is not a "school shooting", it is a man engaged in some form of criminal behavior who just happened to be murdered, at a school, at night.


The whole Bloomberg report is a execrable piece of propaganda. But what would you expect from a super rich dictator wanna be? He can't turn you into a proper slave so long as you have power...

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"all political power comes from the barrel of a gun-Mao
 
Other countries have drugs and they don't have prisons overflowing with drug offenders and drug wars in their streets



It will be interesting to see what the laws in Colorado do to the illegal marijuana trade.



Problem is that the legal drug market is too regulated. The prices are due to that too high. That's why there is still a big black market in states like Colorado. If the regulations would just be repealed and there would be more competition, the black market is going to die.



the black market will never die



if you can get the same product for 1/2 price



under the table

You are wrong, the black market exists because drugs cost too much. This is because of high taxes and not enough competition in the legal market due to government.
If there were more stores, so more competition and less taxes +less regulations, you can get pure drugs (so not the terrible stuff you can buy by dealers) at the same price of the black market.
 
I don't care what you think of me the "I'm proud of you " rings more as a hollow insult than anything else so just cut that shit out OK?

I've given my opinion.

You can try to prevent criminals from getting guns and most likely you will fail.

We can't stop the illegal sale of drugs why on earth would you think you can stop the illegal sale of firearms or anything else for that matter?

IMO Our best option is to make all crimes committed while in the possession of a firearm, whether or not that firearm was actually used or even brandished, federal offenses punishable by a mandatory life sentence without the possibility of parole.

People who commit crimes while in possession of a firearm are dangers to society and should be removed from society for good.

I think everyone agrees that gangbangers are a major contributor to our murder rate. They make you, as a good guy, look bad for owning a gun. We need to do everything we can to dry up the supply of guns.
Will we stop every gun from getting in the hands of criminals? Of course not. But if we can cut 20%, that is 20% less guns on the street
Prison is not our answer to guns or drugs. We have a larger percentage of our citizens in prison than anywhere on earth. It is obviously not working

We lock up nonviolent offenders for bullshit things. I'm one for legalizing drugs and emptying the prisons of non violent drug offenders.

We should lock up violent people for good.

And I don't believe that some idiot gun owner makes me look bad just as a drunk driver doesn't make all drivers look bad..

You only look bad when you refuse to discuss keeping guns away from those who aren't capable of handling them properly.
 
In the wake of the 1996 shootings, support for further gun control measures swelled to 90%-95% of the population. Spearheaded by Australia's conservatives — yes, really — the laws banned rapid-firing long guns and launched an extensive gun buyback program that removed over 650,000 guns from the public. It also tightened laws and regulations surrounding their sale, registration, and storage. The whole package cost about $500 per gun and was compulsory.

As a result, some estimates say 20% of Australia's total guns were eliminated and ownership by household halved. In the U.S., a similar law would get rid of 40 million firearms.

which is akin to disarmament without probable cause. You see we have this concept in this country that you are innocent until proven guilty. What Australia did was assume their people were guilty straight up & then punished them without due process.

What a stupid, illogical argument. It's like saying we shouldn't have laws against driving under the influence of alchol because not everyone who does that causes an accident or kills someone. How stupid can you get?

How about "Thou shalt not kill"?
 

Finally! I started reading this thread to see how long it would take even ONE of you - either side of the aisle - to question the utterly ridiculous premise of the OP, rather than simply accepting it as true and then basing your arguments for and against on it. Not one single person here plugged their damned brain in and did the obvious, ie. fact-checking the list. Even CNN managed it.

Never, EVER enter a debate on the assumption that ANYTHING said by a liberal is in any way, shape, or form correct or honest. Liberal = liar, or blithering moron who blindly believes liars.

Un-freaking-believable.
 
These types of shootings are now the norm for the greatest country in the world. We now are not surprised that they happen as often as they do. That says something about this country.

