An Anti-Israel President

Quit being so dramatic Ropey.

They would taken by luxury ships to the island.

Where limousines would pick them up at the dock and take them to their newly build homes. :cool:

Sunni fishing for reps again from the Ropey haters. Sunni boy is a rep whore:eusa_eh:
LOL, So are you going to play the poor little Ropey victim card now? :lol:

Nah "Poor little Ropey" Not hardly he puts all you haters to same, especially that one time moderator
 
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we should now, and should have always, stayed the hell out of the middle east. i can't believe a country of such intelligent people can be so stupid to get in the middle of that mess.

idiots.
 
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Zionist Jews expect people to buy into their BS 100% with No exceptions.

If you only agree with them 99.99%

Then they will label you anti-semitic and start calling you Hitler.

That's just how they are. :doubt:

No, you label yourself anti-semitic with these (see below) posts. Then you say you are moderate.

I am not anti-semitic at all.

And actually worry that people will finally get fed up with the Jews and cause them harm.

History has shown this to be the case over and over;

as Jews have been killed and driven out of countless countries throughout history.

My solution to the Jewish problem.

Would be to round them up world wide and find and island to quarantine them on.

There are several islands in the world that could easily contain the 13 million Jews that currently reside in various nations and Israel.

This way the Jews could build the ultimate Hebrew society they have always dreamed of.

Several gun boats would patrol the waters around the island to prevent any Jews from trying to escape.

This way the Jews could be protected from harm; and the world could finally have peace and security.

Thus a Win = Win for both Jews and Gentiles :thup:

Mass moving of an entire people to an island to be kept there by force of arms is genocide.

I wonder how many people would die in this mass move you advocate. :eusa_shhh:

Mass moving of an entire people to an island to be kept there by force of arms is genocide.

I wonder how many people would die in this mass move you advocate. :eusa_shhh:
Quit being so dramatic Ropey.

They would taken by luxury ships to the island.

Where limousines would pick them up at the dock and take them to their newly build homes. :cool:

No Sunni. You advocate Genocide. :eusa_shhh:
 
No Sunni. You advocate Genocide. :eusa_shhh:
No Ropey. I do not advocate Genocide. :eusa_shhh:

Yes Sunni Man, I think you do advocate genocide. Create a thread in the flame zone saying you don't and see the responses. Maybe I'm wrong.

I am not anti-semitic at all.

And actually worry that people will finally get fed up with the Jews and cause them harm.

History has shown this to be the case over and over;

as Jews have been killed and driven out of countless countries throughout history.

My solution to the Jewish problem.

Would be to round them up world wide and find and island to quarantine them on.

There are several islands in the world that could easily contain the 13 million Jews that currently reside in various nations and Israel.

This way the Jews could build the ultimate Hebrew society they have always dreamed of.

Several gun boats would patrol the waters around the island to prevent any Jews from trying to escape.

This way the Jews could be protected from harm; and the world could finally have peace and security.

Thus a Win = Win for both Jews and Gentiles :thup:
 
I fail to see how offering the Chosen People an all expense paid luxury cruse to their own deserted island.

Where that will be picked up and escorted by armed body guards in stretch limo's.

And driven by a chauffer to their new custom built domiciles.

Could be construed as Genocide??
 
I fail to see how you can think of moving an entire people from the entire world (other than your island) and transporting them entirely to an island to be held by force of arms is anything but genocide.
 
I fail to see how you can think of moving an entire people from the entire world (other than your island) and transporting them entirely to an island to be held by force of arms is anything but genocide.
Just think of it as an extended vacation. :eusa_angel:

No, I think of it as genocide.
 
I fail to see how you can think of moving an entire people from the entire world (other than your island) and transporting them entirely to an island to be held by force of arms is anything but genocide.
Just think of it as an extended vacation. :eusa_angel:

No, I think of it as genocide.
Well good for you.

I think this subject has about ran it's course.

So I am through talking about it. :cool:
 
Zionist Jews expect people to buy into their BS 100% with No exceptions.

If you only agree with them 99.99%

Then they will label you anti-semitic and start calling you Hitler.

That's just how they are. :doubt:
Well, I don't know about all that, and that's not what I'm arguing.

I'm arguing that posting three opinion pieces as your OP proof that Obama is anti-Israel is not to be taken seriously.

I just have not seen any evidence that President Obama is doing anything differently than Bush, when it comes to Israel.
 
Say what you will about President Obama's approach to Israel—or of his relationship with American Jews—he sure has mastered the concept of chutzpah.

When this president wants to make a show of his exquisite diplomatic sensitivity—burgers with Medvedev, bows to Abdullah, New Year's greetings to the mullahs—he knows how. And when he wants to show his contempt, he knows how, too.

