81% of Americans under 45 would fail basic ‘US citizenship test’

[DrLove]

Of course - And nothing has changed since then. N-O-T-H-I-N-G!

You just mad you can't indoctrinate school children in North Platte, Nebraska with your liberal views.

Yes, and I would also indoctrinate and recruit them into homosexuality.
Gawd you dumb

What is that suppose to mean, come on tell us how the United States would of got the slave states to join with out the Electoral college???

The Constitution worked just fine -------- WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN

And it still does to this day.

No not really - But carry on my wayward son!

 

[Unkotare]

Yes, I have taken the test. I also taught the subject for 21 years so knock off the bullshit about it not being taught. The human brain categorizes the importance of information to be remembered. It is simply not being retained by choice.

That is nothing new. I cannot remember my daughter's phone number because I have no need to ever use it. My cell phone remembers it for me.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

It is taught but not retained. I mean look. Only 25% of the public votes in the midterms. That is pathetic, but that's what's important to the American public. Teachers can "make" students retain information long enough to regurgitate it on a test to pass in school. They cannot "make" students remember it 10, 20, 30 plus years later.

Just like my algebra teachers could not "make" me retain all that math years later. I didn't use it, didn't need it. It's gone. It's not important to me.

I would venture to say that most people remember the words and melodies to most if not all pop songs from their school days. Why? Repetition.

I remember every Shakespeare monologue and soliloquy I memorized in the course of my high school acting career. Why? Repetition.

Facts are the same way. You study, you memorize, you remember.

I also ... ahem ... remember every party I went to, and who was there, where it was, what I was drinking that night, and for the most part when it was.

Great! Now, try making students repeat that information. They won't, so what good does it do?

Drill them again, and test them again. Eventually, they'll get tired of the process and learn the stuff.

Guess what, dumbass! You don't have time for that! You practically cannot require homework anymore because conservatives and liberal parents rebelled and the school boards have made it a living hell for teachers to meet the goals without the resources to make it happen. That is why teachers burn out early and leave the profession.

I give homework every day.

 

[Unkotare]

You just mad you can't indoctrinate school children in North Platte, Nebraska with your liberal views.

Yes, and I would also indoctrinate and recruit them into homosexuality.
Gawd you dumb

What is that suppose to mean, come on tell us how the United States would of got the slave states to join with out the Electoral college???

The Constitution worked just fine -------- WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN

And it still does to this day.

No not really - ....

Yes, really, it works just fine.

 

[Unkotare]

Do you know brain research? I do. I'm a teacher.

In the first instance, melody attached to words sears to a different part of the brain than simple words alone. We know this. It's why people with alzheimers and dementia can recall song lyrics from long ago. Secondly, you are proving that Project Based Education works with your second example and Shakespeare. The words were attached to a play that would be performed, not just rote memorization and "facts". But conservatives generally hate that "liberal namby-pamby stuff"--but liberals are right in this. If the learning is unimportant and has no place in real life, or no end point, no one retains it.

Conservatives generally suck at understanding education. I say this as a conservative, btw.

In your third example, anything, again, that touched on your social emotional, REAL life will be long imprinted on your memory. If you make teenagers memorize long lists of facts that have no meaning to their real life, not only will they hate it, they won't remember it.

So, you just rather shot your whole case to smithereens with your examples.

Nope. You believe I did. There's a difference.

My son was made to drill the first ten Constitutional amendments when he was nine. They had no meaning to his real life, but he had to memorize them word for word regardless, and did.

That was twenty years ago. He can still rattle them off.

In any event, the lack of memorization of facts in current educational practices and the dependence upon various machines to replace the brain is largely to blame for the public system turning out hordes of barely functional idiots.

When I was in school (old man mantra) the United States was ranked first in education in the world. Now, we are twenty-seventh. The product produced with all of these Critical Thinking Skills and Project Based Education seems to have completely faceplanted. One cannot think critically without something in one's head about which to critically think.

In any event, it was most unwise to replace American History and Civics with multicultural, gender and diversity studies. The results are quite clear.

Your son can probably rattle that off because he was raised in a household where the Constitution was valued and honored; where this was part of who he was all around him. IOW it resonated with him. That's why he retained it for so many years.

