A Friend Under IRS Attack

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Turns out, I have more than a passing interest in the IRS scandal, in which Tea Party, pro-life groups, and even those merely interested in studying the Constitution were targeted by the Obama IRS....

A short time ago, I enrolled my children in a debate club at Columbia University. It was not hosted by Columbia, but at Columbia. The author of the book used for source material is Shane Krauser, Director of the American Academy for Constitutional Education. He was a speaker at the event.

His organization has as its mission statement: "The American Academy for Constitutional Education is committed to educating people about the uniqueness and power contained in the United States Constitution."
http://aafce.com/about-us





You might be interested in his experience with the IRS:

1. "The Academy filed for tax-exempt status in November 2011. Ten months later, in September 2012, the IRS sent us a letter of inquiry. They wanted comprehensive information about my work with Glenn Beck at the Restoring Love event held in Texas in July 2012, and they wanted to know more about the “Constitution Cruises” we anticipated putting on with the Carnival Cruise Line.

2. The Academy also has a website, which outlines courses about constitutional restoration. The IRS requested samples of course material, information about the fees we charge seminar attendees and explanations for those fees. They also asked for the full content of any courses I put together as the Academy’s director.

3. The IRS requested a fee schedule for all of my speaking engagements, copies of all speaking agreements I signed and an explanation for how my book, “Your Nation to Save,” which is advertised on the website, contributes to the overall mission of the Academy.

4. .... we cooperated. By October 2012, we had responded to all of the IRS’s requests. We reached out to the IRS numerous times since then, with no response — until a few days ago, after the IRS scandal broke, when the agency let us know that a decision on our tax status would be made shortly.

5. .... organizations whose missions revolve around patriotism, the U.S. Constitution and promoting an educational defense of a free society shouldn’t be discriminated against by the government.
My 'patriotic' organization's experience with the IRS | The Daily Caller






And, related to the above:

6. "Of all the discouraging news in the scandal involving President Obama’s Internal Revenue Service, the most illuminating is that one of the things that triggered additional scrutiny from the IRS for groups applying for tax-exempt status was any plan for “educating on the constitution and bill of rights.”


7. .... IRS officials, and their bosses, right up to and including the president, were genuinely afraid of what Americans might find out if they did actually have a careful look at the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The most potentially devastating development would be if people read the First Amendment. That says “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech…or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and the petition the government for the redress of grievances.”


8. It’s pretty plain: “Congress shall make no law...” The First Amendment doesn’t say “Congress shall make no law so long as you apply to the IRS and register under section 501(c)4 of the Internal Revenue Code, but if your ‘major purpose’ under the Federal Election Commission’s regulation is politics, you have to register with the FEC and disclose your donors, and if you are a lobbyist, you have to register and disclose your clients.”


9. The rest of the document is pretty clear, too. The powers of the Congress and of the President are enumerated. Nowhere among those enumerated powers is the power to demand that individuals disclose their donors, their plans to run for elective office, or their social media posts as a condition of exercising their rights to speech, assembly or petition. On the contrary, the Ninth Amendment makes clear that “the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”


10. .... if people read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, they might realize that the entire elaborate regulatory apparatus that politicians and bureaucrats have erected to limit these rights of speech, assembly, and petition rests on constitutional ice that is thin-to-nonexistent." IRS Was Afraid of the Constitution, the Obama Scandal Suggests - The New York Sun

"... apparatus that politicians and bureaucrats have erected to limit these rights of speech,..."




First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

– Pastor Martin Niemöller



They've come for the educators

Welcome to Obama nation.......
 
I certainly join with every citizen who is fearful that the IRS will be used as a bludgeon by those in power for their own partisanship agendas.

No matter who the victim is, that distortion of the IRS's mission is a threat to all of us.

So the questions are: Is it being done?; by whom?; and for what purpose?

Another question immediately comes to mind even more chilling!

WHO can investigate such a charge who is not ALSO a partisan?