Hmmm. Are you surprised that they DON'T happen as often as you're willing to believe they do? That says something about YOU . . . and it's not something you should be proud of.
 
Prisons are what government is supposed to do?

How bout spending the money to send kids to college instead of sending nonviolent offenders to prison?

Yes, protecting its citizens from predators.....it doesn't have to be a violent crime to have victims. :eusa_whistle:

Hell with schools, roads, healthcare or vets
We got prisons to protect you from reefer

What....can't the government walk and chew gum at the same time? :eusa_whistle:
 
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74 school shootings in the past 77 weeks.

Not 74 chemical bombings, not 74 stabbings, not 74 bows and arrows, not 74 hatchet attacks. The common denominator (do I need to define that term for you?) is guns.

If you Ammo-sexuals want to keep, sleep with and insert your guns into your privates because I really think it's that sick, then figure out a way to stop this epidemic.

This data tells me that the parents of these kids are pretty much out of touch with their kids, so start with them.

Do something besides shoving the 2nd Amendment in my face and whining about your fucking rights. Your rights end when innocent people who cannot protect themselves die.


School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook | Everytown for Gun Safety - School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook

#
Date
City
State
School Name
School Type
1. 1/08/2013 Fort Myers FL Apostolic Revival Center Christian School K-12
2. 1/10/2013 Taft CA Taft Union High School K-12
3. 1/15/2013 St. Louis MO Stevens Institute of Business & Arts College/University
4. 1/15/2013 Hazard KY Hazard Community and Technical College College/University
5. 1/16/2013 Chicago IL Chicago State University College/University
6. 1/22/2013
Houston TX Lone Star College North Harris Campus College/University
7. 1/31/2013 Atlanta GA Price Middle School K-12
8. 2/1/2013 Atlanta GA Morehouse College College/University
9. 2/7/2013 Fort Pierce FL Indian River St. College College/University
10. 2/13/2013 San Leandro CA Hillside Elementary School K-12
11. 2/27/2013 Atlanta GA Henry W. Grady HS K-12
12. 3/18/2013 Orlando FL University of Central Florida College/University
13. 3/21/2013 Southgate MI Davidson Middle School K-12
14. 4/12/2013 Christianburg VA New River Community College College/University
15. 4/13/2013 Elizabeth City NC Elizabeth City State University College/University
16. 4/15/2013 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
17. 4/16/2013 Tuscaloosa AL Stillman College College/University
18. 4/29/2013 Cincinnati OH La Salle High School K-12
19. 6/7/2013 Santa Monica CA Santa Monica College College/University
20. 6/19/2013 W. Palm Beach FL Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts K-12
21. 8/15/2013 Clarksville TN Northwest High School K-12
22. 8/20/2013 Decatur GA Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy K-12
23. 8/22/2013 Memphis TN Westside Elementary School K-12
24. 8/23/2013 Sardis MS North Panola High School K-12
