An Anti-Israel President

[Dr Grump]

I fail to see how offering the Chosen People an all expense paid luxury cruse to their own deserted island.

Where that will be picked up and escorted by armed body guards in stretch limo's.

And driven by a chauffer to their new custom built domiciles.

Could be construed as Genocide??

It's not genocide. It's just a stupid fucking idea....

If the Jews left Israel it would be back to being an arid wasteland within a generation...

He's not talking about them leaving.

He's talking about the Jews in the world being rounded up and put on an island and kept there by force of arms.

Is that Genocide?

No.

gen·o·cide
   /ˈdʒɛnəˌsaɪd/ Show Spelled[jen-uh-sahyd] Show IPA
noun
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

 

[xotoxi]

Who the fuck cares!

We should pull out of the Middle East and let them all kill each other. Then go in and collect the oil.

 

[Synthaholic]

Former Netanyahu Chief of Staff Says Israeli Strike on Iran 'Imminent' - YouTube

Good! Let Israel do it's own wet work. I applauded their hitting the Syrian facility, and I applaud them attacking the Iranian site, but they've got to deal with it, not us!

They can't drop the bombs, then expect us to sacrifice blood while they sit at home, so as not to "inflame the region".

 

[Outback]

It's not genocide. It's just a stupid fucking idea....

If the Jews left Israel it would be back to being an arid wasteland within a generation...

He's not talking about them leaving.

He's talking about the Jews in the world being rounded up and put on an island and kept there by force of arms.

Is that Genocide?

No.

gen·o·cide
   /ˈdʒɛnəˌsaɪd/ Show Spelled[jen-uh-sahyd] Show IPA
noun
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

Removing an entire people from the human race by isolation in a mass movement is clearly genocide.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Genocide: Definition and Controversies

I wonder how many of those 14 million people would die in this mass worldwide (except for the island that is) expulsion? Yep, that's genocide.

 

[Dr Grump]

He's not talking about them leaving.

He's talking about the Jews in the world being rounded up and put on an island and kept there by force of arms.

Is that Genocide?

No.

gen·o·cide
   /ˈdʒɛnəˌsaɪd/ Show Spelled[jen-uh-sahyd] Show IPA
noun
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

Removing an entire people from the human race by isolation in a mass movement is clearly genocide.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Genocide: Definition and Controversies

I wonder how many of those 14 million people would die in this mass worldwide (except for the island that is) expulsion? Yep, that's genocide.

I took the dictionary definition as opposed to some talking heads deciding what it meant at a convention in 1948. Even then, all five of your 'definitions' don't meet the moronic idea proposed by the idiot Sunni....

 

[Ropey]

No.

gen·o·cide
   /ˈdʒɛnəˌsaɪd/ Show Spelled[jen-uh-sahyd] Show IPA
noun
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

Removing an entire people from the human race by isolation in a mass movement is clearly genocide.

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Genocide: Definition and Controversies

I wonder how many of those 14 million people would die in this mass worldwide (except for the island that is) expulsion? Yep, that's genocide.

I took the dictionary definition as opposed to some talking heads deciding what it meant at a convention in 1948. Even then, all five of your 'definitions' don't meet the moronic idea proposed by the idiot Sunni....

They are being removed from humanity. Many will die along the way and all are removed from humanity.

Genocide.

Edit:

These "talking heads"

http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/gncnvntn.htm

They penned the term for the first modern era Genocide (Turkey on the Armenians).

The original of the present Convention shall be deposited in the archives of the United Nations. A certified copy of the Convention shall be transmitted to each Member of the United Nations and to each of the non-member States contemplated in article XI.

Approved and proposed for signature and ratification or accession by General Assembly resolution 260 A (III) of 9 December 1948

ENTRY INTO FORCE: 12 January 1951, under the terms of article XIII

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such

http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/genocide.htm

 

[Dr Grump]

They are being removed from humanity. Many will die along the way and all are removed from humanity.

Genocide.

Ok, so now you're adding various conditions to the premise. Would you like to give a full outline? How they are travelling? What they will be eating? Where this island is (the type of climate)? The infrastructure?

Do they have electricity?

 

[Ropey]

They are being removed from humanity. Many will die along the way and all are removed from humanity.

