A Discussion About White Supremacy In The United States

[ptbw forever]

Two more Uncle Toms. Cain and Carson. You must be an Angry Black Man to get in the club. Kinda like the Black Panthers. I would say Crips and Bloods, but they kill each other so..they don't count.

Those 2 (Cain and Carson) are definitely shuck and jive coons.

Yet..look where they are...and look where you are. On a message board, crying. Just who is the shuck and jive coon? Look in the mirror.

I'm at the top of my field and own my own business. I did that without the shuck and jive routine Cain and Carson had to subject themselves to. Looks to me like I am in a way better place.

You are going to get sued to bankruptcy.

 

[Asclepias]

I know a lot about what passes for white culture. If its not mud wrestling pigs and Nascar what else is it that you havent stolen from other cultures?

"White culture" is an amalgamation of many subcultures, from Anglo-Saxon to Irish to Scottish to eastern European to Russian, plus the result of the blending that has been going on in America the last several hundred years. Apparently, the only thing you've been aware of is southern redneck stuff. You really need to broaden your horizons.

Those people you listed had no culture until the Moors gave them some.

Totally irrelevant. It's their culture. It literally happens all the time all around the world. Only the most backward of cultures refuse to embrace and absorb desirable parts from other cultures. In fact, it is the wise who use what has already been done if they like it.

No its not irrelevant. If someone gives you a culture then its really not yours. Culture is developed and belongs to the developers. Others are just participating in it.

Cultures appropriate facets of other cultures all the time. Only backward cultures refuse to do so.

True but that has nothing to do with the Moors coming to europe and giving you your culture. If they had not done that you would have turned back into cave men.

 

[Asclepias]

There's no white supremacy in the United States. If you put as much energy into cleaning up your own neighborhoods and rotting subculture as you do whining and finger pointing at others you'd make a lot of progress.

Here we go again. "There is no white supremacy in the US", says the Asian.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’

First arrivals at the Japanese evacuee community established in the Owens valley at Manzanar, California March 23, 1942. More than 800 were moved into the camps. AP Photo
By Brando Simeo Starkey @BrandoStarkey

“Go back to China!”

That ugly exclamation rattled the ears of editor Michael Luo who, with family and friends in tow, headed to get lunch at a nearby Korean restaurant on the Upper East Side streets of Manhattan last month. Luo wrote an open letter in the New York Times to the white woman who roared it, telling her how such verbal daggers sever Asian-Americans from their citizenship. “Maybe you don’t know this,” he penned, “but the insults you hurled at my family get to the heart of the Asian-American experience. It’s this persistent sense of otherness that a lot of us struggle with every day. That no matter what we do, how successful we are, what friends we make, we don’t belong. We’re foreign. We’re not American.”

Upon reading Luo’s open letter, my mind stewed on an uncomfortable truth about people like me who care deeply about racial justice — we often fail at positioning the grievances of Asian-Americans against white supremacy at the heart of the fight. We shower sympathy on black and brown people; Asian-Americans experience but a sprinkle. This begs for amelioration. We must understand that a national conversation about racism that ignores the plight of Asian-Americans carries an unforgivable omission.

Many consider the Asian-American story as bearing relatively few withering marks of traumatic racial struggle, partially explaining why their grievances attract scant attention. But that’s false.

Racist laws, stereotypes at work from the start
The Asian-American story began with Capt. George Menefie, who brought “Tony, an East Indian” into colonial Virginia in the early 1620s as a headright, meaning Menefie received 50 acres of land for importing Tony into the colony, which desperately needed laborers to keep England’s colonial experiment afloat. Indians continued to be brought into the New World. The Virginia Gazette, in July 1776, for example, recorded the escape of a “Servant Man named John Newton, about 20 Years of Age, 5 feet 5 or 6 Inches high, slender made, is an Asiatic Indian by Birth, has been about twelve Months in Virginia, but lived ten Years (as he says) in England, in the Service of Sir Charles Whitworth.”

Some, like Tony and John, were indentured servants, but other Indians were slaves. Thomas F. Brown and Leah C. Sims, historians, reported that “there was a significant contingent of ‘East Indian’ slaves in the colonial Chesapeake.” Just like the sons and daughters of Africa who worked the same land, the bodies of descendants of India were tools to enrich white lives. This land was not meant for them either.

