AL gay couple accused of sexual abuse of child

[koshergrl]

"Compared with children raised by their married biological parents (IBF), children of homosexual parents (LM and GF):

• Are much more likely to have received welfare (IBF 17%; LM 69%; GF 57%)
• Have lower educational attainment
• Report less safety and security in their family of origin
• Report more ongoing "negative impact" from their family of origin
• Are more likely to suffer from depression
• Have been arrested more often
• If they are female, have had more sexual partners--both male and female

The high mathematical standard of "statistical significance" was more difficult to reach for the children of "gay fathers" in this study because there were fewer of them. The following, however, are some additional areas in which the children of lesbian mothers (who represented 71% of all the children with homosexual parents in this study) differed from the IBF children, in ways that were statistically significant in both a direct comparison and with controls. Children of lesbian mothers:

• Are more likely to be currently cohabiting
• Are almost 4 times more likely to be currently on public assistance
• Are less likely to be currently employed full-time
• Are more than 3 times more likely to be unemployed
• Are nearly 4 times more likely to identify as something other than entirely heterosexual
• Are 3 times as likely to have had an affair while married or cohabiting
• Are an astonishing 10 times more likely to have been "touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver."
• Are nearly 4 times as likely to have been "physically forced" to have sex against their will
• Are more likely to have "attachment" problems related to the ability to depend on others
• Use marijuana more frequently
• Smoke more frequently
• Watch TV for long periods more frequently
• Have more often pled guilty to a non-minor offense"

Family Research Council
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610

 

[bodecea]

"Compared with children raised by their married biological parents (IBF), children of homosexual parents (LM and GF):

• Are much more likely to have received welfare (IBF 17%; LM 69%; GF 57%)
• Have lower educational attainment
• Report less safety and security in their family of origin
• Report more ongoing "negative impact" from their family of origin
• Are more likely to suffer from depression
• Have been arrested more often
• If they are female, have had more sexual partners--both male and female

The high mathematical standard of "statistical significance" was more difficult to reach for the children of "gay fathers" in this study because there were fewer of them. The following, however, are some additional areas in which the children of lesbian mothers (who represented 71% of all the children with homosexual parents in this study) differed from the IBF children, in ways that were statistically significant in both a direct comparison and with controls. Children of lesbian mothers:

• Are more likely to be currently cohabiting
• Are almost 4 times more likely to be currently on public assistance
• Are less likely to be currently employed full-time
• Are more than 3 times more likely to be unemployed
• Are nearly 4 times more likely to identify as something other than entirely heterosexual
• Are 3 times as likely to have had an affair while married or cohabiting
• Are an astonishing 10 times more likely to have been "touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver."
• Are nearly 4 times as likely to have been "physically forced" to have sex against their will
• Are more likely to have "attachment" problems related to the ability to depend on others
• Use marijuana more frequently
• Smoke more frequently
• Watch TV for long periods more frequently
• Have more often pled guilty to a non-minor offense"

Family Research Council
How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study

Family Research Council.

 

[koshergrl]

You fucking moron.

The FRC commented on the study, and I quoted that, then linked the actual study by the:
Department of Sociology and Population Research Center, University of Texas at Austin

How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study

Nitwit.

At any rate, I'd believe the FRC over the Kinsey Institute/APA any day of the week.

 

[koshergrl]

Here's another one for you. Bode, just skip this, it's obviously beyond you:

"
Abstract

In 2005, the American Psychological Association (APA) issued an official brief on lesbian and gay parenting. This brief included the assertion: “Not a single study has found children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged in any significant respect relative to children of heterosexual parents” (p. 15). The present article closely examines this assertion and the 59 published studies cited by the APA to support it. Seven central questions address: (1) homogeneous sampling, (2) absence of comparison groups, (3) comparison group characteristics, (4) contradictory data, (5) the limited scope of children’s outcomes studied, (6) paucity of long-term outcome data, and (7) lack of APA-urged statistical power. The conclusion is that strong assertions, including those made by the APA, were not empirically warranted. Recommendations for future research are offered."

