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The pal-review non-doctorate written paper you refer doesn't actually criticize any of the fully three dimensional computer models.
Do you even know what you're talking about?
And again if the earth is a couple degrees warmer we'll all be just fine.
So go to bed now Chicken Little.
BULLSHIT!And yet observation has deviated from the models. There hasn't been any "warming" in over ten years.
FAIL.
BULLSHIT!And yet observation has deviated from the models. There hasn't been any "warming" in over ten years.
FAIL.
With no warming in ten years, somehow this last decade is the warmest in the history of direct instrument measurement.
Globe Continues Hottest Decade Ever ? News Watch
New data from scientists at NASA and the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) now indicate that 2012 capped the hottest decade on record for global temperatures.
You DIDN'T EVEN READ THE PAPER in the link - so you'll have to forgive me if I dismiss your opinion on it (that you actually just copied from someone else that you fail to source) as completely worthless.So tell me how one can reasonably expect a model to produce output that resembles reality when the program isn't modelling anything even close to reality.
Things that don't model reality don't model reality - excellent point! That one is not very obvious, glad you pointed it out! BTW, I just discovered that 1 = 1!
The fact remains that climate models are getting worse instead of better. Maybe because they are stuck in the 19th century.
A paper published today in Geophysical Research Letters finds that the latest climate models are performing even worse than the earlier generations of climate models in predicting
“…both the mean surface air temperature as well as the frequency of extreme monthly mean temperature events due to climate warming.”
The author hypothesizes the reasons for this are that attempts in the latest generation of models to reproduce observed changes in Arctic sea ice are causing “significant and widening discrepancy between the modeled and observed warming rates outside of the Arctic,” i.e. they have improved Arctic simulation at the expense of poorly simulating the rest of the globe. The paper adds to hundreds of other peer-reviewed papers demonstrating the abject failure of climate models.
Emerging selection bias in large-scale climate change simulations - Swanson - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
BULLSHIT!And yet observation has deviated from the models. There hasn't been any "warming" in over ten years.
FAIL.
With no warming in ten years, somehow this last decade is the warmest in the history of direct instrument measurement.
Globe Continues Hottest Decade Ever ? News Watch
New data from scientists at NASA and the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) now indicate that 2012 capped the hottest decade on record for global temperatures.
Although average worldwide temperatures in 2012 did not break records, the average global temperature last year was 58.3°F (14.6°C), more than a degree warmer than the historic baseline set in the 1950s. Since 1880, the average global temperature has increased 1.4°F (0.8°C), the new data showed. Taken all together, 2012 was the ninth warmest year in modern history.
You DIDN'T EVEN READ THE PAPER in the link - so you'll have to forgive me if I dismiss your opinion on it (that you actually just copied from someone else that you fail to source) as completely worthless.Things that don't model reality don't model reality - excellent point! That one is not very obvious, glad you pointed it out! BTW, I just discovered that 1 = 1!
The fact remains that climate models are getting worse instead of better. Maybe because they are stuck in the 19th century.
A paper published today in Geophysical Research Letters finds that the latest climate models are performing even worse than the earlier generations of climate models in predicting
both the mean surface air temperature as well as the frequency of extreme monthly mean temperature events due to climate warming.
The author hypothesizes the reasons for this are that attempts in the latest generation of models to reproduce observed changes in Arctic sea ice are causing significant and widening discrepancy between the modeled and observed warming rates outside of the Arctic, i.e. they have improved Arctic simulation at the expense of poorly simulating the rest of the globe. The paper adds to hundreds of other peer-reviewed papers demonstrating the abject failure of climate models.
Emerging selection bias in large-scale climate change simulations - Swanson - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
Here we show one danger of the use of such criteria in the construction of these simulations, namely the apparent emergence of a selection bias between generations of these simulations. Earlier generation ensembles of model simulations are shown to possess sufficient diversity to capture recent observed shifts in both the mean surface air temperature as well as the frequency of extreme monthly mean temperature events due to climate warming. However, current generation ensembles of model simulations are statistically inconsistent with these observed shifts, despite a marked reduction in the spread among ensemble members that by itself suggests convergence towards some common solution. This convergence indicates the possibility of a selection bias based upon warming rate.
New data from scientists at NASA and the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) now indicate that 2012 capped the hottest decade on record for global temperatures.
A perfect example of the absolute stupidity it takes to be a denier. You have to be too stupid to know the difference between a YEAR and a DECADE.BULLSHIT!And yet observation has deviated from the models. There hasn't been any "warming" in over ten years.
