A large order of McDonald's fries costs about $126 in Venezuela

Don't you just love the way socialism does so much for the working man and the poor? How much do you want to bet that this thread will bring down a hail of abuse against McDonald's from the resident forum commies?


The good news is McDonald's is finally bringing back fries in Venezuela, after getting rid of them last year, according to the AP. The bad news is the regular will cost about $79 (500 bolivars), according to the country's strongest exchange rate.

Worse, a large will cost about $126 (800 bolivars).

The exchange rates were calculated at the time of publication.

Still, at Venezuela's black market rate, these prices would be $0.64 for the regular, and $1.15 for the large, according to Fusion.

However, at the black market exchange rate, Venezuela's minimum wage is only about $13 per month.

So, with those numbers, one large fries would cost nearly 9% of a person's monthly wage.


Oh my goodness. It is so important that people in Venezuela can eat MacDonald's fries....especially since their high saturated fat content contribute to heart disease, diabetes an obesity.

Another moron who doesn't get the point chimes in. This thread is not about the merits of McDonalds french fries. It's about the standard of living in Venezuela. McDonalds is being used as a yardstick for comparison purposes.

Of course, I don't believe you're as stupid as you pretend to be. You know you can't win on the subject of the discussion, so you attempt a diversion.
If you want to address the ills of communism or socialism, MacDonald's is not the best way to do it for certain.

If you want to address the ills of capitalism, MacDonald's would be one of the best examples.

What a surprise that you still don't get the point.

People wouldn't eat at McDonalds if they didn't want to. Getting what you want is not an "ill." The ills of socialism are wallowing in poverty and having government bureaucrats make all your decisions for you.
 
You said South Americans produce healthy food. You're obviously an ignorant moron.

South America doesn't have nearly the obesity problem the U.S. has. Americans really are fat asses. It is what it is.

Most South Americans have to walk everywhere because they can't afford to buy a car. That's why they aren't fat.

Once again, you only prove that you're a dumb, ignorant American bigot.

Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?
And there is the pot calling the kettle black.

That must be your conception of wit.
 
South America doesn't have nearly the obesity problem the U.S. has. Americans really are fat asses. It is what it is.

Most South Americans have to walk everywhere because they can't afford to buy a car. That's why they aren't fat.

Once again, you only prove that you're a dumb, ignorant American bigot.

Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?
And there is the pot calling the kettle black.

That must be your conception of wit.
It's concept, not conception.
 
You said South Americans produce healthy food. You're obviously an ignorant moron.

South America doesn't have nearly the obesity problem the U.S. has. Americans really are fat asses. It is what it is.

Most South Americans have to walk everywhere because they can't afford to buy a car. That's why they aren't fat.

Once again, you only prove that you're a dumb, ignorant American bigot.

Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?

Seriously, you don't care about Venezuelans. You just wanna steal their oil. So mind your own business. Leave Venezuela to Venezuelans.

You're right, I don't give a damn about Venezuela. I care about America, and I don't want it to turn into Venezuela. However, that's exactly what will happen if Americans listen to morons like you.
 
Most South Americans have to walk everywhere because they can't afford to buy a car. That's why they aren't fat.

Once again, you only prove that you're a dumb, ignorant American bigot.

Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?
And there is the pot calling the kettle black.

That must be your conception of wit.
It's concept, not conception.

Talk about sucking all the intelligence out of the room.
 
South America doesn't have nearly the obesity problem the U.S. has. Americans really are fat asses. It is what it is.

Most South Americans have to walk everywhere because they can't afford to buy a car. That's why they aren't fat.

Once again, you only prove that you're a dumb, ignorant American bigot.

Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?

Seriously, you don't care about Venezuelans. You just wanna steal their oil. So mind your own business. Leave Venezuela to Venezuelans.

You're right, I don't give a damn about Venezuela. I care about America, and I don't want it to turn into Venezuela. However, that's exactly what will happen if Americans listen to morons like you.
LOL That's just plain silly, Chicken Little.
 
Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?
And there is the pot calling the kettle black.

That must be your conception of wit.
It's concept, not conception.

Talk about sucking all the intelligence out of the room.
You are the one talking about it and you are the one doing it. As well, you misused the term conception.
 
Most South Americans have to walk everywhere because they can't afford to buy a car. That's why they aren't fat.

Once again, you only prove that you're a dumb, ignorant American bigot.

Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?

Seriously, you don't care about Venezuelans. You just wanna steal their oil. So mind your own business. Leave Venezuela to Venezuelans.

You're right, I don't give a damn about Venezuela. I care about America, and I don't want it to turn into Venezuela. However, that's exactly what will happen if Americans listen to morons like you.
LOL That's just plain silly, Chicken Little.

Your patter is so vapid that you're about to become the first person ever to get on my ignore list, and that's after 48,000 posts.
 
