And obama spoke…..and the gates of Hell opened….obama to release 6,000 felons today...

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

Wow are you a partisan hack. The Koch brothers are behind this initiative and for once I agree with them. Non violent criminals are costing us way too much keeping them in jail for 5 to 10 years. Better to let him serve one year and then find them $20,000 and then put them on probation and monitor them. Better to do that then spend 30000 dollars a year housing and feeding these people and turning them into even more violent criminals than they were before they went in. If you don't know our justice system is f***** up and needs to be fixed even the most evil people on your party understand this well I understand it's costing them money that they don't want to spend which is the only reason they're seen clearly on this issue. There's also a push to take away the question on an application have you ever been convicted of a felony. Why make it harder for somebody who served their time to find a job than it already is you ass hole

I'm not an employer but I am a landlord. In the beginning, I was all for giving people a second chance such as felons. One time they almost burned my house totally to the ground. Another time they gutted my apartment so badly it cost me thousands to repair and remodel.

Now I have a policy: no felons apply. It's the only reasonable thing to do since they are trouble, and I can't blame employers for doing the same.

Should employers or you be allowed to give lie detectors?

No need to, the information is easy to find. There are hundreds of agencies on the internet that will give you the criminal record of anybody you type in. I now use those agencies along with reverse telephone number lookup to detect liars.

 

[koshergrl]

Know when the problems with the prison system started? When they decided to privatize the prisons. When that happened, any program to help them become useful citizens (learning a trade, getting an education, etc.), was axed because it wasn't "profitable".

And............if there are no prisoners, the corporation that owns the prison doesn't make money, so they team up with law enforcement to jail as many as possible, for whatever they can, even if it's someone who is non violent who committed a victimless crime.

People who commit non violent victimless crimes (smoking cannabis, jay walking, etc.) should be let off with no more than a fine.

So who's in prison for jaywalking or just smoking a joint?

God you people just make up ship from the top of your head.

Actually, I got locked up for a month for having a personal use amount (less than 3 oz. is the limit) in my house. The neighbors called because they smelled something coming from my apartment.

Yes. You can be locked up for smoking a joint.

I also remember that I was walking home one day and had a pipe in my pocket that had cannabis residue on it. I got stopped and searched, they found the pipe, and I spent a week in jail for a paraphenelia charge.

Five weeks isn't hard time, and you weren't in prison, loser.

Being that you've never been in jail, you're talking out your ass.
Your extensive experience with long stays in mental health facilities does not compare.

I worked in a jail, lol. I also worked two years in a lock down juvenile facility. Not that that experience is required to be able to distinguish hard time from loser languishing in county because you're an idiot with no money for bail.

 

[paulitician]

A drop in a bucket. We need to release many many more Citizens who don't belong in cages. Let's start with all non-violent drug offenders being released immediately.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A drop in a bucket. We need to release many many more Citizens who don't belong in cages. Let's start with all non-violent drug offenders being released immediately.

Good idea. And when they need money to buy more drugs, let's hope they visit your home first while you're working.

 

[paulitician]

A drop in a bucket. We need to release many many more Citizens who don't belong in cages. Let's start with all non-violent drug offenders being released immediately.

Good idea. And when they need money to buy more drugs, let's hope they visit your home first while you're working.

Being charged with burglary or other theft charges, is not a drug offense. People steal for all sorts of reasons. Drugs is only one of them.

 

[2aguy]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

Wow are you a partisan hack. The Koch brothers are behind this initiative and for once I agree with them. Non violent criminals are costing us way too much keeping them in jail for 5 to 10 years. Better to let him serve one year and then find them $20,000 and then put them on probation and monitor them. Better to do that then spend 30000 dollars a year housing and feeding these people and turning them into even more violent criminals than they were before they went in. If you don't know our justice system is f***** up and needs to be fixed even the most evil people on your party understand this well I understand it's costing them money that they don't want to spend which is the only reason they're seen clearly on this issue. There's also a push to take away the question on an application have you ever been convicted of a felony. Why make it harder for somebody who served their time to find a job than it already is you ass hole

I'm not an employer but I am a landlord. In the beginning, I was all for giving people a second chance such as felons. One time they almost burned my house totally to the ground. Another time they gutted my apartment so badly it cost me thousands to repair and remodel.

Now I have a policy: no felons apply. It's the only reasonable thing to do since they are trouble, and I can't blame employers for doing the same.

Should employers or you be allowed to give lie detectors?

Yes...considering if there employee rapes a customer....guess who is getting sued.....