Chinese workers, in 1849-50, began to immigrate to the U.S. mainland, fleeing wars and economic turmoil. They generally planned to labor for three to five years and return to China, seeking to earn money while taking advantage of the California gold rush, the alluring tales of riches having enchanted them into taking a long voyage to a foreign continent.

Vintage illustration of Chinese immigrants and gold miners in San Francisco in 1849, with a saloon, hotel, and general store; lithograph, 1926.

GraphicaArtis/Getty Images

White Californians’ initial welcoming of these new immigrants as industrious members of the community faded into racial resentment, particularly among lower-class whites, who saw them as labor competition. Blacks who ventured North during the Great Migration in the early 20th century met a similar fate, showing how anti-Asian discrimination often presaged discrimination against other people of color. The state of California then began codifying racism in law, a fact punctuated when, in 1854, the California Supreme Court ruled in People v. Hall that the testimony of a Chinese man who witnessed a murder was inadmissible against a white criminal defendant, chiefly because, per popular thought, the Chinese were “a race of people whom nature has marked as inferior, and who are incapable of progress or intellectual development beyond a certain point. …”

Cary Chow, a Chinese-American ESPN anchor, recently wrote about a bigoted television segment hosted by Jesse Watters of Fox News. Watters went to New York City’s Chinatown to conduct man-on-the-street-style interviews and trafficked in anti-Chinese stereotypes. He approached one Asian vendor and said, “I like these watches. Are they hot?” Chow contended that Watters felt comfortable in mocking his ethnic group because Watters likely believed Asians “would not fight back, because historically, Asians have not.”

Much historical data, though, supports the opposite conclusion. When the city of San Francisco passed ordinances to prevent Chinese immigrants from operating commercial laundries, an industry they dominated in the city, they resisted oppression. They sued the city. They took their case to the U.S. Supreme Court. And they seized victory with Yick Wo v. Hopkins in 1886. “Indeed between 1880 to 1900,” wrote Charles J. McClain in In Search of Equality: The Chinese Struggle against Discrimination in Nineteenth-Century America, “Chinese litigants carried some twenty appeals to the Supreme Court of the United States.” And way back in 1860, just a decade into their American journey, the Chinese community in San Anselmo, California, asked local white clergymen to hire a lobbyist to petition the state legislators to reject anti-Chinese bills under consideration. As McClain, a lecturer at University of California Berkeley Law School, found, “there is abundant evidence that the leaders of the nineteenth century Chinese community … were thoroughly familiar with American governmental institutions … and knew how to use those institutions to protect themselves. Far from being passive or docile in the face of official mistreatment, they reacted with indignation to it and more often than not sought redress in the courts.”

Black skin, in many ways, granted advantages over being of Asian descent. The Naturalization Act of 1870 granted perhaps the biggest such advantage. It extended naturalization rights to those of African ancestry, meaning foreign-born blacks, typically West Indians, could become naturalized citizens just like European whites. Asians, though, could not naturalize. The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, made anyone born in America citizens. Yet, for Asian immigrants like Bhagat Singh Thind, the naturalization act ignited anguish.

Thind, born in India, came to America when he was 24 years old, in 1913. He applied for citizenship and was granted it on the theory that Indians were not “Mongolians” but rather “Caucasians,” in other words, white, and thus eligible for naturalization. The Supreme Court, however, reversed that ruling, holding he was not white because most white Americans would never consider him a member of the white race. After the United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind decision in 1923, 64 other Indians who naturalized lost their American citizenship. Vaishno Das Bagai, one such man, killed himself, writing in his suicide note:

I came to America thinking, dreaming and hoping to make this land my home. Sold my properties and brought more than twenty-five thousand dollars (gold) to this country, established myself and tried my very best to give my children the best American education.

In year 1921 the Federal court at San Francisco accepted me as a naturalized citizen of the United States and issued to my name the final certificate, giving therein the name and description of my wife and three sons. In last 12 or 13 years we all made ourselves as much Americanized as possible.

But they now come to me and say, I am no longer an American citizen. They will not permit me to buy my home and, lo, they even shall not issue me a passport to go back to India. Now what am I? What have I made of myself and my children? We cannot exercise our rights, we cannot leave this country. Humility and insults, who is responsible for all this? Myself and American government.

I do not choose to live the life of an interned person; yes, I am in a free country and can move about where and when I wish inside the country. Is life worth living in a gilded cage? Obstacles this way, blockades that way, and the bridges burnt behind.

