Almost 140 serious injuries to Capitol Cops

[martybegan]

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

You sure?

Or are those just the errors we heard about because it fit the Trump narrative?

How can I be sure? I haven't seen a report, or a hard investigation, or even someone calling for those.

It's just "shut up and trust us" from the very people we are accusing of gaming the system.

You can’t be sure but it didn’t stop you from believing it anyway.

It was “believe it because it’s convenient”, the type of shitty logic that pervades the Trump faithful and results in their anger.

You can trust the people who know what they’re talking about or you can trust Trump and his shitty lawyers. You’ll trust the shitty lawyers because they tell you what you want to hear, not because it’s actually true.

Why should I trust people who got what they wanted and could care less if they got it via cheating?

I want a report, a commission, and full blown investigation.

You don’t know the first thing about who these people are or what they want but it doesn’t stop you from acting like you do.

This is yet again another way to rationalize what you want to believe. It’s not factual. Not reality based. Just a mental trick to preserve your false sense of reality.

When the investigation doesn’t show what you want, you want another investigation. Oh and an investigation of the investigation. Like Benghazi. Like Crossfire Hurricane.

You ignore the questions because it suits you. Again, you got what you wanted.

I don’t ignore the question, I point out that it is based on a baseless assumption. That’s not an honest question.

Tell me that Raffensperger got what he wanted by electing Biden. Is that what you want me to believe?

The people in the local districts where people point out concerns sure as hell wanted Biden elected, and like a good lemming, Raffensperger wouldn't upset the apple cart.

Again, you don’t know anything about these “people” and just assign motive to them because that’s convenient. Same with Raffensperger.

When you allow yourself to base your reality on things that you want to be true rather than what is true, that’s when you become disconnected from reality. That’s exactly how Trump lives his life, his devout optimism about his own outcomes and that’s what happened here.

And look at how fast they turn on republicans or Fox News when they said Biden won.

Fired Fox News Editor Details ‘Murderous Rage’ Of Angry Trump Supporters

Former political chief Chris Stirewalt reveals how Trump supporters reacted to election night news.

www.huffpost.com

Both Trump and his backers were livid when Fox News called Arizona for Democratic rival Joe Biden, who would go on to win the election. Pro-Trump crowds even chanted “Fox News sucks!” as election workers counted ballots.
“When I defended the call for Biden in the Arizona election, I became a target of murderous rage from consumers who were furious at not having their views confirmed,” he wrote in a Los Angeles Times opinion piece.
The election denial that followed, he said, was “partly a cynical, knowing effort by political operators and their hype men in the media to steal an election or at least get rich trying.”
But it was also the result of cable news “indulging a consumer’s worst cravings” with the kind of content aired, especially the “self-affirming half-truths and even outright lies” that many viewers seek.

"murderous rage"

LOL, what a bunch of pansies these guys are, kind of like you, soi boi.

 

[DrLove]

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Wrong.

You are saying he won Tennessee?

If PA, Ga,MI, WI and Az were rigged why not red state Tennessee?

Gore lost due to his gun control stance causing him to lose HIS HOME STATE.

Gore lost because Jeb was governor of Florida. Butterfly ballots, hanging chads, rigged Diebold voting machines, riots to stop the recount, dead republicans voted, republicans voted twice and illegal Cuban immigrants voted for Bush

Yeah what was the margin - 500 votes or so? Thanks to the butterfly - Pat Buchanan got around ten times the number of votes he should have. That was fun.

 

[martybegan]

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Gore had a point. He wanted all ballots counted. As many as possible. He wasn’t asking Florida to throw out hundreds of thousands of ballot he didn’t like. He wasn’t telling Congress to disregard the results entirely.

He just wanted the ballots counted but ran out of time.

And in the end it was shown that he more than likely lost anyway.

Gore only wanted ballots re-counted in counties he knew he had an advantage.

That’s true. Gore should have requested a statewide recount which is what the Supreme Court of Florida ordered.

I remember vividly that the Republican stance at the time was that any recount is unnecessary because like it or not we have to go with the initial result.

And the most complete count, all counties and over and under votes resulted in a Gore win.

Gore conceded when he lost because he did it for the good of the country. He didn’t feel the need to pretend otherwise. Consider the outcome of the entire election hinged on a few hundred votes in a single state. Trump lost by tens of thousands over several states.

Got a link to those studies showing he won?

Fuck you. If you don’t know it’s because you don’t want to know.

And it’s funny that today you think what happened to gore happened to trump.

They don’t want to know.

Just look how Marty behaves here.