Same-sex parenting and children?s outcomes: A closer examination of the American psychological association?s brief on lesbian and gay parenting

(From Louisiana State University, 341 School of Human Ecology)

 

[bodecea]

Family Research Council

 

[koshergrl]

In case you missed it:

"The conclusion is that strong assertions, including those made by the APA, were not empirically warranted."

Same-sex parenting and children?s outcomes: A closer examination of the American psychological association?s brief on lesbian and gay parenting

 

[Vox]

"
Existing cross-sectional research suggests associations between physical and sexual abuse in childhood and same-sex sexual orientation in adulthood. This study prospectively examined whether abuse and/or neglect in childhood were associated with increased likelihood of same-sex partnerships in adulthood. The sample included physically abused (N = 85), sexually abused (N = 72), and neglected (N = 429) children (ages 0-11) with documented cases during 1967-1971 who were matched with non-maltreated children (N = 415) and followed into adulthood. At approximately age 40, participants (483 women and 461 men) were asked about romantic cohabitation and sexual partners, in the context of in-person interviews covering a range of topics. Group (abuse/neglect versus control) differences were assessed with cross-tabulations and logistic regression. A total of 8% of the overall sample reported any same-sex relationship (cohabitation or sexual partners). Childhood physical abuse and neglect were not significantly associated with same-sex cohabitation or sexual partners. Individuals with documented histories of childhood sexual abuse were significantly more likely than controls to report ever having had same-sex sexual partners (OR = 2.81, 95% CI = 1.16-6.80, p = .05); however, only men with histories of childhood sexual abuse were significantly more likely than controls to report same-sex sexual partners (OR = 6.75, 95% CI = 1.53-29.86, p = .01). These prospective findings provide tentative evidence of a link between childhood sexual abuse and same-sex sexual partnerships among men, although further research is needed to explore this relationship and to examine potential underlying mechanisms."

Sexual abuse and sexual orientation: A prospective study

Drug Use and Sexual Arrangements Among Gay Couples: Frequency, Interdependence, and Associations with Sexual Risk - Online First - Springer

THE FACTS
According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.
10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked | Southern Poverty Law Center

The National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS) 1.51% of the population of the US identify as GLBT, whereas other studies put this figure as high as 8% (Fay et al, 1989). However, statistics for people abused in childhood are significantly higher that this, with reliable estimates given for child sexual abuse to be 16% for males and 27% for females in the USA (NRCCSA, 1994).

Therefore, if there is a causal link between childhood sexual abuse and identifying as GLBT later in life, then why aren’t the figures for the number of GLBT people in the population reflected by the abuse statistics? There are significantly more cases of sexual abuse than there are people that identify as GLBT (Macmillan, 1997), and furthermore, the vast majority of persons sexually abused as children are heterosexual (Keith, 1991).

In addition to this, virtually all statistics agree that females are more likely to be sexually abused in childhood than males are - and yet, and yet there are proportionally more men that identify as being gay than there are women who identify as lesbian (Hite, 1991; Janus, 1993, Jefferson, 2001).

The problem with the believe that abuse causes homosexuality

Conclusion

The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

you seriously consider "southern poverty law center" is a reliable source or some other obscure BLOG i comparison with CONTEMPORARY study ( not some outdated surveys?)?

think again

it's propaganda BS

 

[koshergrl]

Family Research Council

Department of Sociology and Population Research Center, University of Texas at Austin

Louisiana State University

 

[JakeStarkey]

Family Research Council

Family Research Council's vision is a culture in which human life is valued, families flourish and religious liberty thrives.

Mission of Organization: Family Research Council's mission is to advance faith, family and freedom in public policy and the culture from a Christian worldview.

 

[koshergrl]

Er..you guys, the STUDIES aren't from the FRC.