25. 8/30/2013 Winston-Salem NC Carver High School K-12
26. 9/21/2013 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
27. 9/28/2013 Gray ME New Gloucester High School K-12
28. 10/4/2013 Pine Hills FL Agape Christian Academy K-12
29. 10/15/2013 Austin TX Lanier High School K-12
30. 10/21/2013 Sparks NV Sparks Middle School K-12
31. 11/1/2013 Algona IA Algona High/Middle School K-12
32. 11/2/2013 Greensboro NC North Carolina A&T State University College/University
33. 11/3/2013 Stone Mountain GA Stephenson High School K-12
34. 11/21/2013 Rapid City SD South Dakota School of Mines & Technology College/University
35. 12/4/2013 Winter Garden FL West Orange High School K-12
36. 12/13/2013 Arapahoe County CO Arapahoe High School K-12
37. 12/19/2013 Fresno CA Edison High School K-12
38. 1/9/2014 Jackson TN Liberty Technology Magnet HS K-12
39. 1/14/2014 Roswell NM Berrendo Middle School K-12
40. 1/15/2014 Lancaster PA Martin Luther King Jr. ES K-12
41. 1/17/2014 Philadelphia PA Delaware Valley Charter HS K-12
42. 1/20/2014 Chester PA Widener University College/University
43. 1/21/2014 West Lafayette IN Purdue University College/University
44. 1/24/2014 Orangeburg SC South Carolina State University College/University
45. 1/28/2014 Nashville TN Tennessee State University College/University
46. 1/28/2014 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
47. 1/30/2014 Palm Bay FL Eastern Florida State College College/University
48. 1/31/2014 Phoenix AZ Cesar Chavez High School K-12
49. 1/31/2014 Des Moines IA North High School K-12
50. 2/7/2014 Bend OR Bend High School K-12
51. 2/10/2014 Salisbury NC Salisbury High School K-12
52. 2/11/2014 Lyndhurst OH Brush High School K-12
53. 2/12/2014 Jackson TN Union University College/University
54. 2/20/2014 Raytown MO Raytown Success Academy K-12
55. 3/2/2014 Westminster MD McDaniel College College/University
56. 3/7/2014 Tallulah LA Madison High School K-12
57. 3/8/2014 Oshkosh WI University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh College/University
58. 3/21/2014 Newark DE University of Delaware College/University
59. 3/30/2014 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
60. 4/3/2014 Kent OH Kent State University College/University
61. 4/7/2014 Roswell NM Eastern New Mexico University-Roswell College/University
62. 4/11/2014 Detroit MI East English Village Preparatory Academy K-12
63. 4/21/2014 Griffith IN St. Mary Catholic School K-12
64. 4/21/2014 Provo UT Provo High School K-12
65. 4/26/2014 Council Bluffs IA Iowa Western Community College College/University
66. 5/2/2014 Milwaukee WI Marquette University College/University
67. 5/3/2014 Everett WA Horizon Elementary School K-12
68. 5/4/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
69. 5/5/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
70. 5/8/2014 Georgetown KY Georgetown College College/University
71. 5/8/2014 Lawrenceville GA Georgia Gwinnett College College/University
72. 5/21/2014 Milwaukee WI Clark Street School K-12
73. 6/5/2014 Seattle WA Seattle Pacific University College/University
74. 6/10/2014 Troutdale OR Reynolds High School K-12

