A dose of truth:

[protectionist]

Nonsense. The terror bombing on Germany´s and Japan´s civilians had no effect on the war but only unified the people and bolstered propaganda. In fact, the Technische Nothilfe (Technical Relief) recovered broken railways and main streets within hours.

In Gaza, targeting civilians did not defeat Hamas so far and never will. You can burn the soil but the mole doesn´t care.

Before long, Hamas will be a sickening memory, if Palestine has to be bombed back to the stone age. Likewise, Hamas' right arm in the US, CAIR, will be exterminated like the cockroaches that they are. When things really heat up, PC and ass-kissing will morph into survival war., even if it takes a military coup. As for Germany Japan, they could have been exterminated 100% nad cease ti exist as well.

 

[protectionist]

The Israel regime is not better than Hamas. For someone who wrote this " The correct solution is 100% obliteration of everything Islamic"
I rest my case. I'm sure you think the Palestinians should be left defenseless with nothing but slingshots.

Ridiculous post. There's no comparison. Hamas is part of the overall international jihad. Lunatic Muslims, deranged with Islamic Koranic ideology. I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the Palestinians. If anyone enough to be made into human shields, it's them. They voted for Hamas. You ask for disease. You get it.

 

[Phoenall]

Like these do you mean

Misfired Hamas rockets killed children in Gaza The Times

Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

How many people have died from Gaza rockets into Israel Mondoweiss

You want a death toll "competition"?

It seems that you do as you asked for proof that hamas missiles are fired to kill civilians. when it is given you find fault

The issue here is that civilian casualties were not automatically inducted intentionally.
However, Hamas does of course seek civilian casualties but who bombs a dense populated city like Gaza, does as well.

I don't think so when they take every precaution to minimise the collateral damage by sending text messages, phone calls, TV/radio announcements and leaflet drops. The people wanting the civilian casualties from their side is hamas as every one is a propaganda piece, so they refuse to allow them to move out of harms way. Stop letting Jew hatred cloud your thought processes, and start looking at the cold hard facts

Another stupid accuse. There are measures to announce strikes but a whole city cannot be vacated in minutes. You are just too biased to discuss this.

But it is not minutes is it, most of the time it is hours and even days. But you being the one that is biased refuses to see the truth of the situation and take the one recorded instance of a 5 minute warning to be the norm

 

[Bleipriester]

You want a death toll "competition"?

It seems that you do as you asked for proof that hamas missiles are fired to kill civilians. when it is given you find fault

The issue here is that civilian casualties were not automatically inducted intentionally.
However, Hamas does of course seek civilian casualties but who bombs a dense populated city like Gaza, does as well.

I don't think so when they take every precaution to minimise the collateral damage by sending text messages, phone calls, TV/radio announcements and leaflet drops. The people wanting the civilian casualties from their side is hamas as every one is a propaganda piece, so they refuse to allow them to move out of harms way. Stop letting Jew hatred cloud your thought processes, and start looking at the cold hard facts

Another stupid accuse. There are measures to announce strikes but a whole city cannot be vacated in minutes. You are just too biased to discuss this.

But it is not minutes is it, most of the time it is hours and even days. But you being the one that is biased refuses to see the truth of the situation and take the one recorded instance of a 5 minute warning to be the norm

That´s all not acceptable. The civilians pay the price and that´s why Israel´s measures are wrong.

 

[Phoenall]

It seems that you do as you asked for proof that hamas missiles are fired to kill civilians. when it is given you find fault

The issue here is that civilian casualties were not automatically inducted intentionally.
However, Hamas does of course seek civilian casualties but who bombs a dense populated city like Gaza, does as well.

I don't think so when they take every precaution to minimise the collateral damage by sending text messages, phone calls, TV/radio announcements and leaflet drops. The people wanting the civilian casualties from their side is hamas as every one is a propaganda piece, so they refuse to allow them to move out of harms way. Stop letting Jew hatred cloud your thought processes, and start looking at the cold hard facts

Another stupid accuse. There are measures to announce strikes but a whole city cannot be vacated in minutes. You are just too biased to discuss this.

But it is not minutes is it, most of the time it is hours and even days. But you being the one that is biased refuses to see the truth of the situation and take the one recorded instance of a 5 minute warning to be the norm

That´s all not acceptable. The civilians pay the price and that´s why Israel´s measures are wrong.

Then change International law to how you believe it should work. But remember when you do it has to work across all nations and creeds and not single out just one small group of people that you are fixated on and see all their actions as illegal. Does the civilians of Israel paying the price for the Palestinians terrorism and violence not mean anything to you at all ?

 

[Bleipriester]

Then change International law to how you believe it should work. But remember when you do it has to work across all nations and creeds and not single out just one small group of people that you are fixated on and see all their actions as illegal.

Israel´s interpretation of the international law cannot be applied on a whole, dense populated city.

Does the civilians of Israel paying the price for the Palestinians terrorism and violence not mean anything to you at all ?