South America doesn't have nearly the obesity problem the U.S. has. Americans really are fat asses. It is what it is.

Most South Americans have to walk everywhere because they can't afford to buy a car. That's why they aren't fat.

Once again, you only prove that you're a dumb, ignorant American bigot.

Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?

Seriously, you don't care about Venezuelans. You just wanna steal their oil. So mind your own business. Leave Venezuela to Venezuelans.

You're right, I don't give a damn about Venezuela. I care about America, and I don't want it to turn into Venezuela. However, that's exactly what will happen if Americans listen to morons like you.

Well then stop whining about Venezuela. Start whining about your own country.
 
Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?
And there is the pot calling the kettle black.

That must be your conception of wit.
It's concept, not conception.

Talk about sucking all the intelligence out of the room.

I actually hear ya. I don't want my country becoming Venezuela either. So we can agree on that. I just think you chose the wrong example and argument. McDonalds and other evil corporations like it, represent the worst of America.

So I can understand why other countries don't wanna go that route. Corporatism is the wrong way to go. But so is Communism/Socialism. I think we agree somewhat overall. Take care.
 
Most South Americans have to walk everywhere because they can't afford to buy a car. That's why they aren't fat.

Once again, you only prove that you're a dumb, ignorant American bigot.

Oh, so that's why most Americans are fat asses? Sure, now i get it. Yeah, why don't you mind your own business and worry about your own country's problems.

Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?

Seriously, you don't care about Venezuelans. You just wanna steal their oil. So mind your own business. Leave Venezuela to Venezuelans.

You're right, I don't give a damn about Venezuela. I care about America, and I don't want it to turn into Venezuela. However, that's exactly what will happen if Americans listen to morons like you.

Well then stop whining about Venezuela. Start whining about your own country.

Is acting stupid some kind of debate tactic with you?
 
Do you suck all the intelligence out of a room when you walk in?
And there is the pot calling the kettle black.

That must be your conception of wit.
It's concept, not conception.

Talk about sucking all the intelligence out of the room.

I actually hear ya. I don't want my country becoming Venezuela either. So we can agree on that. I just think you chose the wrong example and argument. McDonalds and other evil corporations like it, represent the worst of America.

So I can understand why other countries don't wanna go that route. Corporatism is the wrong way to go. But so is Communism/Socialism. I think we agree somewhat overall. Take care.
MsDonalds is not the cause of Venzuela's problems, numskull.

Of course, even you are not so stupid that you don't understand that.
 
You gravely underestimate the misery South American nations have suffered for a couple hundred years if you only speak of left wing governments. Right wing dictatorships and "democratic" rulers have inflicted as much (or more?) pain than have the so-called socialists. The common thread of evil woven into the fabric of South American lives is the virulent corruption that seems to be endemic amongst the powerful of that region.
I say "or more?" because for decades the U.S. supported brutal right wing "juntas" for the usual cold war reasons. The Monroe Doctrine has always been a buffer for the U.S. from communism or unwanted European influence, it was never meant to improve or protect the lives of other western hemisphere peoples.
 
Why would Big Mac "bring back fries after getting rid of them last year" according to the A.P. Is the A.P. the source for the entire convoluted story? Why would MacDonald establish itself in South America if nobody could afford to spend a week's wages on a order of large fries? Nothing makes sense in the story. Doesn't South America produce cooking oil and freaking potatoes?
In Brazil a Big Mac is $5.54. Venezuela's economy has gone from bad to worst with the fall in oil prices. 95% of their exports are petroleum products and petroleum sales account over half of the countries GDP.

Their economic problems Are almost entirely the result of socialism. It's the poorest country in South American even though it sits on top of an ocean of oil.
Being that 95% of all exports and 45% of all revenues are due to petroleum products, I would say that most of their economic problems resulted from from a 67% fall in oil prices over the last 5 years.
 
Don't you just love the way socialism does so much for the working man and the poor? How much do you want to bet that this thread will bring down a hail of abuse against McDonald's from the resident forum commies?


The good news is McDonald's is finally bringing back fries in Venezuela, after getting rid of them last year, according to the AP. The bad news is the regular will cost about $79 (500 bolivars), according to the country's strongest exchange rate.

Worse, a large will cost about $126 (800 bolivars).

The exchange rates were calculated at the time of publication.

Still, at Venezuela's black market rate, these prices would be $0.64 for the regular, and $1.15 for the large, according to Fusion.

However, at the black market exchange rate, Venezuela's minimum wage is only about $13 per month.

So, with those numbers, one large fries would cost nearly 9% of a person's monthly wage.


So how does socialism play a role in this exactly? They have a shit exchange rate and these products must be exported.
 
