8Hr workday? Weekends? Thank Henry Ford and Capitalism!

[NYcarbineer]

So liberty is a myth. Good one.

Since when does liberty mean not working to succeed?

Liberty has never been defined by an 8 hour work day or two weeks paid vacation.

Liberty is being able to choose to be the guy who only works just enough not to get fired, never leave any sick time unused, never work a holiday or leave a vacation day on the table and lives paycheck to paycheck or to be the guy who puts in the hours, gets the high paying upper echelon jobs or starts a business and employs other people because he chose to work more than 8 hours a day.



We have shit loads of liberty in this country

Nobody working in a factory 12 hours a day 6 days a week just to take care of his family has liberty.

Nice to see you've slipped up and revealed your true vision of how America should be.

Sounds like somebody made some poor choices. Sucks. Deal with it.

I don't have to. I'm not the dinosaur. I have the law and the People on my side.

What? You drinking already?

You people are arguing against the 8 hour day. Like it's 1910 or something. You're the dinosaurs.

We won. Get over it.

 

[billyerock1991]

Yup, labor unions have done nothing for America but eroded jobs and wages, raising them for select union workers but lowering them for everyone else. Capitalism is responsible for the high standard of living here. Socialism is responsible for its reverse. This is indisputable.
Does the 8-hour day and the 40-hour week come from Henry Ford, or labor unions?

you know every time I see your post I feel sorry for you ... how can one persion be so ignorant

 

[Flash]

[Q


We need more laws so mr business man doesn't hurt our country. IT, CS, and Finance jobs should not be offshore. We need to tax those out if country services heavily.

No we don't need more laws. We have far too many already and that is the reason why so many of our business are going overseas.

It use to be where foreign businesses would come here but now our businesses are fleeing high taxation and a hostile business environment thaks to our oppressive big bloated Progressive government.

The economic entity in the world that has the most economic freedom and significant economic growth is Hong Kong with very few regulations. That should be our economic model rather than the Democratic Socialist Venezuela model that you Moon Bats crave so much.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Since when does liberty mean not working to succeed?

Liberty has never been defined by an 8 hour work day or two weeks paid vacation.

Liberty is being able to choose to be the guy who only works just enough not to get fired, never leave any sick time unused, never work a holiday or leave a vacation day on the table and lives paycheck to paycheck or to be the guy who puts in the hours, gets the high paying upper echelon jobs or starts a business and employs other people because he chose to work more than 8 hours a day.



We have shit loads of liberty in this country

Nobody working in a factory 12 hours a day 6 days a week just to take care of his family has liberty.

Nice to see you've slipped up and revealed your true vision of how America should be.

Sounds like somebody made some poor choices. Sucks. Deal with it.

I don't have to. I'm not the dinosaur. I have the law and the People on my side.

What? You drinking already?

You people are arguing against the 8 hour day. Like it's 1910 or something. You're the dinosaurs.

We won. Get over it.

I never argued any such thing. You won? Won what? The right to sit on your ass all day and do as little as possible?

Yeah, that's awesome.

Got it, you're a lard-ass.

 

[billyerock1991]

here are just 5 things unions have done for the working public ... there are more

1. Unions Gave Us The Weekend: Even the ultra-conservative Mises Institute notes that the relatively labor-free 1870, the average workweek for most Americans was 61 hours — almost double what most Americans work now. Yet in the late nineteenth century and the twentieth century, labor unions engaged in massive strikes in order to demand shorter workweeks so that Americans could be home with their loved ones instead of constantly toiling for their employers with no leisure time. By 1937, these labor actions created enough political momentum to pass the Fair Labor Standards Act, which helped create a federal framework for a shorter workweek that included room for leisure time.

2. Unions Gave Us Fair Wages And Relative Income Equality: As ThinkProgress reported earlier in the week, the relative decline of unions over the past 35 years has mirrored a decline in the middle class’s share of national income. It is also true that at the time when most Americans belonged to a union — a period of time between the 1940’s and 1950’s — income inequality in the U.S. was at its lowest point in the history of the country.