One must also never forget the anti-Japanese World War II-era Supreme Court cases, Hirabayashi v. United States and Korematsu v. United States, two hideous decisions that debased the Supreme Court as an institution. In the Hirabayashi case, the court upheld the constitutionality of a curfew provision requiring that people of Japanese ancestry be in their “place of residence daily between the hours of 8 p.m. to 6 a.m.” In the Korematsu case, the Supreme Court upheld the internment of folk of Japanese descent.

But some will maintain that this is all talk of the past, that this history says little about the present-day realities of Asian-Americans. They might note that in 1965 Congress rid racial discrimination from immigration and naturalization law. The convictions of Gordon Hirabayashi and Fred Korematsu, furthermore, were overturned in the 1980s and Japanese-Americans received reparations for internment around that same time. Racism barely scars the lives of Asian-Americans, these folk might insist, noting that America regards them as a so-called “model minority.”

The U.S. government provided hot meals for the first Japanese internees at the Santa Anita Race track reception center near Los Angeles on April 3, 1942.

AP Photo

In the 1960s, when articulated grievances against anti-black bigotry roiled throughout the American landscape, some leading white intellectuals, through the mainstream media, championed the idea that Asian-Americans constituted a model minority. The model minority myth holds that Asian-Americans are an incredibly successful group generally because of their personal responsibility and law-abiding behavior.

In 1966, the U.S. News & World Report, for instance, wrote, “At a time when Americans are awash in worry over the plight of racial minorities — one such minority, the nation’s 300,000 Chinese Americans, is winning wealth and respect by dint of its own hard work … Still being taught in Chinatown is the old idea that people should depend on their own efforts — not a welfare check—in order to reach America’s ‘promised land.’” The national press pumped out similar stories lauding Asian-Americans and indirectly scolding blacks, while scholarly work validating the model minority stereotype blanketed social science journals. Fifty years later, the model minority stereotype appears true both inside and outside the Asian-American population.

But the model minority stereotype is a myth that white supremacy devised partly to defend American society from the charges of racism leveled by black folk and those sympathetic to their complaints. A century before, Asians were defined as inferior, because doing so promoted the interests of whites. But in the 1960s, the claim suddenly became Asians even economically outpaced whites because of their exemplary attitude. Just as blacks achieved victories against segregation and racial discrimination, some whites trotted out the argument that another racial minority was flourishing without the help of government assistance, the implicit question being “why aren’t you?” The notion that one racial minority group was advancing by working hard, minding their own business, and not complaining about the system was a rhetorical tactic for those who sought to justify their inaction on civil rights.

The racial justice community often ignores the plight of Asian-Americans because their successful image is frequently thrown in black and brown faces to silence their cries for improved treatment. This isolates Asian-Americans from other minorities who otherwise would be allies in the battle against anti-Asian bigotry. White supremacy’s divide-and-conquer strategy has proven formidable.

The model minority myth, furthermore, convinces citizens and power holders that Asian-Americans harbor no real need for government assistance. “The portrayal of Asian Americans as successful,” Seattle University School of Law professor Robert S. Chang wrote, “permits the general public, government officials, and the judiciary to ignore or marginalize the contemporary needs of Asian Americans.”

We see, perhaps, the most harmful effects of this in educational contexts. Guofang Li, professor of Second Language and Literacy at Michigan State University, wrote that the model minority myth “misleads policy makers to overlook issues concerning Asian students and their needed services. Studies on instructional support for Asian English-as-a Second language students found that the model minority myth leads many to believe that Asian students will succeed with little support and without special programs and services. …” Li also noted that “the popular image of successful, high achieving ‘model minorities’ often prevents teachers and schools from recognizing the instructional needs and the psychological and emotional concerns of many underachieving Asian students.”

Active discrimination in the workplace
Besides this sort of neglect, Asian-Americans face active discrimination. Approximately 30 percent of Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders reported that they had endured discrimination in the workplace, the highest reporting percentage of any racial group. Blacks were second at 26 percent.

The primary reason for this employment discrimination is that Asian-Americans are often deemed unsuited for high-ranking management positions. Researchers at the University of Toronto, Jennifer L. Berdahl and Ji-A Min, found that employees of East Asian descent, generally Chinese, Japanese and Korean, were stereotyped as high in competence but low in warmth and dominance, perpetuating “the idea that East Asians are ideal as subordinate employees, suited for technical competence positions, but are unqualified to be leaders and managers.”

