America continues to lose! Ford to lay off workers because tariffs have cost $1B

[Rustic]

It’s best to never depend on unions, they are fraudulent

 

[Rustic]

Go ahead tell us your solution, continue allowing other countries to take our jobs and steal our property? None of you dumb ass leftwits have a single idea or solution.

The US has, by far, the highest top to bottom standard of living in the history of the planet. If other nations were doing what you were stating; it would not be the case.

Where trade infractions are present, there are bodies in place to address them. The WTO, for example.

We are still waiting. You people bitch and complain about wages, lack of decent paying jobs, the erosion of the middle class. Then you idiots turn right around and allow other countries to steal those jobs. This is why nobody likes you people.

Yet Hillary got 3 million more votes than her opponent.

Trump won the popular vote in 49 states by 1 million votes, Hillary won 4 million more votes in California and lost the other 49.

Has that got anything to do with anything on this thread. Trump won on an accumulated vote total of a measely 76K accumulated vote total coming out of 3 blue rust states, that won't be voting for him again. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million popular votes. And along with the unprecedented interfernce by an incompetent FBI director in James Comey and Vladimir Putin, you have the most illegitmate President to ever be sworn into the Oval Office.

And here comes your pay-back--ENJOY.

Blue wave coming this November 2018

The only thing Hillary Clinton is actually guilty of, is underestimating the astounding IGNORANCE in this country.

Actually the conservative/libertarian side received more votes... dumbass

Candidate Party Popular Votes
Donald J. Trump Republican 62,980,160
Hillary R. Clinton Democratic 65,845,063
Gary Johnson Libertarian 4,488,931
Jill Stein Green 1,457,050

 

[Siete]

It’s best to never depend on unions, they are fraudulent

really ?

must be why Trump endorses unions.

mea culpa ..

unions endorse Trump.

 

[oreo]

Are you surprised? You shouldn’t be if you have a basic understanding of economics.

Ford announces plan to lay off workers after tariffs cost them $1B

There is no winners when you start a trade war. Everyone loses. The only thing they're good for is skyrocking prices back to the consumer. Consumers cut back on their purchases, and the job lay-offs begin in every sector of the economy.

We've been there done that before.
The Great Depression Lesson About ‘Trade Wars’

Congress has to approve changes to any existing trade agreements. Trump can't do it himself. As Bob Woodward's book describes most of Trump's tariff rhetoric is nothing more than crazy ivan hyperbole to throw a bone to his ignorant Nationalist base to keep them intact.

Both Republicans and Democrats are historically free trade, so he's not going anywhere with his threats. It's just his political strategy. And unfortunately there's way too many STUPID people in this country that are easily manipulated by someone like Trump who VOTE.

Weird how tariffs and forms of tariffs have been working for China, Europe, Canada and well just about every other country except the US for the last 30 years.

Trade wars never work for anyone. The price of Ford vehicles go up to cover the cost of tariff's and American run over and buy foreign cars, at sometimes a cheaper price. Ford workers get laid off from their jobs. It's a no win situation.

Everytime Trump threatens with tariffs, they threaten right back. We are in a global economy--& it's here to stay.

A trade deficit is nothing more than a paper deficit. We can't expect smaller populated countries like Canada & Mexico to buy 2 washers & dryers, and 5 American cars per family. Therefore, every sale of an American product overseas, is a trade surplus. The only country we should have a trade surplus with is China, as they have a bigger population. But they manipulate their currency where we show a trade deficit.

Again Trump is throwing a bone to his Nationalist base with these threats. Any existing trade deals are written law, that would have to be approved by congress and signed into law, like any other bill. So it's just a lot of hot air. Republican nor Democrats would not agree to do that.

Trump is continually threatening our # 1, 2, & 3 largest buyers of American products. China, Canada & Mexico. Now imagine what would happen to our economy if they just told Trump to FUCK off--they'll be buying elsewhere.

Indeed.

Bringing strategic manufacturing capabilities back on-shore is going to hurt.

Well... the sooner we 'take the pain' and get started, the sooner we'll be self-sufficient in those areas again, and the sooner the pain stops.

Continuing to be reliant upon adversarial nations for so much of our manufacturing is a deadly trap that we must escape before it's too late.