 

[2aguy]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

Wow are you a partisan hack. The Koch brothers are behind this initiative and for once I agree with them. Non violent criminals are costing us way too much keeping them in jail for 5 to 10 years. Better to let him serve one year and then find them $20,000 and then put them on probation and monitor them. Better to do that then spend 30000 dollars a year housing and feeding these people and turning them into even more violent criminals than they were before they went in. If you don't know our justice system is f***** up and needs to be fixed even the most evil people on your party understand this well I understand it's costing them money that they don't want to spend which is the only reason they're seen clearly on this issue. There's also a push to take away the question on an application have you ever been convicted of a felony. Why make it harder for somebody who served their time to find a job than it already is you ass hole

Nope...it is cheaper to keep criminals locked up....non violent drug offenders are non violent for the offense they are captured for......no telling what else they have done to maintain their drug habits or sell their drugs.....

 

[2aguy]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

Wow are you a partisan hack. The Koch brothers are behind this initiative and for once I agree with them. Non violent criminals are costing us way too much keeping them in jail for 5 to 10 years. Better to let him serve one year and then find them $20,000 and then put them on probation and monitor them. Better to do that then spend 30000 dollars a year housing and feeding these people and turning them into even more violent criminals than they were before they went in. If you don't know our justice system is f***** up and needs to be fixed even the most evil people on your party understand this well I understand it's costing them money that they don't want to spend which is the only reason they're seen clearly on this issue. There's also a push to take away the question on an application have you ever been convicted of a felony. Why make it harder for somebody who served their time to find a job than it already is you ass hole

There's also a push to take away the question on an application have you ever been convicted of a felony. Why make it harder for somebody who served their time to find a job than it already is you ass hole

So your non violent felon turns out to actually be a violent felon who was simply arrested during a non violent crime....goes out, rapes and murders a customer....are you going to help defend the employer who had no clue they were hiring a monster?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A drop in a bucket. We need to release many many more Citizens who don't belong in cages. Let's start with all non-violent drug offenders being released immediately.

Good idea. And when they need money to buy more drugs, let's hope they visit your home first while you're working.

Being charged with burglary or other theft charges, is not a drug offense. People steal for all sorts of reasons. Drugs is only one of them.

That doesn't discount the fact that drugs cost money and drug users are often disabled from working. They have to get that money somewhere even if all drugs were totally legal.

There is this fallacy somewhere that drug users are otherwise law biding working citizens just looking to get high in the privacy of their home bothering nobody. That's not the real drug world.

I don't want these people out on the streets lurking around my home. I don't want them near my children. I don't want them begging me for money in front of my convenient store. I just don't want them anywhere near me.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

Wow are you a partisan hack. The Koch brothers are behind this initiative and for once I agree with them. Non violent criminals are costing us way too much keeping them in jail for 5 to 10 years. Better to let him serve one year and then find them $20,000 and then put them on probation and monitor them. Better to do that then spend 30000 dollars a year housing and feeding these people and turning them into even more violent criminals than they were before they went in. If you don't know our justice system is f***** up and needs to be fixed even the most evil people on your party understand this well I understand it's costing them money that they don't want to spend which is the only reason they're seen clearly on this issue. There's also a push to take away the question on an application have you ever been convicted of a felony. Why make it harder for somebody who served their time to find a job than it already is you ass hole

Nope...it is cheaper to keep criminals locked up....non violent drug offenders are non violent for the offense they are captured for......no telling what else they have done to maintain their drug habits or sell their drugs.....

They were discussing this issue on Bill O' this evening. Charles Krauthammer was the guest. He worked with many drug addicts.

According to him, many get charges dropped from selling to just using in plea bargains. Therefore a drug pusher could have a record of just using drugs and yes, considered non-violent.

So what happens to these pushers once Obama lets them out? Not many can make a living pushing drugs without the risk of violence.

 

[thanatos144]

With 2.5 million Americans incarcerated, it is time to start releasing alot more than that

We had 500 million in prison 30 years ago, we now have five times that number





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We don't have 500 million people in the country jack ass

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[thanatos144]

Democrats always liked criminals. .. mostly because they are criminals

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[Ray From Cleveland]

Democrats always liked criminals. .. mostly because they are criminals

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It's more than that in this case. Remember that Obama himself was a drug user and seller according to his book and interviews. It seems that he's showing solidarity with people of his own kind.

 

[Flopper]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

I know it's popular to blame Obama with whatever you don't like about the government or most anything else, however the reason for these prisoners being released has very little to do with Obama. The US sentencing commission has established new guideline for sentencing. These changes reduce the terms of many non-violent felons convicted of drug crimes. Releasing the prisoners whose time served meets the new guidelines is not only fair but avoids the inevitable court cases that will arise.