First he just wants to be heard.
they were heard.
Then he wants an explanation.
there was an explanation.
The explanation came from Biden supporters.
Raffensperger is a Trump supporter.
The explanation needs to come from someone else.

They keep pretending like they want a process.
They don’t want a process. They want an outcome. They want Trump to win and anything that says he didn’t win doesn’t count for some reason. Any reason. They can come up with anything to deny it.

Watch Marty come up with a reason to deny the Florida recount studies and remember that the original statement was that the studies showed Biden losing.

And you keep your head up sealy's ass because you got what you wanted, and really don't care how you got it.

 

[martybegan]

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Wrong.

You are saying he won Tennessee?

If PA, Ga,MI, WI and Az were rigged why not red state Tennessee?

Gore lost due to his gun control stance causing him to lose HIS HOME STATE.

Gore lost because Jeb was governor of Florida. Butterfly ballots, hanging chads, rigged Diebold voting machines, riots to stop the recount, dead republicans voted, republicans voted twice and illegal Cuban immigrants voted for Bush

LOL, keep up with that, cucky mc-cuckerson.

 

[colfax_m]

it's called having an opinion, something your ilk want to stop if the opinion isn't "approved"

Kind of like saying a dude with a dick is a girl, and has to be called a girl "or else"?

Yeah? And some people have the opinion that the world is flat. Doesn’t mean they’re stupid, it means they have something weird going on in their psychology that makes them believe something despite all evidence to the contrary.

They’re harmless, overall.

But it’s different here because Trump is nurturing this false beliefs to use to his advantage and it is hurting the country.

 

[colfax_m]

It’s

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Gore had a point. He wanted all ballots counted. As many as possible. He wasn’t asking Florida to throw out hundreds of thousands of ballot he didn’t like. He wasn’t telling Congress to disregard the results entirely.

He just wanted the ballots counted but ran out of time.

And in the end it was shown that he more than likely lost anyway.

Gore only wanted ballots re-counted in counties he knew he had an advantage.

That’s true. Gore should have requested a statewide recount which is what the Supreme Court of Florida ordered.

I remember vividly that the Republican stance at the time was that any recount is unnecessary because like it or not we have to go with the initial result.

And the most complete count, all counties and over and under votes resulted in a Gore win.

Gore conceded when he lost because he did it for the good of the country. He didn’t feel the need to pretend otherwise. Consider the outcome of the entire election hinged on a few hundred votes in a single state. Trump lost by tens of thousands over several states.

Got a link to those studies showing he won?

it’s well explained in the wiki page.

2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

wikipedia is a useless source for debated materials, try harder.

Wikipedia is well sourced and highly accurate.

The studies are in the references.

 

[colfax_m]

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Gore had a point. He wanted all ballots counted. As many as possible. He wasn’t asking Florida to throw out hundreds of thousands of ballot he didn’t like. He wasn’t telling Congress to disregard the results entirely.

He just wanted the ballots counted but ran out of time.

And in the end it was shown that he more than likely lost anyway.

Gore only wanted ballots re-counted in counties he knew he had an advantage.

That’s true. Gore should have requested a statewide recount which is what the Supreme Court of Florida ordered.

I remember vividly that the Republican stance at the time was that any recount is unnecessary because like it or not we have to go with the initial result.

And the most complete count, all counties and over and under votes resulted in a Gore win.

Gore conceded when he lost because he did it for the good of the country. He didn’t feel the need to pretend otherwise. Consider the outcome of the entire election hinged on a few hundred votes in a single state. Trump lost by tens of thousands over several states.

Got a link to those studies showing he won?

Fuck you. If you don’t know it’s because you don’t want to know.

And it’s funny that today you think what happened to gore happened to trump.

They don’t want to know.

Just look how Marty behaves here.

First he just wants to be heard.
they were heard.
Then he wants an explanation.
there was an explanation.
The explanation came from Biden supporters.
Raffensperger is a Trump supporter.
The explanation needs to come from someone else.

They keep pretending like they want a process.
They don’t want a process. They want an outcome. They want Trump to win and anything that says he didn’t win doesn’t count for some reason. Any reason. They can come up with anything to deny it.

Watch Marty come up with a reason to deny the Florida recount studies and remember that the original statement was that the studies showed Biden losing.

And you keep your head up sealy's ass because you got what you wanted, and really don't care how you got it.

I didn’t get what I wanted in 2016 but I didn’t make up bullshit stories about voter fraud.

 

[martybegan]

it's called having an opinion, something your ilk want to stop if the opinion isn't "approved"

Kind of like saying a dude with a dick is a girl, and has to be called a girl "or else"?