Short-sighted critters, unable to see the long-term strategic need, may be safely ignored during this painful stretch of time.

You're not going to get manufacturing back--get over it. The reason manufacturing has shipped overseas, is because our Employers are required to pay for social security, medicare, workman's compensation, unemployment insurance, and now medical insurance.

Apple & other corporations have to compete in a Global economy, making certain that those I-phones are also affordable in foreign countries, otherwise they would be have to shut their doors. The benefit to you is--that you're not paying $3000.00 for an I-phone made and manufactured in the United states.

We are also moving into a lot of automation, ATM machines, self checkout's at stores, that are going to be the future. So get a job that cannot be shipped overseas, or done with a machine.

 

[Kondor3]

Are you surprised? You shouldn’t be if you have a basic understanding of economics.

Ford announces plan to lay off workers after tariffs cost them $1B

There is no winners when you start a trade war. Everyone loses. The only thing they're good for is skyrocking prices back to the consumer. Consumers cut back on their purchases, and the job lay-offs begin in every sector of the economy.

We've been there done that before.
The Great Depression Lesson About ‘Trade Wars’

Congress has to approve changes to any existing trade agreements. Trump can't do it himself. As Bob Woodward's book describes most of Trump's tariff rhetoric is nothing more than crazy ivan hyperbole to throw a bone to his ignorant Nationalist base to keep them intact.

Both Republicans and Democrats are historically free trade, so he's not going anywhere with his threats. It's just his political strategy. And unfortunately there's way too many STUPID people in this country that are easily manipulated by someone like Trump who VOTE.

Weird how tariffs and forms of tariffs have been working for China, Europe, Canada and well just about every other country except the US for the last 30 years.

Trade wars never work for anyone. The price of Ford vehicles go up to cover the cost of tariff's and American run over and buy foreign cars, at sometimes a cheaper price. Ford workers get laid off from their jobs. It's a no win situation.

Everytime Trump threatens with tariffs, they threaten right back. We are in a global economy--& it's here to stay.

A trade deficit is nothing more than a paper deficit. We can't expect smaller populated countries like Canada & Mexico to buy 2 washers & dryers, and 5 American cars per family. Therefore, every sale of an American product overseas, is a trade surplus. The only country we should have a trade surplus with is China, as they have a bigger population. But they manipulate their currency where we show a trade deficit.

Again Trump is throwing a bone to his Nationalist base with these threats. Any existing trade deals are written law, that would have to be approved by congress and signed into law, like any other bill. So it's just a lot of hot air. Republican nor Democrats would not agree to do that.

Trump is continually threatening our # 1, 2, & 3 largest buyers of American products. China, Canada & Mexico. Now imagine what would happen to our economy if they just told Trump to FUCK off--they'll be buying elsewhere.

Indeed.

Bringing strategic manufacturing capabilities back on-shore is going to hurt.

Well... the sooner we 'take the pain' and get started, the sooner we'll be self-sufficient in those areas again, and the sooner the pain stops.

Continuing to be reliant upon adversarial nations for so much of our manufacturing is a deadly trap that we must escape before it's too late.

Short-sighted critters, unable to see the long-term strategic need, may be safely ignored during this painful stretch of time.

You're not going to get manufacturing back--get over it. The reason manufacturing has shipped overseas, is because our Employers are required to pay for social security, medicare, workman's compensation, unemployment insurance, and now medical insurance.

Apple & other corporations have to compete in a Global economy, making certain that those I-phones are also affordable in foreign countries, otherwise they would be have to shut their doors. The benefit to you is--that you're not paying $3000.00 for an I-phone made and manufactured in the United states.

The United States is now committed to doing just that --- restoring self-sufficiency in manufacturing --- the effort is already well underway.

 

[Kondor3]

It’s best to never depend on unions, they are fraudulent

Once upon a time, unions were not only relevant, but necessary, to force the hand of the worst of the Robber Barons.

But their time is largely over now... Reagan killing the Air Traffic Controller's Union in 1981 was the coup de grace.

Broadly speaking... what's left isn't worth much, in comparison to their ability to protect The Working Man in times past.