One of the biggest problems in our legal system is we put to many people in jail that shouldn't be there. The results are court orders to release prisoners due to overcrowding regardless of their crimes and a judicial system that's so underwater with cases that many of the more serious offenders walk free.

 

[thanatos144]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

I know it's popular to blame Obama with whatever you don't like about the government or most anything else, however the reason for these prisoners being released has very little to do with Obama. The US sentencing commission has established new guideline for sentencing. These changes reduce the terms of many non-violent felons convicted of drug crimes. Releasing the prisoners whose time served meets the new guidelines is not only fair but avoids the inevitable court cases that will arise.

One of the biggest problems in our legal system is we put to many people in jail that shouldn't be there. The results are court orders to release prisoners due to overcrowding regardless of their crimes, a judicial system that so underwater with cases that many of the more serious offenders walk free.

And once again the loser start covering for the worst president ever

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[sealybobo]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

Wow are you a partisan hack. The Koch brothers are behind this initiative and for once I agree with them. Non violent criminals are costing us way too much keeping them in jail for 5 to 10 years. Better to let him serve one year and then find them $20,000 and then put them on probation and monitor them. Better to do that then spend 30000 dollars a year housing and feeding these people and turning them into even more violent criminals than they were before they went in. If you don't know our justice system is f***** up and needs to be fixed even the most evil people on your party understand this well I understand it's costing them money that they don't want to spend which is the only reason they're seen clearly on this issue. There's also a push to take away the question on an application have you ever been convicted of a felony. Why make it harder for somebody who served their time to find a job than it already is you ass hole

I'm not an employer but I am a landlord. In the beginning, I was all for giving people a second chance such as felons. One time they almost burned my house totally to the ground. Another time they gutted my apartment so badly it cost me thousands to repair and remodel.

Now I have a policy: no felons apply. It's the only reasonable thing to do since they are trouble, and I can't blame employers for doing the same.

Should employers or you be allowed to give lie detectors?

No need to, the information is easy to find. There are hundreds of agencies on the internet that will give you the criminal record of anybody you type in. I now use those agencies along with reverse telephone number lookup to detect liars.

Did you hear about the pot monopoly coming to Ohio? How you gonna vote?

 

[Mudda]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

The prisons are full. There's no place for newcomers. He had no choice.

 

[koshergrl]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

The prisons are full. There's no place for newcomers. He had no choice.

Oh brother. We have a True Believer here. An Obama acolyte

 

[Mudda]

Yes….in order to push more gun control you have to have an increase in the violent crime rate…currently our violent crime rate is going down, not up….mainly due to locking up criminals for a long time, and also because good people can now carry guns…..

That is going to change….obama and congress have decided that they need to increase the crime rate just before the election and to help push gun control…so today is the day they are releasing 6,000 felons back into our cities…..

Thanks obama…..

The prisons are full. There's no place for newcomers. He had no choice.

Oh brother. We have a True Believer here. An Obama acolyte

You're just a racist, we all know that.

 

[sealybobo]

Know when the problems with the prison system started? When they decided to privatize the prisons. When that happened, any program to help them become useful citizens (learning a trade, getting an education, etc.), was axed because it wasn't "profitable".

And............if there are no prisoners, the corporation that owns the prison doesn't make money, so they team up with law enforcement to jail as many as possible, for whatever they can, even if it's someone who is non violent who committed a victimless crime.

People who commit non violent victimless crimes (smoking cannabis, jay walking, etc.) should be let off with no more than a fine.

So who's in prison for jaywalking or just smoking a joint?

God you people just make up ship from the top of your head.

Actually, I got locked up for a month for having a personal use amount (less than 3 oz. is the limit) in my house. The neighbors called because they smelled something coming from my apartment.

Yes. You can be locked up for smoking a joint.

I also remember that I was walking home one day and had a pipe in my pocket that had cannabis residue on it. I got stopped and searched, they found the pipe, and I spent a week in jail for a paraphenelia charge.

Five weeks isn't hard time, and you weren't in prison, loser.

Being that you've never been in jail, you're talking out your ass.
Your extensive experience with long stays in mental health facilities does not compare.

I worked in a jail, lol. I also worked two years in a lock down juvenile facility. Not that that experience is required to be able to distinguish hard time from loser languishing in county because you're an idiot with no money for bail.

May seem easy from the outside looking in.

Ever fuck a prisoner?