This — referred to as the “bamboo ceiling” — explains why college and advanced degrees hold less worth for Asian-Americans than for whites. As professor Chang noted, “Returns on education rather than educational level provide a [good] indicator of the existence of discrimination. Many Asian Americans have discovered that they, like other racial minorities, do not get the same return for their educational investment as do their white counterparts.”

By not studying how racism impairs Asian-American lives, we underestimate and miss crucial intelligence on how white privilege sabotages the hopes and dreams of people of color. The Asian-American story differs from the black story which differs the Latino story, but each, along with the Native American story, must be examined and mastered. Each, when pieced together, form a puzzle that we must assess in all its troubling detail. The story that starts with “Tony, an East Indian” lays bare the fearsomeness and complexity of white supremacy.

Morality and wisdom dictate that we no longer discount the pain of our Asian-American brothers and sisters.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

You see Asian, you want kiss the white mans ass but that's what they have always thought abut you. So is this:

Warner Oland was a Swedish-American actor most remembered for playing several Chinese and Chinese-American characters: the Honolulu Police detective, Lieutenant Charlie Chan; Dr. Fu Manchu; and Henry Chang in Shanghai Express.

A white man played Charlie Chan. No different than the black face white actors we had to endure. Don't lecture us on what we need to do. Fix your mind Asian and stop being a sellout, cause you ain't white. We're doing what we need to do. Maybe you need to join us.

With all that against them, why are Asians not whining and crying like the blacks? Harvard even says it has a disproportionate number of Asians qualifying for entrance into Harvard. Asians were mistreated many decades after blacks, yet they score highest in schools and owning businesses. How is that possible?

The only people who say we are whining and crying are dumb racist whites who have been the ones whining and crying since 1776.. Asians have filed the most racial discrimination suits in the past few years, more than blacks have. OBTW Blacks own over 2 million businesses. 'Asians' are not doing as well as you want to claim. Japanese might be, but they are not all Asians plus Japanese got reparations. Only the dumbest Asians fall for it and as a group of people hey reject the shit you have just said.

The Truth About “The Asian Advantage” and “Model Minority Myth”

By Sahra Vang Nguyen

There is no “Asian Advantage” — there are only skewed stats to purport the model minority myth and a divide within the racial justice movement.

Even while recent articles by Nicholas Kristof for New York Times and Jennifer Lee for CNN attempt to offer a nuanced argument for Asian-American success stories, their titles alone are problematic: “The Asian Advantage” and “The secret to Asian Americans’ Success” immediately generalize and frame Asian Americans as the model minority. Stop, we are not.

First off, when people say “Asian American,” please remember that this describes a massive conglomerate of 48 countries, with distinct cultural differences and political histories in the United States (from exploited railroad labor, to the brain drain, to war refugees). By nature, anything that describes “Asian America” will essentially be a broad generalization.

Perhaps the two most buzz worthy phrases in this conversation are “Asians are the fastest growing racial group in the country” and taken from Kristof’s article, “Asian Americans have higher educational attainment than any other group in the United States, including whites.“ Cue fear of the “Asian Invasion” and resentment towards Asians for being the alleged model minority.

In case people have forgotten how to understand statistics, the rates behind “fastest growing” and “higher educational attainment” are proportional to the Asian population in America, not to whites. That being said, Asian Americans make up 5.4 percent of the U.S., population, while whites make up 77.4 percent; that means there are 17.2 million Asian Americans and 246.8 million white people in the United States — so everyone worried about “Asians taking over” can calm down.

Why are Asian Americans considered the fastest growing racial group in America right now? It’s not because they’re reproducing more rapidly than other groups. No. (Especially since Asian men are generally emasculated in mainstream America). As Jennifer Lee suggests, the growth is largely attributed to immigration law “which favors highly educated, highly skilled immigrant applicants from Asian countries,” — to ultimately benefit capitalist interests and enhance America’s economy.

In 2012, India and China (the two largest Asian ethnic groups in the U.S.) made up 71.6 percent of America’s brain drain, which would skew statistics that generalize Asian Americans as economically and academically more successful. Included in the top ten countries of the U.S.’s brain drain are also the Philippines, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan — which, in addition to family-sponsored visas for unification, partially explains why Asians are the “fastest growing racial group in America.” This description essentially means that the 5.8 percent Asian American population is almost at 10 percent — but still dramatically less than the black population (13.2 percent), Latino population (17.4 percent) and white population (77.4 percent).

