CrusaderFrank
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Republicans let another Moderate candidate drag us down nationally
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If it was just "entertainment" it had a major impact on the political scene. The massive swing of single women away from the Republican Party was a significant event. To think that Rush Limbaugh and the reaction of the extreme right had no impact on that swing is short sighted
To think it was apolitical flub by the actual party is stupid... it was sensationalized shit from the entertainment media that steered it in the direction it went... thanks to hacks like yourself
You put it as 'political lowlights', when it was not done by the politicians (except the Romney 47%)...
You and your ilk put more into Rush etc than the politicians or the 'righties' do
Got Ilk?
Got Ilk?
The got milk? With Malcolm McDowell is better.
Haven't seen it. Is it A Clockwork Orange Esque' ?
Republicans let another Moderate candidate drag us down nationally
He says the things candidates are not allowed to say and fires up the extreme right of the party. If Republicans allowed him to exist and basically ignored him they could take the high ground
But when they clamor to appear on his show they lose that moral high ground. You can't have Rush calling young women sluts and offending blacks one week and then have all the top Republicans appearing on his show the next
Republicans let another Moderate candidate drag us down nationally
I listen to Rush sparingly when i feel like and i'm running an errand or something. One thing i've noticed is that he doesn't really do interviews on his show. He'll take calls from listeners but i've never heard him do an interview of a congressman, senator, etc on his show before.
I have to admit, I hear fewer interviews too. I think he's been tapering off since he started having hearing loss. In the Bush years, he'd get calls from Rove and Cheney all the time.
I could probably make the same point by sidestepping over to Hannity, as he seems to be the new go to guy for appearances on Fox and his radio program, and he's just as bombastic.
The republicans are not gonna run another moderate next time after getting smashed twice in a row.....
I have to admit, I hear fewer interviews too. I think he's been tapering off since he started having hearing loss. In the Bush years, he'd get calls from Rove and Cheney all the time.
I could probably make the same point by sidestepping over to Hannity, as he seems to be the new go to guy for appearances on Fox and his radio program, and he's just as bombastic.
Considering that the overwhelming majority of media these days is left to heavily left leaning, it doesn't surprise me why Hannity/Rush are seen as extreme while Mathews, Schultz, Maddow aren't. They're opposite sides of the coin.
Republicans let another Moderate candidate drag us down nationally
Republicans let another Moderate candidate drag us down nationally
That's right!
If only Romney had taken on the moochers/sluts/nonbirfers/babykillingrapevictims even harder, he would have won!
If it was just "entertainment" it had a major impact on the political scene. The massive swing of single women away from the Republican Party was a significant event. To think that Rush Limbaugh and the reaction of the extreme right had no impact on that swing is short sighted
To think it was apolitical flub by the actual party is stupid... it was sensationalized shit from the entertainment media that steered it in the direction it went... thanks to hacks like yourself
You put it as 'political lowlights', when it was not done by the politicians (except the Romney 47%)...
You and your ilk put more into Rush etc than the politicians or the 'righties' do
Rush Limbaugh is a key member of the propaganda arm of the Republican Party. He gets to say all the things that actual politicians are not allowed to say...then they get to disavow what he has said
This case was much worse because of the sheer nastiness of attacks on Fluke
Even Republicans were astonished and Rush was forced to apologize
But it is like unbreaking an egg. Young single women were appalled by the three day attack on Fluke and it turned them against the Republicans
It was a major political blunder by Republicans in 2012
Trump, Clint, having a stand against what Fluke wanted (even if an ENTERTAINER like Rush said stupid stuff) are not really 'political blunders'
The problem is that entertainers like Rush and Trump are getting too much prominence inside the GOP. Is there a legitimate question to be debated in the whole birth control debate? Yes. But you pretty much auto-lose when you bust out words like slut.
That's pretty much what happened with the 47% comment. I think it's accurate that there is 47% or so of the vote Romney was never going to get. There's about that same percentage Obama isn't going to get either. The difference is that Romney called those folks freeloaders, deadbeats, etc, and somewhat implied the absolute worse about them. Obama just didn't talk about those guys in this campaign after nearly shooting himself in the foot with his comment in 2008.
Even in math, you can give an answer that is completely right, and still be absolutely wrong. Until the GOP figures out that you're not going to win over anyone by calling the folks that are unconvinced morons, or calling women sluts, or saying 47% of the population are freeloaders, they're going to just sit things out.
You all desperately need a Reagan. A guy who can talk about the rational beliefs Conservatives have with having to stoop to calling his opponents names to try to score a few votes. That approach has been pretty much repudiated by voters after the Rove years.
2012 started with so much promise for the GOP. It was going to be a year when they took control of the White House and Senate. A year when they would kill Obamacare. A year when they would continue their assault on gay rights
What happened?
Against a vulnerable candidate they ran the worst field of Presidential candidates in a generation. They tied up their only credible candidate in an endless primary with endless debates only to pick the guy everyone knew would win anyway. They forced their candidate to pander to the mega rich and social conservatives. They attacked 47% of Americans. They ended up losing 323 to 206
Only having to defend 10 GOP seats, they had a clear path to taking the Senate. The 23 Democrats were vulnerable. They drove away Olympia Snowe and Richard Lugar. They ran candidates who supported banning abortion for rape. They tried to buy elections. They ended up losing two Senate seats rather than winning seats and have jeopardized their chances of taking the Senate in 2014
Republicans were cocky about killing Obamacare. The Conservative stacked Supreme Court would gut the bill, President Romney would do the rest. Justice Roberts ended up saying he would not bear the burden as the man who killed universal healthcare and sided with the liberals. Romney was soundly defeated Obamacare is here to stay
Republicans knew that voters would never vote for gay marriage and pushed for state legislation for an up or down vote. For the first time, voters supported the rights of gays to marry
Yes, 2012 was a bad year for Republicans
2012 started with so much promise for the GOP. It was going to be a year when they took control of the White House and Senate. A year when they would kill Obamacare. A year when they would continue their assault on gay rights
What happened?