I totally agree that children must be taught the basics in a very "basic" way, NOT with technology. I completely agree that you cannot think critically if you have nothing to think critically ABOUT. You cannot construct thinking from no knowledge. Totally agree there.

But we cannot end anymore with regurgitated facts. Google can give you that.

If Google is available. Who said anything about an "end"?

Regurgitated facts is not LEARNING

But they ARE knowledge, and a path to further knowledge. Intelligence is the ability to make connections between disparate facts. If you don't know facts, there is nothing to connect.

And mostly, conservatives sneer and snort and it and want kids to go back to rote memorization as not only a launching pad to learning, but as the end-all.

I know no one who considers it an "end-all".

Conservatives do not do education well. They just don't

Moot.

In any event, I am not conservative, but liberal in the classic definition.

No, on the topic of education, you are apparently a moron in the classic definition. You have three teachers/former teachers on this thread telling you that you are full of shit.

One is judged by what one produces. The product currently produced by the public system is of lowest quality.

To drop from 1st to 27th indicates a deep-seated problem in both philosophy and methods.

MA is top in the nation. Y’all get your states sorted out.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Nope. You believe I did. There's a difference.

My son was made to drill the first ten Constitutional amendments when he was nine. They had no meaning to his real life, but he had to memorize them word for word regardless, and did.

That was twenty years ago. He can still rattle them off.

In any event, the lack of memorization of facts in current educational practices and the dependence upon various machines to replace the brain is largely to blame for the public system turning out hordes of barely functional idiots.

When I was in school (old man mantra) the United States was ranked first in education in the world. Now, we are twenty-seventh. The product produced with all of these Critical Thinking Skills and Project Based Education seems to have completely faceplanted. One cannot think critically without something in one's head about which to critically think.

In any event, it was most unwise to replace American History and Civics with multicultural, gender and diversity studies. The results are quite clear.

Your son can probably rattle that off because he was raised in a household where the Constitution was valued and honored; where this was part of who he was all around him. IOW it resonated with him. That's why he retained it for so many years.

I totally agree that children must be taught the basics in a very "basic" way, NOT with technology. I completely agree that you cannot think critically if you have nothing to think critically ABOUT. You cannot construct thinking from no knowledge. Totally agree there.

But we cannot end anymore with regurgitated facts. Google can give you that.

If Google is available. Who said anything about an "end"?

Regurgitated facts is not LEARNING

But they ARE knowledge, and a path to further knowledge. Intelligence is the ability to make connections between disparate facts. If you don't know facts, there is nothing to connect.

And mostly, conservatives sneer and snort and it and want kids to go back to rote memorization as not only a launching pad to learning, but as the end-all.

I know no one who considers it an "end-all".

Conservatives do not do education well. They just don't

Moot.

In any event, I am not conservative, but liberal in the classic definition.

No, on the topic of education, you are apparently a moron in the classic definition. You have three teachers/former teachers on this thread telling you that you are full of shit.

One is judged by what one produces. The product currently produced by the public system is of lowest quality.

To drop from 1st to 27th indicates a deep-seated problem in both philosophy and methods.

MA is top in the nation. Y’all get your states sorted out.

I was speaking globally.

 

[Unkotare]

Your son can probably rattle that off because he was raised in a household where the Constitution was valued and honored; where this was part of who he was all around him. IOW it resonated with him. That's why he retained it for so many years.

I totally agree that children must be taught the basics in a very "basic" way, NOT with technology. I completely agree that you cannot think critically if you have nothing to think critically ABOUT. You cannot construct thinking from no knowledge. Totally agree there.

But we cannot end anymore with regurgitated facts. Google can give you that.

If Google is available. Who said anything about an "end"?

Regurgitated facts is not LEARNING

But they ARE knowledge, and a path to further knowledge. Intelligence is the ability to make connections between disparate facts. If you don't know facts, there is nothing to connect.

And mostly, conservatives sneer and snort and it and want kids to go back to rote memorization as not only a launching pad to learning, but as the end-all.

I know no one who considers it an "end-all".

Conservatives do not do education well. They just don't

Moot.

In any event, I am not conservative, but liberal in the classic definition.

