An Homage To The Democrat Party

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12. Socialists, communists, collectivists demand the end of the profit incentive.


There is no substitute for capitalism….certainly not socialism.

“The Left’s concept of materialism broadens into the overarching desire to see every individual materially equal. The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.”
Dennis Prager


13. "Dr. Sebastian Gorka appeared on 'Fox and Friends' on Saturday to discuss the left's growing desire to embrace socialism as their party platform. Dr. Gorka, whose family suffered under socialism, warned that this economic system "crushes human souls" and those who favor it "have no idea what [they] are talking about.

"My parents lived and actually suffered under fascism and then socialism. Let's not forget that those two are linked...the phrase Nazi actually comes from'national socialist workers party.' Millions, hundreds of millions suffered under that system. I saw it for myself after the fall of the Berlin wall. I went to live behind the former Iron curtain for 15 years.

"There is no equality under socialism, it's a lie. Whether you're in Cuba, whether you're in the Soviet Union, whether you're in China today, North Korea. A tiny number of people have all the wealth and all the power and everybody else suffers," Gorka continued. "And if you disagree with that elite, the most scary thing of all is that you will be persecuted and sometimes disappear and sometimes you will be killed. The toll of socialism of the last 100 years is 100 million people killed by Cynthia Nixon's favorite system."
Sebastian Gorka Has A Message For Socialist-Loving 'Lunatics' -- 'This System Crushes Human Souls'

 

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Kogawa: Godard criticizes the present cinema system in which the audience must pay and suggests instead that the producer should pay the audience. Gilles Deleuze says that you already pointed out a similar thing in that a psychoanalyst should pay his or her patients.

Guattari: I said, after making the audience laugh, that since the psychoanalyst works and the patient also works, both of them should be paid. After this, the chairperson quickly stopped the discussion.

Kogawa: I think it's a very important point.

Guattari: Yes, the important point the societies in which we find ourselves -- societies that we can call capitalistic and that equally concern the countries of the Eastand of the West -- only valorize a certain form of production. We should not, in my opinion,be satisfied with the Marxist division of exchange value and use value. Rather, I think that we must introduce two additional forms of value: "values of desire" as well as what I call "machinic values." And exchange values should reflect these values of desire and machinic values. Machinic values are values of creation, of invention. Today, a technological innovation or scientific equation will take its value from the register of exchange values if it can be found useful in the immediate process of production. But there are also values of aesthetic and scientific creation that do not have an immediate effect on exchange values and which, for this reason, actually deserve to be financed.....Maybe its a utopian vision, but it's something that permits us to understand and critique the mode of capitalist valorization. It's a question of the objective and the social division of labor....Capitalism has constructed its system of hierarchy, of social segregation, on the scarcity of produced goods. But machinic values and values of desire do not depend upon the scarcity of goods. We can thus imaging a society in which human activities would not be under the dictatorship of the economic values of scarcity and this is what I call the perspective of a "molecular revolution."....But today capitalism artificially produces and maintains scarcity by starving a certain segment of the planet. It's absurd. To sustain this, it produces scarcity, for example, the scarcity of the university. The whole world cannot go study, but why? And scarcity in the means of expression in the media, but why?'
(Guattari, Machinic Eros: Writings on Japan)

 

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Yes, there is such a thing as nazism. Nazism is morality itself (Nick Land, Making It with Death: Remarks on Thanatos and Desiring Production, Journal of the British Society for Phenomenology)

 

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[Edgetho]

7. Today is Sunday…..so it is appropriate to mention the 'morality' of socialism.

All six…. socialism, communism, fascism, Nazism, Progressivism and Liberalism are famously antithetical to religion. Socialism’s doctrines fit that description.

With respect, there is no such things as 'nazism'. It does not and has not ever existed.

The word 'nazi' is a shortened nickname for the German Political party NationalSozialistische Deutsche ArbeiterPartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). In the German Pronunciation, the word 'national' sounds like 'nazional'. Hence, nazi.

Just like 'sozi' was a shortened nickname for socialists at the time. Germans make a lot 'z' noises

What you call 'nazism' is merely socialism with a nationalist bent. Hitler was a socialist. And a nationalist. Nationalists can be -- Anything. Except libertarians. libertarians piss me off

The difference is/was, most socialists then and now are/were International socialists. Hitler really didn't care about the rest of the world. He was only interested in German socialism.