Yeah? And some people have the opinion that the world is flat. Doesn’t mean they’re stupid, it means they have something weird going on in their psychology that makes them believe something despite all evidence to the contrary.

They’re harmless, overall.

But it’s different here because Trump is nurturing this false beliefs to use to his advantage and it is hurting the country.

it's not harmless, it shows two things, a desire for reality to match your beliefs, and a need for everyone to agree with you OR ELSE. That is the crux of the progressive position, your position.

 

[martybegan]

It’s

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Gore had a point. He wanted all ballots counted. As many as possible. He wasn’t asking Florida to throw out hundreds of thousands of ballot he didn’t like. He wasn’t telling Congress to disregard the results entirely.

He just wanted the ballots counted but ran out of time.

And in the end it was shown that he more than likely lost anyway.

Gore only wanted ballots re-counted in counties he knew he had an advantage.

That’s true. Gore should have requested a statewide recount which is what the Supreme Court of Florida ordered.

I remember vividly that the Republican stance at the time was that any recount is unnecessary because like it or not we have to go with the initial result.

And the most complete count, all counties and over and under votes resulted in a Gore win.

Gore conceded when he lost because he did it for the good of the country. He didn’t feel the need to pretend otherwise. Consider the outcome of the entire election hinged on a few hundred votes in a single state. Trump lost by tens of thousands over several states.

Got a link to those studies showing he won?

it’s well explained in the wiki page.

2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

wikipedia is a useless source for debated materials, try harder.

Wikipedia is well sourced and highly accurate.

The studies are in the references.

 

[martybegan]

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Gore had a point. He wanted all ballots counted. As many as possible. He wasn’t asking Florida to throw out hundreds of thousands of ballot he didn’t like. He wasn’t telling Congress to disregard the results entirely.

He just wanted the ballots counted but ran out of time.

And in the end it was shown that he more than likely lost anyway.

Gore only wanted ballots re-counted in counties he knew he had an advantage.

That’s true. Gore should have requested a statewide recount which is what the Supreme Court of Florida ordered.

I remember vividly that the Republican stance at the time was that any recount is unnecessary because like it or not we have to go with the initial result.

And the most complete count, all counties and over and under votes resulted in a Gore win.

Gore conceded when he lost because he did it for the good of the country. He didn’t feel the need to pretend otherwise. Consider the outcome of the entire election hinged on a few hundred votes in a single state. Trump lost by tens of thousands over several states.

Got a link to those studies showing he won?

Fuck you. If you don’t know it’s because you don’t want to know.

And it’s funny that today you think what happened to gore happened to trump.

They don’t want to know.

Just look how Marty behaves here.

First he just wants to be heard.
they were heard.
Then he wants an explanation.
there was an explanation.
The explanation came from Biden supporters.
Raffensperger is a Trump supporter.
The explanation needs to come from someone else.

They keep pretending like they want a process.
They don’t want a process. They want an outcome. They want Trump to win and anything that says he didn’t win doesn’t count for some reason. Any reason. They can come up with anything to deny it.

Watch Marty come up with a reason to deny the Florida recount studies and remember that the original statement was that the studies showed Biden losing.

And you keep your head up sealy's ass because you got what you wanted, and really don't care how you got it.

I didn’t get what I wanted in 2016 but I didn’t make up bullshit stories about voter fraud.

Nah, your side just held a 4 year hissy fit and decided you were going to win in 2020 no matter what.

 

[colfax_m]

it's called having an opinion, something your ilk want to stop if the opinion isn't "approved"

Kind of like saying a dude with a dick is a girl, and has to be called a girl "or else"?

Yeah? And some people have the opinion that the world is flat. Doesn’t mean they’re stupid, it means they have something weird going on in their psychology that makes them believe something despite all evidence to the contrary.

They’re harmless, overall.

But it’s different here because Trump is nurturing this false beliefs to use to his advantage and it is hurting the country.

it's not harmless, it shows two things, a desire for reality to match your beliefs, and a need for everyone to agree with you OR ELSE. That is the crux of the progressive position, your position.

It’s a desire to live in the same reality. The country is far worse off when a big chunk of the country thinks there’s a massive conspiracy to steal the election despite all evidence to the contrary.

Reality doesn’t match my beliefs. My beliefs match reality. I believe the world is round because it would be insane to think there’s a massive conspiracy to hide the flat earth. I believe the election outcome was the right one because it’s insane to think there’s a massive conspiracy to steal it.

 

[colfax_m]

Nah, your side just held a 4 year hissy fit and decided you were going to win in 2020 no matter what.