This is the problem when uneducated morons try to discuss the issues of the day. You just don't understand the ins and outs of sourcing. The FRC SUMMARIZED the one study..but I linked the STUDIES THEMSELVES, and they are from #1, Department of Sociology and Population Research Center, University of Texas at Austin...and #2, Louisiana State University.

 

[koshergrl]

"Adult children of parents who were in same-sex relationships differ notably on a variety of social, emotional and relationship factors from adult children raised by biological parents who are married and heterosexual, according to research led by Mark Regnerus, an associate professor of sociology at The University of Texas at Austin.
The findings, to be published in the July issue of Social Science Research, are particularly significant because they are based on the first large-scale, population-based survey of young adults that features a large number of cases in which survey respondents’ parents had been in same-sex relationships.
“Most conclusions about same-sex parenting have been drawn from small, convenience samples, not larger, random ones,” Regnerus said. “The results of that approach have often led family scholars to conclude that there are no differences between children raised in same-sex households and those raised in other types of families. But those earlier studies have inadvertently masked real diversity among gay and lesbian parenting experiences in America.”

From UT:

Adult Children of Parents in Same-Sex Relationships Report Varied Outcomes | News

 

[Vox]

"
Existing cross-sectional research suggests associations between physical and sexual abuse in childhood and same-sex sexual orientation in adulthood. This study prospectively examined whether abuse and/or neglect in childhood were associated with increased likelihood of same-sex partnerships in adulthood. The sample included physically abused (N = 85), sexually abused (N = 72), and neglected (N = 429) children (ages 0-11) with documented cases during 1967-1971 who were matched with non-maltreated children (N = 415) and followed into adulthood. At approximately age 40, participants (483 women and 461 men) were asked about romantic cohabitation and sexual partners, in the context of in-person interviews covering a range of topics. Group (abuse/neglect versus control) differences were assessed with cross-tabulations and logistic regression. A total of 8% of the overall sample reported any same-sex relationship (cohabitation or sexual partners). Childhood physical abuse and neglect were not significantly associated with same-sex cohabitation or sexual partners. Individuals with documented histories of childhood sexual abuse were significantly more likely than controls to report ever having had same-sex sexual partners (OR = 2.81, 95% CI = 1.16-6.80, p = .05); however, only men with histories of childhood sexual abuse were significantly more likely than controls to report same-sex sexual partners (OR = 6.75, 95% CI = 1.53-29.86, p = .01). These prospective findings provide tentative evidence of a link between childhood sexual abuse and same-sex sexual partnerships among men, although further research is needed to explore this relationship and to examine potential underlying mechanisms."

Sexual abuse and sexual orientation: A prospective study

Drug Use and Sexual Arrangements Among Gay Couples: Frequency, Interdependence, and Associations with Sexual Risk - Online First - Springer

THE FACTS
According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.
10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked | Southern Poverty Law Center

The National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS) 1.51% of the population of the US identify as GLBT, whereas other studies put this figure as high as 8% (Fay et al, 1989). However, statistics for people abused in childhood are significantly higher that this, with reliable estimates given for child sexual abuse to be 16% for males and 27% for females in the USA (NRCCSA, 1994).

Therefore, if there is a causal link between childhood sexual abuse and identifying as GLBT later in life, then why aren’t the figures for the number of GLBT people in the population reflected by the abuse statistics? There are significantly more cases of sexual abuse than there are people that identify as GLBT (Macmillan, 1997), and furthermore, the vast majority of persons sexually abused as children are heterosexual (Keith, 1991).

In addition to this, virtually all statistics agree that females are more likely to be sexually abused in childhood than males are - and yet, and yet there are proportionally more men that identify as being gay than there are women who identify as lesbian (Hite, 1991; Janus, 1993, Jefferson, 2001).