"With respect, there is no such things as 'nazism'....What you call 'nazism' is merely socialism with a nationalist bent. "


Doesn't mean that 'there's no such thing as Nazism."



I believe I correctly placed it with the other Leftist views.



b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




These systems are basically the same: socialism, communism, fascism, Nazism, Progressivism and Liberalism, as all fall into category b. The alternative is that of the Founders of America, conservatives, the Right.

Oh…and one more thing:

The category ‘b’s’ are all totalitarian.
And as the Democrats/Liberals/Progressives have revealed that they favor infanticide, none of the six value the sanctity of human life.

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

The point I'm trying to make is -- The greatest success of American socialism in the 20th Century was convincing the USA that WWII Germany wasn't socialist.

They were. Completely and absolutely socialist. Without ANY doubt, Hitler and his party were socialist.

But the Russian communists prevailed on US Newspapers to call the German National socialists 'Nazis'. In fact, if you go back to that era, you can tell which Papers were pro-communist and which weren't by how they referred to the German National Socialists

The pro-American papers referred to the NSDAP as National Socialists because, that's what they were.

The New Yawk Slimes called them 'Nazis'. A political party that has never existed. They were National Socialists.

Stalin didn't like us calling them National Socialists because he thought it cast socialism in a poor light. It did not. It cast socialism in a CORRECT light.

How can you defeat something when you can't even identify it properly??

As long as dimocrap scum can get away with calling Hitler and his henchmen 'Nazis' -- They're winning.

They were socialists. It's just that GD simple.

“But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.”
― George Orwell, 1984

 

[danielpalos]

only socialists Require a work ethic.

Capitalism is about Voluntary social transactions that result in mutually beneficial trade.

 

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7. Today is Sunday…..so it is appropriate to mention the 'morality' of socialism.

All six…. socialism, communism, fascism, Nazism, Progressivism and Liberalism are famously antithetical to religion. Socialism’s doctrines fit that description.

With respect, there is no such things as 'nazism'. It does not and has not ever existed.

The word 'nazi' is a shortened nickname for the German Political party NationalSozialistische Deutsche ArbeiterPartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). In the German Pronunciation, the word 'national' sounds like 'nazional'. Hence, nazi.

Just like 'sozi' was a shortened nickname for socialists at the time. Germans make a lot 'z' noises

What you call 'nazism' is merely socialism with a nationalist bent. Hitler was a socialist. And a nationalist. Nationalists can be -- Anything. Except libertarians. libertarians piss me off

The difference is/was, most socialists then and now are/were International socialists. Hitler really didn't care about the rest of the world. He was only interested in German socialism.

"With respect, there is no such things as 'nazism'....What you call 'nazism' is merely socialism with a nationalist bent. "


Doesn't mean that 'there's no such thing as Nazism."



I believe I correctly placed it with the other Leftist views.



b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




These systems are basically the same: socialism, communism, fascism, Nazism, Progressivism and Liberalism, as all fall into category b. The alternative is that of the Founders of America, conservatives, the Right.

Oh…and one more thing:

The category ‘b’s’ are all totalitarian.
And as the Democrats/Liberals/Progressives have revealed that they favor infanticide, none of the six value the sanctity of human life.

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

The point I'm trying to make is -- The greatest success of American socialism in the 20th Century was convincing the USA that WWII Germany wasn't socialist.

They were. Completely and absolutely socialist. Without ANY doubt, Hitler and his party were socialist.

But the Russian communists prevailed on US Newspapers to call the German National socialists 'Nazis'. In fact, if you go back to that era, you can tell which Papers were pro-communist and which weren't by how they referred to the German National Socialists

The pro-American papers referred to the NSDAP as National Socialists because, that's what they were.

The New Yawk Slimes called them 'Nazis'. A political party that has never existed. They were National Socialists.

Stalin didn't like us calling them National Socialists because he thought it cast socialism in a poor light. It did not. It cast socialism in a CORRECT light.

How can you defeat something when you can't even identify it properly??

