A great example of why socialism is better than "charity"

[danielpalos]

Socialism can solve simple poverty and manufacture a commune of Heaven on Earth.

Private charity can cover multitudes of sins.

You mean like socialism has done in Venezuela, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union?

Ten simple Commandments from a God, not the Expense of the socialism of secular and temporal Government in even modern times.

Socialism requires social morals for free not capital morals for a market friendly price.

Socialism has no morality associated with it.

Here are the instructions for our Use of socialism:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I don't see the word socialism there.

only the right wing, Never gets it. that Is socialism.

Only public sector means of production can accomplish them.

 

[Conservative65]

You mean like socialism has done in Venezuela, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union?

Ten simple Commandments from a God, not the Expense of the socialism of secular and temporal Government in even modern times.

Socialism requires social morals for free not capital morals for a market friendly price.

Socialism has no morality associated with it.

Here are the instructions for our Use of socialism:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I don't see the word socialism there.

only the right wing, Never gets it. that Is socialism.

Only public sector means of production can accomplish them.

That is your claim. Can you show me the word socialism in that text?

 

[sealybobo]

Yes, I like our government doing it so I don't have to. Like my Republican buddy who owns his own business and has Republican insurance. In other words it doesn't cover shit and it's really expensive when you get sick. So he couldn't afford the costs to cure his wife of cancer so he had a fundraiser to come up with the co pays and deductables. How embarrassing. Go fund me! What is happening to our society?

A society like that sucks. Where your neighbors who didn't plan for emergencies or don't make enough have to come begging us for the money.

Yea, I'd rather a society that doesn't have to beg friends and family because the government takes care of these things.

What happens to a baby when the abortion is botched?

What's embarrassing is that you're a lazy bastard that admits he doesn't want to do for himself.

A society like that doesn't suck. You're not obligated to donate a thing to them nor should you be required to do so because they didn't plan well.

The same thing that happens to the baby when it isn't botched. Botching an abortion results in the mother willing to kill her child getting the same result she thought was OK for that child.

He doesn't want to do for himself? He and his family are the poster children for Republicans. White, blue collar, small business owners, didn't go to college, know it alls, racists,

I wonder if he changed his tune about universal healthcare? I don't know because I didn't go to the fundraiser. He would have to call me and apologize for being stupid all those years arguing for Republican policies before I would chip in.

There. I had a choice. Let his wife die. Stupid Republicans who aren't rich enough to be republicans.

I question your claim about him being Republican. Do you have proof or did you make it up to present a false narrative?

Whether you chip in or not is YOUR choice and should be YOUR choice. It's not the government's place to force people who choose not to chip in where you feel it's necessary.

Interesting how you want a choice but support others being forced to fund things you think should be funded. Hypocrite.

I'm not really a republican. They are either rich and selfish or poor and stupid.

You're a supporter of killing innocent life.

Wanting to keep more of what you earned isn't selfish. Stupid involves thinking someone owes you something because you aren't willing to earn it.

That’s your greedy and or ignorant way of looking at it.

Our way worked better. New deal to Bill Clinton. You get from bush to now. How are the masses doing?

 

[Conservative65]

What's embarrassing is that you're a lazy bastard that admits he doesn't want to do for himself.

A society like that doesn't suck. You're not obligated to donate a thing to them nor should you be required to do so because they didn't plan well.

The same thing that happens to the baby when it isn't botched. Botching an abortion results in the mother willing to kill her child getting the same result she thought was OK for that child.

He doesn't want to do for himself? He and his family are the poster children for Republicans. White, blue collar, small business owners, didn't go to college, know it alls, racists,

I wonder if he changed his tune about universal healthcare? I don't know because I didn't go to the fundraiser. He would have to call me and apologize for being stupid all those years arguing for Republican policies before I would chip in.

There. I had a choice. Let his wife die. Stupid Republicans who aren't rich enough to be republicans.

I question your claim about him being Republican. Do you have proof or did you make it up to present a false narrative?

Whether you chip in or not is YOUR choice and should be YOUR choice. It's not the government's place to force people who choose not to chip in where you feel it's necessary.

Interesting how you want a choice but support others being forced to fund things you think should be funded. Hypocrite.

I'm not really a republican. They are either rich and selfish or poor and stupid.

You're a supporter of killing innocent life.

Wanting to keep more of what you earned isn't selfish. Stupid involves thinking someone owes you something because you aren't willing to earn it.

That’s your greedy and or ignorant way of looking at it.

Our way worked better. New deal to Bill Clinton. You get from bush to now. How are the masses doing?

The greedy way is thinking what someone else earned belongs to you.