The problem with the believe that abuse causes homosexuality

Conclusion

The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

you seriously consider "southern poverty law center" is a reliable source or some other obscure BLOG i comparison with CONTEMPORARY study ( not some outdated surveys?)?

think again

it's propaganda BS

 

[koshergrl]

From Luisiana State:

"Highlights
► A 26 of 59 APA studies on same-sex parenting had no heterosexual comparison groups. ► In comparison studies, single mothers were often used as the hetero comparison group. ► No comparison study had the statistical power required to detect a small effect size. ► Definitive claims were not substantiated by the 59 published studies."

Same-sex parenting and children?s outcomes: A closer examination of the American psychological association?s brief on lesbian and gay parenting

 

[koshergrl]

"
Existing cross-sectional research suggests associations between physical and sexual abuse in childhood and same-sex sexual orientation in adulthood. This study prospectively examined whether abuse and/or neglect in childhood were associated with increased likelihood of same-sex partnerships in adulthood. The sample included physically abused (N = 85), sexually abused (N = 72), and neglected (N = 429) children (ages 0-11) with documented cases during 1967-1971 who were matched with non-maltreated children (N = 415) and followed into adulthood. At approximately age 40, participants (483 women and 461 men) were asked about romantic cohabitation and sexual partners, in the context of in-person interviews covering a range of topics. Group (abuse/neglect versus control) differences were assessed with cross-tabulations and logistic regression. A total of 8% of the overall sample reported any same-sex relationship (cohabitation or sexual partners). Childhood physical abuse and neglect were not significantly associated with same-sex cohabitation or sexual partners. Individuals with documented histories of childhood sexual abuse were significantly more likely than controls to report ever having had same-sex sexual partners (OR = 2.81, 95% CI = 1.16-6.80, p = .05); however, only men with histories of childhood sexual abuse were significantly more likely than controls to report same-sex sexual partners (OR = 6.75, 95% CI = 1.53-29.86, p = .01). These prospective findings provide tentative evidence of a link between childhood sexual abuse and same-sex sexual partnerships among men, although further research is needed to explore this relationship and to examine potential underlying mechanisms."

Sexual abuse and sexual orientation: A prospective study

Drug Use and Sexual Arrangements Among Gay Couples: Frequency, Interdependence, and Associations with Sexual Risk - Online First - Springer

THE FACTS
According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.
10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked | Southern Poverty Law Center

The National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS) 1.51% of the population of the US identify as GLBT, whereas other studies put this figure as high as 8% (Fay et al, 1989). However, statistics for people abused in childhood are significantly higher that this, with reliable estimates given for child sexual abuse to be 16% for males and 27% for females in the USA (NRCCSA, 1994).

Therefore, if there is a causal link between childhood sexual abuse and identifying as GLBT later in life, then why aren’t the figures for the number of GLBT people in the population reflected by the abuse statistics? There are significantly more cases of sexual abuse than there are people that identify as GLBT (Macmillan, 1997), and furthermore, the vast majority of persons sexually abused as children are heterosexual (Keith, 1991).

In addition to this, virtually all statistics agree that females are more likely to be sexually abused in childhood than males are - and yet, and yet there are proportionally more men that identify as being gay than there are women who identify as lesbian (Hite, 1991; Janus, 1993, Jefferson, 2001).

The problem with the believe that abuse causes homosexuality

Conclusion

The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

you seriously consider "southern poverty law center" is a reliable source or some other obscure BLOG i comparison with CONTEMPORARY study ( not some outdated surveys?)?

think again

it's propaganda BS

The APA is even worse.

But progressives love the APA as they love Kinsey....

 

[Vox]

Er..you guys, the STUDIES aren't from the FRC.

This is the problem when uneducated morons try to discuss the issues of the day. You just don't understand the ins and outs of sourcing. The FRC SUMMARIZED the one study..but I linked the STUDIES THEMSELVES, and they are from #1, Department of Sociology and Population Research Center, University of Texas at Austin...and #2, Louisiana State University.

if the left does not have the arguments, they LIE.

they consider southern poverty law center BLOG to be a reliable "study center" and reliable UNIVERSITY studies if they come against their agenda - to be blog studies.

