Alabama SC orders judges to stop issuing homosexuals "marriage" licenses.

Sarcasm doesn't help your position. The definition of a marriage is simply defined as "A contract between a man and a woman.

That's your definition.

Race, nor color have anything to do with it

You can send your letter of thanks to the United States Supreme Court. Before they ruled that marriage is a fundamental right protected by the constitution race did indeed have something to do with it.

Stick to the fight for equality in the right to contract a civil union.

Because "separate but equal" has always been so equal....

Thank you for admitting that the "right to marry" is based on a Supreme Court opinion, not the Constitution. We could start a movement of awareness across this country, you and I.

Yes, there is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law. Marriage is a purely private Act that is Only commuted public for full faith and credit purposes.

State jurisdiction over marriage should be considered legal fiction, and void from Inception.
 
Sarcasm doesn't help your position. The definition of a marriage is simply defined as "A contract between a man and a woman.

That's your definition.

Race, nor color have anything to do with it

You can send your letter of thanks to the United States Supreme Court. Before they ruled that marriage is a fundamental right protected by the constitution race did indeed have something to do with it.

Stick to the fight for equality in the right to contract a civil union.

Because "separate but equal" has always been so equal....

Thank you for admitting that the "right to marry" is based on a Supreme Court opinion, not the Constitution. We could start a movement of awareness across this country, you and I.

Yes, there is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law. Marriage is a purely private Act that is Only commuted public for full faith and credit purposes.

State jurisdiction over marriage should be considered legal fiction, and void from Inception.
Nonsense. The right of states to regulate marriage is implicit in the 10th Amendment. What's fiction is the insanely stupid idea that marriage is "purely private act". It's a social institution that bears on our laws, our courts, inheritance, and other legal rights. So since it is an institution that requires regulation for its legal facets and the Constitution doesn't grant that power to the federal government, by default it belongs to the states.

But by all means, keep flaunting your "ignorance of the law".
 
Sarcasm doesn't help your position. The definition of a marriage is simply defined as "A contract between a man and a woman.

That's your definition.

Race, nor color have anything to do with it

You can send your letter of thanks to the United States Supreme Court. Before they ruled that marriage is a fundamental right protected by the constitution race did indeed have something to do with it.

Stick to the fight for equality in the right to contract a civil union.

Because "separate but equal" has always been so equal....

Thank you for admitting that the "right to marry" is based on a Supreme Court opinion, not the Constitution. We could start a movement of awareness across this country, you and I.

Yes, there is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law. Marriage is a purely private Act that is Only commuted public for full faith and credit purposes.

State jurisdiction over marriage should be considered legal fiction, and void from Inception.
Nonsense. The right of states to regulate marriage is implicit in the 10th Amendment. What's fiction is the insanely stupid idea that marriage is "purely private act". It's a social institution that bears on our laws, our courts, inheritance, and other legal rights. So since it is an institution that requires regulation for its legal facets and the Constitution doesn't grant that power to the federal government, by default it belongs to the states.

But by all means, keep flaunting your "ignorance of the law".

We also have a Ninth Amendment and its State equivalents under our Constitutional form of government. :p
 
Sarcasm doesn't help your position. The definition of a marriage is simply defined as "A contract between a man and a woman.

That's your definition.

Race, nor color have anything to do with it

You can send your letter of thanks to the United States Supreme Court. Before they ruled that marriage is a fundamental right protected by the constitution race did indeed have something to do with it.

Stick to the fight for equality in the right to contract a civil union.

Because "separate but equal" has always been so equal....
No, its not my definition, it is the set definition as far back as 1755, which is the oldest printed English dictionary that I have been able to obtain, or know exists.
As for thanking YOUR SCOTUS, I give no thanks or respect to that body, once I became aware of its contradictory rendered opinions, and that some were rendered with based on assumptions, rather than YOUR 1787/1789 U.S. CONstitution, as well as basing opinions on a specific Article within the Articles of Confederation to suit its political desires, while ignoring the other Articles, as if one still holds authority while the rest do not. No I thank that body of politically charged appointees for nothing, but offer condemnation for their rebellion to that which they swear to uphold.
 