No, on the topic of education, you are apparently a moron in the classic definition. You have three teachers/former teachers on this thread telling you that you are full of shit.

One is judged by what one produces. The product currently produced by the public system is of lowest quality.

To drop from 1st to 27th indicates a deep-seated problem in both philosophy and methods.

MA is top in the nation. Y’all get your states sorted out.

I was speaking globally.

If MA were a country, it would rank 2nd in the world in reading literacy, 6th in science, and 21st in math.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If Google is available. Who said anything about an "end"?

But they ARE knowledge, and a path to further knowledge. Intelligence is the ability to make connections between disparate facts. If you don't know facts, there is nothing to connect.

I know no one who considers it an "end-all".

Moot.

In any event, I am not conservative, but liberal in the classic definition.

No, on the topic of education, you are apparently a moron in the classic definition. You have three teachers/former teachers on this thread telling you that you are full of shit.

One is judged by what one produces. The product currently produced by the public system is of lowest quality.

To drop from 1st to 27th indicates a deep-seated problem in both philosophy and methods.

MA is top in the nation. Y’all get your states sorted out.

I was speaking globally.

If MA were a country, it would rank 2nd in the world in reading literacy, 6th in science, and 21st in math.

Shrug.

Which means what?

 

[Unkotare]

No, on the topic of education, you are apparently a moron in the classic definition. You have three teachers/former teachers on this thread telling you that you are full of shit.

One is judged by what one produces. The product currently produced by the public system is of lowest quality.

To drop from 1st to 27th indicates a deep-seated problem in both philosophy and methods.

MA is top in the nation. Y’all get your states sorted out.

I was speaking globally.

If MA were a country, it would rank 2nd in the world in reading literacy, 6th in science, and 21st in math.

Shrug.

Which means what?

Which means I’m wicked awesome.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

It is taught but not retained. I mean look. Only 25% of the public votes in the midterms. That is pathetic, but that's what's important to the American public. Teachers can "make" students retain information long enough to regurgitate it on a test to pass in school. They cannot "make" students remember it 10, 20, 30 plus years later.

Just like my algebra teachers could not "make" me retain all that math years later. I didn't use it, didn't need it. It's gone. It's not important to me.

I would venture to say that most people remember the words and melodies to most if not all pop songs from their school days. Why? Repetition.

I remember every Shakespeare monologue and soliloquy I memorized in the course of my high school acting career. Why? Repetition.

Facts are the same way. You study, you memorize, you remember.

I also ... ahem ... remember every party I went to, and who was there, where it was, what I was drinking that night, and for the most part when it was.

Great! Now, try making students repeat that information. They won't, so what good does it do?

Drill them again, and test them again. Eventually, they'll get tired of the process and learn the stuff.

Guess what, dumbass! You don't have time for that! You practically cannot require homework anymore because conservatives and liberal parents rebelled and the school boards have made it a living hell for teachers to meet the goals without the resources to make it happen. That is why teachers burn out early and leave the profession.

You make my point for me. It's time for changes to the system right across the board.

You have to change society first! You cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well, what do you expect? California rates so low compared to other states because no one speaks fricking English!

And California having more population than most States combined means the left are chugging out morons by the truck load.

Yes, you hit the nail on the head. They are mostly the offspring of illegals who cannot speak English well in school because no one speaks it at home.

Wrong. Kids born in the US almost always acquire English as a first language regardless.

Who said they were born in the US?

....

You implied that.

No. You assumed that.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

It is taught but not retained. I mean look. Only 25% of the public votes in the midterms. That is pathetic, but that's what's important to the American public. Teachers can "make" students retain information long enough to regurgitate it on a test to pass in school. They cannot "make" students remember it 10, 20, 30 plus years later.

Just like my algebra teachers could not "make" me retain all that math years later. I didn't use it, didn't need it. It's gone. It's not important to me.

I would venture to say that most people remember the words and melodies to most if not all pop songs from their school days. Why? Repetition.

I remember every Shakespeare monologue and soliloquy I memorized in the course of my high school acting career. Why? Repetition.

Facts are the same way. You study, you memorize, you remember.

I also ... ahem ... remember every party I went to, and who was there, where it was, what I was drinking that night, and for the most part when it was.