The terrifying answer to the second question is that there is NOBODY with the authority to investigate these kinds of question who is not ALSO a political partisan

That sad fact is truly one of the flaws of representation democracies
 
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"The Academy filed for tax-exempt status in November 2011. Ten months later, in September 2012, the IRS sent us a letter of inquiry. They wanted comprehensive information about my work with Glenn Beck at the Restoring Love event held in Texas in July 2012, and they wanted to know more about the “Constitution Cruises” we anticipated putting on with the Carnival Cruise Line.

No wonder they were investigated! Glenn Beck is a loyal American the same way North Korea is a Democratic Republic.
 
This type of behavior reminds me of several instances where a group of people realized that they were in a position of power and they proceded to abuse it. From PTAs to Home Owner's Associations. It doesn't surprise me that the abuse occured but I do wonder why this behavior wasn't looked into years ago. We need names and investigations. Congressmen have heard these complaints before--where the hell are they ?
 
"The Academy filed for tax-exempt status in November 2011. Ten months later, in September 2012, the IRS sent us a letter of inquiry. They wanted comprehensive information about my work with Glenn Beck at the Restoring Love event held in Texas in July 2012, and they wanted to know more about the “Constitution Cruises” we anticipated putting on with the Carnival Cruise Line.

No wonder they were investigated! Glenn Beck is a loyal American the same way North Korea is a Democratic Republic.

You have no problem with the IRS making the determination of who is a loyal American or not ? Party over country ? No wonder IRS can get away with this shit.
 
Not party over country. Ideology over country. The country is what democrats want to destroy, and replace it with a new ideologically driven country.
 
It's subversive to the Former Constitutional Law Instructor-Community Organizer's agenda for anyone to teach the actual meaning of The Constitution.
 
"The Academy filed for tax-exempt status in November 2011. Ten months later, in September 2012, the IRS sent us a letter of inquiry. They wanted comprehensive information about my work with Glenn Beck at the Restoring Love event held in Texas in July 2012, and they wanted to know more about the “Constitution Cruises” we anticipated putting on with the Carnival Cruise Line.

No wonder they were investigated! Glenn Beck is a loyal American the same way North Korea is a Democratic Republic.

As is so often found on a Chinese restaurant menu....choose either a) or b)

a) Provide your argument as to what makes Glenn Beck less than a loyal American

or

b) Accept the label of "Lying Smear Merchant."
...and, yes...we can have that monogrammed for you.
 
It's subversive to the Former Constitutional Law Instructor-Community Organizer's agenda for anyone to teach the actual meaning of The Constitution.
The SPLC agrees:
SPLC Letter to DOJ & DHS | Southern Poverty Law Center

Excellent example of the Leftist-Big Government cabal seeking more ways to restrict freedom and liberty....

For the letter: "The resources devoted to countering domestic hate and radical antigovernment groups and those they may inspire do not appear commensurate with the threat."

Unfortunately, in comparison to the Chicago thug community organizer, the brown shirts of the SPLC were way behind....the letter was March 2013.




Obama got the IRS scam going long before, three years earlier:



"March 31, 2010.

According to the White House Visitors Log, provided here in searchable form by U.S. News and World Report, the president of the anti-Tea Party National Treasury Employees Union, [IRS staffers] Colleen Kelley, visited the White House at 12:30pm that Wednesday noon time of March 31st.

The White House lists the IRS union leader’s visit this way:
Kelley, Colleen Potus 03/31/2010 12:30
In White House language, “POTUS” stands for “President of the United States.”





The very next day after her White House meeting with the President, according to the Treasury Department’s Inspector General’s Report, IRS employees — the same employees who belong to the NTEU — set to work in earnest targeting the Tea Party and conservative groups around America.


The IG report wrote it up this way:
April 1-2, 2010: The new Acting Manager, Technical Unit, suggested the need for a Sensitive Case Report on the Tea Party cases. The Determinations Unit Program Manager Agreed.





In short: the very day after the president of the quite publicly anti-Tea Party labor union — the union for IRS employees — met with President Obama, the manager of the IRS “Determinations Unit Program agreed” to open a “Sensitive Case report on the Tea party cases.” As stated by the IG report."
The American Spectator : Obama and the IRS: The Smoking Gun?