I don't give a shit how you're doing. The only people I'm concerned with is me and my family. If you and yours go without, you should try harder and do better. You're not my concern nor should you be.

 

[danielpalos]

Ten simple Commandments from a God, not the Expense of the socialism of secular and temporal Government in even modern times.

Socialism requires social morals for free not capital morals for a market friendly price.

Socialism has no morality associated with it.

Here are the instructions for our Use of socialism:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I don't see the word socialism there.

only the right wing, Never gets it. that Is socialism.

Only public sector means of production can accomplish them.

That is your claim. Can you show me the word socialism in that text?

Public sector means of production accomplishing those social Goals, is socialism.

 

[Conservative65]

Socialism has no morality associated with it.

Here are the instructions for our Use of socialism:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I don't see the word socialism there.

only the right wing, Never gets it. that Is socialism.

Only public sector means of production can accomplish them.

That is your claim. Can you show me the word socialism in that text?

Public sector means of production accomplishing those social Goals, is socialism.

Still waiting on you to show where the term is.

 

[sealybobo]

He doesn't want to do for himself? He and his family are the poster children for Republicans. White, blue collar, small business owners, didn't go to college, know it alls, racists,

I wonder if he changed his tune about universal healthcare? I don't know because I didn't go to the fundraiser. He would have to call me and apologize for being stupid all those years arguing for Republican policies before I would chip in.

There. I had a choice. Let his wife die. Stupid Republicans who aren't rich enough to be republicans.

I question your claim about him being Republican. Do you have proof or did you make it up to present a false narrative?

Whether you chip in or not is YOUR choice and should be YOUR choice. It's not the government's place to force people who choose not to chip in where you feel it's necessary.

Interesting how you want a choice but support others being forced to fund things you think should be funded. Hypocrite.

I'm not really a republican. They are either rich and selfish or poor and stupid.

You're a supporter of killing innocent life.

Wanting to keep more of what you earned isn't selfish. Stupid involves thinking someone owes you something because you aren't willing to earn it.

That’s your greedy and or ignorant way of looking at it.

Our way worked better. New deal to Bill Clinton. You get from bush to now. How are the masses doing?

The greedy way is thinking what someone else earned belongs to you.

I don't give a shit how you're doing. The only people I'm concerned with is me and my family. If you and yours go without, you should try harder and do better. You're not my concern nor should you be.

If that’s the way republicans make then people will do worse as the rich do better.

See? You are responsible for the growing gap between the rich and rest of us. A flat tax is fair but doesn’t work. Not as good as our unfair progressive tax.

Progressive tax is what voters should be voting for.

Unless they’re successful like us

 

[danielpalos]

Here are the instructions for our Use of socialism:

I don't see the word socialism there.

only the right wing, Never gets it. that Is socialism.

Only public sector means of production can accomplish them.

That is your claim. Can you show me the word socialism in that text?

Public sector means of production accomplishing those social Goals, is socialism.

Still waiting on you to show where the term is.

To provide for the general welfare not the general warfare as Any form of public sector command economics and means of production.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No it is pre cold war and post cold war accuracy

it is obsolete now that the Cold War is over. inaccurate information is worthless.

No it was always accurate and still is.

in right wing fantasy, You are Always right.

It is simple English and neither right nor left.

It proves you wrong.

i gainsay your contention; want to argue about it?

Already did and you lost the argument.

 

[danielpalos]

it is obsolete now that the Cold War is over. inaccurate information is worthless.

No it was always accurate and still is.

in right wing fantasy, You are Always right.

It is simple English and neither right nor left.

It proves you wrong.

i gainsay your contention; want to argue about it?

Already did and you lost the argument.

in right wing fantasy, you Always win.

We have a Constitution that expresses the general welfare not the general warfare.

 

[Conservative65]

I question your claim about him being Republican. Do you have proof or did you make it up to present a false narrative?

Whether you chip in or not is YOUR choice and should be YOUR choice. It's not the government's place to force people who choose not to chip in where you feel it's necessary.

Interesting how you want a choice but support others being forced to fund things you think should be funded. Hypocrite.

I'm not really a republican. They are either rich and selfish or poor and stupid.

You're a supporter of killing innocent life.

Wanting to keep more of what you earned isn't selfish. Stupid involves thinking someone owes you something because you aren't willing to earn it.

That’s your greedy and or ignorant way of looking at it.

Our way worked better. New deal to Bill Clinton. You get from bush to now. How are the masses doing?

The greedy way is thinking what someone else earned belongs to you.

I don't give a shit how you're doing. The only people I'm concerned with is me and my family. If you and yours go without, you should try harder and do better. You're not my concern nor should you be.