That cannot be discussed in that framework and needs to be addressed in an explicit topic. The Israeli civilian victims are very few compared to Palestinian civilian victims and are victims of a terrorist group´s attacks. Proper counter measures must be applied. Israel´s measures are provoking more Hamas attacks and Israeli victims. As reasonable government it has to treat Hamas like a crying child, not to betake to its level.
Armed settlers are not civilians but illegally domiciled combatants.

 

[peach174]

A lot of support comes from jews themselves and Evangelicals. Also any politician support for Israel is due to the fact being anti Israel is political suicide.

Its not so much people are pro Israel is they believe all the anti muslim propaganda put out by Fox news and Israel.

Or they believe the videos put out by ISIS of all those beheading's and burning and drownings.

 

[Penelope]

A lot of support comes from jews themselves and Evangelicals. Also any politician support for Israel is due to the fact being anti Israel is political suicide.

Its not so much people are pro Israel is they believe all the anti muslim propaganda put out by Fox news and Israel.

Or they believe the videos put out by ISIS of all those beheading's and burning and drownings.

I don't believe them, what they believe is up to them.

 

[Phoenall]

Then change International law to how you believe it should work. But remember when you do it has to work across all nations and creeds and not single out just one small group of people that you are fixated on and see all their actions as illegal.

Israel´s interpretation of the international law cannot be applied on a whole, dense populated city.

Does the civilians of Israel paying the price for the Palestinians terrorism and violence not mean anything to you at all ?

That cannot be discussed in that framework and needs to be addressed in an explicit topic. The Israeli civilian victims are very few compared to Palestinian civilian victims and are victims of a terrorist group´s attacks. Proper counter measures must be applied. Israel´s measures are provoking more Hamas attacks and Israeli victims. As reasonable government it has to treat Hamas like a crying child, not to betake to its level.
Armed settlers are not civilians but illegally domiciled combatants.

It is not Israel's interpretation at all, it is the interpretation of the law itself. So if the law says you must give 24 hours notice minimum, and Israel gives 48 hours to 72 hours then that is exceeding the terms by a factor of 2 to 3. It is you and the Palestinians that are trying to interpret international law to show that Israel is in breach of that law. NICE TRY WONT FLY

So Palestinian paying a heavy price is allowed to be discussed bit when it comes to the price the Israeli's pay then it is of the agenda. Rather a racist POV and agenda you have there singling out one side for your sympathies.

Numbers do not enter into the equation as the Palestinian would not have any victims if they did not support, condone and defend violence and terrorism. Israel does nothing more than defend its civilians from attacks and they don't provoke hamas at all. Just read the hamas charter and see what it says about constant war, violence and the destrution of Israel and you will see that it is hamas at fault all the way.

 

[Phoenall]

A lot of support comes from jews themselves and Evangelicals. Also any politician support for Israel is due to the fact being anti Israel is political suicide.

Its not so much people are pro Israel is they believe all the anti muslim propaganda put out by Fox news and Israel.

Or they believe the videos put out by ISIS of all those beheading's and burning and drownings.

I don't believe them, what they believe is up to them.

Just as what you believe is up to you, but remember that up to now you have chose the losing side.

 

[peach174]

A lot of support comes from jews themselves and Evangelicals. Also any politician support for Israel is due to the fact being anti Israel is political suicide.

Its not so much people are pro Israel is they believe all the anti muslim propaganda put out by Fox news and Israel.

Or they believe the videos put out by ISIS of all those beheading's and burning and drownings.

I don't believe them, what they believe is up to them.

You think that ISIS is staging them?

 

[Penelope]

A lot of support comes from jews themselves and Evangelicals. Also any politician support for Israel is due to the fact being anti Israel is political suicide.

Its not so much people are pro Israel is they believe all the anti muslim propaganda put out by Fox news and Israel.

Or they believe the videos put out by ISIS of all those beheading's and burning and drownings.

I don't believe them, what they believe is up to them.

You think that ISIS is staging them?

I think they are staged, for the most part yes. (not saying who is staging them as that is hard to prove)

 

[peach174]

A lot of support comes from jews themselves and Evangelicals. Also any politician support for Israel is due to the fact being anti Israel is political suicide.

Its not so much people are pro Israel is they believe all the anti muslim propaganda put out by Fox news and Israel.

Or they believe the videos put out by ISIS of all those beheading's and burning and drownings.

I don't believe them, what they believe is up to them.

You think that ISIS is staging them?

I think they are staged, for the most part yes. (not saying who is staging them as that is hard to prove)

The videos come from the actual ISIS web sites.

 

[Bleipriester]

It is not Israel's interpretation at all, it is the interpretation of the law itself. So if the law says you must give 24 hours notice minimum, and Israel gives 48 hours to 72 hours then that is exceeding the terms by a factor of 2 to 3. It is you and the Palestinians that are trying to interpret international law to show that Israel is in breach of that law. NICE TRY WONT FLY

It isn´t. You can tell me what you want, bombing civilians is under no circumstances complying with the law.

So Palestinian paying a heavy price is allowed to be discussed bit when it comes to the price the Israeli's pay then it is of the agenda. Rather a racist POV and agenda you have there singling out one side for your sympathies.

