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A great example of why socialism is better than "charity"

There is no dignity in begging for handouts. Dignity comes from being part of a society where people work for the common good. I realise that is anathema to conservatives who would inflict their Victorian values on the rest of us.

I think a big problem here is that you don't understand what dignity actually is. You seem to think it means "feeling good about yourself and never having to feel uncomfortable about anything." It doesn't.

And I strongly challenge your notion that sending the government to take other people's money and give it to you so that you never have to face them yourself or, God forbid, feel ashamed or grateful, is not at all being a part of society, and certainly does not make you one of the people working for any good at all. It makes you a leech, sucking off the lifeforce of those who are working and weighing them down. You SHOULDN'T feel any sense of dignity or comfort with yourself under those circumstances.

I realize any sort of values that actually involve becoming better people is anathema to leftists, who would inflict their greed and self-centeredness on the rest of us. Your half-assed, mistaken notions of charity are exactly the cause of most - if not all - of what is wrong with the world today.

Only 39% of Americans have enough savings to cover a $1,000 emergency

61% of Americans are $1001 from losing their dignity

That's not the problem of the rest of us that can cover it nor does it make it our responsibility because those 61% didn't prepare.
Class warfare has been waged on the middle class. The gap between the rich and poor has widened because of it.

Maybe we the people need to unionize and vote for liberals. Then we would make the poor your problem.

Are you saying the poor are in the middle class? Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't become one group's responsibility because the other didn't prepare.

You claim to care about the poor yet, as a Liberal, demand others do something about helping them. So typical. But you claimed to care as claiming is all a Liberal needs to do to feel good about him/herself.

Actually you have that ass backwards. You don't like government helping the poor because it doesn't make you feel good. You want to pull out your purse and decide how many shillings you give to the poor. You don't want our government to take care because you have no control over it.

I don't demand. If we as a society don't want to give food stamps I'm ok with that. Then maybe more poor women will get abortions. Lower the population. Always a good thing. Less humans sucking up all the oxygen and natural resources

Humanity Has Officially Consumed More Than Earth Can Produce This Year
 
I think a big problem here is that you don't understand what dignity actually is. You seem to think it means "feeling good about yourself and never having to feel uncomfortable about anything." It doesn't.

And I strongly challenge your notion that sending the government to take other people's money and give it to you so that you never have to face them yourself or, God forbid, feel ashamed or grateful, is not at all being a part of society, and certainly does not make you one of the people working for any good at all. It makes you a leech, sucking off the lifeforce of those who are working and weighing them down. You SHOULDN'T feel any sense of dignity or comfort with yourself under those circumstances.

I realize any sort of values that actually involve becoming better people is anathema to leftists, who would inflict their greed and self-centeredness on the rest of us. Your half-assed, mistaken notions of charity are exactly the cause of most - if not all - of what is wrong with the world today.

Only 39% of Americans have enough savings to cover a $1,000 emergency

61% of Americans are $1001 from losing their dignity

That's not the problem of the rest of us that can cover it nor does it make it our responsibility because those 61% didn't prepare.
Class warfare has been waged on the middle class. The gap between the rich and poor has widened because of it.

Maybe we the people need to unionize and vote for liberals. Then we would make the poor your problem.

Are you saying the poor are in the middle class? Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't become one group's responsibility because the other didn't prepare.

You claim to care about the poor yet, as a Liberal, demand others do something about helping them. So typical. But you claimed to care as claiming is all a Liberal needs to do to feel good about him/herself.

Actually you have that ass backwards. You don't like government helping the poor because it doesn't make you feel good. You want to pull out your purse and decide how many shillings you give to the poor. You don't want our government to take care because you have no control over it.

I don't demand. If we as a society don't want to give food stamps I'm ok with that. Then maybe more poor women will get abortions. Lower the population. Always a good thing. Less humans sucking up all the oxygen and natural resources

Humanity Has Officially Consumed More Than Earth Can Produce This Year

It isn't the government doing the helping. Perhaps you're not aware that the ONLY way the government has money is to take it from the productive in society.