If that’s the way republicans make then people will do worse as the rich do better.

See? You are responsible for the growing gap between the rich and rest of us. A flat tax is fair but doesn’t work. Not as good as our unfair progressive tax.

Progressive tax is what voters should be voting for.

Unless they’re successful like us

Again, I don't care if you do worse. That's your problem, not mine.

Why wouldn't the poor support a progressive tax. It's easy to support something where you don't pay while believing those that are successful should pay more so your ass can get something for nothing.

 

[danielpalos]

I'm not really a republican. They are either rich and selfish or poor and stupid.

You're a supporter of killing innocent life.

Wanting to keep more of what you earned isn't selfish. Stupid involves thinking someone owes you something because you aren't willing to earn it.

That’s your greedy and or ignorant way of looking at it.

Our way worked better. New deal to Bill Clinton. You get from bush to now. How are the masses doing?

The greedy way is thinking what someone else earned belongs to you.

I don't give a shit how you're doing. The only people I'm concerned with is me and my family. If you and yours go without, you should try harder and do better. You're not my concern nor should you be.

If that’s the way republicans make then people will do worse as the rich do better.

See? You are responsible for the growing gap between the rich and rest of us. A flat tax is fair but doesn’t work. Not as good as our unfair progressive tax.

Progressive tax is what voters should be voting for.

Unless they’re successful like us

Again, I don't care if you do worse. That's your problem, not mine.

Why wouldn't the poor support a progressive tax. It's easy to support something where you don't pay while believing those that are successful should pay more so your ass can get something for nothing.

raise the minimum wage Until the Poor, Pay their Fair Share!

 

[Conservative65]

I don't see the word socialism there.

only the right wing, Never gets it. that Is socialism.

Only public sector means of production can accomplish them.

That is your claim. Can you show me the word socialism in that text?

Public sector means of production accomplishing those social Goals, is socialism.

Still waiting on you to show where the term is.

To provide for the general welfare not the general warfare as Any form of public sector command economics and means of production.

You still haven't shown the term "socialism" in the wording.

 

[Conservative65]

You're a supporter of killing innocent life.

Wanting to keep more of what you earned isn't selfish. Stupid involves thinking someone owes you something because you aren't willing to earn it.

That’s your greedy and or ignorant way of looking at it.

Our way worked better. New deal to Bill Clinton. You get from bush to now. How are the masses doing?

The greedy way is thinking what someone else earned belongs to you.

I don't give a shit how you're doing. The only people I'm concerned with is me and my family. If you and yours go without, you should try harder and do better. You're not my concern nor should you be.

If that’s the way republicans make then people will do worse as the rich do better.

See? You are responsible for the growing gap between the rich and rest of us. A flat tax is fair but doesn’t work. Not as good as our unfair progressive tax.

Progressive tax is what voters should be voting for.

Unless they’re successful like us

Again, I don't care if you do worse. That's your problem, not mine.

Why wouldn't the poor support a progressive tax. It's easy to support something where you don't pay while believing those that are successful should pay more so your ass can get something for nothing.

raise the minimum wage Until the Poor, Pay their Fair Share!

Earn the wage increase and stop begging for someone else to take care of your lazy ass.

 

[danielpalos]

only the right wing, Never gets it. that Is socialism.

Only public sector means of production can accomplish them.

That is your claim. Can you show me the word socialism in that text?

Public sector means of production accomplishing those social Goals, is socialism.

Still waiting on you to show where the term is.

To provide for the general welfare not the general warfare as Any form of public sector command economics and means of production.

You still haven't shown the term "socialism" in the wording.

where is the term "capitalism"?

Social-ism is what we are quibbling about.

Nothing is more certain than the indispensable necessity of government; and it is equally undeniable that whenever and however it is instituted, the people must cede to it some of their natural rights, in order to vest it with requisite powers. -The Federalist Number Two

 

[danielpalos]

That’s your greedy and or ignorant way of looking at it.

Our way worked better. New deal to Bill Clinton. You get from bush to now. How are the masses doing?

The greedy way is thinking what someone else earned belongs to you.

I don't give a shit how you're doing. The only people I'm concerned with is me and my family. If you and yours go without, you should try harder and do better. You're not my concern nor should you be.

If that’s the way republicans make then people will do worse as the rich do better.

See? You are responsible for the growing gap between the rich and rest of us. A flat tax is fair but doesn’t work. Not as good as our unfair progressive tax.

Progressive tax is what voters should be voting for.

Unless they’re successful like us

Again, I don't care if you do worse. That's your problem, not mine.