Take away the gang related shootings, the suicides and the drug related shootings and your list is quite small.

We need to keep gang bangers in guns so they keep their population down. Puts less stress on our prison systems

-Geaux

And how are more gun-control laws going to keep guns away from gang-bangers?
 
Has anyone banged in yet to point out the real number of school shootings is "19"?

Because IIRC that seventy plus number includes things like "gang shooting in the school parking lot at 3 AM Saturday morning".
 
74 school shootings in the past 77 weeks.

Not 74 chemical bombings, not 74 stabbings, not 74 bows and arrows, not 74 hatchet attacks. The common denominator (do I need to define that term for you?) is guns.

If you Ammo-sexuals want to keep, sleep with and insert your guns into your privates because I really think it's that sick, then figure out a way to stop this epidemic.

This data tells me that the parents of these kids are pretty much out of touch with their kids, so start with them.

Do something besides shoving the 2nd Amendment in my face and whining about your fucking rights. Your rights end when innocent people who cannot protect themselves die.


School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook | Everytown for Gun Safety - School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook

#
Date
City
State
School Name
School Type
1. 1/08/2013 Fort Myers FL Apostolic Revival Center Christian School K-12
2. 1/10/2013 Taft CA Taft Union High School K-12
3. 1/15/2013 St. Louis MO Stevens Institute of Business & Arts College/University
4. 1/15/2013 Hazard KY Hazard Community and Technical College College/University
5. 1/16/2013 Chicago IL Chicago State University College/University
6. 1/22/2013
Houston TX Lone Star College North Harris Campus College/University
7. 1/31/2013 Atlanta GA Price Middle School K-12
8. 2/1/2013 Atlanta GA Morehouse College College/University
9. 2/7/2013 Fort Pierce FL Indian River St. College College/University
10. 2/13/2013 San Leandro CA Hillside Elementary School K-12
11. 2/27/2013 Atlanta GA Henry W. Grady HS K-12
12. 3/18/2013 Orlando FL University of Central Florida College/University
13. 3/21/2013 Southgate MI Davidson Middle School K-12
14. 4/12/2013 Christianburg VA New River Community College College/University
15. 4/13/2013 Elizabeth City NC Elizabeth City State University College/University
16. 4/15/2013 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
17. 4/16/2013 Tuscaloosa AL Stillman College College/University
18. 4/29/2013 Cincinnati OH La Salle High School K-12
19. 6/7/2013 Santa Monica CA Santa Monica College College/University
20. 6/19/2013 W. Palm Beach FL Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts K-12
21. 8/15/2013 Clarksville TN Northwest High School K-12
22. 8/20/2013 Decatur GA Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy K-12
23. 8/22/2013 Memphis TN Westside Elementary School K-12
24. 8/23/2013 Sardis MS North Panola High School K-12
25. 8/30/2013 Winston-Salem NC Carver High School K-12
26. 9/21/2013 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
27. 9/28/2013 Gray ME New Gloucester High School K-12
28. 10/4/2013 Pine Hills FL Agape Christian Academy K-12
29. 10/15/2013 Austin TX Lanier High School K-12
30. 10/21/2013 Sparks NV Sparks Middle School K-12
31. 11/1/2013 Algona IA Algona High/Middle School K-12
32. 11/2/2013 Greensboro NC North Carolina A&T State University College/University
33. 11/3/2013 Stone Mountain GA Stephenson High School K-12
34. 11/21/2013 Rapid City SD South Dakota School of Mines & Technology College/University
35. 12/4/2013 Winter Garden FL West Orange High School K-12
36. 12/13/2013 Arapahoe County CO Arapahoe High School K-12
37. 12/19/2013 Fresno CA Edison High School K-12
38. 1/9/2014 Jackson TN Liberty Technology Magnet HS K-12
39. 1/14/2014 Roswell NM Berrendo Middle School K-12
40. 1/15/2014 Lancaster PA Martin Luther King Jr. ES K-12
41. 1/17/2014 Philadelphia PA Delaware Valley Charter HS K-12
42. 1/20/2014 Chester PA Widener University College/University
43. 1/21/2014 West Lafayette IN Purdue University College/University
44. 1/24/2014 Orangeburg SC South Carolina State University College/University
45. 1/28/2014 Nashville TN Tennessee State University College/University
46. 1/28/2014 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
47. 1/30/2014 Palm Bay FL Eastern Florida State College College/University
48. 1/31/2014 Phoenix AZ Cesar Chavez High School K-12
49. 1/31/2014 Des Moines IA North High School K-12
50. 2/7/2014 Bend OR Bend High School K-12
51. 2/10/2014 Salisbury NC Salisbury High School K-12
52. 2/11/2014 Lyndhurst OH Brush High School K-12
53. 2/12/2014 Jackson TN Union University College/University
54. 2/20/2014 Raytown MO Raytown Success Academy K-12
55. 3/2/2014 Westminster MD McDaniel College College/University
56. 3/7/2014 Tallulah LA Madison High School K-12
57. 3/8/2014 Oshkosh WI University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh College/University
58. 3/21/2014 Newark DE University of Delaware College/University
59. 3/30/2014 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
60. 4/3/2014 Kent OH Kent State University College/University
61. 4/7/2014 Roswell NM Eastern New Mexico University-Roswell College/University
62. 4/11/2014 Detroit MI East English Village Preparatory Academy K-12
63. 4/21/2014 Griffith IN St. Mary Catholic School K-12
64. 4/21/2014 Provo UT Provo High School K-12
65. 4/26/2014 Council Bluffs IA Iowa Western Community College College/University
66. 5/2/2014 Milwaukee WI Marquette University College/University
67. 5/3/2014 Everett WA Horizon Elementary School K-12
68. 5/4/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
69. 5/5/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
70. 5/8/2014 Georgetown KY Georgetown College College/University
71. 5/8/2014 Lawrenceville GA Georgia Gwinnett College College/University
72. 5/21/2014 Milwaukee WI Clark Street School K-12
73. 6/5/2014 Seattle WA Seattle Pacific University College/University
74. 6/10/2014 Troutdale OR Reynolds High School K-12