Do you know brain research? I do. I'm a teacher.

In the first instance, melody attached to words sears to a different part of the brain than simple words alone. We know this. It's why people with alzheimers and dementia can recall song lyrics from long ago. Secondly, you are proving that Project Based Education works with your second example and Shakespeare. The words were attached to a play that would be performed, not just rote memorization and "facts". But conservatives generally hate that "liberal namby-pamby stuff"--but liberals are right in this. If the learning is unimportant and has no place in real life, or no end point, no one retains it.

Conservatives generally suck at understanding education. I say this as a conservative, btw.

In your third example, anything, again, that touched on your social emotional, REAL life will be long imprinted on your memory. If you make teenagers memorize long lists of facts that have no meaning to their real life, not only will they hate it, they won't remember it.

So, you just rather shot your whole case to smithereens with your examples.

Nope. You believe I did. There's a difference.

My son was made to drill the first ten Constitutional amendments when he was nine. They had no meaning to his real life, but he had to memorize them word for word regardless, and did.

That was twenty years ago. He can still rattle them off.

In any event, the lack of memorization of facts in current educational practices and the dependence upon various machines to replace the brain is largely to blame for the public system turning out hordes of barely functional idiots.

When I was in school (old man mantra) the United States was ranked first in education in the world. Now, we are twenty-seventh. The product produced with all of these Critical Thinking Skills and Project Based Education things seems to have completely faceplanted. After all, one cannot think critically without something in one's head about which to critically think.

In any event, it was most unwise to replace American History and Civics with multicultural, gender and diversity studies. The results are quite clear.

The reason our rankings have plummeted is simple. We are overrun with immigrants and the kids that didn't even attend school because of mental and physical handicaps when I attended school are now sitting in the classroom being tested on an equal basis with "normal" students. What do you think that does to the averages?

See #177.

I'll see your #177 and raise you to #189.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

It is taught but not retained. I mean look. Only 25% of the public votes in the midterms. That is pathetic, but that's what's important to the American public. Teachers can "make" students retain information long enough to regurgitate it on a test to pass in school. They cannot "make" students remember it 10, 20, 30 plus years later.

Just like my algebra teachers could not "make" me retain all that math years later. I didn't use it, didn't need it. It's gone. It's not important to me.

I would venture to say that most people remember the words and melodies to most if not all pop songs from their school days. Why? Repetition.

I remember every Shakespeare monologue and soliloquy I memorized in the course of my high school acting career. Why? Repetition.

Facts are the same way. You study, you memorize, you remember.

I also ... ahem ... remember every party I went to, and who was there, where it was, what I was drinking that night, and for the most part when it was.

Great! Now, try making students repeat that information. They won't, so what good does it do?

Drill them again, and test them again. Eventually, they'll get tired of the process and learn the stuff.

Guess what, dumbass! You don't have time for that! You practically cannot require homework anymore because conservatives and liberal parents rebelled and the school boards have made it a living hell for teachers to meet the goals without the resources to make it happen. That is why teachers burn out early and leave the profession.

I give homework every day.

Good for you! So did I!

Now, lets talk about the millions of others that don't because they are tired of the mental abuse.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What the hell has happened to our education system? One would think that pride in this country would call for teaching our youths all the things that give them futures not available anywhere else in the world.

Just one-in-three Americans passed the multiple choice exam that is undertaken by foreigners. Shockingly, 87 percent of respondents did not know that the US Constitution was ratified in 1787, while 60 percent of respondents couldn't identify which countries fought in World War II against the US and its allies.

While many Americans aren’t shy when it comes to expressing their opinion regarding the controversy surrounding US Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, only 43 percent knew the actual number of justices (nine) that protect the nation’s constitution.

Some 72 percent failed to correctly identify the 13 original states from a list of options offered to them in the multiple-choice questions.

The problem with basic civic knowledge seems to be more acute for those aged 45 and under, with only 19 percent passing the mock test. Those 65 years and older, however, managed to answer the questions with 74-percent success rate.

By the time I reached my junior year in high school, I’d had at least 5 classes about American history and government. Why is it no longer important in our education system?