Thank you for admitting that the "right to marry" is based on a Supreme Court opinion, not the Constitution. We could start a movement of awareness across this country, you and I.

By that reasoning, the individual's right to bear arms is based on a Supreme Court opinion (Heller).
No the right to bear arms predates the SCOTUS and YOUR 1787/1789 U.S. CONstitution. The wording is....
The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
This recognizes a pre-existing right.
It does NOT state that ....We give you the right under this CONstitution.
It states THE RIGHT.
 
Sarcasm doesn't help your position. The definition of a marriage is simply defined as "A contract between a man and a woman.

That's your definition.

Race, nor color have anything to do with it

You can send your letter of thanks to the United States Supreme Court. Before they ruled that marriage is a fundamental right protected by the constitution race did indeed have something to do with it.

Stick to the fight for equality in the right to contract a civil union.

Because "separate but equal" has always been so equal....
No, its not my definition, it is the set definition as far back as 1755, which is the oldest printed English dictionary that I have been able to obtain, or know exists.
As for thanking YOUR SCOTUS, I give no thanks or respect to that body, once I became aware of its contradictory rendered opinions, and that some were rendered with based on assumptions, rather than YOUR 1787/1789 U.S. CONstitution, as well as basing opinions on a specific Article within the Articles of Confederation to suit its political desires, while ignoring the other Articles, as if one still holds authority while the rest do not. No I thank that body of politically charged appointees for nothing, but offer condemnation for their rebellion to that which they swear to uphold.
It is a form of class warfare; in the past only the wealthiest could afford to get "married" due to some "means" test such a dowry. Freedom of association and contract is a natural right.
 
And in more than 30 states, Canada and multiple countries in Europe- it is also the joining of one man and one man, or one woman and one woman.

Progress is a lovely thing.

Boy lovers everywhere are thanking you for their soon to come day in court. Their perversion will receive the same protection as yours.

I am sure you believe that 'boy lovers' are thanking the Lovings for being the first to open the door to your slippery slope to 'boy love'.

By your logic, your perversion- a mixed race marriage- was the start of the slippery slope to hell.

Wrong. LVV was about race, which the Constitution addresses. No, you perverts are the first to make lifestyle choice and sexual deviancy a protected status. They will definitely be benefiting from your perversion, not from LVV.

The Constitution doesn't address race directly at all.

This is the uncomfortable fact that you bigots don't want to admit.

Every slippery slope argument strawman you throw out against homosexual marriage- if it were true- would also apply to Loving v. Virginia.

You and your wife are every much perverts to those bigots who opposed mixed race marriage as you bigots think homosexuals are.

Welcome to the slippery slope- if it is real- then your wife and you are going to be responsible for all of the 'boy lovin' that you predict.

The homosexuals perception has no credibility. Our country

What is your country- the country of bigots? Russia? Nigeria?
 
The Constitution doesn't address race directly at all.

Wrong, Tweedle-dumbass. Read the 15th Amendment. No wonder you suck at this.

LOL- you are right- I was wrong.

Shouldn't have had that second glass of red wine.

Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

What I should have said is that the Constitution does not prohibit legal discrimination based upon race.

What the Constitution- specifically the 14th Amendment- says- is

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

And that says nothing about race. And the 15th Amendment is only in regards to voting- not really an issue when it comes to marriage law.

Oh, so illegal alien criminals aka... felon fags, need not apply for marriage?

-Geaux

How do you even imagine that has any relation to my post?
 
Do you support Colorado's legalization of marijuana?

Yes I do, however that has nothing to do with this.

You heard me correctly, it has nothing to do with this.

No, that marijuana is prohibited by federal statute does not make the issue have anything to do with this. They are entirely different circumstances. They are entirely different legal scenarios. Colorado is a case of state statute has removed a barrier that still exists in federal statute. That is entirely different than a state enforcing a law that has been found unconstitutional by the federal judiciary.

There will be no further discussion on this matter. If you cannot understand all this, then you a fucking idiot unworthy of my time.

I see, a coward that runs when confronted with the truth. If you can't understand that, you're not worthy of the time as cowards deserve the same fate as traitors.

Who is comparing anything?