The shooting at Northwest here in Clarksville had nothing to do with students.

They found a body of a 38 yr old man in the school parking lot at 6am.


I sense a bit of piling on.......Body found in parking lot of Clarksville high school - WKRN News 2

The gentleman who originally debunked this ludicrous claim found several that were actually just shootings that took place in the neighborhood near a school. The shootings had nothing to do with the school itself at all.
 
Sadly, I am finding a common thread in a number of these. They are in bad neighborhoods, gang turf wars and happening on grounds after hours, by felons, that would have a gun whether or not we confiscated guns as they acquired them illegally.
one involved a parent in a gang ridden neighborhood allowing their daughter to play on the playgound at 7 at night alone. She was caught in the crossfire.

With this common thread in a number of them it seems more needs to be done to bring these gangs down, clean up these neighborhoods.

I believe they also included an adult male who was being beaten by multiple attackers and used a gun to defend himself. But there was a school nearby, so . . .
 
ran across this...the dishonest with the gun control people is astounding and shameful









Media

‘Wow’: Journalist Attempts to ‘Debunk’ Anti-Gun Group’s List of ‘School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook’ — Here’s What He Found

?Wow?: Journalist Attempts to ?Debunk? Anti-Gun Group?s List of ?School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook? ? Here?s What He Found | TheBlaze.com



snip:


The list there:

Another fake shooting listed by Everytown gun map was drug related, not on campus.Suspect arrested in fatal shooting near Morehouse College - Atlanta News, Weather, Traffic, and Sports | FOX 5 #RHShooting
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake shooting listed by everytown. A gunman ran onto campus, was chased by police, shot student accidentally. Shooting reported at Indian River State College in Fort Pierce / PHOTO GALLERY » TCPalm.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by everytown. 19-year-old shot in elementary parking lot over dice game at 9 PM. Leads but no suspects in fatal shooting at San Leandro elementary school | abc7news.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by everytown. Gang-involved student accidentally shot herself in thigh. Student who shot herself at Grady High due in court | www.ajc.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014
Another fake school shooting by everytown. UCF college student committed suicide in public.UCF police: Seevakumaran planned to use 'Molotov cocktails' on fellow students - Orlando Sentinel

— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson)June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by Everytown. Teen committed suicide.Teen commits suicide at middle school in Southgate - Fox 2 News Headlines
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson)June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Off campus, gang-related shooting in NC.2 teens charged in shooting of Elizabeth City State Univ. student | WVEC.com Norfolk - Hampton Roads
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by #everytown. Student shoots friend over money they owe for illegal gambling. Fight Over Money Leads To Shooting at Stillman College - ABC 33/40 - Birmingham News, Weather, Sports
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by everytown. Honors student shoots self in front of class.Cincinnati student hospitalized after shooting himself
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by Everytown. Northwest High School principal shot by her ex-husband on campus. Schools React To Asst. Principal's Shooting Death - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Student killed because of gang activity.Three Men Arrested In Deadly North Panola High Shooting | WREG.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Yet another fake school shooting by Everytown. Student shoots another student over dispute over Nintendo Wii payment. Carver High School shooting suspect in court; victim talks | Piedmont - WXII Home
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 10, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Gang-related, student fist fight becomes gun fight.Student shot at Savannah State in good condition | AccessNorthGa
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Crazy man shoots himself at high school, never went to school. Police release name of teen who shot himself during homecoming festivities in Gray ? Lewiston-Auburn ? Bangor Daily News ? BDN Maine
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Nearly halfway there… Another fake Everytown school shooting. Student kills self in class.Student Commits Suicide At Lanier High School In Austin, Texas
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Ex-high school student kills self in parking lot.Algona school grounds death apparently self-inflicted
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Gang-related drive by is now a mass shooting?1 shot at North Carolina A&T State University
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake shooting by Everytown. Gang-related crossfire hits bystander.Stephenson High Student Shot at School - Police & Fire - Stone Mountain-Lithonia, GA Patch
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by Everytown. Professor kills self on campus.Mines professor apparently commits suicide on campus
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting by Everytown. Gang banger shoots another student in face.Student shot in face at West Orange High School | News - Home
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Fae school shooting listed by Everytown was gang initiation in Fresno. Arrest made in Edison High School shooting | abc30.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Another fake school shooting listed by Everytown. MLK elementary school shooting was drive by. Police: Shot fired at elementary school playground | Lancaster News - WGAL Home #RHshooting
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Fake school shooting listed by Everytown & promoted by media was gang related in Killadelphia charter school. 2 Students Shot Inside Philadelphia High School, Teen Turns Himself In | NBC Bay Area
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

School shooting listed by Everytown map was gang-related dispute at Widener University.Classes to resume at Widener University after shooting | Local - Home
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Everytown calls Cesar Chavez High School a “school shooting”; police call it a gang turf war.Phoenix police make 4 arrests in Chavez High School shooting
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

“School shooting” listed by Everytown in South Caroline State University was argument that got out of hand & was off campus.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Can’t find any evidence that supposed “school shooting” at Grambling, LA on January 28, 2014 listed by Everytown even occurred.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Wow. “School shooting” listed by Everytown at Eastern Florida State College was actually self-defense. Shooting on Fla. campus may have been self-defense
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

“School shooting” listed by Everytown at North High School, IA in Des Moines was gang-related, in parking lot. Police investigate shooting outside North High School | Local News - KCCI Home
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Salisbury High School, NC “school shooting” listed by Everytown was gang-related, accidentally. Suspect charged in Salisbury High shooting | Salisbury Post
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

“School shooting” at Brush High School, OR listed by Everytown was after hours, off campus, over a girl. Ban girls? Police: Two boys charged in Brush High School shooting may have fired shots at man over girl | cleveland.com
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

Union University “school shooting” listed by Everytown gun map was guy shooting his fiancee in parking lot. Staged it to look like suicide.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

“School shooting” at Raytown Success Academy, MO was in parking lot, not school related.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014

from;
CNN Slashes School Shooting Stats Claim By 80 Percent

So basically, if my next-door neighbor committed suicide, Everytown would have put it on their list, because our apartment complex is a block away from an elementary school.
 
I think everyone agrees that gangbangers are a major contributor to our murder rate. They make you, as a good guy, look bad for owning a gun. We need to do everything we can to dry up the supply of guns.
Will we stop every gun from getting in the hands of criminals? Of course not. But if we can cut 20%, that is 20% less guns on the street
Prison is not our answer to guns or drugs. We have a larger percentage of our citizens in prison than anywhere on earth. It is obviously not working

We lock up nonviolent offenders for bullshit things. I'm one for legalizing drugs and emptying the prisons of non violent drug offenders.

We should lock up violent people for good.

And I don't believe that some idiot gun owner makes me look bad just as a drunk driver doesn't make all drivers look bad..

You only look bad when you refuse to discuss keeping guns away from those who aren't capable of handling them properly.



who decides who are "those who aren't capable of handling them properly" ? You, the federal government, states, cities, doctors, police, political parties, the media, political hacks, lawyers??????????

who do you plan to give this power to?