More of this disgusting stuff @ ‘Woefully uninformed’: 81% of Americans under 45 would fail basic ‘US citizenship test’

Americans Have Almost Entirely Forgotten Their History @ Americans Have Almost Entirely Forgotten Their History

While many Americans aren’t shy when it comes to expressing their opinion regarding the controversy surrounding US Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, only 43 percent knew the actual number of justices (nine) that protect the nation’s constitution.

Duh! - $30,000,000 + way more Dark Money was spent in 2 weeks BLASTING Every TV, Computer & Phone Screen with Kavanaugh propaganda! That's more than 7 times what was spent on Education over the same period of time!!! Over 80% of it was pro-Kavanaugh propaganda Dark Money that came Repubtard donors!!! Rich people hate an educated voter!

I was wondering why the left was so against kavanaugh.


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[initforme]

Well I don't think there is one employer out there that asks any of these citizenship questions nor do any employers care one iota at all about this. The op is pure nonsense. Beyond stupid. They don't teach it every year because most Americans don't ever use it on the job. What is the matter with you people? It's taught. But the forgotten because it's UNIMPORTANT knowledge.

 

[rightwinger]

Well I don't think there is one employer out there that asks any of these citizenship questions nor do any employers care one iota at all about this. The op is pure nonsense. Beyond stupid. They don't teach it every year because most Americans don't ever use it on the job. What is the matter with you people? It's taught. But the forgotten because it's UNIMPORTANT knowledge.

To many Americans it is like the foreign language we learned in HS. We memorized it for the tests but it was forgotten from lack of use

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I would venture to say that most people remember the words and melodies to most if not all pop songs from their school days. Why? Repetition.

I remember every Shakespeare monologue and soliloquy I memorized in the course of my high school acting career. Why? Repetition.

Facts are the same way. You study, you memorize, you remember.

I also ... ahem ... remember every party I went to, and who was there, where it was, what I was drinking that night, and for the most part when it was.

Great! Now, try making students repeat that information. They won't, so what good does it do?

Drill them again, and test them again. Eventually, they'll get tired of the process and learn the stuff.

Guess what, dumbass! You don't have time for that! You practically cannot require homework anymore because conservatives and liberal parents rebelled and the school boards have made it a living hell for teachers to meet the goals without the resources to make it happen. That is why teachers burn out early and leave the profession.

You make my point for me. It's time for changes to the system right across the board.

You have to change society first! You cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit!

Yes. For starters, stop mixing all levels of abilities. Academics have their own classes. Those not academically inclined go to vocational classes. Those who have special needs go to special needs classes. Those who are unmotivated and cause a disturbance go to the disturbed school. ESL students go to ESL classes until their English becomes proficient enough to attend the above mentioned regular classes.

Just for starters. This is how it was done when I was in school. At that time, America was ranked #1 in the world.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Great! Now, try making students repeat that information. They won't, so what good does it do?

Drill them again, and test them again. Eventually, they'll get tired of the process and learn the stuff.

Guess what, dumbass! You don't have time for that! You practically cannot require homework anymore because conservatives and liberal parents rebelled and the school boards have made it a living hell for teachers to meet the goals without the resources to make it happen. That is why teachers burn out early and leave the profession.

You make my point for me. It's time for changes to the system right across the board.

You have to change society first! You cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit!

Yes. For starters, stop mixing all levels of abilities. Academics have their own classes. Those not academically inclined go to vocational classes. Those who have special needs go to special needs classes. Those who are unmotivated and cause a disturbance go to the disturbed school. ESL students go to ESL classes until their English becomes proficient enough to attend the above mentioned regular classes.

Just for starters. This is how it was done when I was in school. At that time, America was ranked #1 in the world.

Mixing levels of abilities? Then why are you demanding such high performance out of kids? That ranking is not going to improve is some kids only take Math of Dummies instead of the Algebra II currently required in most states. Also, last time I checked, vocational classes involved some fairly complicated math such as geometry and algebra.

Who are you going to get to teach these juvenile delinquents in training? Teachers don't get paid enough already and now you want them to put up with classes comprised of derelicts?

If you want ESL students taken care of, tell that to Congress who thinks they should be fluent in English in only two years when all research says it takes a good 7 years. If we do as you propose, the students will not learn any other subjects until they master English? Great plan!