You don´t want to understand it. Having own casualties doesn´t justify to bomb civilians. There is no agenda or anything. Don´t use terror as justification for terror unless you are a terror group. Terror is by no means a legal tool to fight terrorism. If those buildings were occupied by Hamas and if there would be no or few civilians that know their risk when living with the terrorist group, it would be different. But Israel hits Gaza and other locations during normal everyday life.

Numbers do not enter into the equation as the Palestinian would not have any victims if they did not support, condone and defend violence and terrorism. Israel does nothing more than defend its civilians from attacks and they don't provoke hamas at all. Just read the hamas charter and see what it says about constant war, violence and the destrution of Israel and you will see that it is hamas at fault all the way.

Bombing civilians is not a proper measure to defend civilians. Furthermore, you have to watch the situation more neutral. Palestine has no Uncle Sam, who is supplying and funding the army and protecting the country from UN resolutions. Fighting this losing battle, Palestine offers the best conditions for extremist groups to thrive.

Israel and its shrill supporters claim that Israel has a right to exist. OK. Those who insist on Israel´s right to exist, deny any right of the Palestinians to have their nation as well. As long as these double moral standards are the foundation pillar of the West´s and Israel´s Palestine agenda, the conflict will go on.

 

[peach174]

Iran needs that extra billions in order to help fund Hamas, Hezbollah and the Taliban.
Iran wants the Shiite's to win the control of the Caliphate rather than ISIS who are Sunni.

 

[protectionist]

. I ask you: If an IDF missile intentionally killing civilians is a good thing, what can be wrong about a Hamas missile doing the same?

IDF missles don't intentionally kill civilians. The Israelis have careful (too much IMO) to avoid harming civilians. No jihadist cares about killing civilians. To them, there are no innocent civilians.

 

[montelatici]

. I ask you: If an IDF missile intentionally killing civilians is a good thing, what can be wrong about a Hamas missile doing the same?

IDF missles don't intentionally kill civilians. The Israelis have careful (too much IMO) to avoid harming civilians. No jihadist cares about killing civilians. To them, there are no innocent civilians.

Do you really believe that when the IDF bombs a residential apartment building or school they are not targeting civilians?

No Safe Place Full Report In English Gaza Health Attack Physicians for Human Rights - Israel The Findings of an Independent Medical Fact-Finding Misson Report

 

[toastman]

. I ask you: If an IDF missile intentionally killing civilians is a good thing, what can be wrong about a Hamas missile doing the same?

IDF missles don't intentionally kill civilians. The Israelis have careful (too much IMO) to avoid harming civilians. No jihadist cares about killing civilians. To them, there are no innocent civilians.

Do you really believe that when the IDF bombs a residential apartment building or school they are not targeting civilians?

No Safe Place Full Report In English Gaza Health Attack Physicians for Human Rights - Israel The Findings of an Independent Medical Fact-Finding Misson Report

How do you know they target civilians? Do you know where Hamas keeps their weapons? Where they live?

 

[theliq]

It is not Israel's interpretation at all, it is the interpretation of the law itself. So if the law says you must give 24 hours notice minimum, and Israel gives 48 hours to 72 hours then that is exceeding the terms by a factor of 2 to 3. It is you and the Palestinians that are trying to interpret international law to show that Israel is in breach of that law. NICE TRY WONT FLY

It isn´t. You can tell me what you want, bombing civilians is under no circumstances complying with the law.

So Palestinian paying a heavy price is allowed to be discussed bit when it comes to the price the Israeli's pay then it is of the agenda. Rather a racist POV and agenda you have there singling out one side for your sympathies.

You don´t want to understand it. Having own casualties doesn´t justify to bomb civilians. There is no agenda or anything. Don´t use terror as justification for terror unless you are a terror group. Terror is by no means a legal tool to fight terrorism. If those buildings were occupied by Hamas and if there would be no or few civilians that know their risk when living with the terrorist group, it would be different. But Israel hits Gaza and other locations during normal everyday life.

Numbers do not enter into the equation as the Palestinian would not have any victims if they did not support, condone and defend violence and terrorism. Israel does nothing more than defend its civilians from attacks and they don't provoke hamas at all. Just read the hamas charter and see what it says about constant war, violence and the destrution of Israel and you will see that it is hamas at fault all the way.

Bombing civilians is not a proper measure to defend civilians. Furthermore, you have to watch the situation more neutral. Palestine has no Uncle Sam, who is supplying and funding the army and protecting the country from UN resolutions. Fighting this losing battle, Palestine offers the best conditions for extremist groups to thrive.

Israel and its shrill supporters claim that Israel has a right to exist. OK. Those who insist on Israel´s right to exist, deny any right of the Palestinians to have their nation as well. As long as these double moral standards are the foundation pillar of the West´s and Israel´s Palestine agenda, the conflict will go on.

Excellent Post "Blei" steve

 

[theliq]

. I ask you: If an IDF missile intentionally killing civilians is a good thing, what can be wrong about a Hamas missile doing the same?

IDF missles don't intentionally kill civilians. The Israelis have careful (too much IMO) to avoid harming civilians. No jihadist cares about killing civilians. To them, there are no innocent civilians.

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