Why wouldn't the poor support a progressive tax. It's easy to support something where you don't pay while believing those that are successful should pay more so your ass can get something for nothing.

raise the minimum wage Until the Poor, Pay their Fair Share!

Earn the wage increase and stop begging for someone else to take care of your lazy ass.

stop complaining the Poor don't Pay Their Share!

 

[Conservative65]

That is your claim. Can you show me the word socialism in that text?

Public sector means of production accomplishing those social Goals, is socialism.

Still waiting on you to show where the term is.

To provide for the general welfare not the general warfare as Any form of public sector command economics and means of production.

You still haven't shown the term "socialism" in the wording.

where is the term "capitalism"?

Social-ism is what we are quibbling about.

Nothing is more certain than the indispensable necessity of government; and it is equally undeniable that whenever and however it is instituted, the people must cede to it some of their natural rights, in order to vest it with requisite powers. -The Federalist Number Two

Never claimed it was there. You did, however, claim that it about socialism.

It's not the taxpayer's responsibility to feed, house, clothe, provide healthcare coverage, etc. to someone unwilling to do it for him/herself or his/her kids.

 

[Conservative65]

The greedy way is thinking what someone else earned belongs to you.

I don't give a shit how you're doing. The only people I'm concerned with is me and my family. If you and yours go without, you should try harder and do better. You're not my concern nor should you be.

If that’s the way republicans make then people will do worse as the rich do better.

See? You are responsible for the growing gap between the rich and rest of us. A flat tax is fair but doesn’t work. Not as good as our unfair progressive tax.

Progressive tax is what voters should be voting for.

Unless they’re successful like us

Again, I don't care if you do worse. That's your problem, not mine.

Why wouldn't the poor support a progressive tax. It's easy to support something where you don't pay while believing those that are successful should pay more so your ass can get something for nothing.

raise the minimum wage Until the Poor, Pay their Fair Share!

Earn the wage increase and stop begging for someone else to take care of your lazy ass.

stop complaining the Poor don't Pay Their Share!

The poor don't pay any share. Are you saying that's fair? In fact, there are people considered middle class that don't pay any share.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm not really a republican. They are either rich and selfish or poor and stupid.

You're a supporter of killing innocent life.

Wanting to keep more of what you earned isn't selfish. Stupid involves thinking someone owes you something because you aren't willing to earn it.

That’s your greedy and or ignorant way of looking at it.

Our way worked better. New deal to Bill Clinton. You get from bush to now. How are the masses doing?

The greedy way is thinking what someone else earned belongs to you.

I don't give a shit how you're doing. The only people I'm concerned with is me and my family. If you and yours go without, you should try harder and do better. You're not my concern nor should you be.

If that’s the way republicans make then people will do worse as the rich do better.

See? You are responsible for the growing gap between the rich and rest of us. A flat tax is fair but doesn’t work. Not as good as our unfair progressive tax.

Progressive tax is what voters should be voting for.

Unless they’re successful like us

Again, I don't care if you do worse. That's your problem, not mine.

Why wouldn't the poor support a progressive tax. It's easy to support something where you don't pay while believing those that are successful should pay more so your ass can get something for nothing.

Because it works. All the people like you who made it in America made it because there was a progressive tax. Now you want to change the way the game is played after you made it in a more fair system? Typical.

 

[Conservative65]

You're a supporter of killing innocent life.

Wanting to keep more of what you earned isn't selfish. Stupid involves thinking someone owes you something because you aren't willing to earn it.

That’s your greedy and or ignorant way of looking at it.

Our way worked better. New deal to Bill Clinton. You get from bush to now. How are the masses doing?

The greedy way is thinking what someone else earned belongs to you.

I don't give a shit how you're doing. The only people I'm concerned with is me and my family. If you and yours go without, you should try harder and do better. You're not my concern nor should you be.

If that’s the way republicans make then people will do worse as the rich do better.

See? You are responsible for the growing gap between the rich and rest of us. A flat tax is fair but doesn’t work. Not as good as our unfair progressive tax.

Progressive tax is what voters should be voting for.

Unless they’re successful like us

Again, I don't care if you do worse. That's your problem, not mine.

Why wouldn't the poor support a progressive tax. It's easy to support something where you don't pay while believing those that are successful should pay more so your ass can get something for nothing.

Because it works. All the people like you who made it in America made it because there was a progressive tax. Now you want to change the way the game is played after you made it in a more fair system? Typical.

I didn't make it because there was a progressive tax. There you go thinking you have a clue about what it takes to get ahead. Supporting a progressive tax system proves you think others owe you something. The poor think someone owes them something. That's why they support it because they get something they didn't earn and someone of which they're jealous is supposed to pay for it.