Zone1 Abortion is murder and I can't find any way to show otherwise.

[TemplarKormac]

Tell that to a cow.

We still acknowledge that it is a calf is in development. But a human fetus is just a clump of cell and DNA.

That's wicked.

 

[peacefan]

peacefan

What do you think the unborn are if not human?

clumps of human-DNA in biological cell form.
no brain, no heartbeat.

and once again, WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE CHILD'S UPBRINGING?

 

[forkup]

We still acknowledge that it is a calf is in development. But a human fetus is just a clump of cell and DNA.

That's wicked.

What's your point? First of, you, me, a calf, a cow , a human fetus, are all a clump of cells and DNA. Some of these examples though have more rights then others.

The clump of cells and DNA that forms a cow does not have any special right to live to most people, because we will eat them. That's why I responded to your contention that animals are treated better than human fetuses.


That's how I look at the discussion. I don't care if you consider a fetus, a human, a person, or a clump of cells and DNA. To me the argument is that that fetus doesn't have the same rights as the person bearing that fetus, it has less. And I further content that the pro-life argument comes down to giving that fetus MORE rights than that woman. Not just that, but more rights than you would award it after it's birth.