 

[Siete]

outside of a couple of guys filling up empty bins with boxes ready for the robots to do the jobs of humans, heres your union

 

[BluesLegend]

Go ahead tell us your solution, continue allowing other countries to take our jobs and steal our property? None of you dumb ass leftwits have a single idea or solution.

The US has, by far, the highest top to bottom standard of living in the history of the planet. If other nations were doing what you were stating; it would not be the case.

Where trade infractions are present, there are bodies in place to address them. The WTO, for example.

We are still waiting. You people bitch and complain about wages, lack of decent paying jobs, the erosion of the middle class. Then you idiots turn right around and allow other countries to steal those jobs. This is why nobody likes you people.

Yet Hillary got 3 million more votes than her opponent.

Trump won the popular vote in 49 states by 1 million votes, Hillary won 4 million more votes in California and lost the other 49.

What has that got to do with anything on this thread. But since you brought it up, I will address it. Trump won on an accumulated vote total of a measely 76K accumulated vote total coming out of 3 blue rust states, that won't be voting for him again. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million popular votes. And along with the unprecedented interference by an incompetent FBI director in James Comey and Vladimir Putin, you have the most illegitmate President to ever be sworn into the Oval Office.

And here comes your pay-back--ENJOY.

Blue wave coming this November 2018

The only thing Hillary Clinton is actually guilty of, is underestimating the astounding IGNORANCE in this country.

 

[BluesLegend]

You're not going to get manufacturing back--get over it.

^^^ why the left lost the election.

 

[Siete]

You're not going to get manufacturing back--get over it.

^^^ why the left lost the election.

youre the most redundant dip on the damn board with your won/lost rhetoric.

 

[TheDude]

Are you surprised? You shouldn’t be if you have a basic understanding of economics.

Ford announces plan to lay off workers after tariffs cost them $1B

Billy said "Are you surprised? You shouldn’t be if you have a basic understanding of economics."...Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

[Wyatt earp]

outside of a couple of guys filling up empty bins with boxes ready for the robots to do the jobs of humans, heres your union

That's so 1980

 

[easyt65]

Has that got anything to do with anything on this thread. Trump won on an accumulated vote total of a measely 76K accumulated vote total coming out of 3 blue rust states, that won't be voting for him again. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million popular votes. And along with the unprecedented interfernce by an incompetent FBI director in James Comey and Vladimir Putin, you have the most illegitmate President to ever be sworn into the Oval Office.

STOP YOU WHINING, LYING, JUSTIFYING, ETC......

1. No 'Win', No 'Participation Trophy' For 'Popularity Contest Victory'
I am sorry if the DNC, Hillary Clinton, Democrats, Liberals, Democratic Socialists, Fascists, and snowflakes were too ignorant to understand that US Presidents were elected through the Electoral College process, has ALWAYS been elected through this process, and NOT via some 'Popularity Contest'.
- Evidently when Democrats began fundamentally changing the US by insisting everyone gets a trophy for participating in sports instead of learning the valuable lessons is competition such as how to win and lose with honor, dignity, and class they just assumed that the whole 'Participation Trophy' / Popularity Contest thing had been adopted by the Presidential election process, too. Boy, were they pissed when they found this was NOT the case. Sucks to be them!

2. Obama Knew Since 2014 - Did NOTHING
Evidence shows Obama learned the Russians were interfering in 2014 - attempting to hack the US power grid, attempting to hack senior-level politicians' e-mails/servers (while he knew about Hillary's illegal server), and how the Russian Intel Agency was conducting Counter-Intelligence Operations in the US using Social Media to successfully con snowflakes into organizing and marching for them and getting liberal groups like Antifa, BLM, an the Black Fist to willing take money and instigate / spread racial division and violence in the US. Evidence shows Obama and his administration did NOTHING to stop it and allowed it to continue for 2 years.

3. The United States Is The Victim of 2 (TWO) Counter-Intelligence Ops, Both Benefitting Russia
Snowflakes continue to demonstrate their ignorance regarding Counter-Intelligence Operations, the strategy of
using, manipulating, and passing off FAKE / FALSE information as legitimate news / data. The goal of Putin / Russia was NEVER to get one candidate elected over another but to create an atmosphere where the American people believed that the winner of the election only won because of outside interference, making them believe that the winner was completely ILLEGITIMATE, causing massive division - a divided nation and a portion of the government that is/was 100% committed to stopping / obstructing everything the new President and administration attempted to do. SOUND FAMILIAR? THIS result would be / is FAR MORE BENEFICIAL to Putin / Russia than simply getting one person elected over another.