I am just stating the facts:

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

In this case, indeed they are

-Geaux

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

Again, you keep comparing homosexual marriage to the civil rights movement. Again, no comparison

-Geaux

I keep pointing out the facts- the facts which you want to ignore.

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight
Do you support Colorado's legalization of marijuana?

Yes I do, however that has nothing to do with this.

You heard me correctly, it has nothing to do with this.

No, that marijuana is prohibited by federal statute does not make the issue have anything to do with this. They are entirely different circumstances. They are entirely different legal scenarios. Colorado is a case of state statute has removed a barrier that still exists in federal statute. That is entirely different than a state enforcing a law that has been found unconstitutional by the federal judiciary.

There will be no further discussion on this matter. If you cannot understand all this, then you a fucking idiot unworthy of my time.

I see, a coward that runs when confronted with the truth. If you can't understand that, you're not worthy of the time as cowards deserve the same fate as traitors.

Who is comparing anything?

I am just stating the facts:

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

In this case, indeed they are

-Geaux

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

Again, you keep comparing homosexual marriage to the civil rights movement. Again, no comparison

-Geaux

I keep pointing out the facts- the facts which you want to ignore.

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight
Yeah, and Boston Massachusetts thought they were fighting the good fight when long after schools in Alabama were desegregated Boston was still fighting to prevent it there, Beating black children , spitting on them and throwing bricks through the school bus windows screaming GO HOME NI%$#R.....

Well thanks for that information about Boston.

Meanwhile:

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight
 
Okay I will restate it- you said you would support a mixed race marriage as long as one is male and one is female.

Would you support a brother sister marriage where one is male and one is female?

From a personal standpoint, no. However, the argument from you same sex supporters isn't from a personal standpoint. The ones of you that argue marriage should be allowed for two consenting adults based on the concept of equality are the same ones, when asked about a brother/sister marriage, to deny the concept of equality you claim exists. It's easy to tell you aren't about equality but about a faggot agenda. If you're not willing to apply the concept of equality you says exists to other types of marriages involving consenting adults, it makes you a hypocrite.
It's easy to tell you're hateful, ignorant, and wrong.

Comparing same-sex couples to siblings fails as both a false comparison fallacy and a slippery slope fallacy – so your 'argument' is dead from the outset.

Same-sex couples are currently eligible to marry, they can enter into marriage contracts because the law is written to accommodate two consenting adult partners who are not related.

Siblings are not eligible to enter into marriage contracts because the law isn't written to accommodate such a union; indeed, no law exists to accommodate such a union.

Consequently, there's no 'hypocrisy' on the part of those who advocate for gay Americans being afforded equal protection of the law, as required by the 14th Amendment.
Run along and support your faggot loving agenda somewhere else freak.

Anyone who uses the term 'f*ggot' is no different from the racists who call blacks n*ggers or Jews k*kes or the misanthropes who call women c*nts.

Run along and join up with your bigot pals you pathetic POS.
Interesting that you complained about that other person for language then your last words were to call him/her a POS. Kind of hypocritical, don't you think?

No.
 
Sarcasm doesn't help your position. The definition of a marriage is simply defined as "A contract between a man and a woman.

That's your definition.

Race, nor color have anything to do with it

You can send your letter of thanks to the United States Supreme Court. Before they ruled that marriage is a fundamental right protected by the constitution race did indeed have something to do with it.

Stick to the fight for equality in the right to contract a civil union.

Because "separate but equal" has always been so equal....

Thank you for admitting that the "right to marry" is based on a Supreme Court opinion, not the Constitution. We could start a movement of awareness across this country, you and I.

Yes, there is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law. Marriage is a purely private Act that is Only commuted public for full faith and credit purposes.

State jurisdiction over marriage should be considered legal fiction, and void from Inception.
Nonsense. The right of states to regulate marriage is implicit in the 10th Amendment. What's fiction is the insanely stupid idea that marriage is "purely private act". It's a social institution that bears on our laws, our courts, inheritance, and other legal rights. So since it is an institution that requires regulation for its legal facets and the Constitution doesn't grant that power to the federal government, by default it belongs to the states.