The contempt was again on display Sunday, when Mr. Obama spoke to the Aipac policy conference in Washington. The speech was stocked with the perennial bromides about U.S.-Israeli friendship, which brought an anxious crowd to its feet a few times. As for the rest, it was a thin tissue of falsehoods, rhetorical legerdemain, telling omissions and self-contradictions. Let's count the ways..

The president's peace proposal is a formula for war.

OB-OA227_glovie_DV_20110523185647.jpg

Mr. Obama neglected to mention these points on Sunday, hence the telling omission. But the essence of his proposal is that Israel should cede territory, put itself into a weaker position, and then hope for the best. This doesn't even amount to a land-for-peace formula.

That's not all. Mr. Obama got some applause Sunday by calling for a "non-militarized" Palestinian state. But how does that square with his comment, presumably applicable to a future Palestine, that "every state has a right to self-defense"? Mr. Obama was also cheered for his references to Israel as a "Jewish state." But why then obfuscate on the question of Palestinian refugees, whose political purpose over 63 years has been to destroy Israel as a Jewish state?

And then there was that line that "we will hold the Palestinians accountable for their actions and their rhetoric." Applause! But can Mr. Obama offer a single example of having done that as president, except perhaps at the level of a State Department press release?

What, then, would a pro-Israel president do? He would tell Palestinians that there is no right of return. He would make the reform of the Arab mindset toward Israel the centerpiece of his peace efforts. He would outline hard and specific consequences should Hamas join the government.

Such a vision could lay the groundwork for peace. What Mr. Obama offered is a formula for war, one that he will pursue in a second term. Assuming, of course, that he gets on e!

America's President's background is clear as he has a long association with 'Jew haters'.

Fact... One of BHO's best friends in Chicago was Rashid Khaliki, former PLO spokesman under Arafat who supported terrorist strikes on Israeli government targets. At a 2003 pro-Palestinian banquet then Illinois State Senator Obama sang Khalid's praises.

Fact... Obama's Chicago mentor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, called for a boycott of Israel for its 'apartheid' against Palestinians while Obama sat in his pews. Wright even reprinted Hamas terror manifesto against Israel in his church bulletin. Wright, a one time member of the Nation of Islam, gave dozens of Jew-bashing sermons while mentoring Obama.

Fact... Another close associate of Obama in Chicago is the anti-Semite Louis Farrakhhan.

So, is Obama anti-Israel? Suffice to say his circle of friends for over twenty years most certainly are anti-Semite.

And his speech clarified his intent. :doubt:

You're a fucking idiot....
 
Yes, you lap it up Synth and I don't. It's the Arabs that won't be at a table with Jews and who won't shake hands with Jews, not the other way around which is what Panetta said.

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And time will indeed tell who is correct even if I believe that time has already told and that what Panetta said shows the a clear demarcation line between the Bush administration and the Obama one.

Say what you will about President Obama's approach to Israel—or of his relationship with American Jews—he sure has mastered the concept of chutzpah.

The president's peace proposal is a formula for war.

OB-OA227_glovie_DV_20110523185647.jpg

Mr. Obama neglected to mention these points on Sunday, hence the telling omission. But the essence of his proposal is that Israel should cede territory, put itself into a weaker position, and then hope for the best. This doesn't even amount to a land-for-peace formula.

That's not all. Mr. Obama got some applause Sunday by calling for a "non-militarized" Palestinian state. But how does that square with his comment, presumably applicable to a future Palestine, that "every state has a right to self-defense"? Mr. Obama was also cheered for his references to Israel as a "Jewish state." But why then obfuscate on the question of Palestinian refugees, whose political purpose over 63 years has been to destroy Israel as a Jewish state?

And then there was that line that "we will hold the Palestinians accountable for their actions and their rhetoric." Applause! But can Mr. Obama offer a single example of having done that as president, except perhaps at the level of a State Department press release?

What, then, would a pro-Israel president do? He would tell Palestinians that there is no right of return. He would make the reform of the Arab mindset toward Israel the centerpiece of his peace efforts. He would outline hard and specific consequences should Hamas join the government.

Such a vision could lay the groundwork for peace. What Mr. Obama offered is a formula for war, one that he will pursue in a second term. Assuming, of course, that he gets on e!

America's President's background is clear as he has a long association with 'Jew haters'.

Fact... One of BHO's best friends in Chicago was Rashid Khaliki, former PLO spokesman under Arafat who supported terrorist strikes on Israeli government targets. At a 2003 pro-Palestinian banquet then Illinois State Senator Obama sang Khalid's praises.