- Easily emotionally-manipulated rabidly partisans were / are just to stupid / suborn to see and / or admit this is what happened ... is still happening.

The United States did not just fall victim to a RUSSIAN COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE OPERATION....It also fell victim to OBAMA'S / THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE OPERATION!

Evidence shows how Hillary's team colluded with / paid foreign spies (working with the FBI and even Mueller before appointed Special Counsel, according to #4 in the DOJ Oher) and Russians for a Russian-Authored debunked report, how the FBI's Best COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE Operative (Strzok) worked with both the CIA (Brennan) and NIA (Clapper) to write both an Intel Community Analysis (ICA) and an Intel Community Report (ICR) based on the Russian-authored report, sent out the ICA - carefully controlled and sent to hand-picked select Intel community agencies to get the results they wanted, used the ICA responses and the dossier to write the ICR, then both 1) Briefed the ICR to Congress - passing it off as Legitimate Intel in order to convince them to open an Investigation and appoint co-conspirator Mueller as Special Counsel, AND 2) to use the ICR to abuse the FISA court and illegally get warrants to spy on Trump and his team DURING an election (shades of Watergate).

Remember - Counter-Intelligence is all about mis-direction, using false information to sell a narrative....and that is EXACTLY what the CIA, NIA, and FBI did!

Evidence shows - and the US IG Report backs it up / Oher's testimony before Congress backs it up / McCabe's personal notes and testimony backs it up / Strzok's texts back it all up - that there was NEVER any evidence of any illegal collusion between Trump and the Russians - it was ALL unsubstantiated and CIA/NIA/FBI fabricated/pushed FALSE INTEL sold as ;Legitimate Intel. which it never was and which they knew.

(There is a reason that after 2 years the investigators have not been able to come up with any evidence to support their claims and why they have tried so hard to expand the investigation and find anything else other than the bogus 'Illegal Collusion' accusations to take down Trump - BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT THERE IS NOTHING TO THE 'ILLEGAL COLLUSION CLAIMS' BECAUSE TH3Y MANUFACTURED THE ACCUSATIONS BASED OFF OF BS OPPOSITION RESEARCH PROVIDED BY HILLAYR BOUGHT FROM FOREIGN SPIES AND THE RUSSIANS!)

...and the Democrats, who have wanted nothing more than to take President Trump down, have been more than happy to run their own Counter-Intel Op against the President that has helped Putin achieve his goal of dividing this nation far more than he had ever hoped it would succeed.

4. There is NOTHING Illegitimate about this President....NOTHING.

He defeated a career, elitist, corrupt, criminal, self/party-serving, influence-peddling, 'swamp-dwelling', 'status quo' politician who actually believed she was to be the next President because it was HER TURN and that she did not have to do anything to actually earn it - it was supposed to be GIVEN to her (like the DNC nomination was). This arrogance and elitist entitlement thought process could not have been seen more clearly by her running the worse campaign in US history - actually arrogantly refusing to campaign in some states she thought she did not have to 'win' but has hers already due to the very mention of her name...a massive error that literally caused her to lose the election!

She represented everything the majority of Americans hated at that moment about Politics, especially Washington Party Politics, and she offered nothing but 'It's My Turn' and 'Obama 2.0'. The Russians did not change 1 single ballot from 'Hillary' to 'Trump' - NOT ONE! ADMIT IT!

The revelation that Hillary had rigged the primaries, cheated in debates, engaged in election fraud during the primaries, had violated both Election and Campaign Finance Laws, had the nomination given to her, had compromised national security, violated the FOIA and Federal Records Act more than 15,000 times each, according to the FBI who publicly declared they had recovered more than 15,000 official subpoenaed documents Hillary had tried to destroy, documents she was required by law to turn on but never did, influenced more voters' opinions and votes than the Russians or any false narratives about the Russians ever did,

HILLARY LOST THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!