But by all means, keep flaunting your "ignorance of the law".

We also have a Ninth Amendment and its State equivalents under our Constitutional form of government. :p

The 9th Amendment does not support homo marriage.
 
LOL- you are right- I was wrong.

Shouldn't have had that second glass of red wine.

Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

What I should have said is that the Constitution does not prohibit legal discrimination based upon race.

What the Constitution- specifically the 14th Amendment- says- is

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
That is interesting considering a convicted felon may be denied the right to vote or posses a firearm even after he is released from prison, yet may marry while still in prison.
And that says nothing about race. And the 15th Amendment is only in regards to voting- not really an issue when it comes to marriage law.

Oh, so illegal alien criminals aka... felon fags, need not apply for marriage?

-Geaux

Funny you should mention felons, bigot. There was actually a Supreme Court case about marriage and the incarcerated. The case was Turner v Safley and it was one of the cases where the SCOTUS declared marriage a fundamental right. A right you cannot deny a convicted murderer on death row.

A right you cannot deny non familial consenting adult gay and lesbian couples.

Sure they can....if they're not US citizens

-Geaux

I doubt even that would hold true. A prison trying to prevent a non citizen that is incarcerated from marrying would find itself afoul of the law I'm sure.
That is interesting considering a convicted felon may be denied the right to vote or posses a firearm even after he is released from prison, yet while in prison may marry.

I have never understood why convicted felons have their right to vote taken away, nor do I understand how States can justify it.

In order to justify denying a person a right, a State must be able to provide a compelling State interest that is accomplished by denying that right. I don't know the court cases regarding ex-felons and voting, or ex-felons and gun ownership but I suspect that the States have made a sufficient argument that there is a rational safety basis for denying ex-felons gun ownership- but voting? I can't think of any state interest that is achieved by denying ex-felons the vote.
 
Do you support Colorado's legalization of marijuana?

Yes I do, however that has nothing to do with this.

You heard me correctly, it has nothing to do with this.

No, that marijuana is prohibited by federal statute does not make the issue have anything to do with this. They are entirely different circumstances. They are entirely different legal scenarios. Colorado is a case of state statute has removed a barrier that still exists in federal statute. That is entirely different than a state enforcing a law that has been found unconstitutional by the federal judiciary.

There will be no further discussion on this matter. If you cannot understand all this, then you a fucking idiot unworthy of my time.

I see, a coward that runs when confronted with the truth. If you can't understand that, you're not worthy of the time as cowards deserve the same fate as traitors.

In this case, indeed they are

-Geaux

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

Again, you keep comparing homosexual marriage to the civil rights movement. Again, no comparison

-Geaux

I keep pointing out the facts- the facts which you want to ignore.

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight
Do you support Colorado's legalization of marijuana?

Yes I do, however that has nothing to do with this.

You heard me correctly, it has nothing to do with this.

No, that marijuana is prohibited by federal statute does not make the issue have anything to do with this. They are entirely different circumstances. They are entirely different legal scenarios. Colorado is a case of state statute has removed a barrier that still exists in federal statute. That is entirely different than a state enforcing a law that has been found unconstitutional by the federal judiciary.

There will be no further discussion on this matter. If you cannot understand all this, then you a fucking idiot unworthy of my time.

I see, a coward that runs when confronted with the truth. If you can't understand that, you're not worthy of the time as cowards deserve the same fate as traitors.

In this case, indeed they are

-Geaux

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

Again, you keep comparing homosexual marriage to the civil rights movement. Again, no comparison

-Geaux

I keep pointing out the facts- the facts which you want to ignore.

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight
Yeah, and Boston Massachusetts thought they were fighting the good fight when long after schools in Alabama were desegregated Boston was still fighting to prevent it there, Beating black children , spitting on them and throwing bricks through the school bus windows screaming GO HOME NI%$#R.....

Well thanks for that information about Boston.

Meanwhile:

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

Yes, keep comparing sexual perversion to race. I'm sure somebody out there will believe there's a connection.
 
Oh, so illegal alien criminals aka... felon fags, need not apply for marriage?