Call it a hissy fit if you want. I don’t care.

A lot of people on your side decided you were going to win in 2020 no matter what, even if it required a riot in the Capitol.

My side accepted the outcome of the last election and had we lost (we almost did) this one we would have done the same.

 

[colfax_m]

It’s

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Gore had a point. He wanted all ballots counted. As many as possible. He wasn’t asking Florida to throw out hundreds of thousands of ballot he didn’t like. He wasn’t telling Congress to disregard the results entirely.

He just wanted the ballots counted but ran out of time.

And in the end it was shown that he more than likely lost anyway.

Gore only wanted ballots re-counted in counties he knew he had an advantage.

That’s true. Gore should have requested a statewide recount which is what the Supreme Court of Florida ordered.

I remember vividly that the Republican stance at the time was that any recount is unnecessary because like it or not we have to go with the initial result.

And the most complete count, all counties and over and under votes resulted in a Gore win.

Gore conceded when he lost because he did it for the good of the country. He didn’t feel the need to pretend otherwise. Consider the outcome of the entire election hinged on a few hundred votes in a single state. Trump lost by tens of thousands over several states.

Got a link to those studies showing he won?

it’s well explained in the wiki page.

2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

wikipedia is a useless source for debated materials, try harder.

Wikipedia is well sourced and highly accurate.

The studies are in the references.

See what I mean?
There’s no pleasing you because you only will accept one thing, bring right.

That’s why you claim to want an investigation but we both know that an investigation is useless since you’ll ignore it when it doesn’t say what you want.

 

[martybegan]

it's called having an opinion, something your ilk want to stop if the opinion isn't "approved"

Kind of like saying a dude with a dick is a girl, and has to be called a girl "or else"?

Yeah? And some people have the opinion that the world is flat. Doesn’t mean they’re stupid, it means they have something weird going on in their psychology that makes them believe something despite all evidence to the contrary.

They’re harmless, overall.

But it’s different here because Trump is nurturing this false beliefs to use to his advantage and it is hurting the country.

it's not harmless, it shows two things, a desire for reality to match your beliefs, and a need for everyone to agree with you OR ELSE. That is the crux of the progressive position, your position.

It’s a desire to live in the same reality. The country is far worse off when a big chunk of the country thinks there’s a massive conspiracy to steal the election despite all evidence to the contrary.

Reality doesn’t match my beliefs. My beliefs match reality. I believe the world is round because it would be insane to think there’s a massive conspiracy to hide the flat earth. I believe the election outcome was the right one because it’s insane to think there’s a massive conspiracy to steal it.

The country is worse off when the other chunk doesn't care about proving to the other chunk they are wrong, and instead just want them to shut up. And want government to MAKE them shut up.

It doesn't have to be a massive conspiracy, just a few people in certain electoral districts.

 

[martybegan]

Nah, your side just held a 4 year hissy fit and decided you were going to win in 2020 no matter what.

Call it a hissy fit if you want. I don’t care.

A lot of people on your side decided you were going to win in 2020 no matter what, even if it required a riot in the Capitol.

My side accepted the outcome of the last election and had we lost (we almost did) this one we would have done the same.

A lot of people on my side still think they were cheated, and you just want them to shut up.

Your side didn't accept it, you spent 4 years trying to overturn it.

From bureaucrats leaking, to not doing their job, to the impeachment, to the 4 years of calling him the devil and his supporters demons.

 

[martybegan]

It’s

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Gore had a point. He wanted all ballots counted. As many as possible. He wasn’t asking Florida to throw out hundreds of thousands of ballot he didn’t like. He wasn’t telling Congress to disregard the results entirely.

He just wanted the ballots counted but ran out of time.

And in the end it was shown that he more than likely lost anyway.

Gore only wanted ballots re-counted in counties he knew he had an advantage.

That’s true. Gore should have requested a statewide recount which is what the Supreme Court of Florida ordered.

I remember vividly that the Republican stance at the time was that any recount is unnecessary because like it or not we have to go with the initial result.

And the most complete count, all counties and over and under votes resulted in a Gore win.

Gore conceded when he lost because he did it for the good of the country. He didn’t feel the need to pretend otherwise. Consider the outcome of the entire election hinged on a few hundred votes in a single state. Trump lost by tens of thousands over several states.

Got a link to those studies showing he won?

it’s well explained in the wiki page.

2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

wikipedia is a useless source for debated materials, try harder.

Wikipedia is well sourced and highly accurate.

The studies are in the references.

See what I mean?
There’s no pleasing you because you only will accept one thing, bring right.

