America's greatness is its working classes not "wealth" creators

[martybegan]

Marty reveals that he does not understand the definitions: nothing new.

The only thing revealed in this post is your samefag approach to positioning yourself as a moderate when you are nothing more than a tie-dyed lefty asshat.

 

[JakeStarkey]

There is no inherent virtue in being a working-class moron.

Then you have outed yourself.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ad hom is the notice given by the loser, Marty.

You will not be allowed to get away with redefining accepted traditional and historical terms.

 

[martybegan]

Ad hom is the notice given by the loser, Marty.

You will not be allowed to get away with redefining accepted traditional and historical terms.

And what are you going to do to stop me Mr. internet tough guy???

My kid sister can probably beat the living shit out of you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

 

[bripat9643]

Jakey Fakey's a socialist. Now it all makes sense. You're not a Republican you fucking liar.

He isn't just a socialist. He's an outright communist. He was caught red handed posting communist propaganda published by the Cuban government on this forum.

 

[bripat9643]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

A "consolation prize" for what? Is having money a crime?

 

[martybegan]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

The oppression that results in a nation with the wealth of the US having millions of working class households needing 2 fulltime jobs to keep up with the increasing costs of middle class American way of life, for starters.

 

[martybegan]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

The oppression that results in a nation with the wealth of the US having millions of working class households needing 2 fulltime jobs to keep up with the increasing costs of middle class American way of life, for starters.

Then why don't we cut back on the excessive, multi-tiered tax burden that is placed on people, lets start there.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

The oppression that results in a nation with the wealth of the US having millions of working class households needing 2 fulltime jobs to keep up with the increasing costs of middle class American way of life, for starters.

Then why don't we cut back on the excessive, multi-tiered tax burden that is placed on people, lets start there.

The effective tax rate is down around the 1950's level. We can't tax cut our way out of this problem.

 

[martybegan]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

The oppression that results in a nation with the wealth of the US having millions of working class households needing 2 fulltime jobs to keep up with the increasing costs of middle class American way of life, for starters.

Then why don't we cut back on the excessive, multi-tiered tax burden that is placed on people, lets start there.

The effective tax rate is down around the 1950's level. We can't tax cut our way out of this problem.

Federal tax rate, you forget about the increases in all the other taxes, like property, state taxes, sales taxes, all the fees we pay.

You focus on the federal tax burden and ignore all the others.

and its interesting that of all the fallacies from the idealistic view of the middle class from the mid and early 20th century, the only one you stick to is the stay at home mom.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

America needs more unionized civil servants.... For economic growth ! Lol

 

[turtledude]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

The oppression that results in a nation with the wealth of the US having millions of working class households needing 2 fulltime jobs to keep up with the increasing costs of middle class American way of life, for starters.

maybe if the middle class quit voting for more and more government, they wouldn't have to pay for so much government. the middle class way of life has become a massive teat sucking activity

 

[turtledude]

America needs more unionized civil servants.... For economic growth ! Lol

taxing our way to prosperity

 

[turtledude]

The stupidity of the average conservative on this issue is that he doesn't realize that the Rich won't do him any special favors just because he sucks up to them. He's getting screwed as much as the next person.

as opposed to sucking up to the rich pimps in the Democrat party who pretend they care for the losers when their real goal is wealth and power through political office?

 

[ricechickie]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

The oppression that results in a nation with the wealth of the US having millions of working class households needing 2 fulltime jobs to keep up with the increasing costs of middle class American way of life, for starters.

maybe if the middle class quit voting for more and more government, they wouldn't have to pay for so much government. the middle class way of life has become a massive teat sucking activity

Maybe the middle class is desperately trying to hold on to being middle class.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

The oppression that results in a nation with the wealth of the US having millions of working class households needing 2 fulltime jobs to keep up with the increasing costs of middle class American way of life, for starters.

maybe if the middle class quit voting for more and more government, they wouldn't have to pay for so much government. the middle class way of life has become a massive teat sucking activity

Have you forgotten? 47% of Americans pay no federal income taxes and the conservative consensus is that their taxes should be RAISED,

you know, that 'skin in the game' canard. So don't be bullshitting about taxes.

Low wages increase government spending. You need more good paying jobs here to raise people out of the social safety net.

 

[martybegan]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

The oppression that results in a nation with the wealth of the US having millions of working class households needing 2 fulltime jobs to keep up with the increasing costs of middle class American way of life, for starters.

maybe if the middle class quit voting for more and more government, they wouldn't have to pay for so much government. the middle class way of life has become a massive teat sucking activity

Have you forgotten? 47% of Americans pay no federal income taxes and the conservative consensus is that their taxes should be RAISED,

you know, that 'skin in the game' canard. So don't be bullshitting about taxes.

Low wages increase government spending. You need more good paying jobs here to raise people out of the social safety net.

They pay plenty of other taxes, and most of them don't even realize it. and i thought we were talking about the middle class? Why are you bringing up the poor now?

Are you having trouble keeping all your "CEO's bad unga bunga" talking points in order?

 

[turtledude]

The fact that the Rich spend their money is not a consolation prize for the oppression of the working class.

What oppression?

The oppression that results in a nation with the wealth of the US having millions of working class households needing 2 fulltime jobs to keep up with the increasing costs of middle class American way of life, for starters.

maybe if the middle class quit voting for more and more government, they wouldn't have to pay for so much government. the middle class way of life has become a massive teat sucking activity

Have you forgotten? 47% of Americans pay no federal income taxes and the conservative consensus is that their taxes should be RAISED,

you know, that 'skin in the game' canard. So don't be bullshitting about taxes.

Low wages increase government spending. You need more good paying jobs here to raise people out of the social safety net.

you labor under the delusion that we need the level of safety net we have now