He sure didn't want the Tea Party to have the same effect they had in the 2010 midterms, did he.
 
What are you claiming is inappropriate?

uh---Hello ? Are you just waking up from you dreams of delusional denial ? You might wanna see what it is that people are bitching about before you tell them that there is nothing to bitch about.

If you can't articulate what is inappropriate in the example given then 'bitching' is the appropriate word for what's being done.
 
Let me attempt to guess what the 'bitch' is.

You want to be exempted from paying taxes based on a certain activity,

but you want to be able to keep the activity itself private.


...uh, sorry, you can't have both. The IRS can't give you a tax break for something you do unless you tell them what exactly it is that you do.
 
This type of behavior reminds me of several instances where a group of people realized that they were in a position of power and they proceded to abuse it. From PTAs to Home Owner's Associations. It doesn't surprise me that the abuse occured but I do wonder why this behavior wasn't looked into years ago. We need names and investigations. Congressmen have heard these complaints before--where the hell are they ?

In a lecture by former Senator James Buckley, he addressed the same point, and suggested a solution:

Abusive over-regulation is the reason is the creation of more and more bureaus and agencies endowed with ever broader responsibilities and discretion in defining the rules that govern our activities and our lives. And these rules have the full force of law!

Congress has increased the number of rules whose infractions are criminalized, waiving the common law requirement that one knows he is breaking the law. Today, one can be jailed for violating a regulation that one had no reason to know even existed!

a. While the officials in these agencies are generally good people, they become focused on their particular portfolio of duties, that, often, they cannot see the consequences on other parts of society. Put this together with human nature, and one can see bullying, and misuse of power, especially when these individuals are immune to penalty, and supported by free and extensive legal representation: they have sovereign immunity in their positions.


b. A remedy would be the ability of citizens to sue the federal government to protect their legitimate interests, for damages. While currently unconstitutional, the Congress can waive sovereign immunity,

c. Such a congressional waiver would not only protect the citizenry, but would go far toward defining the limits of federal authority.


d. While not unconstitutional, regulation may be considered extra-constitutional. There may be some point where it is considered to be an unconstitutional delegation of legislative authority to an agency or bureau. Under Obamacare, or Dodd-Frank Reform we see legislation where regulators have not yet determined what the regulation should be…how can Congress allow a law without knowing what the impact will be?
 
"The Academy filed for tax-exempt status in November 2011. Ten months later, in September 2012, the IRS sent us a letter of inquiry. They wanted comprehensive information about my work with Glenn Beck at the Restoring Love event held in Texas in July 2012, and they wanted to know more about the “Constitution Cruises” we anticipated putting on with the Carnival Cruise Line.

No wonder they were investigated! Glenn Beck is a loyal American the same way North Korea is a Democratic Republic.
^ that. I got no further than Beck & had a belly laugh :rofl:
"The Academy filed for tax-exempt status in November 2011. Ten months later, in September 2012, the IRS sent us a letter of inquiry. They wanted comprehensive information about my work with Glenn Beck at the Restoring Love event held in Texas in July 2012, and they wanted to know more about the “Constitution Cruises” we anticipated putting on with the Carnival Cruise Line.

No wonder they were investigated! Glenn Beck is a loyal American the same way North Korea is a Democratic Republic.

As is so often found on a Chinese restaurant menu....choose either a) or b)

a) Provide your argument as to what makes Glenn Beck less than a loyal American

or

b) Accept the label of "Lying Smear Merchant."
...and, yes...we can have that monogrammed for you.

Chinese restaraunt menu? :eusa_hand: Racist! I thought you were Asian :confused:
 
What are you claiming is inappropriate?

uh---Hello ? Are you just waking up from you dreams of delusional denial ? You might wanna see what it is that people are bitching about before you tell them that there is nothing to bitch about.

If you can't articulate what is inappropriate in the example given then 'bitching' is the appropriate word for what's being done.

It is not appropriate for the IRS to be involved in determinations of what is, or is not, proper ideology, proper speech, or proper teaching.

It is not appropriate for the IRS to delay, hinder, or harass any organization whose opinions or actions are contrary to the opinions or actions of the political party in power.
 

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