That’s why you claim to want an investigation but we both know that an investigation is useless since you’ll ignore it when it doesn’t say what you want.

Wikipedia is editable by pretty much anyone, and has a strong left wing bias. And referencing opinion pieces doesn't make them factual.

 

[colfax_m]

The country is worse off when the other chunk doesn't care about proving to the other chunk they are wrong, and instead just want them to shut up.

But we have. Over and over and over again.

It doesn’t matter what we do because you have already stated you don’t trust us and don’t care what we have to say. You literally just said this.

You demand we prove you wrong.
You refuse to listen to us proving you wrong.

I’ll say it again. You don’t actually want to be proven wrong and you won’t allow it. You only want Trump to win no matter what.

Being this disconnected from reality is dangerous. Being unreachable by any means is dangerous.

 

[colfax_m]

A lot of people on my side still think they were cheated, and you just want them to shut up.

Your side didn't accept it, you spent 4 years trying to overturn it.

From bureaucrats leaking, to not doing their job, to the impeachment, to the 4 years of calling him the devil and his supporters demons.

Your side only thinks that because they can’t accept that they lost. Trump won’t accept it and neither will you. Feeling cheated is the only way to maintain your world view that Trump is always winning. If he isn’t winning, it’s someone else’s fault. It’s not a healthy state of mind.

We didn’t spend 4 years trying to overturn the election. We spent 4 years pushing back against him. Leaks don’t overturn elections. Bureaucrats not doing their job doesn’t overturn elections. Calling him names doesn’t overturn elections. Impeachment doesn’t overturn elections.

Trying to get Mike Pence to unilaterally toss out state appointed electors is overturning an election.

 

[colfax_m]

It’s

They didn't explain, they said "your views are bullshit, shut up"

They did explain but were trained not to accept anything other than what Trump and his media allies say.

Take Antrim county. There was an investigation into exactly what happened which revealed a user error. The ballot design was changed by the machines were not updated with the new design. The state disseminated the result of the election and was reported in the media but to the Trump crowd, Antrim county proves that Dominion steals votes.

It was explained but you can’t make people listen.

You’ll deny facts to preserve your false comfortable reality.

All these errors, and all in the favor of Democrats.

Just like Florida 2000 all the errors favored Republicans.

At least in Florida they did hard recounts and investigated for months afterwards (And most of the those investigations showed Bush would have probably won anyway).

If you want to blame the 2000 election on anyone, blame it on Gore who couldn't even win his own home State.

Gore had a point. He wanted all ballots counted. As many as possible. He wasn’t asking Florida to throw out hundreds of thousands of ballot he didn’t like. He wasn’t telling Congress to disregard the results entirely.

He just wanted the ballots counted but ran out of time.

And in the end it was shown that he more than likely lost anyway.

Gore only wanted ballots re-counted in counties he knew he had an advantage.

That’s true. Gore should have requested a statewide recount which is what the Supreme Court of Florida ordered.

I remember vividly that the Republican stance at the time was that any recount is unnecessary because like it or not we have to go with the initial result.

And the most complete count, all counties and over and under votes resulted in a Gore win.

Gore conceded when he lost because he did it for the good of the country. He didn’t feel the need to pretend otherwise. Consider the outcome of the entire election hinged on a few hundred votes in a single state. Trump lost by tens of thousands over several states.

Got a link to those studies showing he won?

it’s well explained in the wiki page.

2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

wikipedia is a useless source for debated materials, try harder.

Wikipedia is well sourced and highly accurate.

The studies are in the references.

See what I mean?
There’s no pleasing you because you only will accept one thing, bring right.

That’s why you claim to want an investigation but we both know that an investigation is useless since you’ll ignore it when it doesn’t say what you want.

Wikipedia is editable by pretty much anyone, and has a strong left wing bias. And referencing opinion pieces doesn't make them factual.

The references weren’t opinion pieces. They were the studies that you requested.

 

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The country is worse off when the other chunk doesn't care about proving to the other chunk they are wrong, and instead just want them to shut up.

But we have. Over and over and over again.

It doesn’t matter what we do because you have already stated you don’t trust us and don’t care what we have to say. You literally just said this.

You demand we prove you wrong.
You refuse to listen to us proving you wrong.

I’ll say it again. You don’t actually want to be proven wrong and you won’t allow it. You only want Trump to win no matter what.

Being this disconnected from reality is dangerous. Being unreachable by any means is dangerous.

Again you haven't "proven" anything. No deep dive has been done, most of the lawsuits were denied on standing.

Enjoy your probably ill gotten gains.