-Geaux

Funny you should mention felons, bigot. There was actually a Supreme Court case about marriage and the incarcerated. The case was Turner v Safley and it was one of the cases where the SCOTUS declared marriage a fundamental right. A right you cannot deny a convicted murderer on death row.

A right you cannot deny non familial consenting adult gay and lesbian couples.

Sure they can....if they're not US citizens

-Geaux

I doubt even that would hold true. A prison trying to prevent a non citizen that is incarcerated from marrying would find itself afoul of the law I'm sure.
That is interesting considering a convicted felon may be denied the right to vote or posses a firearm even after he is released from prison, yet while in prison may marry.

I have never understood why convicted felons have their right to vote taken away, nor do I understand how States can justify it.

In order to justify denying a person a right, a State must be able to provide a compelling State interest that is accomplished by denying that right. I don't know the court cases regarding ex-felons and voting, or ex-felons and gun ownership but I suspect that the States have made a sufficient argument that there is a rational safety basis for denying ex-felons gun ownership- but voting? I can't think of any state interest that is achieved by denying ex-felons the vote.

That's debatable. Here in Idaho, the right to vote is restored once all probation and parole requirements have been satisfied, so every state is different. My feeling is, if ANYONE is paying taxes and is affected by the laws passed by legislatures and Congress, they have the right to have a say in it.
 
I assume that you are referring to Cooper v Brown? The problem that you have is that the 14th amendment does not apply concerning a States Jurisdiction in the traditional and set legal definition of a marriage which is a simple contract between a man and a woman.

Says you. Your entire argument is just you arbitrarily declaring that whatever your personal opinion is binds the USSC. Um, no...it doesn't. The 14th amendment includes none of the restrictions you just pulled out of your ass.

Issues of interpretation of the constitution are the court's to decide. And the courts have already recognized that state marriage laws that violate individual rights falls cleanly within their jurisdiction. As the 14th amendment prevents unequal protection and the violation of privileges and immunities of US citizens. There's not caveat of 'expect as it relates to marriage'.

You made that up. And your imagination binds the courts in no way.

Cooper v Brown was about race, and the denial of equal protection based on race. Sodomite is not a race, and they sodomite has the equal right as an individual to contract, but not to redefine a traditional and set legal definition of a marriage. In such case wherein the SCOTUS upholds such, then it is the SCOTUS once again as in many times in the past been at war and rebellion to the lawful authority of YOUR U.S. Constitution.

You say that cases involving race can't be cited when discussing the the rights of gays. The USSC against contradicts you, having cited race based cases 4 times between Romer v. Evans and Windsor v. US when describing why the rights of gays can't be violated.

You say race cases can't be cited. The USSC has cited race cases at least 4 times. You're simply wrong.

Sigh....again.

And your arbitrary declaration that any actions that the USSC takes that YOU disagree with is being 'at war and rebellion of the constitution' is more meaningless gibberish. As you're nobody. And your personal opinion isn't what we base our constitution on.
 
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You are absolutely correct- the Constitution protects the rights of both the minority and the majority.

And the judiciary is the branch that resolves whether the law is Constitutional or not.
Perhaps this is the point in which we should return to the basics of the contention.
The question is not that of equal rights, as the Sodomite .

You keep using that word.
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'Sodomite' means anyone who has anal sex.

So it would apply to heterosexuals who have anal sex and those homosexuals who have anal sex.

It would not apply to heterosexuals who do not have anal sex and would not apply to homosexuals who do not have anal sex.

Are you saying that heterosexuals who have anal sex cannot get married and lesbian couples can?
Yes a sodomite is anyone who practices sodomy, however a marriage is consummated through sexual relations, and here is where sodomy is exclusive between same sex couples making them sodomites without recourse otherwize. I hate that the proper definition is offensive to you, it is not meant as a slur, it is only meant to use the proper definition as "Gay" does not actually mean sodomite outside of fiction. There is no such word as homosexual as in .

Sodomite: someone who engages in anal sex- regardless of who they engage in anal sex with.
Homosexual: someone who is attracted to the same gender.
Marriage- a joining of a man or a woman, or a joining a man and a man or a woman and a woman.

Those are all the proper definitions.

Not your made up fantasy definitions.

