All you ever wanted to know about the hijab

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[aris2chat]

it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

 

[Votto]

it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

True. Some women don't mind getting raped in Islam.

Those that don't like getting raped though will wear one.

 

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it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinnah." [Noble Quran 24:31]​

 

[aris2chat]

it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinnah." [Noble Quran 24:31]​

Cover their naked breast in avoiding improper sexual acts.
It does not mean they must hid from head to toe under a burka

 

[Votto]

it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinnah." [Noble Quran 24:31]​

Cover their naked breast in avoiding improper sexual acts.
It does not mean they must hid from head to toe under a burka

I keep trying to cover mine but it doesn't seem to help

 

[amrchaos]

it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinnah." [Noble Quran 24:31]​

Cover their naked breast in avoiding improper sexual acts.
It does not mean they must hid from head to toe under a burka

You're right

The "Power suit" does just the same and no one has critcized it!!

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

You're wrong.

 

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it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinnah." [Noble Quran 24:31]​

Cover their naked breast in avoiding improper sexual acts.
It does not mean they must hid from head to toe under a burka

Are you saying that all groups who believe muslim women should wear the hijab is misinterpreting that verse?

 

[amrchaos]

On the flip side

Wearing masks or concealing ones face is against the law in some cities--has been long before people knew what a hajib was.

Women wearing a Hajib in say GA could get ticketed or arrested, the culture argument would fail to the prevalent culture argument endorsing the law!!

 

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it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinnah." [Noble Quran 24:31]​

Cover their naked breast in avoiding improper sexual acts.
It does not mean they must hid from head to toe under a burka

The Qur an and Hijab Hijab The Muslim Womens Dress Islamic or Cultural Books on Islam and Muslims Al-Islam.org

(2) Then what does the clause “placing the khumur over the bosoms” mean?
According to the commentators of the Qur’an, the women of Medina in the pre-Islamic era used to put their khumur over the head with the two ends tucked behind and tied at the back of the neck, in the process exposing their ears and neck. By saying that, “place the khumur over the bosoms,” Almighty Allah ordered the women to let the two ends of their headgear extend onto their bosoms so that they conceal their ears, the neck, and the upper part of the bosom also.3

This is confirmed by the way the Muslim women of the Prophet’s era understood this commandment of Almighty Allah. The Sunni sources quote Ummu ’l-mu’minin ‘A’isha, the Prophet’s wife, as follows: “I have not seen women better than those of al-Ansar (the inhabitants of Medina): when this verse was revealed, all of them got hold of their aprons, tore them apart, and used them to cover their heads...”4

The meaning of khimar and the context in which the verse was revealed clearly talks about concealing the head and then using the loose ends of the scarf to conceal the neck and the bosom. It is absurd to believe that the Qur’an would use the word khimar (which, by definition, means a cloth that covers the head) only to conceal the bosom with the exclusion of the head! It would be like saying to put on your shirt only around the belly or the waist without covering the chest!​

 

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it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinnah." [Noble Quran 24:31]​

Cover their naked breast in avoiding improper sexual acts.
It does not mean they must hid from head to toe under a burka

The Qur an and Hijab Hijab The Muslim Womens Dress Islamic or Cultural Books on Islam and Muslims Al-Islam.org

What is the meaning of “jalabib”?
Jalabib جَلاَبِيْبٌ is the plural of jilbabجِلْبَابٌ , which means a loose outer garment. See any Arabic dictionary like Lisanu ’l-‘Arab, Majma‘u ’l-Bahrayn or al-Munjid.

Al-Munjid, for instance, defines jilbab as “the shirt or a wide dress—القميص أو الثوب الواسع.” While al-Turayhi, in Majma‘u ’l-Bahrayn, defines it as “a wide dress, wider than the scarf and shorter than a robe, that a woman puts upon her head and lets it down on her bosom...”5

This means that the Islamic dress code for women does not only consist of a scarf that covers the head, the neck and the bosom; it also includes the overall dress that should be long and loose.

So, for instance, the combination of a tight, short sweater with tight-fitting jeans with a scarf over the head does not fulfill the requirements of the Islamic dress code.​

 

[aris2chat]

it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinnah." [Noble Quran 24:31]​

Cover their naked breast in avoiding improper sexual acts.
It does not mean they must hid from head to toe under a burka

Are you saying that all groups who believe muslim women should wear the hijab is misinterpreting that verse?

Stop going by verse and put the chapter in context
Private parts and naked breasts
Does not mean hid from the world behind a black shroud

We don't walk around naked outside our homes. It does not mean we have to live under a tent or see the world through a piece if mesh.

 

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it is not a requirement of Islam and not ordered in the quran for all women

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinnah." [Noble Quran 24:31]​

Cover their naked breast in avoiding improper sexual acts.
It does not mean they must hid from head to toe under a burka

Are you saying that all groups who believe muslim women should wear the hijab is misinterpreting that verse?

Stop going by verse and put the chapter in context
Private parts and naked breasts
Does not mean hid from the world behind a black shroud

We don't walk around naked outside our homes. It does not mean we have to live under a tent or see the world through a piece if mesh.

Why do you feel the need to go to the extreme? You sound nervous.

 

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a scarf over the head for prayer

 

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a scarf over the head for prayer

Are you ashamed of your religion?

 

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Wait a minute. If the hijab is not required by islam (which it is) that SCOTUS case is bogus. So the SCOTUS is wrong about islam also?

 

[aris2chat]

what the 48% of muslim women who do not wear the hijab?

As for SCOTUS, “an employer may not make an applicant’s religious practice, confirmed or otherwise, a factor in employment decisions.”
It does not say anything about the hijab being required by Islam. A&F has a standard for their employees and will likely pay a settlement rather than change their dress code, or they can hire her without the hijab.

Just being a muslim was not a reason to not hire her. Muslims that won't take a customer who buys pork or alcohol, or won't serve someone with a dog, even a service dog has been a controversy as well, some win some loose. Women in the US that were niqba or burka are not permitted to drive and have to remove any face covering to take an ID photo. It does not mean women cannot drive, many do even in muslim coutries, but they can't drive with the face or body restricted by all that fabric.

Dress varies around the world for muslims, it is not set in stone as a requirement of the faith. It is more a cultural thing. A choice.

 

[amrchaos]

Hey

can I convert a Hajib into a tent for tots?

 

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what the 48% of muslim women who do not wear the hijab?

As for SCOTUS, “an employer may not make an applicant’s religious practice, confirmed or otherwise, a factor in employment decisions.”
It does not say anything about the hijab being required by Islam. A&F has a standard for their employees and will likely pay a settlement rather than change their dress code, or they can hire her without the hijab.

Just being a muslim was not a reason to not hire her. Muslims that won't take a customer who buys pork or alcohol, or won't serve someone with a dog, even a service dog has been a controversy as well, some win some loose. Women in the US that were niqba or burka are not permitted to drive and have to remove any face covering to take an ID photo. It does not mean women cannot drive, many do even in muslim coutries, but they can't drive with the face or body restricted by all that fabric.

Dress varies around the world for muslims, it is not set in stone as a requirement of the faith. It is more a cultural thing. A choice.

But it is set in stone as a requirement of the faith, set in the koran anyway. You can believe that you are still being a faithful muslim by not following that law but it is a law as stated in the koran. And one could presumably argue that they are better muslim than you are because they wear the hajib and you do not. You mighty know of some people who claim just that.

(There is an active thread in 'current events' regarding the SCOTUS decision.)