3. Unions Helped End Child Labor: “Union organizing and child labor reform were often intertwined” in U.S. history, with organization’s like the “National Consumers’ League” and the National Child Labor Committee” working together in the early 20th century to ban child labor. The very first American Federation of Labor (AFL) national convention passed “a resolution calling on states to ban children under 14 from all gainful employment” in 1881, and soon after states across the country adopted similar recommendations, leading up to the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act which regulated child labor on the federal level for the first time.

4. Unions Won Widespread Employer-Based Health Coverage: “The rise of unions in the 1930’s and 1940’s led to the first great expansion of health care” for all Americans, as labor unions banded workers together to negotiate for health coverage plans from employers. In 1942, “the US set up a National War Labor Board. It had the power to set a cap on all wage increases. But it let employers circumvent the cap by offering “fringe benefits” – notably, health insurance.” By 1950, “half of all companies with fewer than 250 workers and two-thirds of all companies with more than 250 workers offered health insurance of one kind or another.”

5. Unions Spearheaded The Fight For The Family And Medical Leave Act: Labor unions like the AFL-CIO federation led the fight for this 1993 law, which “requires state agencies and private employers with more than 50 employees to provide up to 12 weeks of job-protected unpaid leave annually for workers to care for a newborn, newly adopted child, seriously ill family member or for the worker’s own illness.”


as always the rabbi has no idea in what he's talking about... the reason he doesn't like unions is the majority of them vote for democrats ... because republicans supports big business and not the people ... thats why he says the bull shit that he does

 

[Flash]

[Q

If you think Hillary Clinton is no different than Donald Trump then vote for her.

I am not voting for either one because they are both big government liberals, which is terrible for our country.

However, you are a Moon Bat that can't help yourself but to vote for Crooked Hillary in November. You can't think for yourself so you will put a check by anybody that has a "D" by their name even if it is a dishonest corrupt lying incompetent bitch like Crooked Hillary.

We have a name for Moon Bats like you. Because you are low information and uneducated but yet believe everything the Democrats tell you we call you Gruberididots. The stupid Americans that always believe the Democrat horseshit, no matter how ridiculous it is.

 

[Flash]

here are just 5 things unions have done for the working public ... there are more

1. Unions Gave Us The Weekend: Even the ultra-conservative Mises Institute notes that the relatively labor-free 1870, the average workweek for most Americans was 61 hours — almost double what most Americans work now. Yet in the late nineteenth century and the twentieth century, labor unions engaged in massive strikes in order to demand shorter workweeks so that Americans could be home with their loved ones instead of constantly toiling for their employers with no leisure time. By 1937, these labor actions created enough political momentum to pass the Fair Labor Standards Act, which helped create a federal framework for a shorter workweek that included room for leisure time.

2. Unions Gave Us Fair Wages And Relative Income Equality: As ThinkProgress reported earlier in the week, the relative decline of unions over the past 35 years has mirrored a decline in the middle class’s share of national income. It is also true that at the time when most Americans belonged to a union — a period of time between the 1940’s and 1950’s — income inequality in the U.S. was at its lowest point in the history of the country.

3. Unions Helped End Child Labor: “Union organizing and child labor reform were often intertwined” in U.S. history, with organization’s like the “National Consumers’ League” and the National Child Labor Committee” working together in the early 20th century to ban child labor. The very first American Federation of Labor (AFL) national convention passed “a resolution calling on states to ban children under 14 from all gainful employment” in 1881, and soon after states across the country adopted similar recommendations, leading up to the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act which regulated child labor on the federal level for the first time.