If you want to refer to the marriage of two people of the same gender- then the proper term would be some variation of 'homosexual' or 'gay' or 'same gender' marriage.

Your insistance of using the term 'sodomite' as your own personal definition means nothing.

And I will point out the correct term by mocking your misuse of 'sodomite' each time you do it in the future.
The true definition of marriage as found as early as 1755 in Johnson's dictionary of the English language, is that a marriage is a contract between a man and a woman, NOT a man and a man or a woman and a woman. You simply wish to pervert it to meet your desires. Sodomite is the correct word for those who wish to hijack the word marriage because in order to consummate a marriage the must engauge in sexual entercourse, which requires for them the act of sodomy. It is not my intent to offend you by using the proper terminology, but one must call a dog, a dog, not a cat in order to use the proper terminology. Such proper use of words by proper definition should not offend your tender sensibilities.

You can use whatever fantasy definitions you want- but it is hypocritical of you to both demand the use of an obsolete version of the definition of marriage- while at the same time you ignore both the historic and current definition of the term 'sodomite'

Far from using the 'proper terminology'- you just use your own definitions

Sodomite: someone who engages in anal sex- regardless of who they engage in anal sex with.
Homosexual: someone who is attracted to the same gender.
Marriage- a joining of a man or a woman, or a joining a man and a man or a woman and a woman.


Those are all the proper definitions.

Not your made up fantasy definitions.

If you want to refer to the marriage of two people of the same gender- then the proper term would be some variation of 'homosexual' or 'gay' or 'same gender' marriage.

Your insistence of using the term 'sodomite' as your own personal definition means nothing.

And I will point out the correct term by mocking your misuse of 'sodomite' each time you do it in the future.
 
Yes I do, however that has nothing to do with this.

You heard me correctly, it has nothing to do with this.

No, that marijuana is prohibited by federal statute does not make the issue have anything to do with this. They are entirely different circumstances. They are entirely different legal scenarios. Colorado is a case of state statute has removed a barrier that still exists in federal statute. That is entirely different than a state enforcing a law that has been found unconstitutional by the federal judiciary.

There will be no further discussion on this matter. If you cannot understand all this, then you a fucking idiot unworthy of my time.

I see, a coward that runs when confronted with the truth. If you can't understand that, you're not worthy of the time as cowards deserve the same fate as traitors.

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

Again, you keep comparing homosexual marriage to the civil rights movement. Again, no comparison

-Geaux

I keep pointing out the facts- the facts which you want to ignore.

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight
Yes I do, however that has nothing to do with this.

You heard me correctly, it has nothing to do with this.

No, that marijuana is prohibited by federal statute does not make the issue have anything to do with this. They are entirely different circumstances. They are entirely different legal scenarios. Colorado is a case of state statute has removed a barrier that still exists in federal statute. That is entirely different than a state enforcing a law that has been found unconstitutional by the federal judiciary.

There will be no further discussion on this matter. If you cannot understand all this, then you a fucking idiot unworthy of my time.

I see, a coward that runs when confronted with the truth. If you can't understand that, you're not worthy of the time as cowards deserve the same fate as traitors.

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

Again, you keep comparing homosexual marriage to the civil rights movement. Again, no comparison

-Geaux

I keep pointing out the facts- the facts which you want to ignore.

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight
Yeah, and Boston Massachusetts thought they were fighting the good fight when long after schools in Alabama were desegregated Boston was still fighting to prevent it there, Beating black children , spitting on them and throwing bricks through the school bus windows screaming GO HOME NI%$#R.....

Well thanks for that information about Boston.

Meanwhile:

I am sure Alabamans always feel like they are fighting the good fight- just like before

Yep- Alabama- which didn't legalize mixed race marriages until 2000- 23 years after the Supreme Court said that State laws against mixed race marriages were unconstitutional.

Alabama- always fighting the good fight

Yes, keep comparing sexual perversion to race. I'm sure somebody out there will believe there's a connection.

Uhhmmm...whites in America have compared sexual perversion to race for the last 200 years...you do know that...don't you???
 
You are absolutely correct- the Constitution protects the rights of both the minority and the majority.

