A mothers rant regarding the Newtown Tragedy

[ba1614]

I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

Two things.

Guards are not needed. Teacher can and have carried weapons. With very good training I might add...

However, the real question that you need to ask yourself is, "Why do you think your kid will be scared at school if he or she sees a gun?"

Because the progressive teachers are "pushing" kids from day 1 to believe guns are evil.

 

[Luissa]

I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

Two things.

Guards are not needed. Teacher can and have carried weapons. With very good training I might add...

However, the real question that you need to ask yourself is, "Why do you think your kid will be scared at school if he or she sees a gun?"

I don't know, for logical reasons........Lets see, why would his teacher need a gun at school?
I don't want my son's teacher to have a gun, I don't want an armed guard at his school, and I don't want idiots making my son live in constant fear. I have not taught my son to be scared of gun, I am not for gun control. I just don't want my son to be afraid of something that will probably never happen to him because right wing loons have a new thing to be scared about.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

It amazes me that grabbers want gun control even though countless times has shown that it does not work.

Show me a post of mine where I advocate for gun control. I never once mentioned gun control. All I stated was I didn't want an armed person at my son's school, that is not gun control.

Did I say you were?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And you confirmed that you were, so that means that you'd already brought Australia into the discussion - you just hadn't explicitly named it.

Australia WASN'T MENTIONED UNTIL THIS POST.

And your reply was

it would also apply to Australia

meaning that Australia was already implied in your point about 'grabbers' - so technically you mentioned Australia first.

Shit stain you are a dumb ass hack and a liar.

You're talking about Australia again, aren't you?

No but it would also apply to Australia unless your country no longer has murders with guns.

What in the fuck is missing from my post that you quoted?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It just goes to show that right wingers are really not for small government, just lower taxes. So can we stop the bullshit now?

You're the one that does not care about children, your the one who thinks they should not be protected. You're the one who somehow thinks for what ever reason a person paid to carry a firearm in a school constitutes a jail.

I don't want to protect children? I love how many continue to say that.
I have a five year old, I worry about what might happen to every day. I am a mother, I always want to protect him. I also want to protect him from scared people who make irrational decisions because some event and want to put an armed person in his school or classroom.
My child is not scared of the world, and I would like to keep it that way. We all die. He could be killed tomorrow in a car wreck I am not going to stop letting him ride in a car, he could be killed by anything tomorrow, I am not going to keep him in a bubble.
My brother was shot when I was fourteen by some drug induced scared teenager and there was nothing my parents or my brother could have done to stop him. And at fourteen I watched bullets be taken out of my brother's face because I didnt want him to be alone while my parents had to talk to the Police.
So please do not lecture me on not protecting children. My child should be able to go to school and not be afraid, knowing that there is an armed guard there or an armed teacher will only make him wonder what he has to be afraid of. So sorry I don't want my son to grow up being scared of the world.

Didn't you in a post say you don't want your children in a jail with armed guards?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

This thread is in response to starkeys asinine robo post about 80 million moms against the NRA. I REALIZE THIS IS JUST ONE MOTHER BUT THERE ARE MANY MANY MORE MOTHERS WHO ARE JUST LIKE THIS MOTHER.

A Mother's rant regarding the Newtown Tragedy December 2012 - YouTube

Fakey Jake is a faker. The only thing you need to defeat his idiocy is the fact that Gallup has Obama polling at a lower favorablity rating than the NRA even after Nowtown.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

I find it interesting that big government psychopaths think armed guards for children is a bad idea.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you have never been in a bank that did not have an armed guard. (I take that back, I actually enjoy bursting your bubble.) Just because you don't see them is not proof they do not exist.

 

[Luissa]

I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

I find it interesting that big government psychopaths think armed guards for children is a bad idea.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you have never been in a bank that did not have an armed guard. (I take that back, I actually enjoy bursting your bubble.) Just because you don't see them is not proof they do not exist.

I never said they didn't exist, I said I have not been in a bank that had one.

And how am I big government psychopath? Please explain to me how I am for big government, other than taking care of our poor?
I will be waiting.........and I will be waiting for awhile. You are moron who likes to believe what they want to believe.

 

[Jarhead]

I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

Two things.

Guards are not needed. Teacher can and have carried weapons. With very good training I might add...

However, the real question that you need to ask yourself is, "Why do you think your kid will be scared at school if he or she sees a gun?"