When it comes to helping people, it should be the one giving do the deciding. You like the government doing it because it gives you a chance to claim compassion because others are forced to pay.

Hopefully more abortions will be botched. Always a good thing.
 
political jargon for the Cold War.

No it is pre cold war and post cold war accuracy
it is obsolete now that the Cold War is over. inaccurate information is worthless.
No it was always accurate and still is.
in right wing fantasy, You are Always right.
It is simple English and neither right nor left.

It proves you wrong.
i gainsay your contention; want to argue about it?
 
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Simply using the Other Peoples's money is socialism.
 

That's not the problem of the rest of us that can cover it nor does it make it our responsibility because those 61% didn't prepare.
Class warfare has been waged on the middle class. The gap between the rich and poor has widened because of it.

Maybe we the people need to unionize and vote for liberals. Then we would make the poor your problem.

Are you saying the poor are in the middle class? Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't become one group's responsibility because the other didn't prepare.

You claim to care about the poor yet, as a Liberal, demand others do something about helping them. So typical. But you claimed to care as claiming is all a Liberal needs to do to feel good about him/herself.

Actually you have that ass backwards. You don't like government helping the poor because it doesn't make you feel good. You want to pull out your purse and decide how many shillings you give to the poor. You don't want our government to take care because you have no control over it.

I don't demand. If we as a society don't want to give food stamps I'm ok with that. Then maybe more poor women will get abortions. Lower the population. Always a good thing. Less humans sucking up all the oxygen and natural resources

Humanity Has Officially Consumed More Than Earth Can Produce This Year

It isn't the government doing the helping. Perhaps you're not aware that the ONLY way the government has money is to take it from the productive in society.

When it comes to helping people, it should be the one giving do the deciding. You like the government doing it because it gives you a chance to claim compassion because others are forced to pay.

Hopefully more abortions will be botched. Always a good thing.

Yes, I like our government doing it so I don't have to. Like my Republican buddy who owns his own business and has Republican insurance. In other words it doesn't cover shit and it's really expensive when you get sick. So he couldn't afford the costs to cure his wife of cancer so he had a fundraiser to come up with the co pays and deductables. How embarrassing. Go fund me! What is happening to our society?

A society like that sucks. Where your neighbors who didn't plan for emergencies or don't make enough have to come begging us for the money.

Yea, I'd rather a society that doesn't have to beg friends and family because the government takes care of these things.

What happens to a baby when the abortion is botched?
 
That's not the problem of the rest of us that can cover it nor does it make it our responsibility because those 61% didn't prepare.
Class warfare has been waged on the middle class. The gap between the rich and poor has widened because of it.

Maybe we the people need to unionize and vote for liberals. Then we would make the poor your problem.

Are you saying the poor are in the middle class? Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't become one group's responsibility because the other didn't prepare.

You claim to care about the poor yet, as a Liberal, demand others do something about helping them. So typical. But you claimed to care as claiming is all a Liberal needs to do to feel good about him/herself.

Actually you have that ass backwards. You don't like government helping the poor because it doesn't make you feel good. You want to pull out your purse and decide how many shillings you give to the poor. You don't want our government to take care because you have no control over it.

I don't demand. If we as a society don't want to give food stamps I'm ok with that. Then maybe more poor women will get abortions. Lower the population. Always a good thing. Less humans sucking up all the oxygen and natural resources

Humanity Has Officially Consumed More Than Earth Can Produce This Year

It isn't the government doing the helping. Perhaps you're not aware that the ONLY way the government has money is to take it from the productive in society.

When it comes to helping people, it should be the one giving do the deciding. You like the government doing it because it gives you a chance to claim compassion because others are forced to pay.

Hopefully more abortions will be botched. Always a good thing.

Yes, I like our government doing it so I don't have to. Like my Republican buddy who owns his own business and has Republican insurance. In other words it doesn't cover shit and it's really expensive when you get sick. So he couldn't afford the costs to cure his wife of cancer so he had a fundraiser to come up with the co pays and deductables. How embarrassing. Go fund me! What is happening to our society?