Genocide.

Ok, so now you're adding various conditions to the premise. Would you like to give a full outline? How they are travelling? What they will be eating? Where this island is (the type of climate)? The infrastructure?

Do they have electricity?

Those details do not matter as the criteria for genocide is met.

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such

After all, the Jews of the world? They are a group. He's talking about herding them all up worldwide.

 

[Outback]

They are being removed from humanity. Many will die along the way and all are removed from humanity.

Genocide.

Ok, so now you're adding various conditions to the premise. Would you like to give a full outline? How they are travelling? What they will be eating? Where this island is (the type of climate)? The infrastructure?

Do they have electricity?

Those details do not matter as the criteria for genocide is met.

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such

After all, the Jews of the world? They are a group. He's talking about herding them all up worldwide.

Not a single Jew left to be with humanity.

Yep, you're on the ball mate.

 

[Jroc]

They are being removed from humanity. Many will die along the way and all are removed from humanity.

Genocide.

Ok, so now you're adding various conditions to the premise. Would you like to give a full outline? How they are travelling? What they will be eating? Where this island is (the type of climate)? The infrastructure?

Do they have electricity?

So do you want to spell out the conditions of which you think it would be ok to do such a thing? To think that way says something about you. Maybe you and Sunni Boy can get together and come up with a good plan.

 

[Ropey]

They are being removed from humanity. Many will die along the way and all are removed from humanity.

Genocide.

Ok, so now you're adding various conditions to the premise. Would you like to give a full outline? How they are travelling? What they will be eating? Where this island is (the type of climate)? The infrastructure?

Do they have electricity?

So do you want to spell out the conditions of which you think it would be ok to do such a thing? To think that way says something about you. Maybe you and Sunni Boy can get together and come up with a good plan.

Nah, he's just arguing with a bit of a different point of view. He thinks Sunni's a dingbat. He's a Grump.

 

[Dr Grump]

They are being removed from humanity. Many will die along the way and all are removed from humanity.

Genocide.

Ok, so now you're adding various conditions to the premise. Would you like to give a full outline? How they are travelling? What they will be eating? Where this island is (the type of climate)? The infrastructure?

Do they have electricity?

So do you want to spell out the conditions of which you think it would be ok to do such a thing? To think that way says something about you. Maybe you and Sunni Boy can get together and come up with a good plan.

You should read the thread before you post....

 

[Jroc]

Ok, so now you're adding various conditions to the premise. Would you like to give a full outline? How they are travelling? What they will be eating? Where this island is (the type of climate)? The infrastructure?

Do they have electricity?

So do you want to spell out the conditions of which you think it would be ok to do such a thing? To think that way says something about you. Maybe you and Sunni Boy can get together and come up with a good plan.

You should read the thread before you post....

I read the thread… I'm responding to your stupid post. It seems to me you want you to discuss how what Sunni boy proposes might not be as bad as Ropey thinks it is, it seems to me that’s a stupid argument on its face. But if you like to discuss such things that’s up to you. I don’t see the point in it

 

[Ropey]

So do you want to spell out the conditions of which you think it would be ok to do such a thing? To think that way says something about you. Maybe you and Sunni Boy can get together and come up with a good plan.

You should read the thread before you post....

I read the thread… I'm responding to your stupid post. It seems to me you want you to discuss how what Sunni boy proposes might not be as bad as Ropey thinks it is, it seems to me that’s a stupid argument on its face. But if you like to discuss such things that’s up to you. I don’t see the point in it

I think he's an Obama supporter with a good deal of distaste for the OP. I can't say as I blame him. The OP and this thread does not look good for Obama in this last 9 months since I created this OP.

In a few years we will know better and this thread very well will still be here. I hope I am.

 

[Jroc]

You should read the thread before you post....

I read the thread… I'm responding to your stupid post. It seems to me you want you to discuss how what Sunni boy proposes might not be as bad as Ropey thinks it is, it seems to me that’s a stupid argument on its face. But if you like to discuss such things that’s up to you. I don’t see the point in it

I think he's an Obama supporter with a good deal of distaste for the OP. I can't say as I blame him. The OP and this thread does not look good for Obama in this last 9 months since I created this OP.