In addition to the brain drain, the United States offers special visa programs (EB-5) for wealthy individuals outside of the country: if people invest $500,000 or $1 million in American development projects, they receive green cards for themselves and their families. While there are 11.3 million undocumented people living in the U.S. with the threat of deportation and family separation, wealthy individuals can buy their way in. Already, 25 percent of Chinese individuals worth more than $16 million have emigrated, with the United States as their top choice.

So when people talk about the “Asian Advantage” like it’s a truth, they are inadvertently talking about the “white agenda.”

Why did I say “white agenda” and not just “capitalist agenda”? Because it’s the (white dominated) U.S. government that encourages migration of wealthy & skilled Asians into the country, while simultaneously positioning Asian Americans as a “threat” to others. In addition, white males dominate CEO seats of Fortune500 companies, white males dominate seats in Congress, white males dominate Hollywood director seats, white males dominate University presidential seats and white males dominate U.S. Presidential seats. I don’t even need to show you a bar graph to prove these correlations — just look around. Perhaps people should be talking about the “white advantage.”

This article is not to discredit the success or talent of Asian Americans, it is to completely dispel the idea of the “Asian Advantage” because it is an ineffective approach to understanding the community’s nuances. Just like in every other community, there are people who are ridiculously successful (Oprah, Jay-Z, etc.) and there are people who are still sleeping on the streets.

The overall poverty rate in the U.S. is 14.3 percent; relative to their unique populations, the poverty rate for whites is 11.6 percent and Asian Americans is 11.7 percent. Yet no one is talking about the fact that Asian Americans have a higher poverty rate than whites. Why not? Probably because it doesn’t fit their portrayal of Asians as the model minority. Average per capita income for whites is $31k, while for Asian Americans it’s $24k. Asians make up 12 percent of the undocumented population (that’s 1.3 million undocumented Asians), while whites make up a reported zero percent. But nobody wants to talk about the poverty, unemployment and immigration problems when it comes to the Asian American community, because to do so would accurately align us in the fight for racial justice and hurt the white supremacist agenda (which historically, thrives with divide and conquer tactics).



Here’s where everyone loves to sensationalize the model minority myth: 18.5 percent of whites have a bachelor’s degree (roughly 45.7 million people), while 30 percent of Asians have a bachelor’s degree (roughly 5.1 million people). But don’t forget everything I just described above about the brain drain; in addition, universities (especially public ones like the University of California, which have 40 percent Asian student population) are welcoming to wealthy international students who pay higher international tuition. Regardless, while 30 percent versus 18.5 percent may draw a scary picture that Asians are taking over university seats, the truth is white Americans still dominate college campuses dramatically in actual numbers.

Again, when people talk about the Asian American population and its “disproportionate level” of higher educational attainment, the two largest ethnic groups in this conglomerate are Chinese and Indian, the same two groups most targeted by the U.S. brain drain. A more nuanced approach would be to disaggregate the information, and recognize that only 17 percent of Pacific Islanders, 14 percent of Cambodians, 13 percent of Laotians and 13 percent of Hmong people have a bachelor’s degree in the United States. Marginalized communities within the Asian American umbrella become overlooked and underserved because of false notions such as the “Asian Advantage” and “model minority myth.”

In moving forward, my suggestion is to stop asking the wrong, misleading questions which paint a false picture of the Asian American community. If we want to better understand the diverse and complex Asian American community, we need to start asking better, more informed questions, such as, “How can we provide a solution for the 1.3 million undocumented Asian people in the U.S. to live safely with their families? How can we increase college access and retention rates for Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders? How can we better represent the the Asian American community through disaggregated data and locating non-identifying Asians whom struggle with language and cultural barriers? How can we better understand and support mental health issues within the Asian American community, also known for having the highest depression and suicide rates in the U.S.?”

How can we recognize when the narrative, regardless of whatever claimed attempt to be nuanced or liberal, is actually forwarding a white supremacist agenda over everything else? When white liberals pat Asians on the back and say “Good job at being the model minority,” who does that ultimately serve? Asian Americans have long been involved in the fight for racial justice, from demanding reparations for the Japanese Internment camps, to fighting for Ethnic Studies in San Francisco, to leading the Third World Liberation Front, and to marching alongside the Black Panther Party. The fight for racial justice must continue with more Asian Americans speaking their truths, rather than allow others to co-opt our narratives.