Fact... Obama's Chicago mentor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, called for a boycott of Israel for its 'apartheid' against Palestinians while Obama sat in his pews. Wright even reprinted Hamas terror manifesto against Israel in his church bulletin. Wright, a one time member of the Nation of Islam, gave dozens of Jew-bashing sermons while mentoring Obama.

Fact... Another close associate of Obama in Chicago is the anti-Semite Louis Farrakhhan.

So, is Obama anti-Israel? Suffice to say his circle of friends for over twenty years most certainly are anti-Semite.

And his speech clarified his intent. :doubt:

In a few months this OP will be a year old and Obama's intent with regards to Israel has become clearer by the month.

Israel must get to the damned peace table

Why "Must" they? There won't be any Arabs at the table. Just their intermediaries because the Arabs refuse to be in the same room or shake the hands with a Jew. You've got to set the table before there's any eating and the guests must ALL come to the table.

So now Obama has his entire diplomatic staff saying that Israel is refusing to negotiate with Arabs (Palestinians) at a table where they won't be?

:cuckoo:

Some can lap that up. I don't.
 
I fail to see how offering the Chosen People an all expense paid luxury cruse to their own deserted island.

Where that will be picked up and escorted by armed body guards in stretch limo's.

And driven by a chauffer to their new custom built domiciles.

Could be construed as Genocide??

It's not genocide. It's just a stupid fucking idea....

If the Jews left Israel it would be back to being an arid wasteland within a generation...
 
I fail to see how offering the Chosen People an all expense paid luxury cruse to their own deserted island.

Where that will be picked up and escorted by armed body guards in stretch limo's.

And driven by a chauffer to their new custom built domiciles.

Could be construed as Genocide??

It's not genocide. It's just a stupid fucking idea....

If the Jews left Israel it would be back to being an arid wasteland within a generation...

He's not talking about them leaving.

He's talking about the Jews in the world being rounded up and put on an island and kept there by force of arms.

Is that Genocide?
 
I said:


Where is YOUR fact-based reporting? Show us how Obama is anti-Israel.


I am doubting that I will get an answer.

See above. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. Others see it while you continue to blindly ask for more proof.

Leon Panetta, U.S. Defense Secretary, Urges Israel To 'Just Get To The Damned Table'


*sigh*

Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice Urges Israel to Divide Jerusalem


Rice Urges Israel and Palestinians to Sustain Momentum



Rice Urges Israel to Ease Gaza Plight



I could probably post 10 more. But that's 3 different news sources, all using the word 'urge'. because the U.S. has been urging Israel to stop fucking around with this for decades.

But all we ever get is this kind of childish bullshit:

Ropey said:
Israel has already agreed to get to the negotiating table which the Quartet also talk about on numerous occasions, it is the Palestinians who have refused to come to a table, to sit with Jews or shake hands with Jews.
You remind me of the North and South Koreans refusing to talk, and cancelling peace meetings because they couldn't agree on the height of the small flags on the negotiating table.


Who gives a shit?



Ropey said:
Israel wants to discuss without any preconditions, like a freeze of settlement activity or even any structure to the talks. Israel is willing to sit with Arabs and shake their hands.


If they truly did, they would be making very public call-outs, shaming them into meetings. Instead, they whine about the other side.

And the Palestinians do the same damn thing.
 
I said:

Where is YOUR fact-based reporting? Show us how Obama is anti-Israel.

I am doubting that I will get an answer.

See above. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. Others see it while you continue to blindly ask for more proof.

Leon Panetta, U.S. Defense Secretary, Urges Israel To 'Just Get To The Damned Table'


*sigh*

Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice Urges Israel to Divide Jerusalem


Rice Urges Israel and Palestinians to Sustain Momentum



Rice Urges Israel to Ease Gaza Plight


I could probably post 10 more. But that's 3 different news sources, all using the word 'urge'. because the U.S. has been urging Israel to stop fucking around with this for decades.

But all we ever get is this kind of childish bullshit:


You remind me of the North and South Koreans refusing to talk, and cancelling peace meetings because they couldn't agree on the height of the small flags on the negotiating table.


Who gives a shit?



Ropey said:
Israel wants to discuss without any preconditions, like a freeze of settlement activity or even any structure to the talks. Israel is willing to sit with Arabs and shake their hands.


If they truly did, they would be making very public call-outs, shaming them into meetings. Instead, they whine about the other side.

And the Palestinians do the same damn thing.

I remind you of the North Koreans? :lol:

Israel is being urged. The Palestinians who refuse to sit at the negotiating table and will not shake hands with a Jew are not being urged.

During the Bush era both sides were being urged.

That's a major policy change even if you can't see it.

Now, you said who gives a shit about Arabs not being willing to be at the negotiating table or shaking hands with Jews.

Why the Jews of course. :razz:
 

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