As long as dimocrap scum can get away with calling Hitler and his henchmen 'Nazis' -- They're winning.

They were socialists. It's just that GD simple.

“But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.”
― George Orwell, 1984

"The greatest success of American socialism in the 20th Century was convincing the USA that WWII Germany wasn't socialist. "



1. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



2. (Now...take the Holocaust as an example....although one American President actually authorized concentration camps for his citizens, and while Nazis, Fascists, and Communists were once one big, comfortable association with American Progressives and that very same President, the catalog of Nazi crimes caused American Progressives to suddenly claim that....no, Nazis were not really of the Left...they had to be the very opposite.)




3. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union." Manly, p. 48

 

[danielpalos]

what can capitalism do without the socialism of Government?

 

[Edgetho]

what can capitalism do without the socialism of Government?

You talk out of your ass

 

[danielpalos]

what can capitalism do without the socialism of Government?

You talk out of your ass

ad hominems are worthless, valid arguments are not.

 

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Post #65 wrote: 'But the Russian communists prevailed on U.S. Newspapers to call the German socialists 'Nazis.' '

Storch's 'social fascists' appear in several places in her Red Chicago, and we will take a closer look at these contexts. According to Hardt and Negri necessary labor and surplus labor is the pivot of impossibility of socialism, which can be compared with Wisconsin's diary industry. 'Voluntary social transactions that result in mutually beneficial trade' (post #66) is a concept with which to compare Wisconsin's failing dairy industry, which comes complete with farmer suicides:

25 Feb 2019 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Dairyland in Distress, A Special Report: Empty Barns, Brokens Lives
'.... Some farmers say the U.S. needs a milk supply management system, like Canada has, that imposes production quotas and protects farmers' income. Critics of Canada's system say it has resulted in trade barriers to U.S. dairy products. "But whether the answer is a system similar to Canada's supply management program or something completely different, we can't just sit back and continue down the same current path without trying to find something that actually works for farmers"...."I am angry at a system that has been broken for so many years." '

How Canada's Supply Management System Works
Supply management in Canada — a primer | CBC News

 

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OP's post #1 certainly would invoke the ambiguity of the Bernie Sanders Impossible Trident.

May 2017 Capitalism and Communism - Two Economic Systems with the Same Goal
Capitalism and Communism - Two Economic Systems With the Same Goal

Suggested reading for Dem party as socialist party should include the social democrats mentioned in Willan, Puppetmasters: The Political Use of Terrorism in Italy. Willan's account is very much aklin to the image of the Clintons.

 

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Pre-Marx socialist thought includes Saint-Simon.

What is the Difference Between Communism and Socialism?
What is the difference between Communism and Socialism?
'....It's intellectual history is more varied than that of communism....Early versions of socialist thought were articulated by Henri de Saint-Simon (1760-1825).'

 

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Post #67: Goldberg's liberal fascism and the Stalin connection has a variant viewpoint in Woolf SJ, The Nature of Fascism, wherein a centripetal force was bolstering fascist-nationalist tendencies in Russia. This nationalism is akin to Trump's jobs for Americans, or governor Walker's $3 billion Foxconn bill, a factory that may never be built.

 

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9. Socialism advances the view that need creates rights…..If I need something, e.g., I’m poor….I have the special right to demand it from others…and the less successful one is, the more of these ‘rights’ they have….no matter the reason for that lack of success.




And this view is in accord with socialists, like Ocasio-Cortez: “Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal offers 'economic security' for those 'unwilling to work.'”
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/07/ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-offers-economic-security-for-those-unwilling-to-work.html

Is this religion based? Nope.

The Bible is specific about what God expects of able-bodied members of society. In 2 Thessalonians 3:10, Paul said, “If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat”




Socialism breaks at least three rules of the Bible:

1.Idolatry: one should worship God, not the state

2. Thievery…socialism is theft; government takes from earners, and gives to whomever it deems worthy.

3. Jealousy….one should not covet one’s neighbor’s property. That’s why the discussion of ‘income inequality’ has no place in our society.

"Nation Breathes Sigh Of Relief As Ocasio-Cortez Comes Out Against Having Children
February 25th, 2019

U.S.—The nation breathed a collective sigh of relief Monday while watching footage in which Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez appeared to come out against the concept of reproducing.