I don't know, for logical reasons........Lets see, why would his teacher need a gun at school?
I don't want my son's teacher to have a gun, I don't want an armed guard at his school, and I don't want idiots making my son live in constant fear. I have not taught my son to be scared of gun, I am not for gun control. I just don't want my son to be afraid of something that will probably never happen to him because right wing loons have a new thing to be scared about.

I bet if you were a parent of a Newtown kid that lost his/her life you would think differently.

 

[Luissa]

So if someone is for the government not telling them who they should be allowed to marry, against gun control, for a women's right to choose, for drugs being legal, doesn't want armed guards at their child's school, not for drug testing TANF recipients, well is pretty much against drug testing in general, that translates into being for big government?
No of course not, but to an idiot like you because I don't go ape shit over taxes, one issue, that means I am for big government. Yep, you are onto something.

I guess that is why I also get stuff like socialist anarchist when I take political tests. No, I am what is called a liberal and you are what is called an idiot.

 

[Luissa]

Two things.

Guards are not needed. Teacher can and have carried weapons. With very good training I might add...

However, the real question that you need to ask yourself is, "Why do you think your kid will be scared at school if he or she sees a gun?"

I don't know, for logical reasons........Lets see, why would his teacher need a gun at school?
I don't want my son's teacher to have a gun, I don't want an armed guard at his school, and I don't want idiots making my son live in constant fear. I have not taught my son to be scared of gun, I am not for gun control. I just don't want my son to be afraid of something that will probably never happen to him because right wing loons have a new thing to be scared about.

I bet if you were a parent of a Newtown kid that lost his/her life you would think differently.

Like I stated before, when I was fourteen years old I watched bullet fragments be taken out of my 17 year old brother's face. I grew up in suburbia, and my parents kept us safe and way from all the scary stuff in life and my brother still got shot by a lunatic teenager. So please don't lecture me on how I would feel.

 

[Ernie S.]

I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

I don't know where your kids go to school, Luissa, but mine went to high school in Bridgeport Connecticut and had armed guards, 4 of them on duty at all times. The youngest graduated high school in 2002, so this is not a new phenomenon.

 

[Luissa]

I have a five year old who goes to Pre School at a public school, I was a senior when the school shootings started to happen, I was a sophomore when a middle school student came to school and shot up his classroom killing his teacher, and it was only two hours from where I lived. I was in school when they started locked downs due to school shooting. I watched the news all day long at school my senior year when Columbine happened. I was also at school when we had to go into a lock down because right wing loons set off a pipe bomb six blocks away from school.
My son has a better chance of dying in a car wreck than being killed by a gunman at school. I am sorry I am being rational, and caring about him not living in fear, then teaching him to be scared of the boogey man.

 

[Jarhead]

I don't know, for logical reasons........Lets see, why would his teacher need a gun at school?
I don't want my son's teacher to have a gun, I don't want an armed guard at his school, and I don't want idiots making my son live in constant fear. I have not taught my son to be scared of gun, I am not for gun control. I just don't want my son to be afraid of something that will probably never happen to him because right wing loons have a new thing to be scared about.

I bet if you were a parent of a Newtown kid that lost his/her life you would think differently.

Like I stated before, when I was fourteen years old I watched bullet fragments be taken out of my 17 year old brother's face. I grew up in suburbia, and my parents kept us safe and way from all the scary stuff in life and my brother still got shot by a lunatic teenager. So please don't lecture me on how I would feel.

No lecturing here whatseover.
Simply stating what I believe to be the truth...having your child killed while they are in the care of someone else and without any form of anti gun defense within 500 yards of him/her would make you feel differently....especially if you had another child.

 

[Jarhead]

I have a five year old who goes to Pre School at a public school, I was a senior when the school shootings started to happen, I was a sophomore when a middle school student came to school and shot up his classroom killing his teacher, and it was only two hours from where I lived. I was in school when they started locked downs due to school shooting. I watched the news all day long at school my senior year when Columbine happened. I was also at school when we had to go into a lock down because right wing loons set off a pipe bomb six blocks away from school.
My son has a better chance of dying in a car wreck than being killed by a gunman at school. I am sorry I am being rational, and caring about him not living in fear, then teaching him to be scared of the boogey man.

But you have no issue telling him about the importance of wearing a seat belt.

You do not have to have your child learn from a standpoint of fear. You can teach him from a standpoint of logic and rationalities.