Against a vulnerable candidate they ran the worst field of Presidential candidates in a generation. They tied up their only credible candidate in an endless primary with endless debates only to pick the guy everyone knew would win anyway. They forced their candidate to pander to the mega rich and social conservatives. They attacked 47% of Americans. They ended up losing 323 to 206
Only having to defend 10 GOP seats, they had a clear path to taking the Senate. The 23 Democrats were vulnerable. They drove away Olympia Snowe and Richard Lugar. They ran candidates who supported banning abortion for rape. They tried to buy elections. They ended up losing two Senate seats rather than winning seats and have jeopardized their chances of taking the Senate in 2014
Republicans were cocky about killing Obamacare. The Conservative stacked Supreme Court would gut the bill, President Romney would do the rest. Justice Roberts ended up saying he would not bear the burden as the man who killed universal healthcare and sided with the liberals. Romney was soundly defeated Obamacare is here to stay
Republicans knew that voters would never vote for gay marriage and pushed for state legislation for an up or down vote. For the first time, voters supported the rights of gays to marry
Yes, 2012 was a bad year for Republicans
Yet the public saw fit to reelect a republican controlled house to keep checks and balances on a democratic administration. And that is exactly what they are doing. So where does the power really lie?
2012 started with so much promise for the GOP. It was going to be a year when they took control of the White House and Senate. A year when they would kill Obamacare. A year when they would continue their assault on gay rights
What happened?
Against a vulnerable candidate they ran the worst field of Presidential candidates in a generation. They tied up their only credible candidate in an endless primary with endless debates only to pick the guy everyone knew would win anyway. They forced their candidate to pander to the mega rich and social conservatives. They attacked 47% of Americans. They ended up losing 323 to 206
Only having to defend 10 GOP seats, they had a clear path to taking the Senate. The 23 Democrats were vulnerable. They drove away Olympia Snowe and Richard Lugar. They ran candidates who supported banning abortion for rape. They tried to buy elections. They ended up losing two Senate seats rather than winning seats and have jeopardized their chances of taking the Senate in 2014
Republicans were cocky about killing Obamacare. The Conservative stacked Supreme Court would gut the bill, President Romney would do the rest. Justice Roberts ended up saying he would not bear the burden as the man who killed universal healthcare and sided with the liberals. Romney was soundly defeated Obamacare is here to stay
Republicans knew that voters would never vote for gay marriage and pushed for state legislation for an up or down vote. For the first time, voters supported the rights of gays to marry
Yes, 2012 was a bad year for Republicans
Yet the public saw fit to reelect a republican controlled house to keep checks and balances on a democratic administration. And that is exactly what they are doing. So where does the power really lie?
I get it. You get it. They will never get it. They have a hollow victory. Unless they can do something about the House in 2014, they still won't get it.
They all do their little "victory dances" here every day, especially the nitwit rightwinger and they don't realize that they control zero without the House.
Yet the public saw fit to reelect a republican controlled house to keep checks and balances on a democratic administration. And that is exactly what they are doing. So where does the power really lie?
I get it. You get it. They will never get it. They have a hollow victory. Unless they can do something about the House in 2014, they still won't get it.
They all do their little "victory dances" here every day, especially the nitwit rightwinger and they don't realize that they control zero without the House.
For the right to pat themselves on the back for maintaining the House after they gerymandered it to save Republican districts is a laugh
In spite of their political maneuvers, they still lost eight seats in the House
To think it was apolitical flub by the actual party is stupid... it was sensationalized shit from the entertainment media that steered it in the direction it went... thanks to hacks like yourself
You put it as 'political lowlights', when it was not done by the politicians (except the Romney 47%)...
You and your ilk put more into Rush etc than the politicians or the 'righties' do
Rush Limbaugh is a key member of the propaganda arm of the Republican Party. He gets to say all the things that actual politicians are not allowed to say...then they get to disavow what he has said
This case was much worse because of the sheer nastiness of attacks on Fluke
Even Republicans were astonished and Rush was forced to apologize
But it is like unbreaking an egg. Young single women were appalled by the three day attack on Fluke and it turned them against the Republicans
It was a major political blunder by Republicans in 2012
No... you and your ilk assign that role... He is no more a key member of the republican party machine than Sean Penn is to the DEMs
The stance against Fluke were justified... he insisting that employers or groups be forced to provide something against their beliefs was flat out wrong.. and I saw NO attack by anyone within the Republican party or campaign that attacked... An ENTERTAINER attacked, much like you see various LIB entertainers doing CONSTANTLY
You mention that REPs were 'astonished' and evidently pressured Rush... yet you still attribute this to the REPs... you are indeed an idiot
You are still barking up the wrong tree... you want something on the politics of the REP party, STICK TO THE FUCKING REP PARTY, you dimwit
I get it. You get it. They will never get it. They have a hollow victory. Unless they can do something about the House in 2014, they still won't get it.
They all do their little "victory dances" here every day, especially the nitwit rightwinger and they don't realize that they control zero without the House.
For the right to pat themselves on the back for maintaining the House after they gerymandered it to save Republican districts is a laugh
In spite of their political maneuvers, they still lost eight seats in the House
And "YOU" can't get a thng done. So STFU and fuck off, crybaby sore-winner.
For the right to pat themselves on the back for maintaining the House after they gerymandered it to save Republican districts is a laugh
In spite of their political maneuvers, they still lost eight seats in the House
And "YOU" can't get a thng done. So STFU and fuck off, crybaby sore-winner.
Sad that Conservatives brag about it