And the judiciary is the branch that resolves whether the law is Constitutional or not.
Perhaps this is the point in which we should return to the basics of the contention.
The question is not that of equal rights, as the Sodomite .

You keep using that word.
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'Sodomite' means anyone who has anal sex.

So it would apply to heterosexuals who have anal sex and those homosexuals who have anal sex.

It would not apply to heterosexuals who do not have anal sex and would not apply to homosexuals who do not have anal sex.

Are you saying that heterosexuals who have anal sex cannot get married and lesbian couples can?
Yes a sodomite is anyone who practices sodomy, however a marriage is consummated through sexual relations, and here is where sodomy is exclusive between same sex couples making them sodomites without recourse otherwize. I hate that the proper definition is offensive to you, it is not meant as a slur, it is only meant to use the proper definition as "Gay" does not actually mean sodomite outside of fiction. There is no such word as homosexual as in .

Sodomite: someone who engages in anal sex- regardless of who they engage in anal sex with.
Homosexual: someone who is attracted to the same gender.
Marriage- a joining of a man or a woman, or a joining a man and a man or a woman and a woman.

Those are all the proper definitions.

Not your made up fantasy definitions.

If you want to refer to the marriage of two people of the same gender- then the proper term would be some variation of 'homosexual' or 'gay' or 'same gender' marriage.

Your insistance of using the term 'sodomite' as your own personal definition means nothing.

And I will point out the correct term by mocking your misuse of 'sodomite' each time you do it in the future.
Also....
Ho•mo
(ˈhoʊ moʊ)

n., pl. -mos.
1.
(italics) the genus of bipedal primates that includes modern humans and several extinct forms, as H. erectus and H. habilis,distinguished by their large brains and a dependence on tools.
Such is simply placing a more softening usage for the offended when hearing the true definition. Sodomite goes back to Sodom and Gomorrah wherein such was practiced.
I simply choose to use what is the proper term for such. Again, it is not meant as a slur.
Gender has to do with the grouping together of words, not the sex of an individual, therefore "Same gender marriage in double incorrect.
Gay means happy, NOT all Sodomites are always happy, therefore again you fail. The only proper label is sodomite.

Once again- you are just creating your own definitions- and then complain that homosexuals are not using your definition of marriage.

You do not use the 'proper term' - you use your own invented terms.

Sodomite: someone who engages in anal sex- regardless of who they engage in anal sex with.
Homosexual: someone who is attracted to the same gender.
Marriage- a joining of a man or a woman, or a joining a man and a man or a woman and a woman.

Those are all the proper definitions.

Not your made up fantasy definitions.

If you want to refer to the marriage of two people of the same gender- then the proper term would be some variation of 'homosexual' or 'gay' or 'same gender' marriage.

Your insistance of using the term 'sodomite' as your own personal definition means nothing.

And I will point out the correct term by mocking your misuse of 'sodomite' each time you do it in the future.
 
Funny you should mention felons, bigot. There was actually a Supreme Court case about marriage and the incarcerated. The case was Turner v Safley and it was one of the cases where the SCOTUS declared marriage a fundamental right. A right you cannot deny a convicted murderer on death row.

A right you cannot deny non familial consenting adult gay and lesbian couples.

Sure they can....if they're not US citizens

-Geaux

I doubt even that would hold true. A prison trying to prevent a non citizen that is incarcerated from marrying would find itself afoul of the law I'm sure.
That is interesting considering a convicted felon may be denied the right to vote or posses a firearm even after he is released from prison, yet while in prison may marry.

Indeed. One might even say that the right to marry is, seemingly, an even greater right than voting or possessing firearms.

Marriage is a right despite what the anti gay bigots say.
Marriage is a right between a man and a woman, as that is the true definition of a marriage. The issue is not changing the definition of marriage to mean what some minority wishes, by claiming discrimination. The issue is the right to contract, as in a civil union between a man and a man, or a woman and a woman, and that contract be recognised by law.

Not one of the Supreme Court decisions regarding marriage agrees with you.

And as I have pointed out- the very same Alabama law that prohibits 'gay marriage' prohibits 'civil unions'.

Americans have a right to marriage- we have no right to 'civil unions'
 

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