What if a republican controlled government decided that all liberals are not capable of handling guns and confiscated all guns from registered democrats?

Like all libs, you never think these things through.
 
Because laws do work if you implement the right ones.
That's certainly true.

For example, if we were to implement a law that said everybody could carry, most people still wouldn't bother. But a few still would... and some guy contemplating knocking over a store or mugging an old lady, or shooting up a shopping mall, would know most people didn't have a gun... but somewhere in the crowd, a few did. And so he'd ber a lot more likely to turn around and walk away without doing anything.

All we need, is that law saying anybody can carry.

Oops, I guess we already made that law. It's in the Bill of Rights.

So it looks like we need one more requirement: We have to OBEY the laws we made.

Most the mass shooters are suicidal, the idea of some one being armed won't slow them. Look at the Vegas shooting. Only people killed were armed.

Even when a mass murderer is planning to suicide, he's planning to do it AT THE END. Otherwise, he wouldn't be planning a mass murder; he'd just go in his basement or whatever and get it over with. So he still doesn't want to get killed until he's accomplished his goal.
 
74 school shootings in the past 77 weeks.

Not 74 chemical bombings, not 74 stabbings, not 74 bows and arrows, not 74 hatchet attacks. The common denominator (do I need to define that term for you?) is guns.

If you Ammo-sexuals want to keep, sleep with and insert your guns into your privates because I really think it's that sick, then figure out a way to stop this epidemic.

This data tells me that the parents of these kids are pretty much out of touch with their kids, so start with them.

Do something besides shoving the 2nd Amendment in my face and whining about your fucking rights. Your rights end when innocent people who cannot protect themselves die.


School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook | Everytown for Gun Safety - School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook

#
Date
City
State
School Name
School Type
1. 1/08/2013 Fort Myers FL Apostolic Revival Center Christian School K-12
2. 1/10/2013 Taft CA Taft Union High School K-12
3. 1/15/2013 St. Louis MO Stevens Institute of Business & Arts College/University
4. 1/15/2013 Hazard KY Hazard Community and Technical College College/University
5. 1/16/2013 Chicago IL Chicago State University College/University
6. 1/22/2013
Houston TX Lone Star College North Harris Campus College/University
7. 1/31/2013 Atlanta GA Price Middle School K-12
8. 2/1/2013 Atlanta GA Morehouse College College/University
9. 2/7/2013 Fort Pierce FL Indian River St. College College/University
10. 2/13/2013 San Leandro CA Hillside Elementary School K-12
11. 2/27/2013 Atlanta GA Henry W. Grady HS K-12
12. 3/18/2013 Orlando FL University of Central Florida College/University
13. 3/21/2013 Southgate MI Davidson Middle School K-12
14. 4/12/2013 Christianburg VA New River Community College College/University
15. 4/13/2013 Elizabeth City NC Elizabeth City State University College/University
16. 4/15/2013 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
17. 4/16/2013 Tuscaloosa AL Stillman College College/University
18. 4/29/2013 Cincinnati OH La Salle High School K-12
19. 6/7/2013 Santa Monica CA Santa Monica College College/University
20. 6/19/2013 W. Palm Beach FL Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts K-12
21. 8/15/2013 Clarksville TN Northwest High School K-12
22. 8/20/2013 Decatur GA Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy K-12
23. 8/22/2013 Memphis TN Westside Elementary School K-12
24. 8/23/2013 Sardis MS North Panola High School K-12
25. 8/30/2013 Winston-Salem NC Carver High School K-12
26. 9/21/2013 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
27. 9/28/2013 Gray ME New Gloucester High School K-12
28. 10/4/2013 Pine Hills FL Agape Christian Academy K-12
29. 10/15/2013 Austin TX Lanier High School K-12
30. 10/21/2013 Sparks NV Sparks Middle School K-12
31. 11/1/2013 Algona IA Algona High/Middle School K-12
32. 11/2/2013 Greensboro NC North Carolina A&T State University College/University
33. 11/3/2013 Stone Mountain GA Stephenson High School K-12
34. 11/21/2013 Rapid City SD South Dakota School of Mines & Technology College/University
35. 12/4/2013 Winter Garden FL West Orange High School K-12
36. 12/13/2013 Arapahoe County CO Arapahoe High School K-12
37. 12/19/2013 Fresno CA Edison High School K-12
38. 1/9/2014 Jackson TN Liberty Technology Magnet HS K-12
39. 1/14/2014 Roswell NM Berrendo Middle School K-12
40. 1/15/2014 Lancaster PA Martin Luther King Jr. ES K-12
41. 1/17/2014 Philadelphia PA Delaware Valley Charter HS K-12
42. 1/20/2014 Chester PA Widener University College/University
43. 1/21/2014 West Lafayette IN Purdue University College/University
44. 1/24/2014 Orangeburg SC South Carolina State University College/University
45. 1/28/2014 Nashville TN Tennessee State University College/University
46. 1/28/2014 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
47. 1/30/2014 Palm Bay FL Eastern Florida State College College/University
48. 1/31/2014 Phoenix AZ Cesar Chavez High School K-12
49. 1/31/2014 Des Moines IA North High School K-12
50. 2/7/2014 Bend OR Bend High School K-12
51. 2/10/2014 Salisbury NC Salisbury High School K-12
52. 2/11/2014 Lyndhurst OH Brush High School K-12
53. 2/12/2014 Jackson TN Union University College/University
54. 2/20/2014 Raytown MO Raytown Success Academy K-12
55. 3/2/2014 Westminster MD McDaniel College College/University
56. 3/7/2014 Tallulah LA Madison High School K-12
57. 3/8/2014 Oshkosh WI University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh College/University
58. 3/21/2014 Newark DE University of Delaware College/University
59. 3/30/2014 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
60. 4/3/2014 Kent OH Kent State University College/University
61. 4/7/2014 Roswell NM Eastern New Mexico University-Roswell College/University
62. 4/11/2014 Detroit MI East English Village Preparatory Academy K-12
63. 4/21/2014 Griffith IN St. Mary Catholic School K-12
64. 4/21/2014 Provo UT Provo High School K-12
65. 4/26/2014 Council Bluffs IA Iowa Western Community College College/University
66. 5/2/2014 Milwaukee WI Marquette University College/University
67. 5/3/2014 Everett WA Horizon Elementary School K-12
68. 5/4/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
69. 5/5/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
70. 5/8/2014 Georgetown KY Georgetown College College/University
71. 5/8/2014 Lawrenceville GA Georgia Gwinnett College College/University
72. 5/21/2014 Milwaukee WI Clark Street School K-12
73. 6/5/2014 Seattle WA Seattle Pacific University College/University
74. 6/10/2014 Troutdale OR Reynolds High School K-12



The problem with this list and with anti gun nuts in general is its all bullshit. most of these incidents did not involve a school shooting at all. A student from school x comits suicide. its on this list as a school shooting. shote reported heard near school y, it makes the list. kid brings toy gun to school, it makes the list. some guy kills his wife near the school it makes the list. no wonder no one takes these idiots seriously

So someone who uses a gun to commit suicide is not considered a shooting? Really.

This list above is accurate, and CNN's analysis of it was misunderstood. This is a quote from the actual source:


"Everytown identifies a school shooting as any instance in which a firearm was discharged within a school building or on school grounds, sourced to multiple news reports per incident. Therefore, the data isn’t limited to mass shootings like Newtown—it includes assaults, homicides, suicides and even accidental shootings. Of the shootings, 35 took place at a college or university, while 39 took place in K-12 schools.""

In the News | Everytown for Gun Safety

Ooh, goalpost-moving. You can stop waving your white flag now. We all know you've been beaten and humiliated.
 

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