In a few years we will know better and this thread very well will still be here. I hope I am.

Well I hope we don't have to see what happens with a second term of Obama, which is the main point of the thread in my view. Information for the uninformed, that’s a good thing

 

[del]

Removing an entire people from the human race by isolation in a mass movement is clearly genocide.



Genocide: Definition and Controversies

I wonder how many of those 14 million people would die in this mass worldwide (except for the island that is) expulsion? Yep, that's genocide.

I took the dictionary definition as opposed to some talking heads deciding what it meant at a convention in 1948. Even then, all five of your 'definitions' don't meet the moronic idea proposed by the idiot Sunni....

They are being removed from humanity. Many will die along the way and all are removed from humanity.

Genocide.

Edit:

These "talking heads"

Convention on the Punishment and Prevention of the Crime of Genocide

They penned the term for the first modern era Genocide (Turkey on the Armenians).

The original of the present Convention shall be deposited in the archives of the United Nations. A certified copy of the Convention shall be transmitted to each Member of the United Nations and to each of the non-member States contemplated in article XI.

Approved and proposed for signature and ratification or accession by General Assembly resolution 260 A (III) of 9 December 1948

ENTRY INTO FORCE: 12 January 1951, under the terms of article XIII

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such

Web Genocide Documentation Centre Home Page

oh, the humanity

 

[Outback]

As if you know anything about humanity. Bullying old women and men.

 

[del]

As if you know anything about humanity. Bullying old women and men.

how long did it take for the doctor to get the umbilical cord from around your neck?

tough break

 

[Ropey]

Report: Obama won't commit to stopping Iran, US and Israel no longer sharing all Iran intelligence

Newsweek is reporting that with Iran approaching a nuclear weapon, President Obama refuses to commit to Israel that he will go to war to stop Iran, and both Israel and the United States are withholding intelligence information from each other on Iran. Newsweek also reports that while the Mossad tried feeling out Obama on Israel going it alone on Iran, Obama regards his reelection as being at least as important as the other prongs of his equation: handling Israel, keeping Iran from going nuclear and keeping world oil prices in check.

Well before he moved into the White House, Barack Obama began talking to Israel about Iran’s nuclear program, and even then there was mistrust. He met in 2008 with several leading Israelis, including Benjamin Netanyahu—before Netanyahu was elected prime minister—and impressed everyone with his determination to stop Iran from going nuclear. Netanyahu liked much of what he heard, according to a source in his inner circle. What troubled him, however, was that Obama didn’t talk specifically about Israel’s security.

Rather, he discussed Iran in the context of a broader non-proliferation policy. “He showed much command of the issues, even though it was months before he got elected,” says the Netanyahu source. “It was clear that he read and internalized things. But when he spoke about Iran and his opposition to the nuclearization of Iran ... the Israeli factor did not play prominently.”
That's a very accurate read of Obama, as we will see throughout - and have been seeing for the last five years. Obama could care less about Israel. He does care about nuclear non-proliferation. He wishes to avoid a war at all costs - including (God forbid) the destruction of the State of Israel.
According to an American official who was involved, [Mossad Director General] Tamir Pardo [who was in Washington recently. CiJ] wanted to take the pulse of the Obama administration and determine what the consequences would be if Israel bombed Iranian nuclear sites over American objections. Pardo raised many questions, according to this source: “What is our posture on Iran? Are we ready to bomb? Would we [do so later]? What does it mean if [Israel] does it anyway?” As it is, Israel has stopped sharing a significant amount of information with Washington regarding its own military preparations.

Israel Matzav: Report: Obama won't commit to stopping Iran, US and Israel no longer sharing all Iran intelligence

Good post Jroc.

 

[Dr Grump]

So do you want to spell out the conditions of which you think it would be ok to do such a thing? To think that way says something about you. Maybe you and Sunni Boy can get together and come up with a good plan.

You should read the thread before you post....

I read the thread… I'm responding to your stupid post. It seems to me you want you to discuss how what Sunni boy proposes might not be as bad as Ropey thinks it is, it seems to me that’s a stupid argument on its face. But if you like to discuss such things that’s up to you. I don’t see the point in it

That's not what I'm saying you idiot....And if you don't see the point, STFU....