4. Unions Won Widespread Employer-Based Health Coverage: “The rise of unions in the 1930’s and 1940’s led to the first great expansion of health care” for all Americans, as labor unions banded workers together to negotiate for health coverage plans from employers. In 1942, “the US set up a National War Labor Board. It had the power to set a cap on all wage increases. But it let employers circumvent the cap by offering “fringe benefits” – notably, health insurance.” By 1950, “half of all companies with fewer than 250 workers and two-thirds of all companies with more than 250 workers offered health insurance of one kind or another.”

5. Unions Spearheaded The Fight For The Family And Medical Leave Act: Labor unions like the AFL-CIO federation led the fight for this 1993 law, which “requires state agencies and private employers with more than 50 employees to provide up to 12 weeks of job-protected unpaid leave annually for workers to care for a newborn, newly adopted child, seriously ill family member or for the worker’s own illness.”

I think the article posted by the OP pretty well dispelled that Liberal bullshit.

 

[The Rabbi]

Our economy needs some work. We don't have good capitalism. Companies are colluding to hold wages down. Non competes are legal in some states.

What we need are jobs that people with limited skills can hold down and have their piece of the "American Dream".

We don't have that anymore in this country thanks to Mr. Businessman and his never ending search for ever cheaper labor.
.

IOW free shit.
Why should people with limited skills get premium goods in return?
We never had that. And Mr Businessman has done a service by creating thousands of skilled high paying jobs that didnt exist a generation ago.

 

[The Rabbi]

Yup, labor unions have done nothing for America but eroded jobs and wages, raising them for select union workers but lowering them for everyone else. Capitalism is responsible for the high standard of living here. Socialism is responsible for its reverse. This is indisputable.
Does the 8-hour day and the 40-hour week come from Henry Ford, or labor unions?

you know every time I see your post I feel sorry for you ... how can one persion be so ignorant

I present information and you respond with insults. Which one of us is ignorant?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I've yet to meet a successful person who adhered to a strict 40 hour work-week or 8 hour work-day.

 

[billyerock1991]

Yup, labor unions have done nothing for America but eroded jobs and wages, raising them for select union workers but lowering them for everyone else. Capitalism is responsible for the high standard of living here. Socialism is responsible for its reverse. This is indisputable.
Does the 8-hour day and the 40-hour week come from Henry Ford, or labor unions?

you know every time I see your post I feel sorry for you ... how can one persion be so ignorant

I present information and you respond with insults. Which one of us is ignorant?

actually you didn't present any information, you post right wing rhetoric ... so to answer your question you're the ignorant one

P.S still waiting for what you say is harmful by unions are to our country is so far crickets

 

[billyerock1991]

I've yet to meet a successful person who adhered to a strict 40 hour work-week or 8 hour work-day.

really you want to go with that ???

 

[Brain357]

[Q


We need more laws so mr business man doesn't hurt our country. IT, CS, and Finance jobs should not be offshore. We need to tax those out if country services heavily.

No we don't need more laws. We have far too many already and that is the reason why so many of our business are going overseas.

It use to be where foreign businesses would come here but now our businesses are fleeing high taxation and a hostile business environment thaks to our oppressive big bloated Progressive government.

The economic entity in the world that has the most economic freedom and significant economic growth is Hong Kong with very few regulations. That should be our economic model rather than the Democratic Socialist Venezuela model that you Moon Bats crave so much.

We have seen the results of not enough laws. Jobs are flying out. CEOs are making record wages. Inequality is high and our economy is slow.

 

[billyerock1991]

[Q

If you think Hillary Clinton is no different than Donald Trump then vote for her.

I am not voting for either one because they are both big government liberals, which is terrible for our country.

However, you are a Moon Bat that can't help yourself but to vote for Crooked Hillary in November. You can't think for yourself so you will put a check by anybody that has a "D" by their name even if it is a dishonest corrupt lying incompetent bitch like Crooked Hillary.