I celebrate the success, resilience, brilliance and hard work ethic of the Asian American community, while acknowledging that we have a long way to go before racial justice is achieved for ourselves and everyone else. So let’s continue doing what we’ve always done — working hard and knocking down walls.

The Truth About "The Asian Advantage" and "Model Minority Myth" | HuffPost

Average SAT, ACT and IQ Studies by demographic group. All adjusted to 100 for Whites for the purpose of comparison.

Looks like its true. Asians and Whites cheat on their tests way more than other races.

The Perfect Score: Cheating on the SAT

SAT Integrity Falls Victim to China Cheating Scandal

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Here's audio of reformed white supremacist Christian Picciolini discussing the rise of White Supremacy in America today...

The average American white racist | Crooked Media

The host is Ana Marie Cox on her podcast 'With Friends Like These'

I've listened to it twice previously, but listening to it again now, and probably will again. Once you've listened to it, let's continue the discussion and address the things they spoke about.

You sound like a Japanese soldiers recently plucked from the jungles of New Guinea who believes WWII is still raging. We just had a black guy, one born in Kenya no less, as President.

Wake up

 

[Meathead]

Here's audio of reformed white supremacist Christian Picciolini discussing the rise of White Supremacy in America today...

The average American white racist | Crooked Media

The host is Ana Marie Cox on her podcast 'With Friends Like These'

I've listened to it twice previously, but listening to it again now, and probably will again. Once you've listened to it, let's continue the discussion and address the things they spoke about.

Black failure is a world-wide phenomenon. Start there.

 

[MarcATL]

You sound like a Japanese soldiers recently plucked from the jungles of New Guinea who believes WWII is still raging. We just had a black guy, one born in Kenya no less, as President.

Wake up

LoL!!!

Tell me, good sir, what does that mean in your estimation?

 

[MarcATL]

Yes, we, AMERICANS should lie and pretend your backward, primitive, stone age culture in Africa is equal to what we created in 100 years. Don't want to hurt da widdo feewings of those benefiting from us, who are really not part of us.

 

[MarcATL]

Yet he has the MALCOM X avatar and hasn't a clue on the real history of Malcom X, MLK . lots if history left out dumbing down American couldn't have more meaning to it when one isn't a clueless fk lol.

But he can't figure out why BLM came out of the wood work, they can't figure out how Trayvon Martin was used to kick all of this racial divide off. It's where the MSM was PROVEN TO USE Psychological WARFARE by pushing a little boy picture of Trayvon, and as the hours went by and people awake began to dig, oh low and behold the " REAL TRAYVON" , then they used what's his name who did it was being a " WHITE MEXICAN" . ........... do we see how the MSM manipulates people and how masses can be done at one time....... ?????????

These gawd dam democratic morons can't see anything even when it's right in front of them.

Big Malcolm X fan are you....?

Trayvon *cough* Martin *cough* vs. *cough* George *cough* Zimmerman

 

[MarcATL]

And you don't think that Richard Spencer would love to be linked to more mainstream conservatives and libertarians?


Hell, they are constantly trying to attach themselves to something more, to inflate their importance.

The podcast interviewee discusses this very thing in depth.

You should have a listen.

 

[MarcATL]

And you don't think that Richard Spencer would love to be linked to more mainstream conservatives and libertarians?


Hell, they are constantly trying to attach themselves to something more, to inflate their importance.

The interviewee on this podcast actually goes into depth covering this very thing.

You should have a listen.

 

[MarcATL]

The repeated attempts to fake relevance by lying about who they are, or who they speak for, plus knowledge of how small and pathetic they really are......Has Spence thanked you personally for supporting his vile lies? If not, he should.

People like you, are the only ones giving them any air at all.

Really? People like him?

Are people like Asclepias booking him, filling out venues across the nation to listen to him, paying his exuberant salary?

Why do people like you have to lie about these things Correll ?

 

[Correll]

And you don't think that Richard Spencer would love to be linked to more mainstream conservatives and libertarians?


Hell, they are constantly trying to attach themselves to something more, to inflate their importance.

The podcast interviewee discusses this very thing in depth.