BTW, the interesting question from all of the studies before and now was and is - why sexual predators are predominantly MALES?

it does not matter f they are androphilic predators or gynephilic predators - but predators are 99.99% males always.

as far as I know nobody ever addressed the issue.

 

[Vox]

THE FACTS
According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.
10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked | Southern Poverty Law Center

The National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS) 1.51% of the population of the US identify as GLBT, whereas other studies put this figure as high as 8% (Fay et al, 1989). However, statistics for people abused in childhood are significantly higher that this, with reliable estimates given for child sexual abuse to be 16% for males and 27% for females in the USA (NRCCSA, 1994).

Therefore, if there is a causal link between childhood sexual abuse and identifying as GLBT later in life, then why aren’t the figures for the number of GLBT people in the population reflected by the abuse statistics? There are significantly more cases of sexual abuse than there are people that identify as GLBT (Macmillan, 1997), and furthermore, the vast majority of persons sexually abused as children are heterosexual (Keith, 1991).

In addition to this, virtually all statistics agree that females are more likely to be sexually abused in childhood than males are - and yet, and yet there are proportionally more men that identify as being gay than there are women who identify as lesbian (Hite, 1991; Janus, 1993, Jefferson, 2001).

The problem with the believe that abuse causes homosexuality

Conclusion

The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

you seriously consider "southern poverty law center" is a reliable source or some other obscure BLOG i comparison with CONTEMPORARY study ( not some outdated surveys?)?

think again

it's propaganda BS

The APA is even worse.

But progressives love the APA as they love Kinsey....

yes, I know. they also love vulgar freudism.

that's the problem with agenda driven people - they refuse to look at the FACTS.

that's why a lot of agenda-driven community is upset at the fraternity order concept as well.

 

[koshergrl]

They support bad science when bad science tells them their lifestyle choices are great.

What the studies show is that the APA deliberately misrepresents their studies, and uses junk *science*. The studies they have promoted that claim there's no difference between homosexual couples and hetero couples actually compared homosexual couples/parents to SINGLE MOTHERS and didn't make the distinction. They didn't compare homosexual couples to hetero couples.

But they PRETENDED they did, and trusted the ignorance of their drooling acolytes to carry them along. As they did.

 

[koshergrl]

It's sort of akin to bode and jake (recognized by all posters on both sides of the aisle as the two most patently dishonest and inherently stupid participants on the site) PRETENDING the studies I cited were conducted by the FRC, based on my choice to post a summary BY the FRC about the one study.... When I linked the actual articles and sourced them (from two different universities) from the beginning.

 

[Vox]

They support bad science when bad science tells them their lifestyle choices are great.

What the studies show is that the APA deliberately misrepresents their studies, and uses junk *science*. The studies they have promoted that claim there's no difference between homosexual couples and hetero couples actually compared homosexual couples/parents to SINGLE MOTHERS and didn't make the distinction. They didn't compare homosexual couples to hetero couples.

But they PRETENDED they did, and trusted the ignorance of their drooling acolytes to carry them along. As they did.

yep, there is also a big difference between homosexual parenting and lesbian parenting.

as there is an absolutely different mechanisms and correlations in the options of being a lesbian and being homosexual male.

same is pertinent for the transsexual problem - that one is even more apart from the others.

But making it all the same agenda driven idiocy results in the obscuring the real problems and real issues which people of all shapes are encountering.

 

[Vox]

It's sort of akin to bode and jake (recognized by all posters on both sides of the aisle as the two most patently dishonest and inherently stupid participants on the site) PRETENDING the studies I cited were conducted by the FRC, based on my choice to post a summary BY the FRC about the one study.... When I linked the actual articles and sourced them (from two different universities) from the beginning.

oh, jake is just a mouthpiece and very ignorant.

Bode has an agenda because of who she is and I can understand her defending it, from the psychological standpoint.

It is one of the most interesting areas of human behavior and it would be much better for all of the humankind it the flaming would be cooled down.