 

[Luissa]

I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

I don't know where your kids go to school, Luissa, but mine went to high school in Bridgeport Connecticut and had armed guards, 4 of them on duty at all times. The youngest graduated high school in 2002, so this is not a new phenomenon.

That's great for your children's school, my high school at a security guard, one and he wasn't armed and I did just fine. There is no guard at my son's school and he does just fine.
If you are so afraid of things that will probably never happen, home school your child or send them to a school where they treat them like a prisoner. Don't ruin my son's school, and don't teach my son to be scared of the boogey man.

 

[Luissa]

I have a five year old who goes to Pre School at a public school, I was a senior when the school shootings started to happen, I was a sophomore when a middle school student came to school and shot up his classroom killing his teacher, and it was only two hours from where I lived. I was in school when they started locked downs due to school shooting. I watched the news all day long at school my senior year when Columbine happened. I was also at school when we had to go into a lock down because right wing loons set off a pipe bomb six blocks away from school.
My son has a better chance of dying in a car wreck than being killed by a gunman at school. I am sorry I am being rational, and caring about him not living in fear, then teaching him to be scared of the boogey man.

But you have no issue telling him about the importance of wearing a seat belt.

You do not have to have your child learn from a standpoint of fear. You can teach him from a standpoint of logic and rationalities.

Logic? Logic would tell you that this will probably never happen at my son's school, so why make him scared of it? And a seat belt? Yeah, that is a good comparison to having a armed guard at school.

Yep, I am so the big government psychopath.

 

[Jarhead]

I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

I don't know where your kids go to school, Luissa, but mine went to high school in Bridgeport Connecticut and had armed guards, 4 of them on duty at all times. The youngest graduated high school in 2002, so this is not a new phenomenon.

That's great for your children's school, my high school at a security guard, one and he wasn't armed and I did just fine. There is no guard at my son's school and he does just fine.
If you are so afraid of things that will probably never happen, home school your child or send them to a school where they treat them like a prisoner. Don't ruin my son's school, and don't teach my son to be scared of the boogey man.

Interesting.....the boogey man.

So you want your child to believe that there are no bad people out there....except of course, the boogeyman.

I taught my children a long time ago the importance of understanding that there are people out there that are not nice...and to not always beliefve what they hear.....and to always go to an adult they kinow when approached by someone they dont know.

But hey.....with all of the tragedy that seems to surround your life...I guess what you do must work for you.

 

[Jarhead]

I have a five year old who goes to Pre School at a public school, I was a senior when the school shootings started to happen, I was a sophomore when a middle school student came to school and shot up his classroom killing his teacher, and it was only two hours from where I lived. I was in school when they started locked downs due to school shooting. I watched the news all day long at school my senior year when Columbine happened. I was also at school when we had to go into a lock down because right wing loons set off a pipe bomb six blocks away from school.
My son has a better chance of dying in a car wreck than being killed by a gunman at school. I am sorry I am being rational, and caring about him not living in fear, then teaching him to be scared of the boogey man.

But you have no issue telling him about the importance of wearing a seat belt.

You do not have to have your child learn from a standpoint of fear. You can teach him from a standpoint of logic and rationalities.

Logic? Logic would tell you that this will probably never happen at my son's school, so why make him scared of it? And a seat belt? Yeah, that is a good comparison to having a armed guard at school.

Yep, I am so the big government psychopath.

Nice little spin.

The comparison was not the seat belt to the armed guard..

The analogy was about "teaching your child to be afraid of car accidents...but refusing to teach your child about the existance of bad people".

 

[Luissa]

I bet if you were a parent of a Newtown kid that lost his/her life you would think differently.

Like I stated before, when I was fourteen years old I watched bullet fragments be taken out of my 17 year old brother's face. I grew up in suburbia, and my parents kept us safe and way from all the scary stuff in life and my brother still got shot by a lunatic teenager. So please don't lecture me on how I would feel.

No lecturing here whatseover.
Simply stating what I believe to be the truth...having your child killed while they are in the care of someone else and without any form of anti gun defense within 500 yards of him/her would make you feel differently....especially if you had another child.

I don't think it would, just like the God argument. A gun wouldn't have stopped this asshole, he had on a bullet proof vest, and God in schools would not have stopped him either, because he didn't go to school there.
Instead of focusing on the real issues, the way we treat the mentally ill, you guys are focusing on something that would not have stopped him. If there had been an armed guard at the school, he would have been the first one killed. If you don't think that, don't lecture me on what is logical.