You should have a listen.

I've heard plenty on this subject from sources with far more credibility.


My point stands.



Richard Spencer would love to be linked to more mainstream conservatives and libertarians.


White Supremacists are constantly trying to attach themselves to something more, to inflate their importance.


Because by themselves they are obviously a tiny, tiny fringe of no relevance.

 

[Correll]

The repeated attempts to fake relevance by lying about who they are, or who they speak for, plus knowledge of how small and pathetic they really are......Has Spence thanked you personally for supporting his vile lies? If not, he should.

People like you, are the only ones giving them any air at all.

Really? People like him?

Are people like Asclepias booking him, filling out stadiums across the nation to listen to him, paying his exuberant salary?

Why do people like you have to lie about these things Correll ?

Link to filling a stadium.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You sound like a Japanese soldiers recently plucked from the jungles of New Guinea who believes WWII is still raging. We just had a black guy, one born in Kenya no less, as President.

Wake up

LoL!!!

Tell me, good sir, what does that mean in your estimation?

It means you still think you're living in the democrat Party run deep south and haven't realized its 2018

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yet he has the MALCOM X avatar and hasn't a clue on the real history of Malcom X, MLK . lots if history left out dumbing down American couldn't have more meaning to it when one isn't a clueless fk lol.

But he can't figure out why BLM came out of the wood work, they can't figure out how Trayvon Martin was used to kick all of this racial divide off. It's where the MSM was PROVEN TO USE Psychological WARFARE by pushing a little boy picture of Trayvon, and as the hours went by and people awake began to dig, oh low and behold the " REAL TRAYVON" , then they used what's his name who did it was being a " WHITE MEXICAN" . ........... do we see how the MSM manipulates people and how masses can be done at one time....... ?????????

These gawd dam democratic morons can't see anything even when it's right in front of them.

Big Malcolm X fan are you....?

Trayvon *cough* Martin *cough* vs. *cough* George *cough* Zimmerman

"We won't organize any black man to be a Democrat or a Republican because both of them have sold us out. Both of them have sold us out; both parties have sold us out. Both parties are racist, and the Democratic Party is more racist than the Republican Party." -Malcolm X cough cough

 

[MarcATL]

Asians have never been at the bottom of the social ladder here in the US. Blacks have always occupied that position besides like I said Asians were not subjected to the centuries of slavery, loss of family, religion, and language like Blacks were.

Are you speaking about me personally or Blacks in general? If you are talking about me then dont worry. There is a reason I have achieved more success than you. I outworked whites and crushed every obstacle they placed in my way.

Oh no that's just why they put Asians in concentration like camps right here in the US.[/QUOTE]Say budddy, what exactly went on in these US Asian concentration camps you speak of? I'm curious to know.

 

[MarcATL]

Did an Asian here talk about a rotting subculture and how blacks don't want to work?

The 'model minority' myth: Why Asian-American poverty goes unseen

Asian and black poverty rates are similar.

The federal government has been calculating the official poverty rate in the same way since the 1960s. As the country and economy have grown, experts say the methodology has not been adjusted to reflect a different standard of living for all Americans. While the Census Bureau does offer a supplemental poverty index, some experts have also developed their own ways to measure poverty.

New York is the only major city to create its own poverty standard measure, which accounts for factors like the cost of housing and whether residents receive non-cash public assistance, like tax credits for lower-income people. They found that, in New York, the Asian population had the highest poverty rate out of all groups in the city at 25.9% in 2013, though the Hispanic population was not far behind at 25.8%.

In Wisconsin and California, independent researchers have also developed their own ways to measure poverty in their states.

According to the revised poverty measure used by researchers in California, the Asian-American poverty rate was 18.4%, in contrast with the federal level of 16% for the state. That brought the Asian population’s poverty rate more in line with the black poverty rate, which under the revised measure stood at 20.8%.

Asians live in public housing.

It’s hard not to see the reality of these numbers when one visits New York's Chinatown, where old, dilapidated buildings are crammed together.

As the real estate market brings more development to the area, Chinatown residents who live in rent-controlled apartments can face a challenge from their landlords who want to sell to a more upmarket crowd. For young Chinese-Americans who live there now, some can face an unstable home life because of threats from a landlord or building conditions, or having to take on adult responsibilities by translating for their parents.