A society like that sucks. Where your neighbors who didn't plan for emergencies or don't make enough have to come begging us for the money.

Yea, I'd rather a society that doesn't have to beg friends and family because the government takes care of these things.

What happens to a baby when the abortion is botched?

What's embarrassing is that you're a lazy bastard that admits he doesn't want to do for himself.

A society like that doesn't suck. You're not obligated to donate a thing to them nor should you be required to do so because they didn't plan well.

The same thing that happens to the baby when it isn't botched. Botching an abortion results in the mother willing to kill her child getting the same result she thought was OK for that child.
 
Class warfare has been waged on the middle class. The gap between the rich and poor has widened because of it.

Maybe we the people need to unionize and vote for liberals. Then we would make the poor your problem.

Are you saying the poor are in the middle class? Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't become one group's responsibility because the other didn't prepare.

You claim to care about the poor yet, as a Liberal, demand others do something about helping them. So typical. But you claimed to care as claiming is all a Liberal needs to do to feel good about him/herself.

Actually you have that ass backwards. You don't like government helping the poor because it doesn't make you feel good. You want to pull out your purse and decide how many shillings you give to the poor. You don't want our government to take care because you have no control over it.

I don't demand. If we as a society don't want to give food stamps I'm ok with that. Then maybe more poor women will get abortions. Lower the population. Always a good thing. Less humans sucking up all the oxygen and natural resources

Humanity Has Officially Consumed More Than Earth Can Produce This Year

It isn't the government doing the helping. Perhaps you're not aware that the ONLY way the government has money is to take it from the productive in society.

When it comes to helping people, it should be the one giving do the deciding. You like the government doing it because it gives you a chance to claim compassion because others are forced to pay.

Hopefully more abortions will be botched. Always a good thing.

Yes, I like our government doing it so I don't have to. Like my Republican buddy who owns his own business and has Republican insurance. In other words it doesn't cover shit and it's really expensive when you get sick. So he couldn't afford the costs to cure his wife of cancer so he had a fundraiser to come up with the co pays and deductables. How embarrassing. Go fund me! What is happening to our society?

A society like that sucks. Where your neighbors who didn't plan for emergencies or don't make enough have to come begging us for the money.

Yea, I'd rather a society that doesn't have to beg friends and family because the government takes care of these things.

What happens to a baby when the abortion is botched?

What's embarrassing is that you're a lazy bastard that admits he doesn't want to do for himself.

A society like that doesn't suck. You're not obligated to donate a thing to them nor should you be required to do so because they didn't plan well.

The same thing that happens to the baby when it isn't botched. Botching an abortion results in the mother willing to kill her child getting the same result she thought was OK for that child.
Another great example of how you don't care for living people just seeds. Sick fuck.
 
Class warfare has been waged on the middle class. The gap between the rich and poor has widened because of it.

Maybe we the people need to unionize and vote for liberals. Then we would make the poor your problem.

Are you saying the poor are in the middle class? Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't become one group's responsibility because the other didn't prepare.

You claim to care about the poor yet, as a Liberal, demand others do something about helping them. So typical. But you claimed to care as claiming is all a Liberal needs to do to feel good about him/herself.

Actually you have that ass backwards. You don't like government helping the poor because it doesn't make you feel good. You want to pull out your purse and decide how many shillings you give to the poor. You don't want our government to take care because you have no control over it.

I don't demand. If we as a society don't want to give food stamps I'm ok with that. Then maybe more poor women will get abortions. Lower the population. Always a good thing. Less humans sucking up all the oxygen and natural resources

Humanity Has Officially Consumed More Than Earth Can Produce This Year

It isn't the government doing the helping. Perhaps you're not aware that the ONLY way the government has money is to take it from the productive in society.

When it comes to helping people, it should be the one giving do the deciding. You like the government doing it because it gives you a chance to claim compassion because others are forced to pay.

Hopefully more abortions will be botched. Always a good thing.

Yes, I like our government doing it so I don't have to. Like my Republican buddy who owns his own business and has Republican insurance. In other words it doesn't cover shit and it's really expensive when you get sick. So he couldn't afford the costs to cure his wife of cancer so he had a fundraiser to come up with the co pays and deductables. How embarrassing. Go fund me! What is happening to our society?