 

[easyt65]

BACK TO THE TOPIC:

Trump has delivered the strongest economy in decades, lowest unemployment in decades, etc....

Democrats have not been able to name any specific policy changes Hillary would have done that would have resulted in a more successful economy than we have now. Obama 2.0 sure wasn't going to deliver this result.

If you want something different, as Obama once told the GOP, win some elections.

 

[Siete]

outside of a couple of guys filling up empty bins with boxes ready for the robots to do the jobs of humans, heres your union

That's so 1980


View attachment 221747

thats a small portion of Larry Potterfield's Midway USA built recently ... its a reflection of labor / jobs that wont be coming back.

and youre a reflection of a moron.

 

[easyt65]

O-B-A-M-A

L-O-S-E-R

 

[Hellokitty]

Are you surprised? You shouldn’t be if you have a basic understanding of economics.

Ford announces plan to lay off workers after tariffs cost them $1B

There is no winners when you start a trade war. Everyone loses. The only thing they're good for is skyrocking prices back to the consumer. Consumers cut back on their purchases, and the job lay-offs begin in every sector of the economy.

We've been there done that before.
The Great Depression Lesson About ‘Trade Wars’

Congress has to approve changes to any existing trade agreements. Trump can't do it himself. As Bob Woodward's book describes most of Trump's tariff rhetoric is nothing more than crazy ivan hyperbole to throw a bone to his ignorant Nationalist base to keep them intact.

Both Republicans and Democrats are historically free trade, so he's not going anywhere with his threats. It's just his political strategy. And unfortunately there's way too many STUPID people in this country that are easily manipulated by someone like Trump who VOTE.

Weird how tariffs and forms of tariffs have been working for China, Europe, Canada and well just about every other country except the US for the last 30 years.

Trade wars never work for anyone. The price of Ford vehicles go up to cover the cost of tariff's and American run over and buy foreign cars, at sometimes a cheaper price. Ford workers get laid off from their jobs. It's a no win situation.

Everytime Trump threatens with tariffs, they threaten right back. We are in a global economy--& it's here to stay.

A trade deficit is nothing more than a paper deficit. We can't expect smaller populated countries like Canada & Mexico to buy 2 washers & dryers, and 5 American cars per family. Therefore, every sale of an American product overseas, is a trade surplus. The only country we should have a trade surplus with is China, as they have a bigger population. But they manipulate their currency where we show a trade deficit.

Again Trump is throwing a bone to his Nationalist base with these threats. Any existing trade deals are written law, that would have to be approved by congress and signed into law, like any other bill. So it's just a lot of hot air. Republican nor Democrats would agree to do that. They are ALL pro-trade.

Trump is continually threatening our # 1, 2, & 3 largest buyers of American products. China, Canada & Mexico. Now imagine what would happen to our economy if they just told Trump to FUCK off--they'll be buying elsewhere.

Ironically the ones that would get hit the worst are the Trump voters. These countries have returned threats on a lot of agriculture, pork, beef, cranberry's, wheat, etc. etc. etc.

Americans have been buying foreign cars at comparable/sometimes cheeper price for many years now, the thing you can't explain is why the same is not true for US cars in other countries. Why are foreign cars selling in the US, but US cars aren't selling in foreign countries comparably?

 

[candycorn]

It was predictable.

And it will have a ripple effect as fewer vehicles to sell results in fewer salesmen, fewer porters, fewer finance people…. Happening at a bad time as well because all vehicles price will necessarily go up due to the tariffs so that will hurt demand as well so it’s not as if the lost jobs will just transfer over to another dealer/manufacturer.

Go ahead tell us your solution, continue allowing other countries to take our jobs and steal our property? None of you dumb ass leftwits have a single idea or solution.

The US has, by far, the highest top to bottom standard of living in the history of the planet. If other nations were doing what you were stating; it would not be the case.

Where trade infractions are present, there are bodies in place to address them. The WTO, for example.

We are still waiting. You people bitch and complain about wages, lack of decent paying jobs, the erosion of the middle class. Then you idiots turn right around and allow other countries to steal those jobs. This is why nobody likes you people.