These can all be reasons why upward mobility doesn’t work out, said Wai Yee Poon, an organizer with CAAAV, an organization based in Chinatown that advocates for tenants’ rights.

Yet, the myth still persists.

Those who work with low-income Asian populations say that people outside the community sometimes find their work surprising.

Shahana Hanif, a public housing organizer also with CAAAV, said people often “overlook” who lives in public housing.

Hanif works with Asian-Americans in public housing. Many have limited English proficiency and need help getting proper access to public services.

Rad it all.

The 'model minority' myth: Why Asian-American poverty goes unseen

A myth is a made up story.

The Growing Poverty Crisis That Everyone Is Ignoring

This mainstream idea that Asian Americans are a prosperous monolithic group, however, is dangerously homogenizing, warned Professor Karthick Ramakrishnan, Professor and Associate Dean at the School of Public Policy, UC Riverside, and founder of AAPI Data. “Most of the discourse is about high-achievement and how successful Asians are,” he said, “There is an element of truth to those statements but people often stop there…[which] can mask the wide variation in the community.” The reality is that Asian American poverty is actually growing, and there are Asian American subgroups who are astoundingly poor.

The trend of rendering Asian American poverty invisible occurs everywhere. From 2007–2011, in the wake of the Great Recession, a U.S. Census report appeared to show that Asians have one of the lowest national poverty rates of any race, comparable to if not even lower than whites. By contrast, according to the Census, the highest national poverty rates were for Blacks or African Americans (25.8 percent) and American Indians and Alaska Natives (27 percent).

But according to a report co-authored by Ramakrishnan and Farah Z. Ahmed for the Center for American Progress last year, Asian Americans are actually one of the fastest-growing populations in poverty since the Great Recession. During that same Census reporting period from 2007–2011 Ramakrishnan and Ahmed showed the number of Asian Americans living in poverty rose by 37 percent — well surpassing the U.S. national increase of 27 percent. And according to the White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, certain Southeast Asian groups rank among the nation’s poorest: 29.3 percent of Cambodians and 37.8 percent of Hmong live in poverty.

The Growing Poverty Crisis That Everyone Is Ignoring

A myth is a made up story.

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[MarcATL]

The right is too stupid to realize that it needs all the allies it can get. There is no reason why the right wouldn’t ally with the alt-right when they have already allied with much of the non-white left who mistakenly call themselves black conservatives(Ben Carson for example).

The left has allied itself with not only the entire left side of the spectrum when it comes to white people, but with the black and brown alt-right(like Asclepias and MarcATL and IM2 and Paul Essen etc).

It is ridiculous and stupid for the mainstream right to shun the alt-right for fear of racism when more the half of the Democratic Party is now comprised of racists.

What I love most about his post and posts like these, which are in abundance here on USMB, is that they go unchallenged by those on the right. You know, the legion of self-proclaimed Republicans, conservatives, and other assorted rightwingers, who seem to POUNCE on any real or perceived (which is pretty much 100% perception) posts of those on the left pointing out racism, as racist.

It doesn't take rocket science to figure out why that is.

Gotta love it.

 

[MarathonMike]

I do not understand the obsession of hunting for the few remaining White Racists in America and making a big deal out of them. Institutional Racism in America is gone and has been replaced by Racial favoritism for Black people. You will always be able to find individuals who hate other people because they are not like them. Your quest is futile.

 

[ptbw forever]

The right is too stupid to realize that it needs all the allies it can get. There is no reason why the right wouldn’t ally with the alt-right when they have already allied with much of the non-white left who mistakenly call themselves black conservatives(Ben Carson for example).

The left has allied itself with not only the entire left side of the spectrum when it comes to white people, but with the black and brown alt-right(like Asclepias and MarcATL and IM2 and Paul Essen etc).

It is ridiculous and stupid for the mainstream right to shun the alt-right for fear of racism when more the half of the Democratic Party is now comprised of racists.

What I love most about his post and posts like these, which are in abundance here on USMB, is that they go unchallenged by those on the right. You know, self-proclaimed Republicans, conservatives, and other assorted rightwingers.

It doesn't take rocket science to figure out why that is.

Gotta love it.

Meanwhile you and your buddies are doing irreparable damage to the Democrats and their faux "progressive" reputation.

You literally think that advocating for racial parity in the political arena is "racism" that is going to hurt the right who have had the moral high ground over the "progressive" party for decades.

Priceless.