A society like that sucks. Where your neighbors who didn't plan for emergencies or don't make enough have to come begging us for the money.

Yea, I'd rather a society that doesn't have to beg friends and family because the government takes care of these things.

What happens to a baby when the abortion is botched?

What's embarrassing is that you're a lazy bastard that admits he doesn't want to do for himself.

A society like that doesn't suck. You're not obligated to donate a thing to them nor should you be required to do so because they didn't plan well.

The same thing that happens to the baby when it isn't botched. Botching an abortion results in the mother willing to kill her child getting the same result she thought was OK for that child.
He doesn't want to do for himself? He and his family are the poster children for Republicans. White, blue collar, small business owners, didn't go to college, know it alls, racists,

I wonder if he changed his tune about universal healthcare? I don't know because I didn't go to the fundraiser. He would have to call me and apologize for being stupid all those years arguing for Republican policies before I would chip in.

There. I had a choice. Let his wife die. Stupid Republicans who aren't rich enough to be republicans.
 
Are you saying the poor are in the middle class? Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't become one group's responsibility because the other didn't prepare.

You claim to care about the poor yet, as a Liberal, demand others do something about helping them. So typical. But you claimed to care as claiming is all a Liberal needs to do to feel good about him/herself.

Actually you have that ass backwards. You don't like government helping the poor because it doesn't make you feel good. You want to pull out your purse and decide how many shillings you give to the poor. You don't want our government to take care because you have no control over it.

I don't demand. If we as a society don't want to give food stamps I'm ok with that. Then maybe more poor women will get abortions. Lower the population. Always a good thing. Less humans sucking up all the oxygen and natural resources

Humanity Has Officially Consumed More Than Earth Can Produce This Year

It isn't the government doing the helping. Perhaps you're not aware that the ONLY way the government has money is to take it from the productive in society.

When it comes to helping people, it should be the one giving do the deciding. You like the government doing it because it gives you a chance to claim compassion because others are forced to pay.

Hopefully more abortions will be botched. Always a good thing.

Yes, I like our government doing it so I don't have to. Like my Republican buddy who owns his own business and has Republican insurance. In other words it doesn't cover shit and it's really expensive when you get sick. So he couldn't afford the costs to cure his wife of cancer so he had a fundraiser to come up with the co pays and deductables. How embarrassing. Go fund me! What is happening to our society?

A society like that sucks. Where your neighbors who didn't plan for emergencies or don't make enough have to come begging us for the money.

Yea, I'd rather a society that doesn't have to beg friends and family because the government takes care of these things.

What happens to a baby when the abortion is botched?

What's embarrassing is that you're a lazy bastard that admits he doesn't want to do for himself.

A society like that doesn't suck. You're not obligated to donate a thing to them nor should you be required to do so because they didn't plan well.

The same thing that happens to the baby when it isn't botched. Botching an abortion results in the mother willing to kill her child getting the same result she thought was OK for that child.
Another great example of how you don't care for living people just seeds. Sick fuck.

I don't care about her. Anyone that takes an action she knows can produce a result then kills the result because it's convenient has shown she's not deserving of care.
 
Are you saying the poor are in the middle class? Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't become one group's responsibility because the other didn't prepare.

You claim to care about the poor yet, as a Liberal, demand others do something about helping them. So typical. But you claimed to care as claiming is all a Liberal needs to do to feel good about him/herself.

Actually you have that ass backwards. You don't like government helping the poor because it doesn't make you feel good. You want to pull out your purse and decide how many shillings you give to the poor. You don't want our government to take care because you have no control over it.

I don't demand. If we as a society don't want to give food stamps I'm ok with that. Then maybe more poor women will get abortions. Lower the population. Always a good thing. Less humans sucking up all the oxygen and natural resources

Humanity Has Officially Consumed More Than Earth Can Produce This Year

It isn't the government doing the helping. Perhaps you're not aware that the ONLY way the government has money is to take it from the productive in society.