We have a name for Moon Bats like you. Because you are low information and uneducated but yet believe everything the Democrats tell you we call you Gruberididots. The stupid Americans that always believe the Democrat horseshit, no matter how ridiculous it is.

give us one crooked thing she has done ... I realize you are told by your handlers she's crooked but when asked they just can't seem to come up with any crime she has done.. I'll wait for your brilliants to shine

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I've yet to meet a successful person who adhered to a strict 40 hour work-week or 8 hour work-day.

really you want to go with that ???

Absolutely.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

[Q

If you think Hillary Clinton is no different than Donald Trump then vote for her.

I am not voting for either one because they are both big government liberals, which is terrible for our country.

However, you are a Moon Bat that can't help yourself but to vote for Crooked Hillary in November. You can't think for yourself so you will put a check by anybody that has a "D" by their name even if it is a dishonest corrupt lying incompetent bitch like Crooked Hillary.

We have a name for Moon Bats like you. Because you are low information and uneducated but yet believe everything the Democrats tell you we call you Gruberididots. The stupid Americans that always believe the Democrat horseshit, no matter how ridiculous it is.

give us one crooked thing she has done ... I realize you are told by your handlers she's crooked but when asked they just can't seem to come up with any crime she has done.. I'll wait for your brilliants to shine

And we see your brilliants. The irony.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Yup, labor unions have done nothing for America but eroded jobs and wages, raising them for select union workers but lowering them for everyone else. Capitalism is responsible for the high standard of living here. Socialism is responsible for its reverse. This is indisputable.
Does the 8-hour day and the 40-hour week come from Henry Ford, or labor unions?

Yup, labor unions have done nothing for America but eroded jobs and wages, raising them for select union workers but lowering them for everyone else.

MmHmm.

 

[billyerock1991]

Our economy needs some work. We don't have good capitalism. Companies are colluding to hold wages down. Non competes are legal in some states.

What we need are jobs that people with limited skills can hold down and have their piece of the "American Dream".

We don't have that anymore in this country thanks to Mr. Businessman and his never ending search for ever cheaper labor.
.

IOW free shit.
Why should people with limited skills get premium goods in return?
We never had that. And Mr Businessman has done a service by creating thousands of skilled high paying jobs that didnt exist a generation ago.

as I said you keep proving to us how ignorant you are, what else can I say... where are these skilled high paying jobs that didnt exist a generation ago... oh I know mr. thinker rabbi, they're over seas.. are you telling us here that people with less skills can't answer the phone for companies here in the the US ??? that these companies have to go to India for helping them to answering the phone ... really mr. rocket Rabbi scientist

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yup, labor unions have done nothing for America but eroded jobs and wages, raising them for select union workers but lowering them for everyone else. Capitalism is responsible for the high standard of living here. Socialism is responsible for its reverse. This is indisputable.
Does the 8-hour day and the 40-hour week come from Henry Ford, or labor unions?

Yup, labor unions have done nothing for America but eroded jobs and wages, raising them for select union workers but lowering them for everyone else.

MmHmm.

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Cool.. now show us proof of causation.

This oughtta be good.

 

[billyerock1991]

[Q

If you think Hillary Clinton is no different than Donald Trump then vote for her.

I am not voting for either one because they are both big government liberals, which is terrible for our country.

However, you are a Moon Bat that can't help yourself but to vote for Crooked Hillary in November. You can't think for yourself so you will put a check by anybody that has a "D" by their name even if it is a dishonest corrupt lying incompetent bitch like Crooked Hillary.

We have a name for Moon Bats like you. Because you are low information and uneducated but yet believe everything the Democrats tell you we call you Gruberididots. The stupid Americans that always believe the Democrat horseshit, no matter how ridiculous it is.

give us one crooked thing she has done ... I realize you are told by your handlers she's crooked but when asked they just can't seem to come up with any crime she has done.. I'll wait for your brilliants to shine

And we see your brilliants. The irony.

and yet you couldn't show us one crooked thing she has done ... now who its the brilliant one (Hint) its not soggy in nola