Stating they realized that we really dodged a bullet this time, citizens all over the country expressed their sudden sense of comfort and serenity at the fact that Ocasio-Cortez would probably never have children. Fear and trepidation had swept the nation upon the realization that Ocasio-Cortez likely possessed the capability to reproduce actual human children, whom she would then ingrain with her values and politics for their entire childhoods before they would go on to have political careers of their own.

"This is a huge burden off my chest," said Lyle Billings of Lawrence, Kansas. "I suddenly realized that there could be two, three, or even four little Ocasio-Cortezes running around one day. So I totally support the congresswoman's position against having children. It's really what's best for the nation as a whole."
Nation Breathes Sigh Of Relief As Ocasio-Cortez Comes Out Against Having Children
While the nation is typically baffled at Ocasio-Cortez's positions, her bold stand against having children has become her most popular policy position yet, garnering a 97% approval rating.

 

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some women love "breaking in the new guys" and may not want to be burdened.

 

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Or….Remedial Education: Socialism 101

CliffsNotes version: Socialism is theft.

Now, the details.



1.There is this definition of socialism:
“ any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state Definition of SOCIALISM




2. Recognizing how odious this system would be for any who favor liberty, ersatz socialists like to put ‘democratic’ in front of the word, as though that makes any difference. As the saying goes, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.
The Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

The Socialist International boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
and
The Grasp of Socialist International



“”The Socialist International carries the torch for Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, V.I. Lenin, Leon Trotzky, and Josef Stalin. Pay no attention to the desperate attempts by socialists to distance themselves from Stalin. For our purposes, it suffices to observe that every single tenet of the Socialist International is the exact opposite of the principles upon which America was founded, and which define the U.S. Constitution. DSA/USA, the "Democratic Socialists of America" are the U.S. arm of the Socialist International. They share the symbol of the fist holding the rose, and they share the tasks to be accomplished - in our case, an altogether different America. You may verify all this at www.dsausa.org.Putting the Cards on the Table
Putting the Cards on the Table




3. The last presidential election was interesting in that the most powerful political party ran as their two top candidates, a socialist and a career criminal.

At this time they've decided to go with socialism.

"The “Green New Deal” congressional resolution from Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...As of Feb. 9, the resolution has 65 co-sponsors from the House (not counting two non-voting representatives), as well as 11 from the Senate. Most of the announced presidential candidates, several of whom are in the Senate, have signed on,...."
The Weak Rollout of the Green New Deal | RealClearPolitics


So, socialism is the Democrat ticket to the White House.

More to follow.....

NYC Leftwing newspaper:


"Socialism talk will sink Democrats: How left-wing overreach could backfire big-time in 2020

I don’t quite know what a handbasket is, but the Democratic Party is heading in one to electoral hell with its talk of socialism and reparations. Given a Republican incumbent who has never exceeded 50% in Gallup’s approval ratings poll and who won the presidency thanks to a dysfunctional Electoral College, the party is nevertheless determined to give Donald Trump a fair shot at re-election by sabotaging itself. In fact, it’s veering so far to the left it could lose an election in 1950s Bulgaria."
Socialism talk will sink Democrats: How left-wing overreach could backfire big-time in 2020





Go, Democrats, go!!!!!!!

 

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9. Socialism advances the view that need creates rights…..If I need something, e.g., I’m poor….I have the special right to demand it from others…and the less successful one is, the more of these ‘rights’ they have….no matter the reason for that lack of success.




And this view is in accord with socialists, like Ocasio-Cortez: “Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal offers 'economic security' for those 'unwilling to work.'”
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/07/ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-offers-economic-security-for-those-unwilling-to-work.html

Is this religion based? Nope.

The Bible is specific about what God expects of able-bodied members of society. In 2 Thessalonians 3:10, Paul said, “If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat”




Socialism breaks at least three rules of the Bible:

1.Idolatry: one should worship God, not the state

2. Thievery…socialism is theft; government takes from earners, and gives to whomever it deems worthy.

3. Jealousy….one should not covet one’s neighbor’s property. That’s why the discussion of ‘income inequality’ has no place in our society.