Yet Hillary got 3 million more votes than her opponent.

WTF, do try to stick to the subject.

3 million more votes than the blob means people like us.

 

[candycorn]

Americans have been buying foreign cars at comparable/sometimes cheeper price for many years now, the thing you can't explain is why the same is not true for US cars in other countries. Why are foreign cars selling in the US, but US cars aren't selling in foreign countries comparably?

Ford sold over a million vehicles in China alone.

A lot of it has to do with pricing. Ford vehicles are more expensive than others in the market.

If you took all of the blue bars up there and put them together it would be comparable to what Ford sells domestically. Why Trump wants to jeopardize that (this is one manufacturer alone) is bizarre.

One thing about the chart up there. I’m not sure if this is just passenger vehicles or industrial use vehicles such as farm machinery and mining tools. Ford is a big player in those areas.

 

[Hellokitty]

Are you surprised? You shouldn’t be if you have a basic understanding of economics.

Ford announces plan to lay off workers after tariffs cost them $1B

There is no winners when you start a trade war. Everyone loses. The only thing they're good for is skyrocking prices back to the consumer. Consumers cut back on their purchases, and the job lay-offs begin in every sector of the economy.

We've been there done that before.
The Great Depression Lesson About ‘Trade Wars’

Congress has to approve changes to any existing trade agreements. Trump can't do it himself. As Bob Woodward's book describes most of Trump's tariff rhetoric is nothing more than crazy ivan hyperbole to throw a bone to his ignorant Nationalist base to keep them intact.

Both Republicans and Democrats are historically free trade, so he's not going anywhere with his threats. It's just his political strategy. And unfortunately there's way too many STUPID people in this country that are easily manipulated by someone like Trump who VOTE.

Weird how tariffs and forms of tariffs have been working for China, Europe, Canada and well just about every other country except the US for the last 30 years.

Trade wars never work for anyone. The price of Ford vehicles go up to cover the cost of tariff's and American run over and buy foreign cars, at sometimes a cheaper price. Ford workers get laid off from their jobs. It's a no win situation.

Everytime Trump threatens with tariffs, they threaten right back. We are in a global economy--& it's here to stay.

A trade deficit is nothing more than a paper deficit. We can't expect smaller populated countries like Canada & Mexico to buy 2 washers & dryers, and 5 American cars per family. Therefore, every sale of an American product overseas, is a trade surplus. The only country we should have a trade surplus with is China, as they have a bigger population. But they manipulate their currency where we show a trade deficit.

Again Trump is throwing a bone to his Nationalist base with these threats. Any existing trade deals are written law, that would have to be approved by congress and signed into law, like any other bill. So it's just a lot of hot air. Republican nor Democrats would not agree to do that.

Trump is continually threatening our # 1, 2, & 3 largest buyers of American products. China, Canada & Mexico. Now imagine what would happen to our economy if they just told Trump to FUCK off--they'll be buying elsewhere.

Indeed.

Bringing strategic manufacturing capabilities back on-shore is going to hurt.

Well... the sooner we 'take the pain' and get started, the sooner we'll be self-sufficient in those areas again, and the sooner the pain stops.

Continuing to be reliant upon adversarial nations for so much of our manufacturing is a deadly trap that we must escape before it's too late.

Short-sighted critters, unable to see the long-term strategic need, may be safely ignored during this painful stretch of time.

You're not going to get manufacturing back--get over it. The reason manufacturing has shipped overseas, is because our Employers are required to pay for social security, medicare, workman's compensation, unemployment insurance, and now medical insurance.

Apple & other corporations have to compete in a Global economy, making certain that those I-phones are also affordable in foreign countries, otherwise they would be have to shut their doors. The benefit to you is--that you're not paying $3000.00 for an I-phone made and manufactured in the United states.

We are also moving into a lot of automation, ATM machines, self checkout's at stores, that are going to be the future. So get a job that cannot be shipped overseas, or done with a machine.

Manufacturing shipped over see because of overregulation in the US, which was one of the first thing TRUMP got rid of after taking office.

Automation is only productive to a certain point. Just look at how many people are employed by Amazon. And all those machines don't build themselves. There will always be a need for a manufacturing workforce to some degree.