Why would Big Mac "bring back fries after getting rid of them last year" according to the A.P. Is the A.P. the source for the entire convoluted story? Why would MacDonald establish itself in South America if nobody could afford to spend a week's wages on a order of large fries? Nothing makes sense in the story. Doesn't South America produce cooking oil and freaking potatoes?
In Brazil a Big Mac is $5.54. Venezuela's economy has gone from bad to worst with the fall in oil prices. 95% of their exports are petroleum products and petroleum sales account over half of the countries GDP.

Their economic problems Are almost entirely the result of socialism. It's the poorest country in South American even though it sits on top of an ocean of oil.
Being that 95% of all exports and 45% of all revenues are due to petroleum products, I would say that most of their economic problems resulted from from a 67% fall in oil prices over the last 5 years.

The fact that 95% of all exports and 45% of all revenues are due to petroleum products shows that their economy was already fucked before the drop in oil prices. Venezuela has no industry. That's because socialism has destroyed it all. Even their oil production is dropping. Smart countries in the Middle East have diversified their economies. Dubai is no longer dependent on oil revenues.
 
Don't you just love the way socialism does so much for the working man and the poor? How much do you want to bet that this thread will bring down a hail of abuse against McDonald's from the resident forum commies?


The good news is McDonald's is finally bringing back fries in Venezuela, after getting rid of them last year, according to the AP. The bad news is the regular will cost about $79 (500 bolivars), according to the country's strongest exchange rate.

Worse, a large will cost about $126 (800 bolivars).

The exchange rates were calculated at the time of publication.

Still, at Venezuela's black market rate, these prices would be $0.64 for the regular, and $1.15 for the large, according to Fusion.

However, at the black market exchange rate, Venezuela's minimum wage is only about $13 per month.

So, with those numbers, one large fries would cost nearly 9% of a person's monthly wage.



And a liter of gasoline's like 3 cents so it probably averages out ok.
 
Don't you just love the way socialism does so much for the working man and the poor? How much do you want to bet that this thread will bring down a hail of abuse against McDonald's from the resident forum commies?


The good news is McDonald's is finally bringing back fries in Venezuela, after getting rid of them last year, according to the AP. The bad news is the regular will cost about $79 (500 bolivars), according to the country's strongest exchange rate.

Worse, a large will cost about $126 (800 bolivars).

The exchange rates were calculated at the time of publication.

Still, at Venezuela's black market rate, these prices would be $0.64 for the regular, and $1.15 for the large, according to Fusion.

However, at the black market exchange rate, Venezuela's minimum wage is only about $13 per month.

So, with those numbers, one large fries would cost nearly 9% of a person's monthly wage.


So how does socialism play a role in this exactly? They have a shit exchange rate and these products must be exported.

Their exchange rate is shit because their socialist government is trying to pay its bills by debasing the currency. Price controls, export and import controls, government expropriation of industry and massive interference in the economy have made virtually everything in the Venezuelan economy scarce.
 
Don't you just love the way socialism does so much for the working man and the poor? How much do you want to bet that this thread will bring down a hail of abuse against McDonald's from the resident forum commies?


The good news is McDonald's is finally bringing back fries in Venezuela, after getting rid of them last year, according to the AP. The bad news is the regular will cost about $79 (500 bolivars), according to the country's strongest exchange rate.

Worse, a large will cost about $126 (800 bolivars).

The exchange rates were calculated at the time of publication.

Still, at Venezuela's black market rate, these prices would be $0.64 for the regular, and $1.15 for the large, according to Fusion.

However, at the black market exchange rate, Venezuela's minimum wage is only about $13 per month.

So, with those numbers, one large fries would cost nearly 9% of a person's monthly wage.



And a liter of gasoline's like 3 cents so it probably averages out ok.

No, it doesn't average out. Haven't you seen the pictures of long lines people waiting to get into a grocery store? Haven't you read about all the shortages? Haven't you seen pictures of the empty shelves in grocery stores?
 
Don't you just love the way socialism does so much for the working man and the poor? How much do you want to bet that this thread will bring down a hail of abuse against McDonald's from the resident forum commies?


The good news is McDonald's is finally bringing back fries in Venezuela, after getting rid of them last year, according to the AP. The bad news is the regular will cost about $79 (500 bolivars), according to the country's strongest exchange rate.

Worse, a large will cost about $126 (800 bolivars).

The exchange rates were calculated at the time of publication.

Still, at Venezuela's black market rate, these prices would be $0.64 for the regular, and $1.15 for the large, according to Fusion.

However, at the black market exchange rate, Venezuela's minimum wage is only about $13 per month.

So, with those numbers, one large fries would cost nearly 9% of a person's monthly wage.



And a liter of gasoline's like 3 cents so it probably averages out ok.

No, it doesn't average out. Haven't you seen the pictures of long lines people waiting to get into a grocery store? Haven't you read about all the shortages? Haven't you seen pictures of the empty shelves in grocery stores?

Right, with nothing else to spend money on it averages out ok :)
 

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