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Be it Healthcare, (The Government knows best), to AGW, to Gun Control, to how much soda a person can drink, the Left are full of people who knows what's best for everyone else simply because they are "smarter", better informed, more caring, or just plain "Elite".
Not sure Health Care is a great example. The pre-Obama Health Care universe was constructed by trillions of dollars of lobbying and campaign funding. Large health corporations (mostly concentrated around drugs and insurance) basically wrote their own policies. They were not working against the centralizing or regulatory policies of government, rather, they have co-opted government.
People have been fed a false view of government on one side and business on the other. Talk Radio promotes this myth.
Here is what they aren't telling you.
Business and government have merged.
Business funds elections and staffs government and maintains constant lobbying pressure to get exactly what they want. Goldman Sachs and Citi supplied the top economic advisors for Reagan, Clinton and the Bush's. Haliburton supplied the vice president for Bush and played a major role in drafting energy policy. Ely Lilly wrote the 2003 Republican Drug Bill and spent billions to ensure that they would not have to compete with foreign or generic drug makes, along with securing above market drug costs for its no-bed Medicare contract.
Your chosen news sources don't talk about this stuff because they have a vested interest in you not knowing who really runs (funds) government.
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The First Amendment isn't about speech we like.
It's about speech we don't like.
Few Americans have had no contact with the Nazi type. We even see them on these boards selling their hate for "the inferiors" using stereotypes and generalizations, canards, half-truths and fabrications. They manage to work their hate into every post. The most virulent are easily recognized and marginalized by most Americans but I've long wondered why we tolerate them at all. Certainly our freedoms of thought and expression are key to their existence but there seems to be something more at work. Can it be we all share a bit of their racist and bigoted nature and we keep them as pets to remind us they are not who and what we want to be?
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The First Amendment isn't about speech we like.
It's about speech we don't like.
Fair enough and I believe we've established their right to be hateful and express that hate as probably the #1 reason we tolerate them but is there something more to it?
Help me out here, Mac.
All people are racist and bigots. It's just a matter of degree. As children, our parents and our peers teach us by word or dead to fear those that are different. Fear easily turns to hate. As we grow older, most of us learn to overcome this; some never do.Few Americans have had no contact with the Nazi type. We even see them on these boards selling their hate for "the inferiors" using stereotypes and generalizations, canards, half-truths and fabrications. They manage to work their hate into every post. The most virulent are easily recognized and marginalized by most Americans but I've long wondered why we tolerate them at all. Certainly our freedoms of thought and expression are key to their existence but there seems to be something more at work. Can it be we all share a bit of their racist and bigoted nature and we keep them as pets to remind us they are not who and what we want to be?
All people are racist and bigots. It's just a matter of degree. As children, our parents and our peers teach us by word or dead to fear those that are different. Fear easily turns to hate. As we grow older, most of us learn to overcome this; some never do.Few Americans have had no contact with the Nazi type. We even see them on these boards selling their hate for "the inferiors" using stereotypes and generalizations, canards, half-truths and fabrications. They manage to work their hate into every post. The most virulent are easily recognized and marginalized by most Americans but I've long wondered why we tolerate them at all. Certainly our freedoms of thought and expression are key to their existence but there seems to be something more at work. Can it be we all share a bit of their racist and bigoted nature and we keep them as pets to remind us they are not who and what we want to be?
I was never taught to fear anyone that was different nor did I teach my children that.
With all due respect, you had terrible parents.
Few Americans have had no contact with the Nazi type. We even see them on these boards selling their hate for "the inferiors" using stereotypes and generalizations, canards, half-truths and fabrications. They manage to work their hate into every post. The most virulent are easily recognized and marginalized by most Americans but I've long wondered why we tolerate them at all. Certainly our freedoms of thought and expression are key to their existence but there seems to be something more at work. Can it be we all share a bit of their racist and bigoted nature and we keep them as pets to remind us they are not who and what we want to be?
Most of your posts sounds as if you were describing most of the Lefties I know.
Everyone else who doesn't agree with them on issues are "simpletons" and a "nut" of some sort.
Be it Healthcare, (The Government knows best), to AGW, to Gun Control, to how much soda a person can drink, the Left are full of people who knows what's best for everyone else simply because they are "smarter", better informed, more caring, or just plain "Elite".
Most lefties are not Nazis and your post is waaay off topic. If you need to vent your spleen about them there are many appropriate threads on which to do so. Thanks.
Tolerating Nazis is not enough - they need to be very vocally and clearly opposed. They need to have their arguments undermined and faulted at every turn.
I'm surprised how few posters here really step into debate with Holocaust Deniers. Maybe it's because they don't know WWII well enough to really counter what are often very arcane arguments - which is fine - but too often I suspect it is just this passive willingness to allow free speech.
You laid out a series of characteristics which you claim belong to "Nazis" and I showed where those characteristics are more aptly attributed to the Modern Day Democratic Party and Liberals in general.
Tolerating Nazis is not enough - they need to be very vocally and clearly opposed. They need to have their arguments undermined and faulted at every turn.
I'm surprised how few posters here really step into debate with Holocaust Deniers. Maybe it's because they don't know WWII well enough to really counter what are often very arcane arguments - which is fine - but too often I suspect it is just this passive willingness to allow free speech.
Exactly who are the supposed "nazi's" you speak of?
Exactly who are the supposed "nazi's" you speak of?
On this board Holston and Varelse stand out, but there are two or three others who also deny the Holocaust. One or two more whose names I forget, or who I have on ignore if they are too silly to be dangerous!!
Exactly who are the supposed "nazi's" you speak of?
On this board Holston and Varelse stand out, but there are two or three others who also deny the Holocaust. One or two more whose names I forget, or who I have on ignore if they are too silly to be dangerous!!
Never heard of 'em.
So your definition of a nazi is anyone that denies the holocaust. Interesting.
Even though the progressives really don't server much purpose, I say live and let them live.Few Americans have had no contact with the Nazi type. We even see them on these boards selling their hate for "the inferiors" using stereotypes and generalizations, canards, half-truths and fabrications. They manage to work their hate into every post. The most virulent are easily recognized and marginalized by most Americans but I've long wondered why we tolerate them at all. Certainly our freedoms of thought and expression are key to their existence but there seems to be something more at work. Can it be we all share a bit of their racist and bigoted nature and we keep them as pets to remind us they are not who and what we want to be?
You laid out a series of characteristics which you claim belong to "Nazis" and I showed where those characteristics are more aptly attributed to the Modern Day Democratic Party and Liberals in general.
Then you do not understand what a Nazi is - it is as simple as that.
If you lived in a Nazi country you'd have been arrested and sent to a death camp for even posting on this forum.
I have to say - I find this kind of joking about how you are a victim of Fascism a real insult to the eleven million people who died under Hitlet's rule. It simply is not a joke.