Why don't you run for your local school board with that plan and see how far you get? You might get one vote if you vote for yourself. I doubt your family and friends are that dumb.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Drill them again, and test them again. Eventually, they'll get tired of the process and learn the stuff.

Guess what, dumbass! You don't have time for that! You practically cannot require homework anymore because conservatives and liberal parents rebelled and the school boards have made it a living hell for teachers to meet the goals without the resources to make it happen. That is why teachers burn out early and leave the profession.

You make my point for me. It's time for changes to the system right across the board.

You have to change society first! You cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit!

Yes. For starters, stop mixing all levels of abilities. Academics have their own classes. Those not academically inclined go to vocational classes. Those who have special needs go to special needs classes. Those who are unmotivated and cause a disturbance go to the disturbed school. ESL students go to ESL classes until their English becomes proficient enough to attend the above mentioned regular classes.

Just for starters. This is how it was done when I was in school. At that time, America was ranked #1 in the world.

Mixing levels of abilities? Then why are you demanding such high performance out of kids? That ranking is not going to improve is some kids only take Math of Dummies instead of the Algebra II currently required in most states. Also, last time I checked, vocational classes involved some fairly complicated math such as geometry and algebra.

Who are you going to get to teach these juvenile delinquents in training? Teachers don't get paid enough already and now you want them to put up with classes comprised of derelicts?

If you want ESL students taken care of, tell that to Congress who thinks they should be fluent in English in only two years when all research says it takes a good 7 years. If we do as you propose, the students will not learn any other subjects until they master English? Great plan!

Why don't you run for your local school board with that plan and see how far you get? You might get one vote if you vote for yourself. I doubt your family and friends are that dumb.

Not my rabbit. My son was homeschooled, is grown and is becoming ridiculously successful in what he does.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Guess what, dumbass! You don't have time for that! You practically cannot require homework anymore because conservatives and liberal parents rebelled and the school boards have made it a living hell for teachers to meet the goals without the resources to make it happen. That is why teachers burn out early and leave the profession.

You make my point for me. It's time for changes to the system right across the board.

You have to change society first! You cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit!

Yes. For starters, stop mixing all levels of abilities. Academics have their own classes. Those not academically inclined go to vocational classes. Those who have special needs go to special needs classes. Those who are unmotivated and cause a disturbance go to the disturbed school. ESL students go to ESL classes until their English becomes proficient enough to attend the above mentioned regular classes.

Just for starters. This is how it was done when I was in school. At that time, America was ranked #1 in the world.

Mixing levels of abilities? Then why are you demanding such high performance out of kids? That ranking is not going to improve is some kids only take Math of Dummies instead of the Algebra II currently required in most states. Also, last time I checked, vocational classes involved some fairly complicated math such as geometry and algebra.

Who are you going to get to teach these juvenile delinquents in training? Teachers don't get paid enough already and now you want them to put up with classes comprised of derelicts?

If you want ESL students taken care of, tell that to Congress who thinks they should be fluent in English in only two years when all research says it takes a good 7 years. If we do as you propose, the students will not learn any other subjects until they master English? Great plan!

Why don't you run for your local school board with that plan and see how far you get? You might get one vote if you vote for yourself. I doubt your family and friends are that dumb.

Not my rabbit. My son was homeschooled, is grown and is becoming ridiculously successful in what he does.

Good for him! It is amazing what kids can do to overcome a stupid parent!

 

[Unkotare]

And California having more population than most States combined means the left are chugging out morons by the truck load.

Yes, you hit the nail on the head. They are mostly the offspring of illegals who cannot speak English well in school because no one speaks it at home.

Wrong. Kids born in the US almost always acquire English as a first language regardless.

Who said they were born in the US?

....

You implied that.

No. You assumed that.

Among my tribe we call that "false." You mentioned one and only one factor in a particular group of students failing to "speak English well." That factor was "because no one speaks it at home." When you said "the offspring of illegals," you implied people in the country illegally who then had offspring.

This is your chance to put a steak on your eye and admit you were wrong, or act like a pissy little ahole and try to spin further. I'm hoping you make the right call.