When it comes to helping people, it should be the one giving do the deciding. You like the government doing it because it gives you a chance to claim compassion because others are forced to pay.

Hopefully more abortions will be botched. Always a good thing.

Yes, I like our government doing it so I don't have to. Like my Republican buddy who owns his own business and has Republican insurance. In other words it doesn't cover shit and it's really expensive when you get sick. So he couldn't afford the costs to cure his wife of cancer so he had a fundraiser to come up with the co pays and deductables. How embarrassing. Go fund me! What is happening to our society?

A society like that sucks. Where your neighbors who didn't plan for emergencies or don't make enough have to come begging us for the money.

Yea, I'd rather a society that doesn't have to beg friends and family because the government takes care of these things.

What happens to a baby when the abortion is botched?

What's embarrassing is that you're a lazy bastard that admits he doesn't want to do for himself.

A society like that doesn't suck. You're not obligated to donate a thing to them nor should you be required to do so because they didn't plan well.

The same thing that happens to the baby when it isn't botched. Botching an abortion results in the mother willing to kill her child getting the same result she thought was OK for that child.
He doesn't want to do for himself? He and his family are the poster children for Republicans. White, blue collar, small business owners, didn't go to college, know it alls, racists,

I wonder if he changed his tune about universal healthcare? I don't know because I didn't go to the fundraiser. He would have to call me and apologize for being stupid all those years arguing for Republican policies before I would chip in.

There. I had a choice. Let his wife die. Stupid Republicans who aren't rich enough to be republicans.

I question your claim about him being Republican. Do you have proof or did you make it up to present a false narrative?

Whether you chip in or not is YOUR choice and should be YOUR choice. It's not the government's place to force people who choose not to chip in where you feel it's necessary.

Interesting how you want a choice but support others being forced to fund things you think should be funded. Hypocrite.
 
Actually you have that ass backwards. You don't like government helping the poor because it doesn't make you feel good. You want to pull out your purse and decide how many shillings you give to the poor. You don't want our government to take care because you have no control over it.

I don't demand. If we as a society don't want to give food stamps I'm ok with that. Then maybe more poor women will get abortions. Lower the population. Always a good thing. Less humans sucking up all the oxygen and natural resources

Humanity Has Officially Consumed More Than Earth Can Produce This Year

It isn't the government doing the helping. Perhaps you're not aware that the ONLY way the government has money is to take it from the productive in society.

When it comes to helping people, it should be the one giving do the deciding. You like the government doing it because it gives you a chance to claim compassion because others are forced to pay.

Hopefully more abortions will be botched. Always a good thing.

Yes, I like our government doing it so I don't have to. Like my Republican buddy who owns his own business and has Republican insurance. In other words it doesn't cover shit and it's really expensive when you get sick. So he couldn't afford the costs to cure his wife of cancer so he had a fundraiser to come up with the co pays and deductables. How embarrassing. Go fund me! What is happening to our society?

A society like that sucks. Where your neighbors who didn't plan for emergencies or don't make enough have to come begging us for the money.

Yea, I'd rather a society that doesn't have to beg friends and family because the government takes care of these things.

What happens to a baby when the abortion is botched?

What's embarrassing is that you're a lazy bastard that admits he doesn't want to do for himself.

A society like that doesn't suck. You're not obligated to donate a thing to them nor should you be required to do so because they didn't plan well.

The same thing that happens to the baby when it isn't botched. Botching an abortion results in the mother willing to kill her child getting the same result she thought was OK for that child.
He doesn't want to do for himself? He and his family are the poster children for Republicans. White, blue collar, small business owners, didn't go to college, know it alls, racists,

I wonder if he changed his tune about universal healthcare? I don't know because I didn't go to the fundraiser. He would have to call me and apologize for being stupid all those years arguing for Republican policies before I would chip in.

There. I had a choice. Let his wife die. Stupid Republicans who aren't rich enough to be republicans.

I question your claim about him being Republican. Do you have proof or did you make it up to present a false narrative?

Whether you chip in or not is YOUR choice and should be YOUR choice. It's not the government's place to force people who choose not to chip in where you feel it's necessary.