FAIL.
With no warming in ten years, somehow this last decade is the warmest in the history of direct instrument measurement.
Globe Continues Hottest Decade Ever ? News Watch
New data from scientists at NASA and the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) now indicate that 2012 capped the hottest decade on record for global temperatures.
BULLSHIT from you... Your link said the following right after your line above..
Now what was that nonsense all about? It set no records but somehow set records anyway? Ninth warmest year in modern history?Although average worldwide temperatures in 2012 did not break records, the average global temperature last year was 58.3°F (14.6°C), more than a degree warmer than the historic baseline set in the 1950s. Since 1880, the average global temperature has increased 1.4°F (0.8°C), the new data showed. Taken all together, 2012 was the ninth warmest year in modern history.
More spin media at work.. I'll tell ya what, you find how it is 2012 was the warmest ever when it was the ninth warmest ever..
The only thing altered is your reality. The CRN is not global and only has about one decade of data, and doesn't support anything you claim.New data from scientists at NASA and the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) now indicate that 2012 capped the hottest decade on record for global temperatures.
Newly altered records show that...reality is an entirely different thing...and the CRN temperature network...that's the state of the art gathering stations meticulously placed so as to not have any UHI bias dosn't show anything like what those altered records are showing.
And yet, scientists are baffled why the warming has paused for over a decade now. Can you say "conflict, junk science"? Probably not.
Seriously, you're a fucking high caliber moron, fella. I'm not sure you should even be in the discussion.
The only thing altered is your reality. The CRN is not global and only has about one decade of data, and doesn't support anything you claim.[/QUOTE]Newly altered records show that...reality is an entirely different thing...and the CRN temperature network...that's the state of the art gathering stations meticulously placed so as to not have any UHI bias dosn't show anything like what those altered records are showing.
How many too many?yuk......yuk......yuk.........
There are waaaaaaaaay too many variables that are conveniently ignored.
And what they've helped us to understand is that Co2 is the predominant cause of warming over most of the past century.The models simply help us to understand our atmosphere better but thats about it.......
You DIDN'T EVEN READ THE PAPER in the link - so you'll have to forgive me if I dismiss your opinion on it (that you actually just copied from someone else that you fail to source) as completely worthless.The fact remains that climate models are getting worse instead of better. Maybe because they are stuck in the 19th century.
Emerging selection bias in large-scale climate change simulations - Swanson - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
That's a pretty bold claim considering he cited the link. I think you didn't read the paper..
from the link he provided in the papers abstract...
Here we show one danger of the use of such criteria in the construction of these simulations, namely the apparent emergence of a selection bias between generations of these simulations. Earlier generation ensembles of model simulations are shown to possess sufficient diversity to capture recent observed shifts in both the mean surface air temperature as well as the frequency of extreme monthly mean temperature events due to climate warming. However, current generation ensembles of model simulations are statistically inconsistent with these observed shifts, despite a marked reduction in the spread among ensemble members that by itself suggests convergence towards some common solution. This convergence indicates the possibility of a selection bias based upon warming rate.
Seems it agrees with his brief completely. Next time try reading socko...
New data from scientists at NASA and the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) now indicate that 2012 capped the hottest decade on record for global temperatures.
Newly altered records show that...reality is an entirely different thing...and the CRN temperature network...that's the state of the art gathering stations meticulously placed so as to not have any UHI bias dosn't show anything like what those altered records are showing.
A perfect example of the absolute stupidity it takes to be a denier. You have to be too stupid to know the difference between a YEAR and a DECADE.BULLSHIT!
With no warming in ten years, somehow this last decade is the warmest in the history of direct instrument measurement.
Globe Continues Hottest Decade Ever ? News Watch
New data from scientists at NASA and the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) now indicate that 2012 capped the hottest decade on record for global temperatures.
BULLSHIT from you... Your link said the following right after your line above..
Now what was that nonsense all about? It set no records but somehow set records anyway? Ninth warmest year in modern history?Although average worldwide temperatures in 2012 did not break records, the average global temperature last year was 58.3°F (14.6°C), more than a degree warmer than the historic baseline set in the 1950s. Since 1880, the average global temperature has increased 1.4°F (0.8°C), the new data showed. Taken all together, 2012 was the ninth warmest year in modern history.
More spin media at work.. I'll tell ya what, you find how it is 2012 was the warmest ever when it was the ninth warmest ever..