Interesting how you want a choice but support others being forced to fund things you think should be funded. Hypocrite.
I'm not really a republican. They are either rich and selfish or poor and stupid.
 
It isn't the government doing the helping. Perhaps you're not aware that the ONLY way the government has money is to take it from the productive in society.

When it comes to helping people, it should be the one giving do the deciding. You like the government doing it because it gives you a chance to claim compassion because others are forced to pay.

Hopefully more abortions will be botched. Always a good thing.

Yes, I like our government doing it so I don't have to. Like my Republican buddy who owns his own business and has Republican insurance. In other words it doesn't cover shit and it's really expensive when you get sick. So he couldn't afford the costs to cure his wife of cancer so he had a fundraiser to come up with the co pays and deductables. How embarrassing. Go fund me! What is happening to our society?

A society like that sucks. Where your neighbors who didn't plan for emergencies or don't make enough have to come begging us for the money.

Yea, I'd rather a society that doesn't have to beg friends and family because the government takes care of these things.

What happens to a baby when the abortion is botched?

What's embarrassing is that you're a lazy bastard that admits he doesn't want to do for himself.

A society like that doesn't suck. You're not obligated to donate a thing to them nor should you be required to do so because they didn't plan well.

The same thing that happens to the baby when it isn't botched. Botching an abortion results in the mother willing to kill her child getting the same result she thought was OK for that child.
He doesn't want to do for himself? He and his family are the poster children for Republicans. White, blue collar, small business owners, didn't go to college, know it alls, racists,

I wonder if he changed his tune about universal healthcare? I don't know because I didn't go to the fundraiser. He would have to call me and apologize for being stupid all those years arguing for Republican policies before I would chip in.

There. I had a choice. Let his wife die. Stupid Republicans who aren't rich enough to be republicans.

I question your claim about him being Republican. Do you have proof or did you make it up to present a false narrative?

Whether you chip in or not is YOUR choice and should be YOUR choice. It's not the government's place to force people who choose not to chip in where you feel it's necessary.

Interesting how you want a choice but support others being forced to fund things you think should be funded. Hypocrite.
I'm not really a republican. They are either rich and selfish or poor and stupid.

You're a supporter of killing innocent life.

Wanting to keep more of what you earned isn't selfish. Stupid involves thinking someone owes you something because you aren't willing to earn it.
 
Socialism can solve simple poverty and manufacture a commune of Heaven on Earth.

Private charity can cover multitudes of sins.
 
Socialism can solve simple poverty and manufacture a commune of Heaven on Earth.

Private charity can cover multitudes of sins.

You mean like socialism has done in Venezuela, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union?
Ten simple Commandments from a God, not the Expense of the socialism of secular and temporal Government in even modern times.

Socialism requires social morals for free not capital morals for a market friendly price.
 
Socialism can solve simple poverty and manufacture a commune of Heaven on Earth.

Private charity can cover multitudes of sins.

You mean like socialism has done in Venezuela, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union?
Ten simple Commandments from a God, not the Expense of the socialism of secular and temporal Government in even modern times.

Socialism requires social morals for free not capital morals for a market friendly price.

Socialism has no morality associated with it.
 
Socialism can solve simple poverty and manufacture a commune of Heaven on Earth.

Private charity can cover multitudes of sins.

You mean like socialism has done in Venezuela, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union?
Ten simple Commandments from a God, not the Expense of the socialism of secular and temporal Government in even modern times.

Socialism requires social morals for free not capital morals for a market friendly price.

Socialism has no morality associated with it.
Here are the instructions for our Use of socialism:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
 
Socialism can solve simple poverty and manufacture a commune of Heaven on Earth.

Private charity can cover multitudes of sins.

You mean like socialism has done in Venezuela, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union?
Ten simple Commandments from a God, not the Expense of the socialism of secular and temporal Government in even modern times.

Socialism requires social morals for free not capital morals for a market friendly price.

Socialism has no morality associated with it.
Here are the instructions for our Use of socialism:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I don't see the word socialism there.
 

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